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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Jet View Post
    Somehow I can't see 16 NPL compliant clubs to form an 'NPL2'.
    there has to be some sort of 2nd tier, otherwise where would those clubs go.. The rules will be modyfied if worst comes to worst

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    Yes if there is an NPL 2, the same Criteria is still in place - 2 B Licences, 1sts/20s/18s etc

    They will be lucky to have 10 teams qualify at this rate.

    There should be a 2nd division of sorts with a view to be compliant by 2020.

    But will FFA let NNSW have it? That's a whole different arguement. There would be a lot money left on the table if 2nd Division were to end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongSufferingFan View Post
    If he did then that should be dealt with by the federation.
    I am not justyfing his every action - I have never spoken to the bloke.

    I am saying that criticising volunteers is poor form.
    He may have done some things poorly or not to everyones liking but the guy has clearly put a lot of blood sweat and tears into the club over the years.
    For the benefit of who? A hundred or so players, coaches, parents and supporters each year most of whom never lift a finger to assist the club.

    NPL clubs are currently screaming about the dwindling volunteer base they have.
    Perhaps if volunteers got a few more thank yous rather than criticism we might have more volunteers.
    Disagree

    Anyone volunteering for anything needs to pull their head out of their arse if they expect thank yous

    If they are doing it for praise then they are going to be sorely disappointed


    I am on a committee myself.
    JI don't do it for praise or from thanks by our members. Nor do I expect a pat on the back or any praise for my efforts.

    I do what I do because someone had to do it and I a see it as my opportunity to contribute.

    95% of the work is done by 6 people. If the other 50 feel the need to praise us or criticise i couldn't give a ****.

    I do what I because helping out running the thing is what I believe in

    I see blokes on the committee who see themselves as above themselves and expecting praise or favour in return for their efforts.
    They have the wrong attitude.

    You do it for the group to benefit not for yourself


    Too many people on committees think they are bigger than the club or an indispensable part of it. They are just a volunteer that is all

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Disagree

    Anyone volunteering for anything needs to pull their head out of their arse if they expect thank yous

    If they are doing it for praise then they are going to be sorely disappointed


    I am on a committee myself.
    JI don't do it for praise or from thanks by our members. Nor do I expect a pat on the back or any praise for my efforts.

    I do what I do because someone had to do it and I a see it as my opportunity to contribute.

    95% of the work is done by 6 people. If the other 50 feel the need to praise us or criticise i couldn't give a ****.

    I do what I because helping out running the thing is what I believe in

    I see blokes on the committee who see themselves as above themselves and expecting praise or favour in return for their efforts.
    They have the wrong attitude.

    You do it for the group to benefit not for yourself


    Too many people on committees think they are bigger than the club or an indispensable part of it. They are just a volunteer that is all
    I am certainly sure that all the guys getting $300 to turn up on Sunday to play in the park appreciate the volunteers.

    Spend it on the community asset, the facility not the players

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Disagree

    Anyone volunteering for anything needs to pull their head out of their arse if they expect thank yous

    If they are doing it for praise then they are going to be sorely disappointed


    I am on a committee myself.
    JI don't do it for praise or from thanks by our members. Nor do I expect a pat on the back or any praise for my efforts.

    I do what I do because someone had to do it and I a see it as my opportunity to contribute.

    95% of the work is done by 6 people. If the other 50 feel the need to praise us or criticise i couldn't give a ****.

    I do what I because helping out running the thing is what I believe in

    I see blokes on the committee who see themselves as above themselves and expecting praise or favour in return for their efforts.
    They have the wrong attitude.

    You do it for the group to benefit not for yourself


    Too many people on committees think they are bigger than the club or an indispensable part of it. They are just a volunteer that is all
    One of your best 🙄

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    I see blokes on the committee who see themselves as above themselves and expecting praise or favour in return for their efforts.
    They have the wrong attitude.
    The ones who like their photos on the wall? I would help but im hosting important people somewhere else.

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    Great decision

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    So 3/5 of these nominated overage players won't get to play each week because you don't have 20 players playing 1st grade every week aka top 20 players coming back in to play in u20s for fitness and taking up those allowed spots?

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    The biggest thing to come out of this is the 180 points. There is no way clubs can go out and sign 4 or 5 new players every year anymore as its impossible to stay under the points cap which is what it was meant to do. Wait for the blow up from certain clubs over this

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    Can someone shed any light on the latest kneejerk reaction by NNSWF?

    So they are going to allow clubs to register 5 overage players outside of the PPS but you can still only have have 5 play in 20s?
    Assuming all your PPS players are over 20 that means you will have 25 players overage registered and just 5 can play 20s leaving 20 players for the first grade fixture.
    If all players are fit that means 6 will not get a game - not even off the bench.

    Who would sign on to this arrangement?
    What is this meant to achieve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongSufferingFan View Post
    Can someone shed any light on the latest kneejerk reaction by NNSWF?

    So they are going to allow clubs to register 5 overage players outside of the PPS but you can still only have have 5 play in 20s?
    Assuming all your PPS players are over 20 that means you will have 25 players overage registered and just 5 can play 20s leaving 20 players for the first grade fixture.
    If all players are fit that means 6 will not get a game - not even off the bench.

    Who would sign on to this arrangement?
    What is this meant to achieve?
    It forces clubs to have young players in their pps. Most clubs will go with around 15 1st grade players in their pps and the other 5 spots will be taken up by 16 or 17 year old kids to keep their points under 180. Then the 5 overage players outside the 20 will make up half of your 20s side. Or so I would assume

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongSufferingFan View Post
    Can someone shed any light on the latest kneejerk reaction by NNSWF?

    So they are going to allow clubs to register 5 overage players outside of the PPS but you can still only have have 5 play in 20s?
    Assuming all your PPS players are over 20 that means you will have 25 players overage registered and just 5 can play 20s leaving 20 players for the first grade fixture.
    If all players are fit that means 6 will not get a game - not even off the bench.

    Who would sign on to this arrangement?
    What is this meant to achieve?
    How exactly is it a knee jerk reaction??

    The clubs were told 3 years ago the FFA guidelines would be coming and they have had 3 years of 22s as a compromise until the day it arrives.

    Well the day is upon us.

    How exactly long do you think they need???

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongSufferingFan View Post
    Can someone shed any light on the latest kneejerk reaction by NNSWF?

    So they are going to allow clubs to register 5 overage players outside of the PPS but you can still only have have 5 play in 20s?
    Assuming all your PPS players are over 20 that means you will have 25 players overage registered and just 5 can play 20s leaving 20 players for the first grade fixture.
    If all players are fit that means 6 will not get a game - not even off the bench.

    Who would sign on to this arrangement?
    What is this meant to achieve?
    I think some of the clubs "meant to achieve" that they could hold spots for prospective volunteers, club people and committee's sons.... and it seems NNSWF obliged.

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    I was really hoping for the open reserve grade to get up. IMO the quality of the comp has deteriorated since it went to under23s/22s/whatever.
    OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    How exactly is it a knee jerk reaction??
    I was referring to the decision by NNSWF to allow 5 overage players outside of the PPS.
    As far as I can tell they just made that up last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner View Post
    It forces clubs to have young players in their pps. Most clubs will go with around 15 1st grade players in their pps and the other 5 spots will be taken up by 16 or 17 year old kids to keep their points under 180. Then the 5 overage players outside the 20 will make up half of your 20s side. Or so I would assume
    my thoughts exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongSufferingFan View Post
    I was referring to the decision by NNSWF to allow 5 overage players outside of the PPS.
    As far as I can tell they just made that up last night.
    its what the clubs asked for in their letter to NNSWF when they called for the meeting last week. NNSWF with an appropriately proportioned compromise, regardless of what the clubs WANT if we want to be part of the NPL FFA line.

    If we want to be part of the big picture we need to roll our sleeves up and work and be dynamic. FFA Cup is best thing to happen in football in this region in many years, clubs should not jeopardize the opportunities if affords our clubs and region as a whole. We would probably have to qualify through old state cup (whos going to run it) then play Sydney teams if we decided not to participate in NPL and forgo our 2 reserved tickets to the round of 32, which would be given to other state federations. Oh but wait, lets have Men of Football run our comp, in which case FFA wont recognize us and we wont be able to participate in any competition, FFA Cup, NPL Final Series, etc. We can have a gala day with St George Football Association and Tim Cahill's Coaching School.


    180 PPS not enough.... changing player penalty should be put back to its original 8 from its watered down 5.

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    I Don't think Men of Football want anything to do with this, as secretary we are only here to help others who need a hand, not for those who can't help themselves, if you get my drift

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    So how come the EPL has an u23s "EPL2" if players are suppose to be good enough by the time they're 20?

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