ok fair enough...Jets really need to employ a coach who yeah has the tactical knowhow but very importantly has great man management skills...who this is at A league level I don't fvckn know but really the selection should go through a more stringent process and I dont mean Middleby having a chat over a coffeeOriginally Posted by militiamon
I hope he likes prison food.......and penis
Lets just hope Neville and Mitchell have get out clauses in there contracts should GvE not be coaching.
Piss off all three in one hit, how good would that be ?
Bam
collectively this. but not that aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh
Couldn't understand why he didn't have the balls to remove Neville, push brilliante to rb, and bring cooper into the midfield to add something extra going forward in that last 20, we needed to win not draw and in the end we got screwed
Merrick had Archie Thompson in his prime and Kevin Muscat on the field to marshall the troops. When Archie became injured and Muscat started to lose touch Merrick had absolutely no solutions.
While I'd prefer him over GVE I'd rather the club moved forward with someone new to the league - preferably with overseas experience.
It's glaringly obvious now that getting rid of Topor and not re-signing Brockie were arguably the worst decisions in terms of the playing roster in this clubs history. Two players who were already at the club and reaching their prime years as footballers and we release one and don't re-sign the other because they don't fit in the coach's plans and want too much money (Brockie) or are on too much money (Topor). GVE's failings as a coach are never more evident then the way these two were shown the door and are both now thriving at different clubs. Apart from Rubes we lack players who are in the prime of their careers, we have either youngsters with potential or players nearing the end of their career. Topor and Brockie would have provided that balance this season that we have lacked, plus goals (Brockie) and defensive steel (Topor).
Complete Bullshit. We have made far greater **** ups than that. Signing Ante Milicic to a long term deal at his age, Jardel fiasco, Losing the bulk of our championship winning squad within 18 months , our wonderful history of foreigners and NEVER forget our shoddy efforts at resigning Lord Griffo.
We may be missing Topor with some of our defensive issues but we don't miss Brockie anywhere near as much as half the Brockie lovers reckon
So are you saying that we should have payed more than their worth to keep these two players and eat up more of the limited salary cap? Lets remember Brockie's last season, scored 9 goals, then with ~6 games to go says his target is 10. He then disappears off the face of the earth to only reappear when contract negotiations are occurring. If we still had Brockie, Taggart and/or Virigilli would have been lucky to play half the number of games they have and people would be whinging about that.
As for Topor, he was pants last season, but put him in front of a top keeper, next to a bloke who tells hm what to do, with Mooy and Ono infront of him, of course he is going to look good. He was good when we had Ljubo next to him as well.
Middleby Gone
Lawrie Out
From memory, Brockie was doing very well last season, but as pointed out above, he was being benched or omitted, hardly a good move by the manager to 'rest' a consistant goal scorer. I think something must have happened between Brockie and Van God that caused the latter to adopt his usual punishment of dropping/benching personalities he doesn't see eye to eye with.
I think Brockie was one of the first to be let go, and I don't recall any press about him asking too much money at the time. It looks to me as though he had a Whierman done on him.
Not at all. Brockie was offered a massive contract in China, Jets refused to let him go and yet made no reasonable offer to compensate Brockie for the chance they denied him.
As you would expect, Brockie felt cheated and left the club. Simple really.
All public knowledge.
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/43...eremy-brockie/
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/footbal...inese-contract
http://www.bet365.com/news/en/bettin...ia-on-his-mind
Why should we have compensated him? The fact is he signed a contract to work for the business and was legally bound to see it out. So what if he was offered more money at another company? I don't see why the Jets should have compensated him for anything given Brockie freely entered a contract that expired in April (?) 2012, for a set wage.
This is part of the reason I'm pissed that Ryan left, he was legally bound to work for the company and he should have seen out that contract, no matter how much they were offering him. I have no issue with a club paying a transfer fee, but its up the club to accept it and if they don't want to lose a player, its their prerogative to do so.
Middleby Gone
Lawrie Out
Anyways , anymore candidates people would like to mention ?.
Thanks for pointing this out Dunster. I see merit in Thomas477's argument as well though.
I agree with you 100%.
My post was merely passing on how I would have expected Brockie to have felt about the situation.
With respect to the players very few of them have any consideration for their fan base.
That their families cannot survive on $250k a year when the majority of the fans watching them earn less than $50k a year is a bit rich.
so much of this last page is tl;dr but what I will say is so many people on here seem so naive about the transfer market. apart from being jack wilshere, there is literally no such thing as loyalty/honoring contracts/fair play/etc in world football. people liken playing professionally as working for a company? then why wouldn't the player go to a higher pay?
anyone who says we should have kept topor is an idiot. as I predicted, and as it eventuated - he was garbage without ljubo. and he was on $200k+!! and brockie - well I didn't rate him that highly, but the offer the jets gave him, in the context, was disrespectful to him & I'm not surprised he left. but I don't think we're missing him tbh
OK
Agree with both points.
People keep saying how great Topor is at WS, and what a big mistake it was letting him go. What about Beauchamp? You could say he is a good player for WS as well, but he was ****ing rubbish for Sydney and Heart. Do you think they regret letting him go? Different systems. Ours was never going to suit Topor, not in a million years, so why bother keeping him?
As for Brockie, good finisher, that's about it. Not a great all-round player who can really make a difference to a season (e.g Smeltz, Griff). And in the end we got Heskey as a replacement, so what are we complaining about? Even Taggart would have been a pretty good replacement, he is a much more complete player imo.
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To say that Topor was rubbish without Ljubo is one of the biggest myths going around on this forum. Ljubo missed huge chunks of season 6 due to injury and Reegz came in, yet Topor was our best player that season....that's a fact, check the stats boys before youz go off half-cock.
As for Brockie I think that in the last 2 seasons no one has matched the quality of his goals both for us last season and this season for the Nix. He has developed into a striker who can create something from nothing and not just be fed or pick up the scraps.
Militiamon you say that Topor wouldn't suit our system....what exactly is our system? If Topor was in our defence last night, that second goal probably wouldn't have been score. If anyone has watched him this year for WSW he has saved countless goals by just being in the six-yard box and using his long frame to thwart shots at goal.
I make my observations on facts and what I actually see not the pre-conceived dribble that some of you on here seem to go on with.
We've spent $700,000 on a striker and the return has been 9 goals and most probably 7th, 8th or 9th spot yet the "experts" on here think that Topor and Brockie wanted or were on too much coin!!!
No experts on here
That's right, only opinions, but seem people seem to think that their opinion is always right. Give an opinion but back it up with facts, especially the one about Topor being rubbish without Ljubo that seems to be constantly regurgitated.
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