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    Hasn't Okon been thoroughly rubbished as a coach on the internet for yonks?

    My top 3 would be:

    1. Papas
    2. Merrick
    3. Milicic

    But the club's top 3 is probably:

    1. Deans
    2. Deans
    3. Deans
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    Quote Originally Posted by militiamon View Post
    Hasn't Okon been thoroughly rubbished as a coach on the internet for yonks?

    My top 3 would be:

    1. Papas
    2. Merrick
    3. Milicic

    But the club's top 3 is probably:

    1. Deans
    2. Deans
    3. Deans
    Don't have a problem with options 1-3. As for Merrick I am sick to death of the recycling of coaches in the HAL. New blood in Popovic and Aloisi this year have shown they can cut it when given a chance. Why do we need to keep giving blokes go after go after go.

    Culina Kosmina Farina Miron have all had a couple of goes and achieved nothing yet they are still getting gigs

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    Quote Originally Posted by militiamon View Post
    Hasn't Okon been thoroughly rubbished as a coach on the internet for yonks?

    My top 3 would be:

    1. Papas
    2. Merrick
    3. Milicic

    But the club's top 3 is probably:

    1. Deans
    2. Deans
    3. Deans
    Not on my internet !

    Pappas, sure why not.
    Merick. Ugly football with a hit and miss record.
    Milicic so long as we don't have to pay brisbane to take him away again.

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    Sticking to my word:

    Gary Out.



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    Quote Originally Posted by militiamon View Post
    Sticking to my word:

    Gary Out.



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    no maybes haha!!

    welcome to the dark side
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Don't have a problem with options 1-3. As for Merrick I am sick to death of the recycling of coaches in the HAL. New blood in Popovic and Aloisi this year have shown they can cut it when given a chance. Why do we need to keep giving blokes go after go after go.

    Culina Kosmina Farina Miron have all had a couple of goes and achieved nothing yet they are still getting gigs
    Understand what you mean about the recycling of coaches, but how many of the others have won 2 championships and 2 premierships? Merrick is still the most successful coach in the league's history. And Melbourne definitely set the standard for attractive football before Ange came along.


    Edit: But we've had this debate before, so no point getting into it too much. I would prefer Papas to Merrick anyway.
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    Regardless of the extent to which we think GVE is to blame for our lack of success, I think the club just needs a fresh face and an injection of new energy at the helm. GVE will always hold a place in the hearts and minds of Jets supporters (even those calling for his head now I suspect), but regardless of whether we make the finals from this point, I think it is time for him to move on.

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    merrick is the one - will organise this young rabble into a winning machine

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    Not a GVE fan but not sure you can blame tonights loss on him.Perth played a very defensive game and really if we took our chances we would of won.Don't think there was much wrong with our system just lacked the finishing touch.Thought Goody and Rubes were great and we missed Heskey.I might be an old cvnt but I could of played CB for us today...Smeltz by his lonesome watching the passing grid between our defenders
    I hope he likes prison food.......and penis

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    merrick is the one - will organise this young rabble into a winning machine
    surly we can aspire to a manager better than this.

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    Yeah, surely there is a better manager than the guy who has won the most championships and premierships, come on.
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    I am sure there are plenty of guys floating around the scottish third division that could give you merrick style football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by militiamon View Post
    I would prefer Papas to Merrick anyway.
    Interested to know why you rate Papas as an A league coach...not having a shot but have you experienced his coaching 1st hand,watched his sessions or have just been caught up in the hype ? ...wasn't he under GVE at the AIS ?
    I hope he likes prison food.......and penis

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    Quote Originally Posted by seldom View Post
    and really if we took our chances we would of won.
    convincingly, and noone would have had to worry about an inquisition... but it didnt happen thus everyone out threads.

    So at this point, dry martinis in even though they taste like pss.

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    dry martinis > mid strength
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    Quote Originally Posted by seldom View Post
    Not a GVE fan but not sure you can blame tonights loss on him.Perth played a very defensive game and really if we took our chances we would of won.Don't think there was much wrong with our system just lacked the finishing touch.Thought Goody and Rubes were great and we missed Heskey.I might be an old cvnt but I could of played CB for us today...Smeltz by his lonesome watching the passing grid between our defenders
    Agreed. But i still love Chapman. Future Socceroos Captain. 18yo. Not bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howardyou View Post
    Agreed. But i still love Chapman. Future Socceroos Captain. 18yo. Not bad.
    yeah he's composed...also quicker than I 1st thought
    I hope he likes prison food.......and penis

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    Quote Originally Posted by seldom View Post
    Interested to know why you rate Papas as an A league coach...not having a shot but have you experienced his coaching 1st hand,watched his sessions or have just been caught up in the hype ? ...wasn't he under GVE at the AIS ?
    Fair question.

    On the one hand you have people like MFKS saying that we shouldn't be recycling old A-League coaches. On the other hand there's questions like this about the new crop of coaches who are hyped to no end by the media but have little to no actual coaching experience at this level.

    The answer is never clear imo. A lot of the time in football you just have to take a punt. You find this not just with coaches, but also international players and goalkeepers especially. For example, why did so many people rate Birighitti before he came here? He'd played less than 5 professional football games, and how many of those had these people actually seen? In that case the hype has been justified, and that is not particularly unusual.

    When it comes to new coaches, people have pointed out the success of Popovic this season, but you could have asked the same question about him before the season started (and I actually did myself). He had no high-level experience as a manager, the only experience he had was assistant at Sydney and then a 'coach' (not even assistant) at Crystal Palace. After what he has achieved this season, people have hailed him as a genius (personally I will wait and see, clearly he is an effective manager, but WSW are far less emphatic than Brisbane were under Ange).

    So for Popovic the hype was also justified, but what about John Aloisi? He was given similar fanfare at the start of the season by the football 'fraternity', but his performance has been largely underwhelming in comparison. Go on the Melbourne Heart forum and you will find a similar thread to this one demanding that he be sacked as well.

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    Anyway this post is already too long for my liking and I haven't even gotten on to why I would like Papas as a coach, but to summarise:

    In football you have to take chances and make decisions based on hype sometimes. I see Papas as being a manager who could carry on with the work Gary has started here, but do it in a more effective manner. This is based on his results in the VPL, his experience at the AIS, how players mentioned him more than Gary, his recruitment for us in the pre-season, and public comments from him on footballing matters which show him to be a pretty sharp guy.
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    Can't believe GVE fluffed all those chances in front of goal tonight, ffs gaz where are your shooting boots

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    Quote Originally Posted by militiamon View Post
    Sticking to my word:

    Gary Out.



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