GVE Gooooooooone

[westjet]

vidosic into a technical director role - wonder if the jets will follow suit with Gary

[militiamon]

pretty much

this thread can be summed up as follows:

- we're playing like shit (fair enough)
- GVE doesnt change the team = he's playing favourites, persisting with shit players
- GVE does change the team = he's a tinkerman, we need to play consistently with the same team
- poor man manager, arrogant etc from people who've never met the bloke let alone sat in on training and the dressing room

doesn't matter what he does, he'll get shit from supporters either way. can't win.

Good summary, this is exactly how I see it.

[hawk]

Did he not build the team? end of.

[Pico]

Did he not build the team? end of.

Nah the kit man is still Branko's, gary needs his own before we can stand a chance at winning games.

[pv4]

- poor man manager, arrogant etc from people who've never met the bloke let alone sat in on training and the dressing room

what about the people who are saying this who have met him, have sat in on trainings/dressing rooms with him?

my summary of gve is as follows:
- shit man manager
- egomaniac who changes for the sake of change, for the sense of power
- he talks & acts like he's created his dynasty, his legacy, already when in reality he's done sfa
- athletes >>>>>>>>> footballers
- has set up our system completely wrong for the players he's got in his squad, and refuses to recognise that
- looks for excuses left, right & centre in an attempt to avoid any blame for anything
- wouldn't bother with coaching if he didn't get his kicks from the whole media game that he prides himself on
- the year after the grand final win he came out saying "finally, i've got the team set up how i want it" and we finished dead last.
- was the wrong choice from the start

[Muswellbrookian]

my summary of gve is as follows:
- shit man manager
- egomaniac who changes for the sake of change, for the sense of power
- he talks & acts like he's created his dynasty, his legacy, already when in reality he's done sfa
- athletes >>>>>>>>> footballers
- has set up our system completely wrong for the players he's got in his squad, and refuses to recognise that
- looks for excuses left, right & centre in an attempt to avoid any blame for anything
- wouldn't bother with coaching if he didn't get his kicks from the whole media game that he prides himself on
- the year after the grand final win he came out saying "finally, i've got the team set up how i want it" and we finished dead last.
- was the wrong choice from the start

Does it say more about the club (who hire the coaches) or about us fans (who bag the shit of them) that your summary of GVE could also apply pretty accurately to Branko, with the obvious exception of the post-grand final comment and taking into account the fact that Big B probably did favour footballers over athletes?

Hard to judge from the other side of the world, but seems to me like Gary is losing the plot (if he ever had it). Time will tell. I honestly expect us to lose to Sydney at home this weekend, as per usual - it's how we respond and perform and gain points (or fail to) for the rest of the season that really interests me.

[q-money]

gary van egmond in his hotel room

[parksey]

what about the people who are saying this who have met him, have sat in on trainings/dressing rooms with him?

my summary of gve is as follows:
- shit man manager
- egomaniac who changes for the sake of change, for the sense of power
- he talks & acts like he's created his dynasty, his legacy, already when in reality he's done sfa
- athletes >>>>>>>>> footballers
- has set up our system completely wrong for the players he's got in his squad, and refuses to recognise that
- looks for excuses left, right & centre in an attempt to avoid any blame for anything
- wouldn't bother with coaching if he didn't get his kicks from the whole media game that he prides himself on
- the year after the grand final win he came out saying "finally, i've got the team set up how i want it" and we finished dead last.
- was the wrong choice from the start

your favourite player is more of an athlete than a footballer, you should be happy with that facet of gve's management.

[q-money]

lol parksey dropping pv4's baby

[pv4]

your favourite player is more of an athlete than a footballer, you should be happy with that facet of gve's management.

my favourite current players (rubez, tiago, jobe) all actually want to play football, want the ball at all times, do whatever it takes to get the team over the line & win the ball back, and lead by example.

[The Dunster]

then he's got to go.

[sh10]

what about the people who are saying this who have met him, have sat in on trainings/dressing rooms with him?

my summary of gve is as follows:
- shit man manager
- egomaniac who changes for the sake of change, for the sense of power
- he talks & acts like he's created his dynasty, his legacy, already when in reality he's done sfa
- athletes >>>>>>>>> footballers
- has set up our system completely wrong for the players he's got in his squad, and refuses to recognise that
- looks for excuses left, right & centre in an attempt to avoid any blame for anything
- wouldn't bother with coaching if he didn't get his kicks from the whole media game that he prides himself on
- the year after the grand final win he came out saying "finally, i've got the team set up how i want it" and we finished dead last.
- was the wrong choice from the start

have you sat in on training/dressing rooms with him? Or are you going off the prevailing opinion on the foz? Or off a couple of disgruntled players?

Plenty of stone throwing from people who've never done any of the above sorta obscures the opinions of people who are actually close to the club.

I'm not pretending I know what it's like in training or the dressing room but I'm honest about that and don't make assumptions about what it's like in there

[pv4]

have you sat in on training/dressing rooms with him?

yes

[Grimario]

have you sat in on training/dressing rooms with him? Or are you going off the prevailing opinion on the foz? Or off a couple of disgruntled players?

Plenty of stone throwing from people who've never done any of the above sorta obscures the opinions of people who are actually close to the club.

I'm not pretending I know what it's like in training or the dressing room but I'm honest about that and don't make assumptions about what it's like in there

I don't care if pv4 has or has not sat in on training sessions or in the dressing room... I am sick of shit performances, sick of the eternal team changes, sick of the excuses. I don't think I need to have sat in on training to be able to come to that conclusion.

[hawk]

I don't care if pv4 has or has not sat in on training sessions or in the dressing room... I am sick of shit performances, sick of the eternal team changes, sick of the excuses. I don't think I need to have sat in on training to be able to come to that conclusion.

Just need to sit in on match day.

After Xmas we'll right I'm giving this to GVE.

[sh10]

yes

Good - informed opinion is good.

What exactly gives you the impression that he changes 'for the sake of change'? That he's an egomaniac?

[pv4]

he changes so if it comes off he can shower himself with praise for masterminding it. he changes for the sake of letting his players know that it is not their team, it is his team, and he has complete control. he plays the oppositions game, rather than his own, and every decision is determined by what the opposition do. he also genuinely gets off by telling people he'll do one thing, and completely doing the opposite (perfect example in a jets scenario was "taylor regan is definately the first person on the team sheet next week" only to not feature). so yes, egomaniac if i had to sum it all up in one word.

the thing about all these minor little details that gets me though - gve was probably thinking before the last coast game "arnie is on of my best mates (fact) & i've been talking up james virgili for weeks to him now. he's going to suspect i'll play virgili on right wing, just like last time, and he'll be focusing more on containing him & not letting him do a heskey-goal run like last time" where graham arnold's thoughts were probably "fxxx me, i hope pasfield doesn't embarrass us. we'll miss rogic too. i'll put the best possible replacement players for ryan & rogic's respective positions in their place, and we'll see how it goes from there. none of my starting back four are injured - cool. probably need to tell the boys that they should probably expect more high balls than normal & to keep their wits about them around heskey".

[q-money]

pv4 outs himself as graham arnold

[380]

GVE out !.

Why ?. Results man results. Don't care that he has the following issues :

Pubic hair on top
The Tinker man
Perhaps a " I am " attitude.

All means SFA at the end of the day.

Only thing that matters and being a sport are the numbers. His W D L stats are f*&^ing deplorable at best. Take out the season we won and just how bad would those %'s really look.

Did not set the world on fire at the AIS either for that matter.

Like Nick Ward, living off the glory of being a one season wonder. The fact that many of us go along to games expecting to be smacked says enough about how this team is managed.

And those selections for the final game in Sydney last season when only a point needed, what the F^&k were they about ????????????????????.

[Bon]

The fact that many of us go along to games expecting to be smacked says enough about how this team is managed..

I was about to say how much I agree with you about this..
Until I realised that that is how its almost always been as a Jets supporter.. hahaha