any other results or reviews?
any other results or reviews?
Toronto vs Thornton
19's 1-5
23's 1-0
1st's 2-3
was actually down there viewing today.Didnt see 19s...23s very even trona diggin deep for the win.1sts trona should of been 4 or 5 up in the 1st half but missed chances allowed thornton back in the game and to their credit they took em. couple of stupid send offs ruined the game imo. Think trona will be in the top 4. Dave Bailey didnt play today.....big differenceOriginally Posted by Heskey
I hope he likes prison food.......and penis
I disagree Seldom, I think that Thornton kept possession really well, and for the majority of the game the were on top. Toronto did apply pressure early in the game, but lacked the killer instinct and desire to win.
Score bel swans v Adamstown
not sure what your disagreeing with ? I didnt even mention possession
I hope he likes prison food.......and penis
Just heard today's results:
Cessnock v Singleton
19s 4-0
23s 4-0
1st 5-2
West Wallsend vs Maitland
19s 1-2
23s 0-4
1st 0-3
Without wanting to start a bagging session on the guys in yellow (or pink or whatever they decide to wear) I'm curious to hear other peoples opinion of the refereeing these first few rounds. Esp for the 19's and 23's where we have the "upcoming" ones appearing.
I've now seen 3 full days of New FM and seen a broad selection of referees, and in those lower grades have seen some especially concerning mistakes being made by our officials. My one example I will give was from Rosebuds V Belmont but I could find 3-4 from each game I have seen so far.
2 defenders were running back towards their own corner flag just insode their 18 with the opposition player between but slightly in front. One defender has put both hands in the air and slowed down to be 2 paces behind now, the attacker has taken a poor touch and lost balance and stumbled across the remaining defenders path and the obvious tumble ensued the ball went out and the refree has halted play.
Now this was the interesting part, it was on the linesmans side so all occurred with the referres view only to the rear of the players.
The defender who took a fall has stood up and cleverly jogged away to the opposite side of the defence line while the referee has gone to his linesman. The defence began settling into their normal back 4 positions.
The referee has come away from the linesman and pulled his yellow card and shown it to the nearest defender (he was not involved at all in the incident and had actually been marking a different opposition player all together). Despite the player telling the referee there was no action by the referee to check that with the linesman, so he then booked the second defender who had pulled out of the fall well before the final touch by the attacker or the stumbling. And proceeded to award a penalty for a "push in the back" by of all people the second defender who had his hands in the air.
Now the number of things that went wrong with the decision are numerous, wrong decisions okay we all live with them but an entirely wrong player not invovled in the incident and the wrong player in the incident being the ones booked is a very poor result out of any official team.
And I say team because both linesman and referee were involved in those decisions. I understand we have a young group of officials being pushed thruogh by the Ref Association, they have their own issues with numbers etc. What I now question is, aside from a 5 min chat from an inspector (if one is in attendance) what is done to improve them. Their training is fitness based, I have never seen a camera with an inspector so that any form of video review can be done with the young refs and many are obviously too young to have played at the level they referee so have no experience to draw on?
I want these guys to be better referees, but they need more support than a report and a mark out of 20 to do so.
Last edited by demon; 25-03-2013 at 10:15 AM.
Yes, essential training seems to be lacking for young referees. The 23s game I watched had numerous offside calls made that weren't even close. Poor positioning from a young linesman cost many nice moves to be pulled up.
Better referees see/hear everything, i heard a thornton player got sent off for swearing/dissent against toronto on sunday, yet he wasnt the only one using foul language including one serial offender.
Send one off, send them all off, or none at all.
Anyone witness the above or Nathan Macs goal celebration ?
Can't agree more with this. Start sending players off for language and disrespect of referree's ASAP
Absolutely, a few weeks of games finishing with 10/9/8 etc a side will turn around the attitude of players pretty quickly. Of course you'll have the morons up in arms, complaining that referees are 'ruining the game' by, shock horror, enforcing the laws of the game, but you can't please everyone.
Not a great segue, but a similar sort of thing happened in the shortlived Australian Rugby Championship. Referees cracked down hard on infringements at the ruck, which has really become a mess since professionalism in rugby, and handed out plenty of yellow cards in the opening rounds. The players quickly got the message that if they infringed at the ruck there was a good chance they'd spend 10 minutes in the bin and lo and behold the level of cynical play - clearly against the laws of the game - drastically reduced and led to a more open, contestable situation at the ruck. Basically, the game was better for the referees actually enforcing the laws, rather than worrying about 'ruining the spectacle'.
Yeah I'd just much rather them focus on this stuff rather than bike shorts being the right colour. Anyone else hear bout them cracking down on the colour tape you use on your socks having to be the same colour as your socks? What a waste of time and energy.
Feel sorry for the teams who have multiple coloured socks...what a joke!
Surely not?
Here we go again.2 weeks into the season and players are already blaming the referee for applying the correct criteria and following FIFA,NNSWFA and ID requirements regarding players equipment.Refer to Laws of the game 2013 edition.Law 4 Page 11 regarding players equipment.It sets out quite clearly what the requirements are regarding shorts,stockings,shinguards etc.Nothing new here except for the new ruling regarding tape on socks.The rest has been a requirement for many years and should be well known to players and coaches alike.Why then do players continually try and get round these rules(including jewellery)when they know that they are going to create problems for themselves and the referee.Why are the referees continually made out to be the problem when we are following directions from the ruling bodies.Referees should not have to continually police this-players should take responsibility for their own actions and equipment.
As to the inexperienced referees and assistants-Junior Branch referees are being used on early lines where available for training purposes and to try and increase numbers-however the actions of players and spectators puts a lot of these young referees off and many chose to stay in junior football.Training consists of practical sessions during weekly training,seminars,and referees assessors where available.The comment regarding video use is laughable-there is a cost factor involved(unless clubs like to purchase them)as well as people being available to use them.There is only so much time in a week and some of us do actually have lives and families outside football.We do what we can,when we can but players and clubs would make everyones lives easier by adhering to simple rules,particularly around equipment issues.If you get it right before you play then maybe we can all enjoy our day.Referees are just like players-most of us do what we do for enjoyment.
I understand what you are saying and on most fronts I agree but the NBN and NEWFM ref's are on very good money to do what they enjoy.
Maybe the clubs should be told of the things that are going to be a target and then it's them who are responsible to stamp it out but in saying that, how pathetic are we getting if the colour of the tape on socks is an issue?
The clubs are already aware of the requirements-not targets-they are already written in the Law Chart and have been regulations for several years and most are not new.The Federation has advised clubs about the FIFA requirement regarding the tape on socks which is not a requirement of the referees but something that we are required to enforce by Law.Instead of making this a big issue why dont you and the other players adhere to the requirements.How hard is it to get the same colour tape as your socks.It is the players responsibility to comply and should be done as a matter of course.Refereeing is hard enough without having to treat players like children just because they dont want to comply with the rules.
So what do you do when your socks are two different colours, if you can tell me where I buy tape like that I would really appreciate it
I must have missed that passage in the Universal Declaration of Human rights that said players must be allowed to wear tape on their socks and should be able to choose whatever colour they want!
If the laws of the game say that tape must match the color of the socks buy the right colour tape or don't use anything. It ain't rocket surgery
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