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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter403 View Post
    If I recall correctly, grounds in Newcastle Council area are controlled by Council, so it is Council, not clubs that call off games...
    If that were true, then how is it refs are calling off games during the day, or after some matches have already been played?


    In general though...
    It's really frustrating they are all so overly protective of the grounds these days...they are dirt and grass, what's the worse that can happen to them...we're not holding a demolition derby on them for goodness sake

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    Quote Originally Posted by WOW2.0 View Post
    If that were true, then how is it refs are calling off games during the day, or after some matches have already been played
    Council can give the go ahead but the ref will have the final say. Things can change between an early morning call by a council officer and the match start time.

    I agree that we are at times a bit to protective, but I can see the clubs perspective (wanting to maintain the surface) and the ref's (player safety).

    On or off, not everyone will be happy.

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    Relegation can?t come quick enough for lakes

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    Referee?s won?t ever call it off purely based on ground preservation, that?s on the clubs I believe.

    Referee?s only factor in player safety when deciding to abandon or call off a match due the wet weather

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    From recent experiences, referees will only call the game off after it?s started if it?s dangerous to play, we had this with our PYL Girls a couple of weeks ago, game was called at half time. Coaches and / or Club person can query the referees, respectfully of course, but ultimate decision will be made by the referee.

    NNSWF have a policy that they forward to all clubs as a reminder when it looks like we?re getting significant weather. Basically, we the Clubs can call off youth and reserve grade games if we believe it is too wet / dangerous to play. We send photos in, they must have meta data still so you can?t reuse old photos, as supporting evidence. NNSWF reserve the rights to make the decision about First Grade fixtures, and will push to leave the decision as late as possible to give the grounds time to drain.

    Council, as the owners of the grounds, push all the liability back on the clubs, at least this is what is happening in Newcastle. If you play / train and destroy the pitch, it?s your responsibility to remediate?this generally means they come and fix it and you receive a bill for the work.

    Given the pressure on grounds for training and playing, and the distinct lack of alternate options, each Club will make their own decision as to whether games go ahead or not. Lots of factors to consider, how many upcoming home games are there, senior versus youth matches, JDL home games, etc.

    It?s not an easy decision to postpone matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matjpacker View Post
    From recent experiences, referees will only call the game off after it?s started if it?s dangerous to play, we had this with our PYL Girls a couple of weeks ago, game was called at half time. Coaches and / or Club person can query the referees, respectfully of course, but ultimate decision will be made by the referee.

    NNSWF have a policy that they forward to all clubs as a reminder when it looks like we?re getting significant weather. Basically, we the Clubs can call off youth and reserve grade games if we believe it is too wet / dangerous to play. We send photos in, they must have meta data still so you can?t reuse old photos, as supporting evidence. NNSWF reserve the rights to make the decision about First Grade fixtures, and will push to leave the decision as late as possible to give the grounds time to drain.

    Council, as the owners of the grounds, push all the liability back on the clubs, at least this is what is happening in Newcastle. If you play / train and destroy the pitch, it?s your responsibility to remediate?this generally means they come and fix it and you receive a bill for the work.

    Given the pressure on grounds for training and playing, and the distinct lack of alternate options, each Club will make their own decision as to whether games go ahead or not. Lots of factors to consider, how many upcoming home games are there, senior versus youth matches, JDL home games, etc.

    It?s not an easy decision to postpone matches.
    What is going on at Maitland? Have really slipped with 1st grade mid table & ressies last ? Has to be some issues there anyone with valid ideas

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    Valo getting threatened with sanctions from the head honchos.

    Clearly this is because of Captain Carl and his trumpets, and not a moment too soon.

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    Weekend predictions?

    Olympic 1 - 1 Cooks Hill
    Adamstown 1 - 3 Magic
    Lakes 0 - 4 Jaffas
    Valo 2 - 2 Maitland
    Weston 3 - 2 Edgeworth
    New Lambton 0 - 3 Charlestown

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    Olympic 0-1 Cooks Hill
    Adamstown 0-7 Magic
    Lakes 0-8 Jaffas
    Valo 1-2 Maitland
    Weston 2-2 Edgeworth
    New Lambton 0-4 Charlestown

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    Adamstown -omg conceded 15 goals in last 2 games -was some hope with new coach ( Dawkins) but not doing much -he will have to work very hard with a limited squad to avoid relegation ATM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad with football View Post
    Adamstown -omg conceded 15 goals in last 2 games -was some hope with new coach ( Dawkins) but not doing much -he will have to work very hard with a limited squad to avoid relegation ATM
    Why have they got a limited squad, they?ve been shite for a few years and are still shite, why haven?t they improved,

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverRed View Post
    Why have they got a limited squad, they?ve been shite for a few years and are still shite, why haven?t they improved,
    At the end of the day NPL should be 8 teams
    The quality is awful

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    Quote Originally Posted by magician View Post
    At the end of the day NPL should be 8 teams
    The quality is awful
    Agree with this, and promotion is not going to work, it will be a rotation of the same one or two teams every year, Adamstown were no where near the standard required today

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    Quote Originally Posted by magician View Post
    At the end of the day NPL should be 8 teams
    The quality is awful
    i would say 10 teams better in NPL and NL1.

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    Been saying for a long time it should be a 10 team competition. Same few teams up the top end and same few teams at the bottom end year after year. Swapping a team in and out isn't going to solve the divide.

    The only reason why there is 12 teams is make the competition a longer NPL to fit in with others around the country. If they were to reduce the competition they could always bring in a pre season cup with NPL and NL1 clubs.

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    Should be 3 down and 1 up this year. Lakes, New Lambton and Adamstown are woeful.

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    Well Adamstown ‘bit the billet’ and sacked Daniel Dawkins with. moylo in the job temporary
    Limited squad can’t see much changing -talked to several players who indicated Dawkins was out of his depth with no clear plans-was problematic from the start and it is sad to see such a grand old club go backwards but I honestly believe it is needed they not up to standard anywhere and some time in 2nd division help them to regroup and see how they can build

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad with football View Post
    Well Adamstown ?bit the billet? and sacked Daniel Dawkins with. moylo in the job temporary
    Limited squad can?t see much changing -talked to several players who indicated Dawkins was out of his depth with no clear plans-was problematic from the start and it is sad to see such a grand old club go backwards but I honestly believe it is needed they not up to standard anywhere and some time in 2nd division help them to regroup and see how they can build
    personally, lakes, new lambton, cooks hill, weston, valo and olympic have been ordinary as well, however olympic, weston and valo have had bigger budgets to play with.
    the current quality of football is way below par, from 5-10 years ago, this is because we have teams of 15 year olds in ressies.

    if we just remove teams, there is basically a 5 team comp, that can't be sustainable, and will deter players and interest on local football.
    ideally, there needs to be a draft style of rule, to prevent the top 3 or 4, just signing everyone.
    the bottom 5, will never attract players purely of their position, there are players preferring to sit on bench in top 3, or play ressies then, playing 1st grade at the bottom 5 clubs.
    to promote from NL1, besides Belswans, which will also find it difficult, with limited time restraints to establish and develop,also location and money will be a factor. Weston currently has the same problem, great club, but finds it difficult to attract locally.
    to develop game, we need more teams, rather then less, otherwise jets should be dropped as well, they continue to fail and are in bottom 4 each year.

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    You could make the case that their is chaff in every league...could cut the Premier League down to 10 teams, or 5 and it would be stronger.

    Personally, I can't wait to see how the pro-rel works out...I saw quite a few transfers announced this week...adds to the excitement

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    Quote Originally Posted by W8 WATCHER View Post
    personally, lakes, new lambton, cooks hill, weston, valo and olympic have been ordinary as well, however olympic, weston and valo have had bigger budgets to play with.
    the current quality of football is way below par, from 5-10 years ago, this is because we have teams of 15 year olds in ressies.

    if we just remove teams, there is basically a 5 team comp, that can't be sustainable, and will deter players and interest on local football.
    ideally, there needs to be a draft style of rule, to prevent the top 3 or 4, just signing everyone.
    the bottom 5, will never attract players purely of their position, there are players preferring to sit on bench in top 3, or play ressies then, playing 1st grade at the bottom 5 clubs.
    to promote from NL1, besides Belswans, which will also find it difficult, with limited time restraints to establish and develop,also location and money will be a factor. Weston currently has the same problem, great club, but finds it difficult to attract locally.
    to develop game, we need more teams, rather then less, otherwise jets should be dropped as well, they continue to fail and are in bottom 4 each year.
    The very first year of NPL there was a points system included that would have worked perfectly but magic & olympic seen the threat and had it watered down to what it is today, it?s basically pointless, pardon the pun.

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