Easiest solution, stop pretending clubs in NewFM actually matter and drop the Youth teams from that division. Better yet, fold the entire comp and those clubs join the Zone League system.
Some of the talented kids will go the NPL route strengthening that completion overall, the rest go back into the Inter-district completions back to their local clubs.
This is a worse idea than the youth points system and evident of someone who doesn't understand youth football or with any objective to try and improve the depth of qualityOriginally Posted by The Postman
And leave the current 10 insolvent little operations to represent Northern? They have less relevance than Tassie already. It's benign little minds like yours that created this snooze fest. Unless you provide a viable promotion and relegation process in at least 2 Divisions (probably 3), the mediocre quality will increase. Some (not all), second tier and third tier clubs are run by smart people, unless they are given something to aspire to they won't spend the money or forecast to spend money to get up. On the flipside, we will get clubs who sit on their hands and exist rather than grow. So many good kids exit NPL year on year to play All Age. It is going nowhere.
Oi, Onyatoes. Stop talking sense. Otherwise an NPL or HIT label will get taken off these clubs and they will then have to charge their juniors a reasonable rego and have their teams graded according to their actual skill. Instead of some of these poor lads having to fork $1k++ to go out and get drubbed, with them only learning how to become disillusioned with the game.
If you don't understand that theres limited room in first grade and kids are always going to exit then I think you don't understand much about football. There is never going to be enough room for all of the kids that come through every year, otherwise what? kids play one year in first grade / res / 18's and move on to make room for the next years kids.
No, you have to be equal or better to what's already there, or what's coming through next (or what's coming down from the a-league academies). If you sail through NPL and don't have these discussions with your kids from the get go, you are setting them up to fail. They need to know that they have to be competitive, they have to be aiming to play up a year or two and be able to compete with the older kids from the get go, because once you hit 18's thats what's going to happen, you then have to be able to compete with the players already there.
It is highly competitive, because at some stage you start being paid to play and then its about being the best at the job - not just good. No different to job interviews where theres 100 applications for 1 role. Its bloody hard, but so is getting the job you want these days - verses the job thats available and easy to get into.
So true Kitz so many people on here thinking players at their club are going to make it to the big time when in reality your summation is so correct. Less than 20% across all NPL youth teams at a club will play first grade on a regular basis less than 5% will make higher honours and shock horror less than 1% will play professional football on a regular basis. But keep forking out your $1000+ a year to keep the dream alive or keep the current first grade squad happy.
Again with this shit?
So don't learn to play guitar as you'll never be in a famous band, don't learn to cook because you'll never own a restaurant and don't learn to swim because you'll never win gold at the Olympics?
What crap.
Some kids just love football, some kids love representing their club and communities.
Some parents just want a happy healthy environment for their kids where they learn way more than just kicking a ball and meet people who have some goals in life.
If youre too poor to afford it or your kid didn't make it im sorry. Maybe just leave the ****ing kids alone who just want a bit more out of life.
While we are the subject of made up stats, id argue less than 1% of parents walk around crowing how their kid is gonna play in the Prem. How bout leaving the 99% alone to enjoy their kids having a go at something.
Miserable pricks.
Well Said. 👏👏👏
This is fair comment but it doesn't have to cost over a $1000 to 'have a go at something'. Like it or not football are losing kids to the game purely based on costs, its a sport it shouldn't have to be that expensive that you have to decide whether you can afford it or not for your kids to play at the highest level. Senior amateur player wages are slowly killing the 'elite stream football' and we as a nation will continually get globally worse until something is done. The elite kids in every state federation in Australia maybe top 50 or 100 kids should be the ones that are getting free registration not the 20 to 30 year old NPL 1st graders that just piss all their cash up the wall on a end of season trip. We have it all wrong.
Interesting thought. So if the best seniors in town dont get offered much will they give it away? no chance, theyll find other motivations. However, clubs will always try to outbid each other for these players. $$$ is still king.
I'll jump in here.Your point about regos overall is fair but it doesnt cost $1000 to have a go playing football.You can do it cheaper any manner of ways.Its been discussed before but for 30 odd weeks of 3 sessions (2 x training and 1 x game) it works out to be cheaper than most other sports out there. Add in these kids play and train with higher level facilities and coaches and add in any gear and its not as expensive as it seems.Plus, many parents can easily put a value on their kids dedicating themselves to something and the life lessons that come along with it.My son is in his 4th year of SAP/JDL and needs to decide if he wants to chase an NPL spot next year.If he doesnt then I wont consider one cent or one second of the last 4 years as a waste.You can just enjoy the journey rather than worry about the ending.
And AA has never been so good.
We need a 2 tier youth system and not be scared to have npl1 clubs in the top division. Chances are theyll migrate anyway
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