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    I did hear that they are opening up the referee pool for NPL refs over the age of 16 to start doing ZPL matches.Im sure it used to be a separate pool so by combining them it should get more refs at those ages and above more experience.I dont know what the refereeing situation has been like in ZPL but I certainly noticed the interpretations are a lot different to NPL when I watch.It will be good for refs to see another style of game.

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    And now back to the football before we end up 'there' again.On the Adamstown situation,they lost a whole team 2 years ago and had to play one grade short.I know everyone likes to blame the big clubs for poaching their best players but maybe theres more to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sapdad View Post
    And now back to the football before we end up 'there' again.On the Adamstown situation,they lost a whole team 2 years ago and had to play one grade short.I know everyone likes to blame the big clubs for poaching their best players but maybe theres more to it.
    Yes there is a bigger underlying problem and it is that there are too many clubs allowed to have JYL and JDL teams. All NNSW has done is take off the community shirt and give them an NPL shirt and there are not enough kids and also not enough coaches, then jack the prices up from $250 @ community to $1250 to play NPL and pretend the competition is better which was proven by all the lopsided scores on the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retired01 View Post
    Yes there is a bigger underlying problem and it is that there are too many clubs allowed to have JYL and JDL teams. All NNSW has done is take off the community shirt and give them an NPL shirt and there are not enough kids and also not enough coaches, then jack the prices up from $250 @ community to $1250 to play NPL and pretend the competition is better which was proven by all the lopsided scores on the weekend.
    A couple lopsided scores in one weekend proves nothing.

    If you look at the stats from the number of lopsided scores during the NPL and NL1 boys days to PYL boys days has dramatically dropped

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    I do agree with your JDL point though and from 2026 it is going to be worse when they start allowing community clubs to have JDL teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retired01 View Post
    Yes there is a bigger underlying problem and it is that there are too many clubs allowed to have JYL and JDL teams. All NNSW has done is take off the community shirt and give them an NPL shirt and there are not enough kids and also not enough coaches, then jack the prices up from $250 @ community to $1250 to play NPL and pretend the competition is better which was proven by all the lopsided scores on the weekend.
    There are plenty of decent coaches. Its just that many arent willing to put up with dodgy club politics so let it go.
    You should know how it goes in many clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sapdad View Post
    Yes your numbers are pretty spot on.The older the age group you get the money goes up incrementally.You get about half of a centre fee to run lines so if a kid does 1 centre and 2 lines its usually $100-$150 a day.That money is also tax free at all ages (not that any 14 year olds are going over the tax free threashold)but its probably one of the better paying weekend jobs young kids can get.Then you need to factor in ages (they dont want kids reffing teams they play against) so ideally you get a 14 yr old doing 13's,15 doing 14's etc.Problems arise when the lack of 17/18/19 year old refs means that older age groups get either younger refs centering games or no refs at all.Most weekends my sons will get 3 games but there has also been days when late notice cancellations see them get asked to head up to Weston or out to Edgy for one game.A lot of kids wont see the value in it and not bother.
    No kid should be reffing at or above their age for mine. My opinion.

    A 16/17 yo reffing ZL is setting up for failure. Just facts.

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    Curious as to the final cup games. Makes sense now.
    13 14 15 16 18 T
    N Coast 6 6 9 9 9 39
    Edgewor 7 9 9 6 6 37
    Valentine 7 6 6 9 9 37
    Olympic 6 7 9 9 4 35
    Broadm 7 7 7 7 7 35
    Lambton 7 7 7 7 4 32
    Maitland 9 7 4 4 7 31
    Lake Mac 9 9 6 3 3 30
    mid coast 6 6 6 4 0 22
    weston 3 3 3 4 9 22
    southy 4 6 4 4 4 22
    New Lamb 6 6 1 1 6 20
    Belswans 6 4 4 2 4 20
    charlest 3 4 4 4 4 19
    cookers 0 0 6 6 6 18
    cessnock 3 1 4 6 3 17
    Adamst 4 3 1 0 6 14
    Inland 3 3 4 4 0 14
    West Walls 3 3 3 0 3 12
    Toronto 4 4 1 1 1 11
    kahibah 1 1 2 2 2 8
    singo 0 0 1 0 3 4
    wallsend 0 0 0 na 3 3
    thornton 0 1 0 0 0 1

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    Washouts skewed this table. Makes for some interesting fourth round match ups

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    Surprise surprise North Coast have to travel to Newcastle again after finishing first. What happened to this NNSW? Over promise, under deliver as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    Surprise surprise North Coast have to travel to Newcastle again after finishing first. What happened to this NNSW? Over promise, under deliver as usual.

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    To be fair, this weekend isn't a group stage match, it's the final.

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    Dude, really? 2 of the 3 'group' games away, top of the table, and now away again. I get it, many Hunter peeps don't want the regional teams in PYL, but if you are going to take our fees etc., make it fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    Dude, really? 2 of the 3 'group' games away, top of the table, and now away again. I get it, many Hunter peeps don't want the regional teams in PYL, but if you are going to take our fees etc., make it fair.
    Well there are no groups either, I get it though, no reason they couldn't have kept all 3 games in Coffs like they did under the old PYL Pre-Season Cup format.

    But isn't the OzTag State Championships being held in the complex this weekend? Might be why they can't play there this weekend.

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    It is (OzTag), but plenty of quality club pitches are available. A couple of seasons ago North Coast played a pre season cup round at a community pitch. Both the playing clubs were happy with the standard provided, and the community club was happy as they made a few extra bucks from the canteen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    Dude, really? 2 of the 3 'group' games away, top of the table, and now away again. I get it, many Hunter peeps don't want the regional teams in PYL, but if you are going to take our fees etc., make it fair.
    I will give an unpopular opinion, but, they shouldn't take your money, AND they shouldn't expect anyone to go travel 4 hours each way for a game...you, or those in Newcastle

    Fatigue might one day cause a catastrophic outcome due to this unnecessary setup.

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    I certainly dont mind going up there once a season when the draw comes out and have heaps of notice its a great trip away for the players and good bonding.But it was not fair on Edgeworth and Adamstown asking them to organise 100+ people on a couple of days notice and NNSW should have seen something like this coming.I dont envy North Coast and NIAS having to travel down every 2nd week either but there really is no other option if they want to play in this program.I heard the North Coast (the club) were ok with coming down and if thats the case good on them.Maybe next year NNSW should just let the regional teams organise their own pre-season trials to avoid this type of situation.

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    But it was not fair on Edgeworth and Adamstown asking them to organise 100+ people on a couple of days notice and NNSW should have seen something like this coming.
    Interesting comment this one, but it is ok for the NC parents to do the same? There just needs to be some leadership from NNSW here. What about meeting halfway (Taree?) and playing there or something similar? There is just this expectation that NC will suck it up.

    I agree re your point excluding regional teams from the pre-season cup.

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    If nnsw don?t reschedule the washouts how can this even be called a pre season cup. Edgy and Valo got looked after in the draw also with only having to play 1 NPL youth club and 2 low tier. Poor old Olympic,Magic, NL,Jaffa?s having to play 2 top tier and 1 low tier. With the amount of teams in the competition this could have been more even so don?t tell me this is meant to be some pre season ?cup?. So edgy and NC are playing in a final in 13s or 14s (NC) that neither team even made the top 5. Crap format in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    Interesting comment this one, but it is ok for the NC parents to do the same? There just needs to be some leadership from NNSW here. What about meeting halfway (Taree?) and playing there or something similar? There is just this expectation that NC will suck it up.

    I agree re your point excluding regional teams from the pre-season cup.
    I dont think its ok for the NC parents either.But as I said I was told NC (club) were ok to travel this weekend and are way better organised on short notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamtime Yowie View Post
    If nnsw don?t reschedule the washouts how can this even be called a pre season cup. Edgy and Valo got looked after in the draw also with only having to play 1 NPL youth club and 2 low tier. Poor old Olympic,Magic, NL,Jaffa?s having to play 2 top tier and 1 low tier. With the amount of teams in the competition this could have been more even so don?t tell me this is meant to be some pre season ?cup?. So edgy and NC are playing in a final in 13s or 14s (NC) that neither team even made the top 5. Crap format in my opinion.
    Personally I want my boys playing an equal opposition in the trial games.They got nothing out of playing a club that were ranked a fair bit below them.If you gave any serious coaches a chance to play 4 strong trials or 3 easy ones so they qualify to win a tin cup then I think you'll work out where the problems are in youth football in this city.I agree the draw was certainly favourable to some clubs though but there is no perfect solution there.

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