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    Who was he second send off for Weston mate

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    Ft 4-0

    Olympic with a couple of late goals

    Referee a farce

    Robbie Turnbull I think was the bloke who got the second red I think

    Apparently Jaffas beat Valo 2-0 earlier

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    Yeah, 2 nil Jaffas with Jaffas having a player sent also

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    Is there more reds this yr than before? Seems like one every 2nd game.

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    What is it with referees??

    I support neither Weston or Olympic

    Tonight just went to Darling St to watch a match as it the only game I can watch this weekend


    Game shaping up nicely as a contest

    Then a red for a body check that isn't even a yellow.
    How the **** you give a second yellow for something that is barely a foul beats me

    By the end of the game spectators were leaving based on the ridiculous refereeing display

    What a waste of my time and money

    At least the chicken burger was good

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    What about the last goal for Olympic by their number 10. Will be good to see the bartv replay. I think he was just inside his own half and lobbed the keeper. Fantastic strike

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    Lambton were very slick in the first half controlling the game, then held Valentine in a slow second half.

    Maj. and remo hooked at halftime, maj showered and left the ground, not a good look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mervan View Post
    Lambton were very slick in the first half controlling the game, then held Valentine in a slow second half.

    Maj. and remo hooked at halftime, maj showered and left the ground, not a good look.
    Is it possible he had something (extremely) important to attend and it was a game where he could afford to leave early?

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    Games still on at lisle carr at the moment

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    Maitland v jets is off

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    Quote Originally Posted by halo se7en View Post
    Is it possible he had something (extremely) important to attend and it was a game where he could afford to leave early?
    He have had to, but he looked none too pleased as did his family.

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    2 nil Azzurri half time, smith & Johnson goals

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    Magic and Edgy played out an ordinary 1- 1 draw

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner View Post
    Magic and Edgy played out an ordinary 1- 1 draw
    as a neutral who travelled a fair way to watch this. It was an even contest. Edgy countered. Both teams had chances. A draw was a fair result IMO.

    Refereeing was horrible for both sides. I'd imagine both teams would have been irritated with the standard of refereeing. Especially when the guy in charge is supposed to be the best in the competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by immersion View Post
    as a neutral who travelled a fair way to watch this. It was an even contest. Edgy countered. Both teams had chances. A draw was a fair result IMO.

    Refereeing was horrible for both sides. I'd imagine both teams would have been irritated with the standard of refereeing. Especially when the guy in charge is supposed to be the best in the competition.
    Can't comment on today's refereeing as I wasn't there but witnessed a terrible display by the official in the Olympic vs Weston match. Ruined the game like he does in most matches

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    I'm struggling with the standard so far, it's only early but gee it has a long way to go, been many a year since its drop this low, every team seems to have 3 or 4 players well below what's expected, but what is expected, does NPL mean to much for Newcastle, since its implementation the only thing I've seen to rise are the player payments, coaching fees and egos but not the standard, I'm a big believer in coaching standards but are the players capable of keeping up, I'm not sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverRed View Post
    I'm struggling with the standard so far, it's only early but gee it has a long way to go, been many a year since its drop this low, every team seems to have 3 or 4 players well below what's expected, but what is expected, does NPL mean to much for Newcastle, since its implementation the only thing I've seen to rise are the player payments, coaching fees and egos but not the standard, I'm a big believer in coaching standards but are the players capable of keeping up, I'm not sure
    The refereeing is disgraceful at best and I'm blown away as to how the refs are being appointed. The standard in the lower grades is diabolical surely (I hope) the assessors picking up on these mistakes and giving feedback and training to improve.
    I've been told there is a huge push to fast track these young refs to get numbers into the ranks but why not put them with an experienced linesman to help them along the way? With the current policy we are getting dished up with refs who to be honest, probably have never played the game and look as though they have very little to no understanding of the game but know the rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverRed View Post
    I'm struggling with the standard so far, it's only early but gee it has a long way to go, been many a year since its drop this low, every team seems to have 3 or 4 players well below what's expected, but what is expected, does NPL mean to much for Newcastle, since its implementation the only thing I've seen to rise are the player payments, coaching fees and egos but not the standard, I'm a big believer in coaching standards but are the players capable of keeping up, I'm not sure
    I believe the playing standard has improved. The game is much faster than it ever has been previously. The technical ability of the player has not improved as much as the physical standard, but the standard has improved in the technical area. That's my opinion.

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    Tbh, do you blame them?
    Like it is seriously one shit job. People whinging about referees? Have you reffed before? Why don't you now? Or why don't you give it a go?
    The problem, for me is the conditions they work in. Go to a game theres a group supporting team A, there's a group supporting team B and maybe some neutrals. Who supports the referee? Every decision he makes is against one group of people. Too many decisions and they get their back up.
    When I first started refereeing, doing Rooball, parents on the sideline would be yelling when you give a free kick because somebody accidentally tripped somebody running goalbound. Didn't bother me, but it bothers some. Those people quit.
    The next year, maybe do 9-12 year olds. The kids you referee start to have a say, the parents on the sideline get louder. After one particular game of under 10H or lower, the coaches both commented that it was a tough game to ref but I did well. Great, thankyou. On the way to the sheds I got bailed up by a parent and told that I was the worst ref he's ever seen, I offered him the whistle to have a go, and he swore at me and said a few more things, while his son was next to him. Again, I found it funny and was more than willing to stand my ground. Others, would quit.
    The next year you may progress up to 13-18 year olds. Kids full of testosterone and who want to fight more than play. You know have kids questioning every decision (like they see on tv, or their parents do) and they swear at you, they fight one another, and the parents on the sideline are worse than ever. At this time you can also be selected to referee elite competitions like macquarie vs nps or HV etc. And now some of the NPL Youth. These games are again even more challenging and the parents think their children are superstars and can do no wrong. Their abuse from the sidelines is also very over the top. Some people would not enjoy this and quit.
    The next year, step up into all age and older NPL, maybe even a 19s game or NEWFM. Now, there is an added element of people trying to trick you, diving, sneaky pushes in the back, pretending to be pushed, hard 50/50 tackles that leave somebody worse for wear and asking for a penalty, balls that are on the line that spectators 50m away are screaming at you was out.
    My point of this timeline is to demonstrate that from Rooball (back in the day) to NPL and a League even. There is a culture that it's ok to lament the referee and give them a piece of your mind. Sport is a very passionate thing. Emotions run high. But some things are completey over the top. Do you walk into Maccas and say the things you say to a referee to the 15yo behind the till, who is obviously trying his best?
    What does yelling achieve? Puts more stress on them, and leads to more bad decisions?
    Throughout the development process, people drop out each year. Why? It is not a good environment.
    Macquarie for instance, used to take on 20-25 people each year. At least 10 would not return.
    In my 3rd or 4th year, there was maybe 3-4 others that I started with. Quick maths, that is 20% retention, and it only continues to drop. This means that instead of having a pool of 60 referees over 3 years from macquarie alone to pick the best for career development, you have a choice of 10. Lack of numbers means lack of choice which inevitably means lower quality.
    If you have trials and 14 kids turn up, that's your team. If 40 kids turn up, chances are you're gonna be able to pick a better team.

    I guess, I'm saying that the problem stems from not enough referees, why aren't there enough? It is not a well paid job for the conditions you work in. Next time you're at a game, have a listen to how many people tell out at the referee. If that were you at your workplace, how'd you feel about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by immersion View Post
    I believe the playing standard has improved. The game is much faster than it ever has been previously. The technical ability of the player has not improved as much as the physical standard, but the standard has improved in the technical area. That's my opinion.
    Sorry but your watching different games then me

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