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    NEFA kids will be leaps and bounds ahead of other kids in the next 12 months, playing nearly 50 games per season against top quality opposition along with quality coaching,

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    Quote Originally Posted by sapdad View Post
    I am 100% with you on this.The JDL handbook says this is supposed to be hammered into the kids for 4 years (9's to 12's).The shame of it is many coaches would rather get straight to the shuttle runs,gym sessions and winning.Drives me mad seeing kids come into 13s still running around away from their weak foot.Its one of the bigger failures in the whole system.
    This is the big issue, so many coaches are focused solely on winning in JDL instead of trying to teach the kids how to play football, as you said there are so many players getting to the youth system who can?t take a touch won?t attempt to use the weaker foot, and think thumping the ball out of defence every chance they get is the right thing. The beauty about JDL is it don?t matter if you concede a goal, allow the kids to try and play out from the back whilst under pressure and teach them it?s ok to take a touch in the back line and control the ball.
    Also one thing for me is mums/dads coaching their own kids teams. Whilst i understand coaching numbers are not high and parents coaching is required, if the teams train and play at this same place why can?t they coach another team other wise little Johnny makes the team each year cause his parents are the coach. But then again even if the parents coach another team they become buddies with their kids coach and not enough people have the balls to pit that aside and pick on merit. Until that is fixed we will always have players moving through every age group the potentially should have been moved on earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter403 View Post
    Group C Grand Final Results
    13 Toronto 3 def NIAS 2
    14 Kahibah 5 def Cessnock 1
    15 Kahibah 3 def Westy 0
    16 Kahibah 3 def NIAS 2
    18 West 1 def Cessnock 0

    Group B grand Final Results
    13 Cooks Hill 3 def Charlestown 2
    14 New Lambton 1 def Cooks Hill 0
    15 New Lambton 2 def Southy 1
    16 Mid Coast 3 def New Lambton 2
    18 South Cardiff def Weston on pens
    Thank you for this, seems Northern forgot to post these results on their socials, remembered for League A though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlooker View Post
    Also one thing for me is mums/dads coaching their own kids teams.
    I dont have an issue with it especially in the 9-10 age group in JDL.Most parent coaches that Ive come across have been former players or long term coaches dropping back to coach their kids for a few years.Most of them Ive met are harder on their own kids anyone else.Once 11-12 comes along and kids are trying to fight for NPL spots then yes the conflict can become an issue and clubs should activley try and avoid it.Im not aware of too many parent coaches in NPL youth and again the ones I know are highly credentialled and more than fair when it comes to their own kids.But yes,in a perfect world removing all conflicts is the best scenario.Congratulations to all the players involved in their grand finals over the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverRed View Post
    NEFA kids will be leaps and bounds ahead of other kids in the next 12 months, playing nearly 50 games per season against top quality opposition along with quality coaching,
    I did hear over the weekend from people that know these things that NPL youth will go to home and away for phase 2 and reverting back to the cup/trial group format of 2 years ago.

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    Has there been confirmation as to whether Cooks Hill or Charlestown Azzuri have been promoted back into division 1?

    Also, does next year have a mid-season phase change with the relegation? My recollection was that the promotion/ relegation in the middle of the season was across 2023 and 2024, there was never really commentary on 2025 (that I've seen).

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    Quote Originally Posted by sapdad View Post
    I did hear over the weekend from people that know these things that NPL youth will go to home and away for phase 2 and reverting back to the cup/trial group format of 2 years ago.
    That is correct heard from people who were at the PYL meeting last week that home and away for phase 2, so a longer season to free up 2 weekends, the mid-season cup will be abolished. The Pre-season cup is back and will be the same format as the Champions League. This means there will be 29 matches for players next year.


    Also common sense has prevailed and 18s will remain in PYL at least for another year, apparently a lot of TDs and youth coaches who have been coaching for many years were in this meeting and overwhelmingly spoke against the proposal to split it from the PYL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoundbyGold View Post
    Has there been confirmation as to whether Cooks Hill or Charlestown Azzuri have been promoted back into division 1?
    It's Cooks Hill

    Also, does next year have a mid-season phase change with the relegation? My recollection was that the promotion/ relegation in the middle of the season was across 2023 and 2024, there was never really commentary on 2025 (that I've seen).
    Yes, not sure where you thought it would only be two seasons, 2023 was different to 2024 because an alignment of teams was needed and so it looked slightly different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    That is correct heard from people who were at the PYL meeting last week that home and away for phase 2, so a longer season to free up 2 weekends, the mid-season cup will be abolished. The Pre-season cup is back and will be the same format as the Champions League. This means there will be 29 matches for players next year.


    Also common sense has prevailed and 18s will remain in PYL at least for another year, apparently a lot of TDs and youth coaches who have been coaching for many years were in this meeting and overwhelmingly spoke against the proposal to split it from the PYL.
    Thanks for the reply.I also saw that Stags won the U13s which is great for their first year back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldy View Post
    Wow. using both feet embarrassing? yeah I see this isnt an intelligent place to discuss this. Gee some egos are bruised. I didnt know this would upset so many.
    So the parents are a big part of the blame as well. Well done.
    I didn't say using both feet was embarrassing, I said your comment was.

    That aside, from Google...
    3 notable players considered to have only 1 good foot...

    C. Ronaldo
    D. Beckham
    L. Messi

    Are you suggesting they are not/were not world class players?

    It is an important skill, sure...is it the defining feature for stardom...clearly not!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WOW2.0 View Post
    That aside, from Google...
    notable players considered to have only 1 good foot...

    L. Messi
    Oh my lord.


    Please delete everything on your computer and reset your modem. It's infected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    Oh my lord.


    Please delete everything on your computer and reset your modem. It's infected.

    You could try making a substantive counter argument

    Also note, I have not claimed anyone here is a Messi, or is ever likely to be (if you thought that, I heard the WEA conducts some adult reading classes that might help you)

    Rather specifically the claim made by Oldy of it's importance

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoundbyGold View Post
    Has there been confirmation as to whether Cooks Hill or Charlestown Azzuri have been promoted back into division 1?

    Also, does next year have a mid-season phase change with the relegation? My recollection was that the promotion/ relegation in the middle of the season was across 2023 and 2024, there was never really commentary on 2025 (that I've seen).
    Assuming you are referring to PYL - MNC, Weston, New Lambton and Cooks Hill back in Div 1 for the start of next year.

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    5 different GF winners in PYL Div 1 yesterday which is somewhat surprising.

    U13 - Lake Macquarie
    U14 - Valentine
    U15 - Jaffas
    U16 - Broadmeadow
    U18 - Olympic

    Congratulations to all teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WOW2.0 View Post
    You could try making a substantive counter argument

    Also note, I have not claimed anyone here is a Messi, or is ever likely to be (if you thought that, I heard the WEA conducts some adult reading classes that might help you)

    Rather specifically the claim made by Oldy of it's importance

    Keep tweeting through it my guy.

    You're doing fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    5 different GF winners in PYL Div 1 yesterday which is somewhat surprising.

    U13 - Lake Macquarie
    U14 - Valentine
    U15 - Jaffas
    U16 - Broadmeadow
    U18 - Olympic

    Congratulations to all teams.
    Sorry I got sidetracked with some absolute foz gold a few posts back but came by to say the same thing.

    Well in to all teams, games I saw were well contested and played in good spirit. Think 13s was the only grade to have a team do the double.

    No one booed the refs which was disappointing but will keep some on here happy.


    Good job Valo, great facility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    No one booed the refs which was disappointing but will keep some on here happy.
    You must've missed the early games, plenty of coaches jumping out of the seats and calling for a foul when the ref made the right decision in not giving one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    You must've missed the early games, plenty of coaches jumping out of the seats and calling for a foul when the ref made the right decision in not giving one.
    There were a couple of the usual suspects on show over the 2 days thats for sure but trust me the referees dont even bat an eyelid at their carry on anymore.One day a few of them may begin to change their own behavior instead of wondering why the officials keep picking on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sapdad View Post
    There were a couple of the usual suspects on show over the 2 days thats for sure but trust me the referees dont even bat an eyelid at their carry on anymore.One day a few of them may begin to change their own behavior instead of wondering why the officials keep picking on them.
    Wouldn't surprise me, I wasn't at the Saturday games but I'm sure the same jumping up and down happened there as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldy View Post
    My first improvement would be to have a European home base where Aussie youth can be objectively selected & try their luck. With some payment they have sponsorship, scholarships, living quarters, top coaching, and are part of a 2nd tier Euro comp or academy. easier for scouts to pick up. Huge undertaking but with the right people doable.
    How do you envision this working given FIFA Article 19 exists?

    This prohibits movements of those under 18s years of age moving to other countries for football reasons (only 3 exceptions are available but can't see how they work with your proposal)

    You also commented that 2nd tier European football is a marker if success, but note that this solution kick off in Europe's 2nd tier...how do you reconcile that...they just jump into "success"?

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