Just wondering, how often are teams (or certain clubs) not getting refs. For us, O35E Fri night, we have had them once at home. I get it, only game on and all the way out at Redhead. Is there any merit in a thread that indicates a pool of people that would have interest in a call up or we just place an "add" for a person to officiate? We find someone every week but it's like pulling teeth.
Quite possibly location and time (Friday night I imagine would suck).Originally Posted by Charman
All Age Friday here. We have had referees every game so far (touch wood), but it is all very central - Even 8pm games seem fine.
Looking at the referee roster that comes out everyweek plenty of grounds won't get them every week
What I don't get is that they assign three refs to one ground so that 4-6 games have the centre ref and two linesmen, but then all these other grounds have no refs.
Would be far better to assign a centre ref to as many games as possible and then assign linesmen.
Few factors. No longer involved, but historically the 3 referees that were assigned would either rotate if there were 2-3 games or include a senior referee and two junior referees that wouldn’t be capable of refereeing an all age or o35 game.
Conversely, rostering 1 senior referee to officiate 3 games as the sole referee would be a big undertaking. Usually the better grade is last and they end up with a referee that’s already been moving around for 3 hours to officiate the game alone.
Interesting development with the duty officer section. Does the duty officer have to present to the referee or be sighted during play? As Sammy said, what if they are just watching from somewhere afar and there’s nothing untoward happening?
IMO, duty officer is important when things get out of hand. But if the games are played in good spirits and there’s no need for them, then it should be acceptable. However, the issue comes when a “this will be a chill game” turns bad and there’s no duty officer present to help control the situation.
In the new area I was playing prior to injury, the referee has to get two names prior to the game of duty officers. One from each team. If they don’t get names, the game doesn’t start. So that’s what a Sydney association is doing...
Just needs to be visible.
I understand that and do see it but I also see three men reffing a game at some grounds and no refs at others.
Not something I had thought of but better to have one tired referee than none.Conversely, rostering 1 senior referee to officiate 3 games as the sole referee would be a big undertaking. Usually the better grade is last and they end up with a referee that’s already been moving around for 3 hours to officiate the game alone.
Just sighted, however, I have been told by one club secretary (though she is prone to lying about these sort of things) that referees are not to start a game unless there are duty officers present. I have never seen a game where duty officers are not present and a ref refuse to start.Interesting development with the duty officer section. Does the duty officer have to present to the referee or be sighted during play? As Sammy said, what if they are just watching from somewhere afar and there’s nothing untoward happening?
In the new area I was playing prior to injury, the referee has to get two names prior to the game of duty officers. One from each team. If they don’t get names, the game doesn’t start. So that’s what a Sydney association is doing...
TBF, most of the assistants are younger kids with a senior ref in the middle.
After last nights effort I can see why we struggle to get refs at all. Some of the player behavior is appalling.
Thats the crux of the problem.
I also think that with O35's becoming more and more popular, there are less people jumping over to ref when they stop playing.
Good news is, I have had some very good young refs in charge of my U12 Girls this season, if all these kids stick with it we do have some good referees coming through. Just have to look after them and make sure they aren't turned off it.
Lenny’s hit it on the head. The amount of turn over we get is ridiculous, and most of the time it’s due to the way they’ve been treated by players, team officials, spectators and clubs. I’m not saying all clubs are bad, nor players or team officials. Quite simply, it’s a cancer on our game. Everyone needs to realise that the refs aren’t out there to **** any one over, they’re out there to do their best. If a player misses a pass, or has a bad touch, does everyone abuse them? So why abuse referees? Especially the young kids, that’s just not on.
As for where there’s 3 adult referees appointed to one ground, it doesn’t meant they’re competent enough to do the centre. The two ARs might be beginners, or not quite up to the level to do a centre with adults. Might also be where they can make it after work. And on the odd occasion, you might get all three competent enough, but there might be other factors that you don’t know about.
In terms of the number of games referees cover, a somewhat fit referee will do between 6 and 7km per adult match, and about half that on the line, depending on teams. So as others have said, it’s a long ****ing day for them, especially when you have 5 min turn around. Players are wrecked after 1 game, feel sorry for the ref who’s still got another 2 to go and by the end of the day might’ve covered close to 20km, or more. Same thing in the senior comps, generally the refs are there all day, so by the time first grade has come around, they might’ve already done 10-12km, and then have to deal with first grade. This is simply a result of the number of available referees.
People just need to stop acting like entitled twats who expect perfection from humans. Or, if they still want to expect perfection, northern have a great deal for next season where for $100 you get the beginners course, and all you need to start reffing, including rego, but not boots. If you think it’s easy, go pick up a whistle and try it.
Last edited by Thomas477; 22-06-2019 at 10:58 PM.
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As refs we are all 1 game from giving it away for good. The players will usually decided when
Yes I know which I do see, however, as I said I do see some of the three are all men.
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