Yeah that would have been much better and i know some clubs had better trials lined up and had to cancel them for this. Keep them in same grade at least. Scores of 15 plus 0 is not helping anyone.Half the trials didn’t even have refs and some dangerous play going on in some games i seen.Originally Posted by sapdad
no one neednt shed too many tears over this practice "comp". I'd rather 3 difficult games and lose all 3-1.
If anything i'd like to see top 2 from each age play.
What?!? North Coast played 2 top tier (Lake Mac and Mid Coast).
NNSW Footballis now controlled by the member federations. Got a complaint: take to your local federation.
"It is not that I am afraid to die; its just that I don't want to be there when it happens" - Woody Allen
Just some perspective from an Edgeworth parent.
We will be travelling to Coffs twice this year already as we?re drawn away in the first half of the comp. So this would mean three trips, and this one would?ve been at very short notice and would?ve probably meant most players either travelled in both directions on game day or wouldn?t have gone.
Agree with your point re leadership from Northern and probably having the contingency of meeting half way organised before it comes to this, or removing regional teams from the preseason cup, which most of us aren?t too worried about anyway.
Just for my clarity do NC have buses subsidised or paid for by Northern to attend away games?
If so then reciprocating this for Newcastle based clubs travelling north, especially at short notice, might also remove some of these barriers
I never said they didn?t I just mentioned edgy and valo didn?t. Wouldn?t call MC top tier, didn?t they get relegated last year. Anyway not the point. I agree top 2 in ages should have played if there is a ?cup? on offer. But hey what do we know.
Call it a cup if you like, but the reality, they are just trial games. No one will care who won it. Just look at it as a game. Player a stronger team and work on defence. Play a weaker team and work on attack.
"It is not that I am afraid to die; its just that I don't want to be there when it happens" - Woody Allen
No, the cost of the bus is covered by the fees charged to parents by NCF. To note however, a bus is NOT provided for pre season cup games or PYL finals.
No, you mentioned 'poor old Olympic, Magic, NL, Jaffas'. Everyone played a DIV A, DIV B and DIV C team. Olympic played Cooks Hill as their Div B team, who also got relegated. Magic played NL (relegated), and Jaffas played Weston (relegated). Stop moving the goalposts to fit your narrative.
I agree though, the pre season cup doesn't really work, especially for regional teams. The top 2 in each age group is a better idea, but highly skewed by the toughness of your draw.
Do you know for certain that the club wasn't informed that this weekend would be in Newcastle?
The draw for the first three rounds came out in December.
Wonder what the clubs would think about this.I agree re your point excluding regional teams from the pre-season cup.
Everyone played a League A, League B, and League C club. I'll assume the draw was done at random. Lakes got the newest club (if picked on purpose why were they missed from your list?)
Wrong again, each club played a team from each of the three tiers.Poor old Olympic,Magic, NL,Jaffa?s having to play 2 top tier and 1 low tier.
Every team had a 1 in 7 chance of getting the bottom team each of the three tiers. Until it was taken out so hardly some uneven thing.With the amount of teams in the competition this could have been more even
So edgy and NC are playing in a final in 13s or 14s (NC) that neither team even made the top 5. Crap format in my opinion.
Club Championship like always
They may have gotten relegated but I wouldn’t call NL a bottom club and didn’t cooks hill just get a Gold license over some of the fancy clubs? They will hold their own along with weston. If it’s club championship then end it now and give it to NC. So how do they decide who wins it this week? Best of the 5 games or do they give every age a trophy in that age?
They are a League B club.
Not sure what JDL 2025 has to do with PYL 2025.and didn’t cooks hill just get a Gold license over some of the fancy clubs?
Did your son's team finish top 2 and your now really upset about a pre-season cup?If it’s club championship then end it now and give it to NC. So how do they decide who wins it this week? Best of the 5 games or do they give every age a trophy in that age?
Thats the winner.
Plenty on here who havent matured yet and winning is still a big deal. More from certain clubs. Newy in general has that problem.
Fair call and works both ways.
I once asked some very good 16s NC players what they intend to do with their skills of academy football, travel and dedication.
Answer - just play for our local towns or clubs. Pretty disappointing for mine but i suppose those who could go higher would have been selected by those in the know.
Quite a few NC kids get 'offers' to play for the senior Newcastle NPL teams, Jets or Sydney NPL teams. Some certainly do take it up, but not many. One of our U16s last year made the U17 Joey's and has moved to the CCM for this season. It is such a commitment to leave family and your hometown and follow a dream, and most parents realise that it is a huge step from being really good in Coffs/PYL to making it even semi professionally. The biggest issue with local community youth football in a town like Coffs if that there is normally only 1 division in each age group, so the abilities are stark. Most of the kids around here that play PYL just enjoy the extra level of competition and playing alongside decent players week in and week out. The synthetic pitches helps too. Even the 5:30am bus trips every second week doesn't seem to dampen their commitment surprisingly. Not many seem to leave the program, especially in the younger age groups.
Yes it does work both way...northern should relieve us all of it
At the end of the day, some kids we all find really talented will have their desire dry up...as I pointed to before, in the Bundesliga, most players that make it never had any specialised coaching until they were 16-17.
Makes you wonder about the poison that is over coaching, really.
There is always the possibility that those "in the know", aren't that much in the know after all too (which can tie into the dried up passion...if some of them genuinely even had it in the first place)
"Over coaching", maybe. Kids will drop out when theyre ready regardless as well.
Ive found clubs will have coaches with the biggest voice or ego first. Doesn equate to best coaches being in house. Again some are v good others v average.
Ive coached played for years. Clubs knock back offeres to coach and then you still see someone doing the same team who has no idea & then the kids are struggling.
I wont help anyone anymore. Many clubs are too inhouse/arrogant.
Over coaching as in "joysticking", not letting them try things, to develop, yelling at kids to do "X", even when that thing "X" is clearly the wrong choice
Relieve? I'm assuming you are referring to cutting NCF, Mid Coast and NIAS from the PYL program? The regional clubs are part of the NNSW community and pay the same registration fees to NNSW as Hunter kids do, so I find it pretty bloody arrogant to get rid of them because you don't want a car trip to Taree or Coffs a couple of times a season.
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