England on Tuesday
80% Vaccination
26628 cases
185 deaths
Health system about to collapse
This is the model the hag is following
England on Tuesday
80% Vaccination
26628 cases
185 deaths
Health system about to collapse
This is the model the hag is following
Originally Posted by pv4
Youre saying the vaccine is useless?
The vax won't stop you getting covid
The vax won't stop you transmitting covid
The vax won't stop you getting very sick, including long covid which will fuk you up for life
The vax won't stop you dying but it's the best chance of survival we have
Ask a nurse how fukt the hospital system is right now
All you fat blokes, put off your heart attacks till next year
The vax won't stop you getting covid True.
The vax won't stop you transmitting covid True, but it does shorten the period in which you are at your most contagious period, which makes you less likley to transmit it.
The vax won't stop you getting very sick, including long covid which will fuk you up for life The Vaccine makes it much less likely you will have severe symptoms and, from the small amount of studies, will lessen the chance of long term effects people have been reporting.
The vax won't stop you dying but it's the best chance of survival we have True.
Ask a nurse how fukt the hospital system is right now Very True.
All you fat blokes, put off your heart attacks till next year Good advice, probably the best excuse to get into better health is to avoid covid filled hospitals at all cost. Well done on this one.
Actually, coming from a Woke joke this is incredibly accurate.
Yes, ive read the talking points too and can not, and will not disagree with anything here.
Im more interested in what's next. How do we move forward. What are employers and employees rights regarding vax? Blokes on here have had some interesting ponts of view on it, all of which are entirely selfish and a fair few hypocritical.
And that's fine, im one of them and I dont want to get sick either. But its at the point now where leaders (esp elected officials) need to take in ALL factors in reopening society.
Business needs to reopen, kids need to go back to school, sport needs to start again, people need to travel.
Theres been an amazing amount of cowardice from all sides of the political spectrum, would be great to see some rise above it.
Also, am I the only one noticing that people are really really quick to group unvaxxed and covid positive people in the same basket? People need to be careful with that stuff.
Some very lazy, and somewhat inaccurate application of statistics, but that death rate per case is what, 0.7%.
Vs 1500 deaths a day in January 2021 and 56,000 cases a day. 2.7% death rate.
We too, will see another rise in cases over the next maybe 12 months, In my opinion, when we open things up again, there’s bound to be more transmission amongst vaccinated and non vaccinated. The idea of the the vaccination is that it can prevent developing covid, but the main benefit is that if you do develop COVID, the symptoms will not be as life threatening or hospital admission worthy.
Unfortunately, it seems like something we must learn to live with for the next few years, and like other deadly diseases, we will eventually develop methods and some level of immunity from it and “normal” life resumes.
Singapore adopted excellent infection control and public awareness from their SARS outbreak which shaped their healthcare system and the benefits of learning from that experience shaped how they approached this.
Australians seem to have a natural defiance to authority. Restrictions come out, the first thing people do is try to find a loophole or a way to flout the rules or just break them entirely.
There’s still people having birthday parties and events in “lockdown” suburbs of Sydney.
The Australian methods sole aim has been to save lives and try to protect our healthcare system. Which is has done pretty effectively until now. We now see a shift in our approach to vaccinate the population and reduce the effects as much as we can as we return to normal operation.
The alternative approach, no lockdowns, we end up with people dying in the corridors of our hospitals or streets cause the hospitals will be overrun.
Maybe we reach “normal” quicker, but there will be a hell of a lot more deaths. Don’t get me wrong, the communication and implementation of things by the government has been very questionable at times, but I personally can’t fault their logic to this point.
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