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    Quote Originally Posted by stopper2 View Post
    It's not as simple as stating..."the Jets clearly have kids who are not up to it playing at the moment". A few of these "kids" were playing for NSWIS last season and should have been blooded into the Youth team during the NYL season. Instead we saw players like Jesic, Ribeiro, Pepper and Regan regularly playing NYL and then at the end of the season we give ourselves a pat on the back and say it was our most successful NYL season because we finished 3rd!
    I have no doubts these "kids" will come good, it may take half a season or so but they will get there. They just would have been better prepared if they had a lot more games under their belts playing in the NYL.
    Fair point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas477 View Post
    The Jets priorities are different. I can't imagine they give a crap about the league result, it's more developing the youth to play for the seniors, and if that means Hoole, Pepper etc don't play for a bit, then so be it. And NNSWF can't punt them, because the FFA would come down on them as its part of their vision for the future of the Y-League teams.
    So a club that works hard either misses out on winning the premiership, the semi finals or even worse gets relegated by a point just because the Jets have different priorities and don't give a shit about the local comp or clubs? I know it's an old argument but **** me, this is a comp with very passionate supporters and officials that are involved with clubs that some are over 100 years old yet they are being treated like a group of hobo's that are solely there to use as trial games for the bigger club in the bigger League? I'm not saying this is the case but from your comments I feel you are.

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    THB i think you are all over reacting. Look at the EPL teams like Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City they rest players all the time, and its not overly uncommon to see 5-6 changes some weeks. But you don't see teams complaining that they played a full strength team when last week a fellow team also battling relegation played a much weaker team (and the difference between relegation in the EPL is about $50-80 mil). Its part of football, people only get the shits because they don't have the luxury of doing the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabe View Post
    You must have been watching a different game to me. I thought the first half was played at a high intensity and was great to watch. Thought it was a tough send off on young finlayson yellow at best. Dont see how you come up with jets easily on top at this stage? Apart from Olympic gifting the jets a goal after 30 seconds I can only remember swancott making that great save just before halftimeandnothaving a great deal more to do whereas the young jets keeper made some good saves and Olympic could easily have scored one or two more in first half. Olympic lead 2.1 but jets EASILY on top? Second half deteriated but Olympic should have scored another 5 against the 10 man
    was still a crappy game though

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    Zico is not possible that the Jets are unable to play their better players such as Hoole Pepper Oxborrow etc as they are on HAL contracts and have stock standard clauses in them from the PFA that give the player x amount of weeks break from football training/games each year??

    The same condition in the contract that sees Zadko fishing in the NT Heskey back in the UK Birra sun himself on some beach and Bridges playing golf.

    In another month or two they will reform at Ray Watt Oval each day for pre season training hopefully under the tutelage of some bloke other than the Egg
    Maybe the likes of Hoole Pepper Oxborrow etc are actually living it up enjoying their youth and holidays like they should be doing

    Maybe the Jets don't have any choice at this point in time and have to play the younger players in the squad.

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    Maybe it should be remembered that they exist in this comp for development purposes. Keep an eye on the big picture etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Fish View Post
    Maybe it should be remembered that they exist in this comp for development purposes. Keep an eye on the big picture etc etc
    That's bullshit, clubs are are spending thousands just to exist and these muppets seem to do as they please, move em on I say, feed the players out to the clubs and let them toughen em up, NBN doesn't need the jets,

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverRed View Post
    was still a crappy game though
    Of cause it was, southy wasn't playing

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverRed View Post
    NBN doesn't need the jets,
    And there is the paradigm that needs shifting.
    The FFA technical review conducted a few years ago wanted youth players playing more football at the highest level.
    The jets being in the nbn isn't about hats good for the nbn, it's about what's good for the jets..... And it's actually not even about what's good for the jets, its actually about hats good for Australia's football development.

    No doubt the nbn league is strong enough without the jets, no argument at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverRed View Post
    That's bullshit, clubs are are spending thousands just to exist and these muppets seem to do as they please, move em on I say, feed the players out to the clubs and let them toughen em up, NBN doesn't need the jets,
    Yet having the Jets there sees the local clubs get an extra home game a season and a possible large turnout as many Jets fans trundle down to some suburban oval to watch the Jets Yoof play and throw a few dollars into the NBN clubs coffers.

    I suppose those dollars I chipped into Southy and their cause the other week you can do with out??



    Just keep moaning.

    The Jets team wins games and you moan that it is unfair that they hve better calibre of players. They lose and you still moan that they ain't playing their best team.

    You will only be happy when they play their best players and get beaten
    FFS Make your minds up

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    Having jets youth play in NBN as I see it can only strengthen the other clubs down the track, if they don't make senior team they will come back to play in another club at some stage and have hopefully benefited from the youth training and can pass this on to their new team mates

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    [QUOTE=magician;35618]Of cause it was, southy wasn't playing[/QU
    say it as i see it, no need to get personal

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Yet having the Jets there sees the local clubs get an extra home game a season and a possible large turnout as many Jets fans trundle down to some suburban oval to watch the Jets Yoof play and throw a few dollars into the NBN clubs coffers.

    I suppose those dollars I chipped into Southy and their cause the other week you can do with out??



    Just keep moaning.

    The Jets team wins games and you moan that it is unfair that they hve better calibre of players. They lose and you still moan that they ain't playing their best team.

    You will only be happy when they play their best players and get beaten
    FFS Make your minds up
    so in 6 weeks time when they have their strongest line up its all fair, ask the club that has to play them that day, then the following week egghead decides to take 4 or 5 players to a trial yet they field under 16s in nbn, somehow its not fair, also i dont see having an extra home game has anything to do with fairness, besides, a few mums and dads dad make you richer

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Yet having the Jets there sees the local clubs get an extra home game a season and a possible large turnout as many Jets fans trundle down to some suburban oval to watch the Jets Yoof play and throw a few dollars into the NBN clubs coffers.

    I suppose those dollars I chipped into Southy and their cause the other week you can do with out??




    Just keep moaning.

    The Jets team wins games and you moan that it is unfair that they hve better calibre of players. They lose and you still moan that they ain't playing their best team.

    You will only be happy when they play their best players and get beaten
    FFS Make your minds up
    People like you piss me off so much that it's not funny. Why do you think the NBN should be solely a development ground for the Jets youth games? Go and spend some time at a club in the NBN and see what goes into running the club and making it competitive in this league. Maybe then your ****ed up views will be less clouded and more realistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zico View Post
    People like you piss me off so much that it's not funny. Why do you think the NBN should be solely a development ground for the Jets youth games? Go and spend some time at a club in the NBN and see what goes into running the club and making it competitive in this league. Maybe then your ****ed up views will be less clouded and more realistic.
    Nice

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    Perks of the draw mate. Leagues around the world always see a team get a good leg up with their opponents ranks decimated short term due to injury/suspensions etc

    Victree got a good leg up after the Jets played Nix away midweek and lost a few troops and had to basically wave the white flag at it. Was there any bitching that this was unfair that other clubs didn't get to play the Jets at such a vulnerable time?? NO

    So what if they play their younger players thats there perogative to select whoever they like. Southys coach is quite within his rights to purge off all your long ball larry blokes and pick a pile of kids if he feels that is the way he wishes to go.

    On another note Forever Red your bluster and carry on in this subject is for a team currently at the bottom end of the table after 3 rounds. What makes you think that they are certainties to start stringing a pile of wins together and all of a sudden dominate the league???

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    Maybe the other clubs should just win all their other games.
    Then the results against the Jets wouldn't really matter would they?
    Pretty obvious really.
    Or is it just me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zico View Post
    People like you piss me off so much that it's not funny. Why do you think the NBN should be solely a development ground for the Jets youth games? Go and spend some time at a club in the NBN and see what goes into running the club and making it competitive in this league. Maybe then your ****ed up views will be less clouded and more realistic.
    Since where is it that I said the NBN League is solely a development ground for the Jets Youths Games??

    The Jets Youth teams are basically there to develop the elite players for the Jets to go on and play NYL HAL Socceroos and hopefully one day to big Euro Clubs so we can watch some Newy lads playing in big EPL UCL LaLiga games etc Results for them are really irrelevant. Winning a trophy looks all good and well on the CV for the coach but having Zane be able to say one day that 12 of the Jets HAL squad 3 Socceroos and a bloke running around for Bayern Munich came through the ranks on his watch is his goal. That is the purpose for the Jets Yoof team to be in the NBN League

    What of other clubs and their purpose in the NBN??

    Magic Olympic Edgey are probably there to win it. Southy Cardiff Weston to hopefully have a good year and go deep in the play offs

    Jaffas to establish themselves in the League

    Weston Phoenix Lakes are hoping to avoid the trap door of coming last and move up a few rungs on the ladder.

    They all have different goals.

    Why is it that important to you that the Jets win games???

    If any clubs season is resting on the Jets fielding a weaker side then you are obviously got bigger issues. You have 18 games with 2 of those against the Jets to decide the course of your season. If you ****ers are left bitching coz so and so got a cheap 3 points against the Jets coz the Jets were missing 6 players and that cost you a semi spot may I then suggest that the other 16 games of your season where you dropped points were the ones that ACTUALLY cost you a semi spot and you DO NOT DESERVE TO BE THERE ANYWAY.


    Why should I care about what efforts are made at clubs to make them successful?? All clubs work hard to achieve some success just because your club puts in effort doesn't mean it is entitled to success. All I see is that you guys have a rival you despise because they have a few things going for them.

    How about you guys knuckling down and trying to beat them fair and square and prove you are better than them. Magic didn't roll over for the Jets last season and took it to them and come out on top 3 out of 3 times by backing themselves and belieiving in what they do. Why is that so hard for you weaker clubs to do??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zico View Post
    People like you piss me off so much that it's not funny. Why do you think the NBN should be solely a development ground for the Jets youth games? Go and spend some time at a club in the NBN and see what goes into running the club and making it competitive in this league. Maybe then your ****ed up views will be less clouded and more realistic.
    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Perks of the draw mate. Leagues around the world always see a team get a good leg up with their opponents ranks decimated short term due to injury/suspensions etc

    Victree got a good leg up after the Jets played Nix away midweek and lost a few troops and had to basically wave the white flag at it. Was there any bitching that this was unfair that other clubs didn't get to play the Jets at such a vulnerable time?? NO

    So what if they play their younger players thats there perogative to select whoever they like. Southys coach is quite within his rights to purge off all your long ball larry blokes and pick a pile of kids if he feels that is the way he wishes to go.

    On another note Forever Red your bluster and carry on in this subject is for a team currently at the bottom end of the table after 3 rounds. What makes you think that they are certainties to start stringing a pile of wins together and all of a sudden dominate the league???
    Pretty sure the jets complained to FFA about the change of date to this fixture, I call that bitching, sounds like the truth hurts some people, go take a pill and lie down

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Perks of the draw mate. Leagues around the world always see a team get a good leg up with their opponents ranks decimated short term due to injury/suspensions etc

    Victree got a good leg up after the Jets played Nix away midweek and lost a few troops and had to basically wave the white flag at it. Was there any bitching that this was unfair that other clubs didn't get to play the Jets at such a vulnerable time?? NO
    So what if they play their younger players thats there perogative to select whoever they like. Southys coach is quite within his rights to purge off all your long ball larry blokes and pick a pile of kids if he feels that is the way he wishes to go.

    On another note Forever Red your bluster and carry on in this subject is for a team currently at the bottom end of the table after 3 rounds. What makes you think that they are certainties to start stringing a pile of wins together and all of a sudden dominate the league???
    I thought this was implying the other clubs weren't bitching about it not Middleby and GVE
    Maybe glasses are required

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