My biggest concern with the current situation (and it's been explained in previous posts why inexperienced refs are being rushed through) is the lack of football knowledge in their decision making. Yeah everybody can read a rules book and blow a whistle but those refs who understand the game, players, conditions & emotions will always be the best refs.Originally Posted by MFKS
I'm not condoning dissent and totally agree it needs to be scrubbed out of the game but that's not the only issues.
Where in the rulebook does it say you cannot offer an explanation. Sometimes an explanation on what the foul you gave can help educate the player, or at least give an explanation as to why you have a decision based on what you say. There's many different ways to referee a game, there's different personalities.
You say the people that are doing it don't have the heart, don't have the personality or whatever else you said...where are all the people that do? I don't see any of them lining up to give it a crack?
How do you get these people to give it a crack?
For me you're better of trying to keep and develop the people that are willing to give it a go, in the game. Half of the problem isn't even with the players. It's the crowds. It's the opinion that they pay there money so they can verbally abuse whoever they want.
The best referees don't always make the correct decisions but they keep the players safe, they admit their mistakes, they liase well With players. Communication goes both ways. Can you imagine the uproar of a referee said to a player, "you are the worst striker I've ever seen, you are a real c.... Learn to kick a ball properly"....
Your right it doesn't say in the rule book it can't.
It is just a bullshit philosophy that has been put forth
Your philosophy though of explain decisions though actually provides the platform which encourages dissent and arguing.
You are bringing the opportunity to the table to argue disagree and carry on by actually forgetting the one thing that is certain the referees decision is final.
Your philosophy makes a mockery of your authority as a ref and your actually responsible for it.
Why erode your power to control the match efficiently and effectively??
This philosophy causes you problems so why endorse it??
I'd want this bloke to referee all games.
#truthbombreferee
To be fair, some of the o/35s would agree with him.
Middleby Gone
Lawrie Out
Agree to disagree.
I'm actually Curious though, for the third time....
What have you seen that makes you say the refereeing is getting worse? What examples of this do you have?
And how do you suggest it is fixed?
People criticise the lack of experience of refs in these higher levels but as you said a lot of refs drop out when they are doing the younger groups and so we get a smaller pool with the experience. It isn't mainly the players it is the parents abusing a 15 year old because he called a corner when it should've been a free kick in an Under 10's game.
Could this be moved to it's own thread?
Couldn't agree more.
Watch the HAL for the last 10 weeks of the season and see the regular and constant **** ups which are not even close to 50-50 calls. Just shocking call after call by incompetent officials
If you watch the NPL you will see the same old faces making the same old mistakes.
Never actually improving as overall standards slip away
Compared to 5 years ago the standard of officiating is much worse. Just a steady decline as more and more officials show they not up to it.
I will give you an example of incompetent officiating last weekend that has nothing to do with anyone but the referee
A free kick was awarded to Weston in the 22s midway into the Olympic half.
An Olympic player comes back to the point to get goalside of the free kick. On their way they picked the ball up went 15 yards with it intentionally delaying play when he had no right to touch the ball.
Ref observes this and goes over to player. Gives them the naughty boy chat.
Then let's the game go.
Now it was as black and white a nailed on yellow you will ever see.
It not even close to a case of interpretation differing and leniency being showed.
It is just poor officiating from someone who forgot the rules of the game.
Exactly what are they doing officiating at this level if they can't get something that simple correct??
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Azzuri v Lambton this Saturday I think can almost define the season, Azzuri after being still being undefeated after four rounds have had, Mait, Val, Jets and A/Town, no disrespect to these teams but although a great effort not losing to any, still havnt really been tested, if they can knock off Lambton and Weston in the next two weeks, they will need momentum going in to last three games of the round , magic, Olympic and edgy. Lambton have already played these three and got zero points out of them, so this weekend is a very very important game .
Good to see 22s equal top and 19s in third, but again will have to improve from hereon in.
Watching Azurri play the other week I wouldn't be thinking they top 3 side.
Look like they well coached group and would expect them to be fighting for 4th place
Would not be expecting them scrapping at bottom of table like last season
Whilst I agree with your assumption or,if you like, your assessment, your grammar needs serious work not to mention your spelling, must say I'm disappointed.
So let me get this straight toneman
You want a seperate thread for discussion on refereeing
But are quite happy to keep bombing this thread with spelling, grammar & punctuation lessons
Really !!
Careful Professor Toneman gets a little touchy under criticism.
I would suggest for you to just ignore him, his already learnt everyone finds his opinion irrelevant. He'll soon learn that no one finds his English lessons relevant either.
You forgot the full stop after lessons!Chill mate,don't stress, I'm here to help you become more aware of our wonderful language, that's all.
Once more for the dummy, it's he's not his. Cheers.
I couldn't give a flying **** what you think about my grammar and spelling.
Jog on and find someone else to lecture as I just don't care champ
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