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    Guys, you're not allowed to talk about goal keeping errors or performance on the great wall tour unless it's in the gk specific thread because borat is tired of a topic of conversation.


    You know you're in shit when people are siding with RAM ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borat View Post
    Furns- apologies for engaging but every thread in this forum is now seemingly infected with this baseless goalkeeper debate. It's everywhere and it pretty much kills any other real discussion.
    Tbf the fact that we don't have a legitimate starting keeper is one of if not our biggest issue heading into this season.
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    I think the point is that there are ten other positions on the field to discuss as well.
    The GK debate is starting to become tiresome with the same old points being brought up time and again in multiple threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by furns View Post
    I think the point is that there are ten other positions on the field to discuss as well.
    The GK debate is starting to become tiresome with the same old points being brought up time and again in multiple threads.
    Most people are far more confident with our options at the other 10 positions.

    Every thread being brought back to the same argument doesn't sound like the entire history of nf.net at all. Cue PeteC's sig.
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    I think most people are rightly concerned that last year we were kinda stinky with a quality goalkeeper.... now we have two back ups its a bit annoying as there's actually been some positive signs in other departments.

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    Who else could we have signed though?
    If we had brought Vukabitch in there would have been another GFC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by furns View Post
    Who else could we have signed though?
    If we had brought Vukabitch in there would have been another GFC.
    Isn't he best friends with Boz or they have coffee together or something?

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    we go to Turkish bath houses together, yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by furns View Post
    Who else could we have signed though?
    If we had brought Vukabitch in there would have been another GFC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boz-monaut View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Guys, you're not allowed to talk about goal keeping errors or performance on the great wall tour unless it's in the gk specific thread because borat is tired of a topic of conversation.


    You know you're in shit when people are siding with RAM ffs.
    Seriously you got to be 12 years old. Get a life champ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    Tbf the fact that we don't have a legitimate starting keeper is one of if not our biggest issue heading into this season.
    It's not the topic I object to, It's the repeated obsessing the same crap over and over regardless of what's actually presented.

    The game v Kitchee 3 goals were scored against us. 2 of which were shown on what looked a handycam in row Z. Unless anyone here jumped on the plane to China was actually present to witness said goals it's fairly difficult to judge the performance of any player. May as well claim Nabbout was man of the match in a Messi like performance, because he he scored one goal and all in the 10 secs of footage shown.

    But all that matters is 1 upping the BK/JD fanboys. It's pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borat View Post
    It's not the topic I object to, It's the repeated obsessing the same crap over and over regardless of what's actually presented.

    The game v Kitchee 3 goals were scored against us. 2 of which were shown on what looked a handycam in row Z. Unless anyone here jumped on the plane to China was actually present to witness said goals it's fairly difficult to judge the performance of any player. May as well claim Nabbout was man of the match in a Messi like performance, because he he scored one goal and all in the 10 secs of footage shown.

    But all that matters is 1 upping the BK/JD fanboys. It's pathetic.
    +1

    And the fact we have a ****ing GK thread for the debate. Take it there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halo se7en View Post
    +1

    And the fact we have a ****ing GK thread for the debate. Take it there.
    They were goals conceded on the ****ing great wall tour! If people want to talk about those goals and the perceived errors made then why shouldn't it be in the thread talking about the games on that tour?

    We've got an Andrew Hoole thread but I don't see anyone demanding people go and talk about his free kicks and penalty in there. We have a kits thread and no one demanded the discussion about us wearing our FFA badged kit or our gradient training kits were moved there. We have a CEO thread and no one demanded that the discussion about Lawrie be moved there.

    And yes borat, calling you out on your little tantrum clearly makes me 12.

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    The GK debate here, or elsewhere is largely fuelled by my shit stirring in regards to how poorly informed criticism against either keeper is pointless AND largely was biased towards hanging shit on BK essentially for errors he made about 8 seasons ago. He was getting to rough end of the stick in that his errors were over scrutinised and birraz's faults were somewhat ignored. There was always an acceptance of blame BK first, then maybe look at the goals..... Hence my OP on this topic when it was actually JD in goals.

    The footage of the entire tour in regards to the goalkeeper is pretty bad, any analysis on the part either keeper played in any goals being conceded in near impossible. That was my point, ill informed criticism is useless.

    Now that it appears most folk understand the futility of blaming keepers when we can't actually see anything, hopefully we can come to the same conclusion that blaming keepers before actually analysing things properly is just as futile.

    I hereby announce I will no longer start any BK or JD bashing in an attempt to demonstrate said point.... But I'll stick up for either one of them if the criticism levelled at them is unfair, or one of them is getting a free ride over the other.
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    I tend to agree with Gav.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazFish35 View Post
    I hereby announce I will no longer start any BK or JD bashing in an attempt to demonstrate said point.... But I'll stick up for either one of them if the criticism levelled at them is unfair, or one of them is getting a free ride over the other.
    But your bias for BK clouds the level of unfairness/free ride/whatever on criticism levelled at him.

    The simple fact of the matter is BK is a bench goalkeeper at best in quality, as seen from years of us all watching him in person. And on the outlook, Duncan is not seemingly any better quality. We've amassed what seems to be our most competent, competitive side for the best part of the last 8 years but the glaringly obvious issue is that we don't have a starting quality keeper. Ignoring the issue won't make it any less obvious. And I for one, and I am sure many others, are using this venting of frustrations as an emotional escape for what was our biggest loss of the offseason in Biraz leaving.

    Like Grim said - Great Wall Tour, talking about things on Le Tour.
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    As long as we score more goals then the other team in every game we play then who cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    But your bias for BK clouds the level of unfairness/free ride/whatever on criticism levelled at him.

    The simple fact of the matter is BK is a bench goalkeeper at best in quality, as seen from years of us all watching him in person. And on the outlook, Duncan is not seemingly any better quality. We've amassed what seems to be our most competent, competitive side for the best part of the last 8 years but the glaringly obvious issue is that we don't have a starting quality keeper. Ignoring the issue won't make it any less obvious. And I for one, and I am sure many others, are using this venting of frustrations as an emotional escape for what was our biggest loss of the offseason in Biraz leaving.

    Like Grim said - Great Wall Tour, talking about things on Le Tour.
    I'm totally with Gaz - BK now is eternally judged based on the BK trainwreck of many moons ago. The BK of the last few years has been mature and solid - his last A-League game was outstanding.

    "BK fanbois" just ask for fairness in judgement.

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