New competition and criteria

[ManUTDSupporter]

On the coaching system, why do they have a level C youth and senior? Why can't they have a system ofstarting with a youth team for a year or two and then may coach as they wish if good enough.
The only way your youth will excel (my opinion): state league criteria:
- must have 15s,16s and 19s (good enough 17 year olds will be given more experience jumping up in to19s after 16s - develop quicker)
-reserves should be of any age, as this is a stepping stone to who is good enough for firsts, gives a chance to bring some 19s up as see how they fair.
- firsts shall have atleast 5 under 23s starting a game.

I also believe clubs should be rewarded (per player) for each player who plays firsts grade, who has been brought up through the ranks of the club as a junior or been with the same club for 5 or more years. Any long serving player should also be then rewarded by the club

[MFKS]

On the coaching system, why do they have a level C youth and senior? Why can't they have a system ofstarting with a youth team for a year or two and then may coach as they wish if good enough.
The only way your youth will excel (my opinion): state league criteria:
- must have 15s,16s and 19s (good enough 17 year olds will be given more experience jumping up in to19s after 16s - develop quicker)
-reserves should be of any age, as this is a stepping stone to who is good enough for firsts, gives a chance to bring some 19s up as see how they fair.
- firsts shall have atleast 5 under 23s starting a game.

I also believe clubs should be rewarded (per player) for each player who plays firsts grade, who has been brought up through the ranks of the club as a junior or been with the same club for 5 or more years. Any long serving player should also be then rewarded by the club

Generally speaking what you are suggesting is similar to the effects of the point system if implemented fully. Blokes who have been brought through the grades are looked upon positively and juniors being pushed through the grades is the idea. Unfortunately far too many short sighted people can't see this

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Sorry - lost some of the formatting...

DATE: 1 July, 2013

TO: NBN State League and NewFM First Division Clubs

FROM: NNSWF CEO on behalf of the NCR Implementation Committee

SUBJECT: Final recommendations to the NNSWF Board of Directors

The purpose of this correspondence is to provide NBN State League and NewFM First Division Clubs (Clubs) with a summary of the National Competitions Review Implementation Committee’s (IC) amended recommendations, which will be presented by the CEO to NNSWF’s Board of Directors. The amendments to the initial recommendations, which were presented to clubs on 15 May, have been made in response to the feedback provided to the IC through the formal submission process and NNSWF’s participation in a NPL Operational Planning Meeting conducted by FFA on 18 June. Further detail relating to the IC’s amended recommendations follow;
1. Teams

1.1. NPL – Seasons 2014, 2015 & 2016

 First Grade, 22’s, 19’s, 17’s, 15’s, 14’s and 13’s
 The 22’s will act as the Reserve Team for the club. Up to 5 over-age players (one of which is allocated to a GK)
 Youth Competition Rules (13’s, 14’s & 15’s only) will prevent players registering up an age e.g. 13’s cannot play in 14’s. Rules will facilitate playing up in the case of injuries and unavailability. It is essential that youth players are given the opportunity to work through each of the National Curriculum’s Development Building Blocks and that the integrity and quality of each of the youth competitions is maintained.
 Clubs will be permitted to play the three youngest 14’s in the 13’s in the event of injuries and unavailability in the 13’s.
 Specific rules to be determined through Standing Committee
 Junior club players registered in the Interdistrict Competition will not be permitted to play in the NPL i.e. U/12 players will be ineligible in the NPL 13’s

1.2. First Division – Seasons 2014, 2015 & 2016
 First Grade, 23’s & 19’s (no 17’s)
 First Division Clubs seeking to be promoted to the NPL must be licenced in accordance with the Elite Club Accreditation Criteria;
 Licencing requirements for First Division Clubs include the entry of youth teams (13’s, 14’s & 15’s minimum) in the Interdistrict Competition (preferably A Grade);
 Clubs seeking to be promoted to the NPL must be licenced prior to the commencement of the current season i.e. to be eligible for promotion to the NPL in 2015 a First Division Club must be licenced prior to the start of the 2014 season;
 Promotion and relegation will only be enforced in the event that the First Division Premiers are licenced.
 Unlicenced First Division Premiers will not be afforded the opportunity to seek licencing prior to the commencement of the following season for the purpose of promotion.
 23’s will act as the Reserve Team for the club. Up to 6 over-age players (one of which is allocated to a GK)
 Unlicenced clubs competing in the First Division will be required at a minimum to maintain NNSWF’s existing Premier Competitions Criteria.

NNSWF will schedule a meeting of the First Division Standing Committee in the near future to provide further clarity.
2. Football Development Plan (FDP)

The FDP has been omitted from the Elite Club Accreditation Criteria (ECA) for the initial licence term. This is reflective of NNSWF’s Technical Director’s decision to position the Club TD at the Youth Level. Whilst the FDP is considered very important, this decision will allow Club TD’s to initially focus on Youth Teams.

3. Underpinning Programs, Teams and Competitions

 FFA has agreed to allow elite clubs to continue to compete in community competitions conducted by Member Zones.

 NNSWF will position accredited Skill Acquisition Programs (SAP) for 10 to 12 year olds conducted by NNSWF’s Member Zones (Hunter Region) as the primary pathway for aspiring NPL Players.
 Participation in NNSWF’s State Championships (Boys 11’s & 12’s), 12’s Tour of Japan and Emerging Jets (10’s, 11’s, 12’s & 13’s) will be exclusive to players in accredited SAP’s
 NNSWF acknowledges that some clubs may wish to enter underpinning junior teams in the Interdistrict Competition. Interdistrict players will be ineligible to play in the NPL.

4. Player Point System (PPS)

Football Federation Australia (FFA) has confirmed that the PPS is a mandatory component of the NPL.
FFA has endorsed the following amendments to PPS which was presented to clubs on 15 May.

4.1. Marquee Player

Definition: Player who last played in a domestic league sanctioned and conducted by a Member Association of FIFA. Lower divisions of foreign domestic leagues conducted directly by FIFA MA’s will be subject to FFA/NNSWF approval.
Points adjustment: 0
Further commentary: Switching and Age penalties do not apply to Marquee Players. Visa Player conditions and penalties apply.

4.2. Promoted Club

In addition to 30 bonus points added to their cap in the first year of promotion, FFA has determined that Switching Player penalties will not apply to promoted clubs in their first year of the NPL.

4.3. NPL Points Cap

The IC has recommended the following points caps:
2014:250
2015:230
2016:210
The IC’s recommendations are based on the outcome of the recent benchmarking exercise. Details follow;
WESTON WORKERS BEARS 180
CHARLESTOWN CITY BLUES 201
HAMILTON OLYMPIC 219
SOUTH CARDIFF 221
BROADMEADOW MAGIC 226
VALENTINE FC 247
EDGEWORTH EAGLES 305
LAKE MACQUARIE CITY 337
LAMBTON JAFFAS* 202
TOTAL 2138
AVERAGE POINTS 238**

*Lambton Jaffas was allocated 30 Bonus Points for promotion and in accordance with FFA directive, Switching Player penalties were not applied.
**The above points are reflective of adjustments made by NNSWF to the PPS summaries supplied by clubs. A number of PPS summaries contained incorrect data.
The allocation of a maximum of 250 points in 2014 is reflective of the fact that there may be minor discrepancies relating to the allocation of in particular Home Grown and Loyalty points.
 Clubs will be provided with the opportunity to scrutinise their competitors’ PPS summary prior to the commencement of each season. NNSWF will not investigate alleged discrepancies beyond the commencement of the season.

 It is vital that the PPS achieves its stated objectives of addressing unsustainable player payments and rewarding youth development.
 FFA has agreed to reconsider the appropriateness of penalising players over the age of 25 prior to the commencement of the next licence period i.e. prior to 2017
 The allocation of additional cap points throughout the initial licence period should not require any to force out a player over the age of 25 years due to the PPS.


Left out the last two section, FMNC and Admin Workload.

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From the accompanying power point slides:

3.1.2. Youth Development
Clubs will be required to develop a Youth Training Plan (13’s, 14’s, 15’s and 17’s) which in high detail outlines: mission, vision, goals, how National Curriculum will be implemented, trials, selection process, number of training sessions etc.
FFA to provide a template document by 30 September 2013 in readiness for season 2014.
The Club Technical Director will be required to secure endorsement from the State Technical Director.
The Club TD will be required to provide an annual evaluation report which outlines the coaching programs delivered, outcomes achieved and recommendations for future seasons.
NNSWF’s TD and Game Training Head Coach will conduct information sessions to assist Club TD’s to complete their plan.
Clubs will not be required to establish formal affiliation agreements with local community clubs or to deliver community football programs and services. NNSWF and Member Zones will continue to fulfill this function.

The Club must advise to the Member Federation the estimated costs, by type, incurred per season for each age group / team. The cost breakdown should also outline the component of fees which represents profit to the club. The fee structure must be reported to the Member Federation and FFA for approval on an annual basis. Member Federations or FFA will have the ability to require the Club to re-set fees if they are determined to be unreasonable.
The youth training program in place for all teams must be for a minimum of 8 months (February to September).

Clubs will be required to develop a Youth Training Plan (13’s, 14’s, 15’s and 17’s) which in high detail outlines: mission, vision, goals, how National Curriculum will be implemented, trials, selection process, number of training sessions etc.
FFA to provide a template document by 30 September 2013 in readiness for season 2014.
The Club Technical Director will be required to secure endorsement from the State Technical Director.
The Club TD will be required to provide an annual evaluation report which outlines the coaching programs delivered, outcomes achieved and recommendations for future seasons.
NNSWF’s TD and Game Training Head Coach will conduct information sessions to assist Club TD’s to complete their plan.
Clubs will not be required to establish formal affiliation agreements with local community clubs or to deliver community football programs and services. NNSWF and Member Zones will continue to fulfill this function.

The Club must advise to the Member Federation the estimated costs, by type, incurred per season for each age group / team. The cost breakdown should also outline the component of fees which represents profit to the club. The fee structure must be reported to the Member Federation and FFA for approval on an annual basis. Member Federations or FFA will have the ability to require the Club to re-set fees if they are determined to be unreasonable.
The youth training program in place for all teams must be for a minimum of 8 months (February to September).

[late_to_the_game]

Again formatting not too good!

3.1.3. Coaching

2014
First Team Coach
Hold a C-Licence and must have attended a State Coaching Conference during the previous 12 months.
First Team Assistant Coach
Hold a Senior Licence and must have attended a State Coaching Conference during the previous 12 months.
GK Coach
Hold a GK Certificate Licence and must have attended a State Coaching Conference during the previous 12 months.
22 Coach
Hold a Senior Licence and must have attended a State Coaching Conference during the previous 12 months.
19 Coach
Hold a Senior Licence and must have attended a State Coaching Conference during the previous 12 months.
Technical Director
(13 to 17)
Hold a C-Licence and must have attended a State Coaching Conference during the previous 12 months. TD can hold a coaching position.
17 Coach
Hold a Youth Licence
15 Coach
Hold a Youth Licence AND the (new) Youth Specialist Certificate
14 Coach
Hold a Youth Licence
13 Coach
Hold a Youth Licence


2015
First Team Coach
Hold/enrolled a/in 'new' B-Licence OR an 'old' A-Licence AND a refresher certificate
First Team Assistant Coach
Hold/enroll a/in 'new' C-Licence OR an 'old' B-Licence AND a refresher certificate
GK Coach
Hold a GK Certificate Licence and must have attended a State Coaching Conference during the previous 12 months.
22 Coach
Hold/enroll a/in 'new' C-Licence OR an 'old' C-Licence AND a refresher certificate
19 Coach
Hold a Senior Licence and must have attended a State Coaching Conference during the previous 12 months.
Technical Director
(13 to 17)
Hold/enrolled a 'new' B-Licence OR an 'old' B-Licence AND a refresher certificate
17 Coach
Hold a (new) Game Training Certificate and must have attended a State Coaching Conference during the previous 12 months
15 Coach
Hold (new) Youth Specialist Certificate and must have attended a State Coaching Conference during the previous 12 months
14 Coach
Hold (new) Youth Specialist Certificate and must have attended a State Coaching Conference during the previous 12 months
13 Coach
Hold a Skill Training Certificate and Youth Specialist Certificate



2016
First Team Coach
Hold a 'new' B-Licence OR an 'old' A-Licence AND a refresher certificate
First Team Assistant Coach
Hold a 'new' C-Licence OR an 'old' B-Licence AND a refresher certificate
GK Coach
Hold a GK Level 1 Licence and must have attended a State Coaching Conference during the previous 12 months.
22 Coach
Hold a 'new' C-Licence OR an 'old' C-Licence AND a refresher certificate
19 Coach
Hold a 'new' C-Licence
Technical Director
(13 to 17)
Hold a 'new' B-Licence OR an 'old' B-Licence AND a refresher certificate
17 Coach
Must hold the (new) Youth Specialist Certificate AND a C-License
15 Coach
Must hold the (new) Youth Specialist Certificate AND a C-Licence.
14 Coach
Must hold the (new) Youth Specialist Certificate AND a C-Licence
13 Coach
Must hold the (new) Youth Specialist Certificate AND a C-Licence


NNSWF will continue to identify opportunities to direct funding to the elite coaching accreditation fund;
NNSWF is prepared to consider providing clubs that support First Touch Football Supplies with additional funding towards elite coaching accreditation;
NNSWF’s preferred funding model is based on NNSWF, clubs and the coach contributing equally to the cost of accreditation. For example, FFA has reduced the cost of the C Licence to $1200 plus GST. Proposed funding model – NNSWF: $400 - Club: $400 - Coach: $400;
NNSWF reserves the right to determine which coaches or coaching positions are prioritised to receive funding from the elite coaching accreditation fund;
Current cost of the B Licence is $3900. NNSWF to determine contribution;
It is therefore proposed that clubs will need to budget to assist identified coaches;
FFA has agreed to draft an agreement, which will protect clubs that contribute financially to a coaches accreditation;
NNSWF will consult with FFA to implement competition regulations which will prohibit “unfinancial” coaches from registering with another club;
NNSWF is committed to conducting a C and B Licence annually for coaches in the Hunter Region and a C Licence every second year in Regional Northern NSW.

[late_to_the_game]

This one is for the obvious protagonists.....

3.1.6. Facilities
Clubs must adhere to NNSWF’s Premier Competitions Criteria;
Management is proposing a number of amendments such as the requirement for clubs to have at least exclusive access to their playing facility on alternate weekends;
Clubs will be required to prioritise identified facility enhancement projects within its Business Plan and Budget Forecast. The plan must consider facilities standards set by the Member Federation and address both the stadium and training facilities utilised by the Club.
Clubs will be required to respond to NNSWF’s strategic initiatives relating to facilities.
FFA will seek to establish nationally consistent facility standards in the medium term - these standards will be introduced in revised licencing criteria in the future.

[MFKS]

So in light of the current bench marks being what they are for the point system

WESTON WORKERS BEARS 180
CHARLESTOWN CITY BLUES 201
HAMILTON OLYMPIC 219
SOUTH CARDIFF 221
BROADMEADOW MAGIC 226
VALENTINE FC 247
EDGEWORTH EAGLES 305
LAKE MACQUARIE CITY 337
LAMBTON JAFFAS* 202

Most of the clubs with a slight tweaking or two would get under the 200 points next year with out much drama.

I see problems for Edgy and Lakes. Valo may have some problems but from all reports are merging with someone anyway.

Surprisingly Magic and Olympic were a lot closer to the 200 point mark than I would have thought.


Anyway makes a complete mockery of the tossers on here that say it couldn't be done. 1 Club is already under it and 5 clubs could with a few tweakings get under comfortably next year. Question now stands WHY ISN'T IT BEING DONE NEXT YEAR

[late_to_the_game]

Player Points System Detail - Better formatting this time!

The PPS assumes a mandatory squad size of 20 players for the First Team.

Each player is initially worth 10 points and the absolute point limit is 200 points per squad.

Player values are then discounted, or inflated, depending on the characteristics of the player and whether this characteristics have been prioritised. The adjusted values, which would be cumulative, areas follows:

Category Name	Category Description	Points Adjustment	Commentary
Standard Player	All players in the First team squad	+1	+1 for each year the player is over the age of 25
Visa Player	Player holding an international visa selected in the First Team squad. Permanent Residents are excluded in accordance with NRR	+10	Maximum of 2 visa players per squad
Home-grown Player	Player who has risen through the club’s development pathway within the licenced club to be selected in the First Team squad. (Youth defined as Grades 15, 17, 19 & 23)	-1	-1 for each Youth team the player has played >15 matches for in a season (max of 5)
Pathway Players	Players who have participated in an elite ‘pathway team’, such as the A-League, NYL, AIS or EJ’s but have returned to the licensed club and are members of the First Team squad	0	No penalty for players who have left a club, joined a pathway team and subsequently returned to the club
Rising Stars	Highly talented young player, under 18, who has been selected for the First Team squad	-3 -4 -5	if U18 player promoted to First Team If U/17 If U/16

Switching Player	Players who have switched clubs from the preceding season and are in the First Team squad. Applies to any club not just NPL.	+8 +4	Added points if a player switches clubs and played >5 games Added points if less played <5 games
Loyalty Player	Player that competes for the same club in their First Grade Squad for 5 consecutive seasons	-1	For each season (cumulative to a maximum of -5). Must reach 5 consecutive seasons before any points are applied
Youth Player Advancement (13 to 19)	Youth player that is signed from the club’s youth teams into a national elite team (HAL, NYL, AIS, EJ’s)	+3	One-off bonus to club’s PPS cap. Can be used for 1 season. Current or next
First Team Player Advancement	First Team Player that is signed from the club into a national elite team (HAL, NYL, AIS, EJ’s 18)	+8	One-off bonus to club’s PPS cap. Can be used for 1 season. Current or next
Marquee Player	Player who last played in a domestic league sanctioned and conducted by a Member Association of FIFA. Lower divisions of foreign domestic leagues conducted directly by FIFA MA’s will be subject to approval.	0	Approved by FFA. Age and Switching Player penalties do not apply. Visa conditions apply
Youth Pathway credit	Youth Club player who is selected into elite pathway and returns to club.	+1 for each season in elite pathway	Bonus points are applied to Home Grown Player points. Rejected by FFA due to Youth Player Advancement bonus.
Promoted club	Club promoted from lower division	+30	One-off bonus to club’s PPS cap. Switching Player penalties do not apply to promoted club in initial season of NPL.

[Zico]

Watch clubs go crazy while they still have 250 points to play with. Once it gets down to 200 points players movements will be very restricted.

[EH9]

My question from the above is that if a NEW FM club decides that they do not want to apply for a licence they simply have to meet the old criteria, that they already meet, and they can ignore all points listed above?

[Premy]

My question from the above is that if a NEW FM club decides that they do not want to apply for a licence they simply have to meet the old criteria, that they already meet, and they can ignore all points listed above?

They could most likely risk missing out as teams like Cooks Hill, Uni, Nelson Bay ect may apply

[MFKS]

So reading through the rules again a bloke who has played for the same club for years as they are getting older will not be forced out of the game as some of the full of shit people on here were claiming.

A player who has played first grade for 5 years at the same club is eligible for a point off their points tally for each year they have been at the club up to a max of 5. Balances out with the players being pinged a point after they reach 25 years plus. Add in the other deductions for coming through juniors at the club and the sky isn't falling as much as some of the deluded may think.

Obviously will punish players over 25 wanting to switch clubs but at that age they would want to be high quality at this level not general run of the mill players which is probably best

Zico once again proven to have NFI about anything despite him running his mouth on this subject

[Zico]

So reading through the rules again a bloke who has played for the same club for years as they are getting older will not be forced out of the game as some of the full of shit people on here were claiming.

A player who has played first grade for 5 years at the same club is eligible for a point off their points tally for each year they have been at the club up to a max of 5. Balances out with the players being pinged a point after they reach 25 years plus. Add in the other deductions for coming through juniors at the club and the sky isn't falling as much as some of the deluded may think.

Obviously will punish players over 25 wanting to switch clubs but at that age they would want to be high quality at this level not general run of the mill players which is probably best

Zico once again proven to have NFI about anything despite him running his mouth on this subject

[MFKS]

Just too much fun when you were wrong and I was right

[ForeverRed]

Just too much fun when you were wrong and I was right

Does zico know the ball is round 😳

[ManUTDSupporter]

Is there a criteria to being able to gain a 'C' licence? or to gain a 'B' licence after gaining C?
Do coaches get much money offered to them in the state league? In a sense so that there is high quality coaches available/ lured in?

[late_to_the_game]

You have to apply to attend any of the license courses. In general to do C you need a senior license and coaching experience, or have played at a high level.
To do B, you need the C and two years of coaching experience. in special circumstances you can be fast tracked. E.g. Ange Costanzo or Michael Bridges...
When I did my C, 26 in the course, only 20 passed initially. Six had to re-sit either the theory or practical exam sections. It was 13 days 9am to 8pm, one day off in the middle. It is serious stuff, but lots of fun, with a tremendous group of very motivated coaches, most of whom paid their own way onto the course.($3000+ two years ago)

[ManUTDSupporter]

You have to apply to attend any of the license courses. In general to do C you need a senior license and coaching experience, or have played at a high level.
To do B, you need the C and two years of coaching experience. in special circumstances you can be fast tracked. E.g. Ange Costanzo or Michael Bridges...
When I did my C, 26 in the course, only 20 passed initially. Six had to re-sit either the theory or practical exam sections. It was 13 days 9am to 8pm, one day off in the middle. It is serious stuff, but lots of fun, with a tremendous group of very motivated coaches, most of whom paid their own way onto the course.($3000+ two years ago)

Just looked on the federation page and I believe it is $1300 (no accommodation), for approx 5 or 7 days for C?
Doesn't say anything about a criteria, only for B saying you need C.
What do they class as high level? I understand being a professional player would be advantage, but surely so wine who is not a pro should be able to go as high as they wish, providing they prove themselves!
They may know the game better than anyone

[AcK0]

Just looked on the federation page and I believe it is $1300 (no accommodation), for approx 5 or 7 days for C?
Doesn't say anything about a criteria, only for B saying you need C.
What do they class as high level? I understand being a professional player would be advantage, but surely so wine who is not a pro should be able to go as high as they wish, providing they prove themselves!
They may know the game better than anyone

Totally agree, only have to look at Mourinho or Villas-Boas.

[Zico]

Does zico know the ball is round ��