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    Its all about the assists

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    and he's sure as shit closer to a striker then a fullback

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    The gap isn't widening at all this season.

    We like to ignore our unknown signing in Brown, but highlight how much both Melbourne clubs have strengthened, despite what they've lost, or because of marquees/visa spots they haven't even signed yet. Most of the players are being recycled around the clubs, so how can the overall gap be widening?

    Mariners - brought in some experienced players, but none of which are anything more than the same a-league plodders we end up with. I do expect them to be better, but I expect us to still finish higher.
    Nix - Barbarouses and Finkler will help, but they've lost Sigmund, Muscat & Riera. May score a few more but let in a few more? They're notoriously inconsistent. These two signings don't automatically elevate them into finals contention.
    Adelaide - just to replace what they've lost will be fantastic work on their part.
    Melbourne City - replacing Mooy will take a lot, and who's to say whether the new player(s) will link up Fornaroli just as well? Who's to say he'll have another great season? They've also lost Wilkinson, Novillo, Zullo... they seem to replace like with like and it's a coin toss as to who will shine and who won't. They certainly aren't any further ahead of us this season then last.
    WSW - brought in Lustica, the Uruguyan, the Japanese due, and Cornflakes. They've lost Castelen, Andreu, Alberto, Bridge, Vidosic. Same as City, are they really any stronger than last season? Possibly, but I don't expect them to make the GF this season.
    Brisbane - they've lost Corona, Donachie and Henrique. Broich is another year older and even last year he looked slow and was unable to put his stamp on games. So far they've signed the world-beater that is Jacob Pepper.
    Sydney - one of the few who genuinely seem stronger... but it's Sydney. They'll collapse when it matters.
    Perth - I think Perth will build on last season and genuinely challenge.

    Plus a big factor that will help us immensely this coming season.... Ben Williams just retired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halo se7en View Post
    The gap isn't widening at all this season.

    We like to ignore our unknown signing in Brown, but highlight how much both Melbourne clubs have strengthened, despite what they've lost, or because of marquees/visa spots they haven't even signed yet. Most of the players are being recycled around the clubs, so how can the overall gap be widening?

    Mariners - brought in some experienced players, but none of which are anything more than the same a-league plodders we end up with. I do expect them to be better, but I expect us to still finish higher.
    Nix - Barbarouses and Finkler will help, but they've lost Sigmund, Muscat & Riera. May score a few more but let in a few more? They're notoriously inconsistent. These two signings don't automatically elevate them into finals contention.
    Adelaide - just to replace what they've lost will be fantastic work on their part.
    Melbourne City - replacing Mooy will take a lot, and who's to say whether the new player(s) will link up Fornaroli just as well? Who's to say he'll have another great season? They've also lost Wilkinson, Novillo, Zullo... they seem to replace like with like and it's a coin toss as to who will shine and who won't. They certainly aren't any further ahead of us this season then last.
    WSW - brought in Lustica, the Uruguyan, the Japanese due, and Cornflakes. They've lost Castelen, Andreu, Alberto, Bridge, Vidosic. Same as City, are they really any stronger than last season? Possibly, but I don't expect them to make the GF this season.
    Brisbane - they've lost Corona, Donachie and Henrique. Broich is another year older and even last year he looked slow and was unable to put his stamp on games. So far they've signed the world-beater that is Jacob Pepper.
    Sydney - one of the few who genuinely seem stronger... but it's Sydney. They'll collapse when it matters.
    Perth - I think Perth will build on last season and genuinely challenge.

    Plus a big factor that will help us immensely this coming season.... Ben Williams just retired.
    Can't possibly agree with that sorry. I always over estimate our chances but there is nothing that tells me we can improve on last year.

    The gap is widening because all of the teams immediately around us, Gypos/Nix/SFC have all improved whilst we arguably gone backwards. I would agree that both Roar, Adelaide and Wanderers are all weakened not to our level. And all have plenty of recruitment to come where we don't.

    Maybe next years recruitment will be better after a full season under new ownership, but I just don't see where we are going to improve. We are relying on a number of unproven players to suddenly become a lot better to that we can be competitive.

    Put it this way, our biggest issue last season was our ability to attack and score goals. Our front 4 as it stands is so far behind all the other teams ion the comp, and this is where signing the Development Chinese player really annoys me. If we had of instead signed Castelen and a Visa striker we are after, then we start to have a starting team that threatens opposition sides.

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    Jamieson is off to Norway.

    Not many LBs around for WSW

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    Quote Originally Posted by borat View Post
    Can't possibly agree with that sorry. I always over estimate our chances but there is nothing that tells me we can improve on last year.

    The gap is widening because all of the teams immediately around us, Gypos/Nix/SFC have all improved whilst we arguably gone backwards. I would agree that both Roar, Adelaide and Wanderers are all weakened not to our level. And all have plenty of recruitment to come where we don't.

    Maybe next years recruitment will be better after a full season under new ownership, but I just don't see where we are going to improve. We are relying on a number of unproven players to suddenly become a lot better to that we can be competitive.

    Put it this way, our biggest issue last season was our ability to attack and score goals. Our front 4 as it stands is so far behind all the other teams ion the comp, and this is where signing the Development Chinese player really annoys me. If we had of instead signed Castelen and a Visa striker we are after, then we start to have a starting team that threatens opposition sides.
    I think you are missing the point of the so called gap.

    If the teams worse than us are improving, the gap below us is narrowing.
    If the teams above us (e.g. Roar, Adelaide, Wanderers) are "all weakened" then surely that means the gap has narrowed as well.

    Basically we should all shop at gap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    I think you are missing the point of the so called gap.

    If the teams worse than us are improving, the gap below us is narrowing.
    If the teams above us (e.g. Roar, Adelaide, Wanderers) are "all weakened" then surely that means the gap has narrowed as well.

    Basically we should all shop at gap.
    Hahaha righto thats a good interpretation

    Sorry maybe I should be clearer. Instead of having a semi competitive squad battling for 7th every year, we are now worse wheres our opposition are significantly better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    Is Labi up to full speed yet? Is he fit for the season?
    Hope so. Love the bloke.
    returned to full contact training this week

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    This wait for some news is getting a little frustrating.

    Still no news on an International striker & Chinese Development.

    Also quiet on the business/organisation front. With the start of financial year i was thinking we may start to hear some announcements regarding sponsorship's, players, trips to china? or any other further club plans

    Any inside rumours or goss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by white city View Post
    This wait for some news is getting a little frustrating.

    Still no news on an International striker & Chinese Development.

    Also quiet on the business/organisation front. With the start of financial year i was thinking we may start to hear some announcements regarding sponsorship's, players, trips to china? or any other further club plans

    Any inside rumours or goss?
    Yes, check out the latest podcast episode on the front page. Lawrie & Scott answer some of those questions.
    Subscribe to The Jetstream Podcast http://www.newcastlefootball.net/podcast

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    Quote Originally Posted by furns View Post
    Yes, check out the latest podcast episode on the front page. Lawrie & Scott answer some of those questions.
    Thanks,

    it was good ep. great for the insight

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by white city View Post
    This wait for some news is getting a little frustrating.

    Still no news on an International striker & Chinese Development.

    Also quiet on the business/organisation front. With the start of financial year i was thinking we may start to hear some announcements regarding sponsorship's, players, trips to china? or any other further club plans

    Any inside rumours or goss?
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BIRYXaUA9K7/

    Varley Group has re-signed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by white city View Post
    This wait for some news is getting a little frustrating.

    Still no news on an International striker & Chinese Development.

    Also quiet on the business/organisation front. With the start of financial year i was thinking we may start to hear some announcements regarding sponsorship's, players, trips to china? or any other further club plans

    Any inside rumours or goss?
    Have to say what are we nearly one month into the Ledman reign

    Would have to be one of the most low key take overs in the history of football

    Usually new owners come in and good signings are made plans are announced for future success etc

    Yet we on the other hand would barely know we have new ownership, don't appear to be interested in signing quality players and just seem to be plodding along like we were in the 3-4 months before the FFA washed their hands of the club.

    Been a rather disappointing period really

    The warm glow and good feeling of new ownership has brought us nothing so far really

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    Unhappy about this. The Jets need to ditch their associations with the military, warplanes, etc to better engage the community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Have to say what are we nearly one month into the Ledman reign

    Would have to be one of the most low key take overs in the history of football

    Usually new owners come in and good signings are made plans are announced for future success etc

    Yet we on the other hand would barely know we have new ownership, don't appear to be interested in signing quality players and just seem to be plodding along like we were in the 3-4 months before the FFA washed their hands of the club.

    Been a rather disappointing period really

    The warm glow and good feeling of new ownership has brought us nothing so far really
    On the contrary, I'm of the opinion an owner coming in with a 3-5 year business plan, not throwing cash around and making promises to all and sundry makes a pleasant change. This is a business deal and it is how you would work in many business takeovers.

    I have felt all along that this would be the season to get things off the field setup properly, consolidate a reasonable team and get some stability after the salvage operation last year.

    I am at peace with the new world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetmaster View Post
    On the contrary, I'm of the opinion an owner coming in with a 3-5 year business plan, not throwing cash around and making promises to all and sundry makes a pleasant change. This is a business deal and it is how you would work in many business takeovers.

    I have felt all along that this would be the season to get things off the field setup properly, consolidate a reasonable team and get some stability after the salvage operation last year.

    I am at peace with the new world.
    i do agree, i was only thinking from an organisation side of things, whether we were going to see any new sponsors in the short term.

    and also when were we looking to sign these last remaining players as the later we keep it the less time there is to settle, especially with both being foreign to the a-league.

    but i do believe we are in good hands moving forward

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    In a month Ledman has;

    * appointed a new CEO
    * led an FFA delegation to China
    * gained international exposure for the club (unlike we have ever received in my opinion)
    * arranged a pre-season tour of China
    * locked in fan forums
    * signed Ivan Vujica

    I don't think that is all too bad.

    If people are looking at why we haven't signed any more players its surely because we have changed direction in who we are signing, and now signing the Chinese development player has put a spanner in the works. This player is likely to be expensive (min wage in CSL is around 500k) and is likely to be impacting how much we have left for a striker.

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    And for pure speculation, the Danish striker that we were recently linked to, Jesper Lange, has in the last few days retweeted the article and posted a goodbye message to his current club Aarhus. I would take it he is on his way to the HAL.

    http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/4019/...-scandinavians

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    Any Chinese trialling at training yet?
    Dare to Zlatan

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    He won't make that mistake at Newcastle since our team is full of number 2's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halo se7en View Post
    Plus a big factor that will help us immensely this coming season.... Ben Williams just retired.
    That is our biggest pick up

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