i understand the old SAP had tables etc but this will be the first year of 'new' SAP 12's.We were originally told no points/wins/trophies etc til NPL 13's but after reading the posts today who knows.in my humble opinion it will set the program back if we adopt that attitude too early.Originally Posted by Reds Forever
No points U12s as I have heard
Yet ID's will play for points.... seems very odd.
not odd at all in my opinion.SAP is supposed to be completely different to ID's.Its good to have 2 systems,plenty of ID kids will end up in NPL youth.if we had SAP run the same as ID's it would be pointless.reading back over the thread the argument for and against points/tables has merit on both sides.im glad that both options are available for parents and kids but feel my kid is better suited to SAP than IDs at this stage.
I believe it's public knowledge now that the "name" that was mentioned above that will be part of the SAP setup at NLFC is Clayton Zane.
Good on him for getting (formally) involved, I think this is a good thing for SAP at NLFC.
Yep that's the "name" I heard too!!! Great to hear that the rumour mill occasionally gets something right!!
Is it right that Clayton will be the SAP technical director?
It must be very exciting for you coaches to have someone so experienced to lean on.
It is different.
With the comp split into 3 parts and a change of opponents throughout the season pts cant be fairly earned.
I still remember winning an under 9s grand final. Good times.
Absolutely Alan, very excited. It speaks to the extra structure around SAP I mentioned earlier in the thread. We will have regular coach-only sessions and session planning, mentoring etc.Yep that's the "name" I heard too!!! Great to hear that the rumour mill occasionally gets something right!!
Is it right that Clayton will be the SAP technical director?
It must be very exciting for you coaches to have someone so experienced to lean on.
I believe his title is Head of High Performance
Great job title!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I might speak to our TD about changing my job title
Does the role take in NEWFM Youth and WPL teams, or just SAP?
Pretty sure it's just SAP (both genders)Great job title!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I might speak to our TD about changing my job title
Does the role take in NEWFM Youth and WPL teams, or just SAP?
Very interesting. I know he has had involvement with NL in the past with coaching clinics, etc.
It will be also be very interesting, watching whether he maintains his Broadmeadow Magic Football Academy association as well as his inZane football programs.
That's a heavy workload.
Sorry I must have missed something - What's this about splitting the comp into 3 parts?
I could be wrong but I believe they are referring to the 2 "parts" of the proposed season mentioned above + pre-season games?
NLFC are thinking of it like "3 parts" : 10 week preseason + 8-10 wk season part 1 + 8-10 wk season part 2
That's a very different way at looking at it. The pre season timings vary a lot club by club.
Magic, New Lambton & Edgeworth will resume training and potentially have trial games before christmas. This is what they did last year.
Jaffa's will break completely until Week 2 of the school term (usually Early Feb).
With Season start dates usually around the start of March some clubs are doing 4 weeks pre season. Other many more.
I am concerned a little about the reduction in game time from the info you provided above.
2018/2019 - 44 x 40 minute games
2020 - 18 x 60 minute games (COVID reduced from 22)
2021 - 16 (2x8rds) x 60minute games
That in 2 years is almost a 50% reduction in playing time.
That gives the kids less time on the field trying to put their training into practice.
Also, part of justification for the high NNSWF costs for SAP was the amount of field time the kids would be consuming & regular training at the LMRFF.
Considering how many teams do not train at the LMRFF at all and how much less time they will be on the field the NNSWF fee should be commensurately reduced.
It is also significantly reducing the gap between SAP and miniroos/ID's methodology. I can see a lot of parents looking at this in the future and asking why they are paying $1000+ for SAP rather than $200-$250 with community football.
Last edited by Aegon; 23-09-2020 at 12:23 PM.
Completely agree!
If a community team makes the finals, they could end up playing more minutes in a season than a SAP team!
Agree. Since the change its a NNSW farce. There are many community players that would walk into teams in the lower half of the comp so its not that elite.
Combine this with next to not much extra game time. Its a NNSW football rort bordering on theft for rego costs. Note that many ex community coaches are coaching in SAP.
Dont be that jerk. You know that most coaches are straight out of community and arent trained fully up yet so the $1000 rego is a joke. Or cant you comprehend that?
And you still think this is a big advantage over playing in good community comps?
Yes.
Training is the key difference.
At my sons club the coaches are excellent. And the support they receive from the head of football is invaluable. Training at a community club with a parent coach does not compare in the slightest.
Whilst I may have issues with the NNSWF portion of the fees for the value they deliver, I don’t for one second question the value of every cent that Jaffa’s receive from me.
I guess my point is that community coaches can be and SOME are just as good as the SAP coaches up until 12. So the development "can" be as good.
The opposition still needs to be be strong though to push the players. Note that many SAP games are 1 sided blowouts in 9s and 10s that I know of.
And not enough games. Would like to see that change if 4 times the rego is to be achieved
Last edited by Negative Police; 27-09-2020 at 08:36 PM.
I can’t disagree with any of that.
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