best capo we ever had
best capo we ever had
Can someone kindly inform me if the team still trains on a Tuesday morning?
Van god is shit,
im starting to hate watching the jets becasuse of this joker.
fu$k him off before crowds get to a low point or football will be considerd boring in newcastle
basically the whole time under branko we were even more boring than we are now. the only thing exciting about the branko days was ljubo.Originally Posted by cobra23
i'm actually enjoying being shit, and freely admitting it, again. feels like home. the way it should be.
this weekend, after we concede in the 6th minute, let's get the "we're shit, and we know we are, we're shit, and we know we are" chant going for the rest of the match.
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The only problem I have with the GVE out scenario is that Craig Deans is already favoured as the replacement by the Jets management.
It certainly looked like GVE had Arthur Papas earmarked as his right hand man when he came back - he was given a place on the bench at games even though he was only youth coach. My opinion from the start was that Gary needs a highly skilled assistant to counter-balance his weaknesses and it looked like this combination would work well.
I assume that Papas found that there was no way to dislodge Deans and so moved on.
The comments from Gary and the club about the Sydney coaching role were interesting. The fact that Gary is setting himself up to oversee the emerging Jets program and no longer has the "career manager" mentality that he came to the club with to me means that he's not comfortable with the way the football operations in the club are running.
From the outside, it certainly looks like nobody has each others back. Which is what you would expect looking at how the club is run from Troy Palmer down.
The bloke that should be next in line to VAN shit god is BOBBY NOUMOV, that bloke is a waste of coaching
talent.
He needs some role in the jets
I disagree, Branko's era never reached the lows of the past month.
^ hahahaha.
Also, will someone please explain to me why that guy keeps calling him "Van God". Was there a memo that I missed or something?
you must have been watching a completely different era
do you remember the time with a month or two to go we were 2nd and wound up 6th, then crashed in the semis to Wellington away?
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Agree. The performances lately have been shit, some of GVE's selections have been frustrating as fxxx, but they're nowhere near the same level of the away performances under Branko.
My feeling on the rest of the season:
< 6th place = GVE out
5th or 6th = depends on how well we do in the finals, GVE possibly out
1st to 4th = GVE in, build for next season
Where have I heard that before, let me guess GVE just needs his own players too.
Right, because coming 2nd would be such a travesty, same old Jets etc.
my thoughts in preseason, and still existing, are anything less than top 2 and gve out. the resources he had available, the amount of time he had to build his squad, he had no excuse not to slay the league this year.
however, i can see us winding up keeping him regardless of final position (unless it's bottom two)
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PV4 Out of curiosity what was it about our pre season signings that warranted your thoughts of a top 2 finish for us??
Also considering the standards of most of our pre season football what was it that you saw that convinced you we would be great this year??
My expectations were a little lower Top 6 with maybe a Top 4 effort if we go well
Personally my minimum expectations is top 4 and a semifinal at the least.
However I believe that HSGs expectations are much lower.
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tinkler doesn't suffer fools. tinkler doesn't suffer failure. tinkler doesn't suffer disappointment. blah blah blah.
Tinkler doesn't give two shits about the jets
must be getting gaz confused with rvp
When Branko was dubiously sacked, from media reports, HSG seemed to think that GVE was God's gift to football, and would be popular with the fans. And thus from the list of applicants, no light shone as brightly as the sunshine from Van God's arse.
The appointment of Middleby as CEO was done along similar lines ... would be a good puppet and a popular within his home town.
my expectation for this season was created the moment gve was appointed last season & the first thing he said was "this is not my squad, this whole year is a write-off because i am going to hammer home the style i want to play & i will add/remove the players i have a year to assess to create my squad for next year". given to him were immensely great resources (apparently we had budgeted for 2 marquees), an entire season worth of excuse under his belt (where i don't think results would have cared in the slightest) and total transfer control (buying all kids, even buying ribeiro totally by himself). this season, regardless of who gve brought in, i had no lower expectations than doing what ange did at brisbane. the moment he did a tiatto-move to wehrman, it was quite clear he was just trying to do exactly what ange did to brisbane. gve talked that game, and has no excuse not to get there.
in preseason, however, i thought we were wiping aside state league opposition a lot better than we used to (that weston 7-0 from branko days aside, weston were garbage that night). we seemed to control state league games a lot more, and for once it was obviously clear who the professional side was in the game. we were actually doing good things with the ball - i was impressed with tiago, mitchell, neville, taggz, brillante, birraz, and a few others. it felt like this preseason had a different vibe to it, and i was one of those guys standing with my arms crossed saying "gve is going to fxxx our season up" but couldn't help but walk away from games thinking "wow, maybe gve is going to do it".
i cannot and will not buy into the philosophy that simply by adding heskey into the team, it changed our entire system and gve can't actually implement the system. whether the heskey move was hsg-inspired and gve didn't have a say or not, gve spent the best part of off-season telling everyone that our system needed a target man. which it did. which it received. the sudden revert to heaps of long-balls & well direct play is not an indication of what the team HAS to do when heskey is there, it's what gve chooses to do - stupidly. and the players haven't taken the decision to pump longballs on themselves - they're getting instructed to do it by gve. heskey hasn't always played as the lone target - iirc most of his career was playing alongside another striker, whether he be target or the false 9 (him & bent at villa most recent example).
apart from sydney away, i haven't watched a game this season that i genuinely felt we deserved to walk away with 3 points without caring what the opposition did. and that is a huge, huge failure on gve's behalf imo. he's had a whole year to sort his shit out, and he has nae done that.
to be totally honest, imo the two biggest transfer cockups we've had in recent years were not getting smeltz, and not getting farina (my opinion on farina had and has no sway from his recent decision to sign for sydney and/or his recent form for sydney, it was established well before that). gve is and was the wrong choice.
#gveout
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