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    Quote Originally Posted by sapdad View Post
    Do you know which club will be playing out of that new facility?It looks great so far.
    Google tells me Kahibah will be utilising it. Not sure if joint shared with somebody else or not. (As per Kahibah fc website)

    Charlestown have used it on occassion before their upgrade. And Highfields Charlestown azzurri City Blues Wolves FC used it over the years too as a base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sapdad View Post
    I know you are using Wallarah as an example but I think council have made it clear they wont be taking community fields and cutting off access to them.Wallarah/Blackley service cricket as well as the high school.Id say synthetic would only be an option at a club that is fenced off so it was used just for football (like Edden or Magic park). this would then limit alternative uses for it and take away any potential revenue.The only realistic option of Newcastle ever having a Speers Point type facility would be in the redevelopment of the trotting track/showground/council depot areas.And even then football is going to have to have its shit together to have any chance of getting a spot.
    Yehh, just as an example, but I also feel like it is probably one of the prime locations for such a thing in Newcastle council area.
    For me, it ticks a lot of boxes in that it can serve the community (if the right stakeholders are involved), local schools, the football community and other sports. The hockey centre sits dormant for a few months every year with no other available uses.

    Nothing to say they can’t have cricket pitches in between the 3 fields and make it 2 x cricket ovals.

    https://www.penrithcity.nsw.gov.au/f...City%20Council.

    This example is a community minded model - that Nepean Football association tipped in for and have primary use of.
    Area is free to anybody to use. It is fenced to ensure cars and other vehicles cannot access. Priority goes to those with bookings which if outside of Nepean association, are paid.

    In my opinion they would be better off developing the showground, PCYC or existing basketball stadium into the proposed basketball precinct they want at Wallarah. They have already come out and said the area is prone to waterlogging. Think it could benefit everyone.

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    Why do Sydney clubs have so many synthetic grounds, we seemed to have missed out somewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverRed View Post
    Why do Sydney clubs have so many synthetic grounds, we seemed to have missed out somewhere
    Doesn?t help that JDL take up games on the big fields either? No JDL should be played there unless it?s in the small fields until washouts are caught up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undertaker View Post
    Doesn?t help that JDL take up games on the big fields either? No JDL should be played there unless it?s in the small fields until washouts are caught up
    I think this is the biggest issue, regardless of another artificial pitch is who should play there? Who should get to play their games?
    Is it the grassroots kids? The JDL kids? The community kids? All age teams? Zone league teams? NPL teams? Teams who have the most washouts?

    Depending upon who you are involved in, your opinion will change. That will be the tricky part. LMRFF seemingly operating on a “first in best dressed, we will take your money no matter who you are”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCG_1997 View Post
    Great investment. You can get your money back in 1 year. Profit from there onwards
    $1.9M revenue not profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndclasscitizen View Post

    Newcastle council isn't. They are looking at converting one as a test to see how it goes, how to manage the condition and access etc
    Good to see they have changed their mind. Hopefully goes well and means conversion of more pitches, and Lake Mac see it is worthwhile

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    Quote Originally Posted by sapdad View Post
    Do you know which club will be playing out of that new facility?It looks great so far.
    Kahibah will be using it for their NL1 and PYL teams, with Kahibah Oval and Andy Bird to still be used by their community and zone teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sapdad View Post
    I know you are using Wallarah as an example but I think council have made it clear they wont be taking community fields and cutting off access to them.
    Except Wallarah is going to be converted into a basketball stadium, so the soccer, cricket, and the school are all losing access.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    Kahibah will be using it for their NL1 and PYL teams, with Kahibah Oval and Andy Bird to still be used by their community and zone teams.
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    Except Wallarah is going to be converted into a basketball stadium, so the soccer, cricket, and the school are all losing access.
    Its a big IF but yes that is the downside to the new stadium.No one seemed to plan for the backlash from the people that were already using the facility.In basketballs defence it does seem to benefit council/state govt to move them.Its the problem soccer has always had.Theres not often anything in it ($$$$$) for the government to help our sport out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung View Post
    LMRFF seemingly operating on a “first in best dressed, we will take your money no matter who you are”.
    As it should be.Plus moving JDL to the rage cages may be tolerable for 9s and 10s with some modifications but 11s and 12s?Forget it.And parents paying those sort of regos will certainly never listen to anyone tell them their program is any less important than ZPL or NPL youth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    Kahibah will be using it for their NL1 and PYL teams, with Kahibah Oval and Andy Bird to still be used by their community and zone teams.
    Kahibah will be sharing it, council aren?t spending that money on one club

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverRed View Post
    Why do Sydney clubs have so many synthetic grounds, we seemed to have missed out somewhere
    Councils support clubs to get them installed. Talking with a Sydney club they bring in $700K revenue per year on hire.

    Any new facility should be synthetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    Councils support clubs to get them installed. Talking with a Sydney club they bring in $700K revenue per year on hire.

    Any new facility should be synthetic.
    That sort of income would put the non for-profit local clubs into another atmosphere.
    I think anything over 130K of income is where the gst starts to hit clubs, you would basically have to operate as a business, not a local football team.

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    This is great conversation everyone, who knows where it could lead to, we desperately need another synthetic football facility in our town

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverRed View Post
    This is great conversation everyone, who knows where it could lead to, we desperately need another synthetic football facility in our town
    A few weeks of washouts and everyone has mellowed there is a logical and interesting debate with actually facts what?s happened to the forum. I do like this version

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    Link to the progress of a conversion of a grass field to Synthetic plus new lighting and scoreboard in West Pymble (Northern Suburbs Football Association). Looks like they have encountered several issues along the way which has resulted in costing blowouts.
    https://www.krg.nsw.gov.au/Planning-...s-Oval-upgrade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    Councils support clubs to get them installed. Talking with a Sydney club they bring in $700K revenue per year on hire.

    Any new facility should be synthetic.
    They?re also not shared grounds from what I can see, they?re all dedicated football grounds.

    Pretty much all of our grounds in Newcastle are shared with cricket, and that?s a lot more synthetic turf to lay and maintain than a regular pitch. Plus, with that outlay, you?d want to fence grounds off to protect them from the general public, and council is against that.

    No one has mentioned either the flood management aspect that these grounds provide that would be removed by the construction of artificial pitches.
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    apparently newcastle football are in advanced planning of around 2 sites for a facility with artificial surfaces. plans for a 'new home of football for all clubs' in the biggest zone. apparently started in august.

    surprised they haven't mentioned it on their podcast
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