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    Quote Originally Posted by sapdad View Post
    Does anyone know if 18s are staying with youth next year?
    I don't believe so, no one has any valid reason (i.e. how it will make the game in the region or the competition better) as to why they shouldn't be part of youth.

    Will also hamper the ability for Norther to schedule senior games, particularly Friday night football.

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    18s should be with seniors. They should be getting game time at least in reggies.
    13s to 16s is youth age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    They should be getting game time at least in reggies.
    They already do and have during the PYL years.

    Further proves my point, no one has any valid reason as to why they need to play before reserves.

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    Looking through the fixtures, are all games going to be played in time? Can see some teams have games this weekend and two next, with catchup games postponed again this week. Rules go to points per game, will it affect any standing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    Looking through the fixtures, are all games going to be played in time? Can see some teams have games this weekend and two next, with catchup games postponed again this week. Rules go to points per game, will it affect any standing?
    From memory last year, games that were not completed by a certain date were recorded as 0-0 draws. There were quite a few I think. From a relegation perspective ONLY on Div 1, it will have no impact as there is a significant separation between 8th (Edgeworth) and 9th (New Lambton).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    Looking through the fixtures, are all games going to be played in time? Can see some teams have games this weekend and two next, with catchup games postponed again this week. Rules go to points per game, will it affect any standing?
    This is what I see as the biggest disadvantage to the mid season reshuffle, the same thing happened last year with teams having to jam in games mid week on consecutive weeks, not only over working the boys, but also parents and volunteers. Could just be Div1 and Div2 home and away with 2 up and 2 down at the end of the season to start the next season. It would still achieve Northerns desired competitive outcome with way less hassle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Game_over View Post
    This is what I see as the biggest disadvantage to the mid season reshuffle, the same thing happened last year with teams having to jam in games mid week on consecutive weeks, not only over working the boys, but also parents and volunteers. Could just be Div1 and Div2 home and away with 2 up and 2 down at the end of the season to start the next season. It would still achieve Northerns desired competitive outcome with way less hassle.
    I agree to an extent though players aren't getting overworked having to play a game on the weekend and a game midweek.

    In terms of a full year, would be better to go into the 3 groups of 8 from the start with 2 up and 2 down to ensure there is a competitive outcome across the year. Play each other 3 times plus the 4 preseason cup games and you get 24 games in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    From memory last year, games that were not completed by a certain date were recorded as 0-0 draws. There were quite a few I think. From a relegation perspective ONLY on Div 1, it will have no impact as there is a significant separation between 8th (Edgeworth) and 9th (New Lambton).
    Hopefully they use the PPG system as last year it did have some effect on results that were probably not thought about at the time they just declared draws.I think PPG is fairer but of course it isnt perfect.

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    They should declare draws, results are not imperative at this level, play offs should be abandoned, this age group should be development only, not results driven

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverRed View Post
    They should declare draws, results are not imperative at this level, play offs should be abandoned, this age group should be development only, not results driven
    While I understand the sentiment its not how it works.It was decided that results do matter from 13s and up and with promotion/relegation in play the results will determine which level the clubs play at for the rest of the year which in its own way is best for the kids development.With 18s being included in this group it means that results at their age matter as well because they are one step away from seniors and whether we like it or not clubs do start at the top of Div 1 and work their way down when it comes to recruiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverRed View Post
    play offs should be abandoned
    Are you saying dont play finals in youth?

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    [QUOTE=Game_over;280952]This is what I see as the biggest disadvantage to the mid season reshuffle, the same thing happened last year with teams having to jam in games mid week on consecutive weeks, not only over working the boys, but also parents and volunteers. Could just be Div1 and Div2 home and away with 2 up and 2 down at the end of the season to start the next season. It would still achieve Northerns desired competitive outcome with way less hassle.[/QUOTE
    Only 1 club really suffered out of the forced draw last year, that was Olympic (they missed the club championship because of that)...5 draws recorded against NL and finished 2nd by 3 pts (I think it was)

    Div 2 and 3 reset of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by WOW2.0 View Post
    Only 1 club really suffered out of the forced draw last year, that was Olympic (they missed the club championship because of that)...5 draws recorded against NL and finished 2nd by 3 pts (I think it was)
    I understand that both NL and Olympic were told to look to move the games to play midweek before the deluge and both clubs weren't interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sapdad View Post
    Are you saying dont play finals in youth?
    Then ask him if he thinks finals should be abandoned at the 1st grade level across all 5 comps and just go on who finishes first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sapdad View Post
    Are you saying dont play finals in youth?
    Correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverRed View Post
    Correct
    I always find this interesting.Pretty much every sport out there has some sort of winning/finals/competition element to it from the earliest possible age.From martial arts/tennis/golf/basketball/waterpolo you name it they all have a much greater competition element to them than football.Yet our sport is always the one that 'takes itself too seriously'.Being involved in JDL I absolutely agree that the program is better for not having tables and finals*,but the age we set for our sport to introduce the official competitive element is 13s and I think its more than appropriate.





    *just remember if parents/kids want to have scoreboards and finals at those younger ages there is an option for them as well.I like that between community and JDL we cater to both options.

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    Im hearing from a few clubs the season has gone back to only one round of games for stage 2 again like last year due to the weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sapdad View Post
    Im hearing from a few clubs the season has gone back to only one round of games for stage 2 again like last year due to the weather.
    hearing the same. Disappointing
    "It is not that I am afraid to die; its just that I don't want to be there when it happens" - Woody Allen

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    I just wish they put a solid end date on phase 1 and told clubs any games that couldnt be caught up were going to be decided on PPG and got on with it.Only 1 club will be left out due to phase 1 not being decided this way.The extension of phase 1 has made the original plan for phase 2 untenable.One round for phase 2 but 2 legged semis fits the time frame for ground availability.And no,double headers are off the table after last years issues and playing extra mid week games leaves no room for washouts for phase 2.They cant start the season any earlier and are obviously on and end date to hand grounds back.Try again next year I suppose.

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    It's a shame, but the weather has been extraordinary. Two legged SF is decent though - I have always liked the home and away model

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