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    Have heard Plattsy will be dropping out of Premier League due to lack of players. Not sure if they will drop down to ID comp with only two grades or gone altogether.

    Anyone else heard similar?

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    IF that happened would Warners Bay get to stay up? Should they be allowed to? Or is this the best news for garden suburb?

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    Think Warners Bay should stay up. Less not forget they were minor premiers twice before this season.

    Coaching saga at start of year is what cost them last years squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reds Forever View Post
    Have heard Plattsy will be dropping out of Premier League due to lack of players. Not sure if they will drop down to ID comp with only two grades or gone altogether.

    Anyone else heard similar?
    yep someone told be that the other day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reds Forever View Post
    Have heard Plattsy will be dropping out of Premier League due to lack of players. Not sure if they will drop down to ID comp with only two grades or gone altogether.

    Anyone else heard similar?
    Unlikely considering they are interviewing paid coaching positions at the moment. What would be of concern is the proximity of Wallsend and their willingness to pour their Six a Side profits into short term success.

    Reality is thou, while clubs in all leagues do keep in contact with Russell Henry and vice versa it is still months away before they have to actually make their applications for what division of ID they would like to play in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demon View Post
    Unlikely considering they are interviewing paid coaching positions at the moment. What would be of concern is the proximity of Wallsend and their willingness to pour their Six a Side profits into short term success.

    Reality is thou, while clubs in all leagues do keep in contact with Russell Henry and vice versa it is still months away before they have to actually make their applications for what division of ID they would like to play in.
    Get a life, idiot. That post was nothing more than a thinly veiled swipe at Wallsend on a number of fronts.

    1. Keep your criticism of other clubs to your solitary nights alone, featuring your own hand on your own dick.
    2. I would consider keeping your mouth shut when commenting on aspects of a club you have no idea about.
    3. We at Wallsend have had a VERY successful year (sorry, you sound jealous), and every person involved there is committed to the long term success of the club. More-so than any other club I have been involved with in my lifetime. Look for us to continue the success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amishpanda View Post
    Get a life, idiot. That post was nothing more than a thinly veiled swipe at Wallsend on a number of fronts.

    1. Keep your criticism of other clubs to your solitary nights alone, featuring your own hand on your own dick.
    2. I would consider keeping your mouth shut when commenting on aspects of a club you have no idea about.
    3. We at Wallsend have had a VERY successful year (sorry, you sound jealous), and every person involved there is committed to the long term success of the club. More-so than any other club I have been involved with in my lifetime. Look for us to continue the success.

    It wasn't a swipe at all. If I was Plattsy I would be worried that a far more financial club is what, 500M as the crow flies away. And player payments are hardly a secret in Zone Leagues.

    And the rest is fact, Plattsy advertised just last Sat again for paid 2014 ZPL coaches and if any club has concerns Russell Henry has always taken a very encouraging attitude to clubs having time to sort out issues like player numbers but that the final decision is still months away so Plattsy have time to address any player number issues.

    As far as Six a Side goes, my reference to short term is, as with all clubs running it, for NNSW's new facility to be as profitable as they have in their projections means it must become the dominant summer options and that means lower profits for everyone currently running summer comps. No one is in a worse psoition that Lakes who look certain to lose theirs and at what cost to their overall finances? At what cost to every club running summer sixes? No one can simply walk out and find replacement funds like that at a drop of the hat so what impact will that leave Jaffas, Lakes, Olympic (less so), Thornton, Wallsend inm I cant see Northern stepping and saying "thanks, here is some compensation for reducing your income"

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    And what chance is there for a Lake Macquarie competition to draw a majority custom from the city?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amishpanda View Post
    And what chance is there for a Lake Macquarie competition to draw a majority custom from the city?
    I think the options they will have available, the "novelty" impact of being on all weather surface, brand new facility, the marketing budget available to them, the player database they will have available, the ability to offer 7 day/evening a week competitions. They have a number of advantages clubs naturally struggle to match, I'm not saying I agree with them entering into direct competition with clubs, all I am acknowledging is there will be an impact on clubs profit and clubs will find it difficult to replace that money easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amishpanda View Post
    Get a life, idiot. That post was nothing more than a thinly veiled swipe at Wallsend on a number of fronts.

    1. Keep your criticism of other clubs to your solitary nights alone, featuring your own hand on your own dick.
    2. I would consider keeping your mouth shut when commenting on aspects of a club you have no idea about.
    3. We at Wallsend have had a VERY successful year (sorry, you sound jealous), and every person involved there is committed to the long term success of the club. More-so than any other club I have been involved with in my lifetime. Look for us to continue the success.
    Hey buddy settle down. If you actually think before typing you would realise that the comments were more respectful of Wallsend's ability to make a buck out of the summer comp and use these funds to pay and attract better players, than a "thinly veiled swipe" as you so eloquently put it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demon View Post
    i think the options they will have available, the "novelty" impact of being on all weather surface, brand new facility, the marketing budget available to them, the player database they will have available, the ability to offer 7 day/evening a week competitions. They have a number of advantages clubs naturally struggle to match, i'm not saying i agree with them entering into direct competition with clubs, all i am acknowledging is there will be an impact on clubs profit and clubs will find it difficult to replace that money easily.
    yes massive swipe - just have a read back , the question was only asked then you went on with six a side profits , short term success , no one wants to see teams go down for the wrong reasons , its not good for football , we hope plasty stay up , its good for the area , local rival games are always a great build up
    if you read back on demons posts earlier in the year , their is nothing but criticism against wallsend , this is not what the forum is about but i must say nice to read back on the early predictions and see how many where realistic and false claims made etc. And the ones that showed a lack of respect to us and this division after leaving it , i am sure you have been waiting for wallsend to fail but we didn’t 3 minor premierships is not a bad effort, i’m sure you will reply with so did warners bay and barnsley etc. And we paid to get players here, it was not the case as most of those boys are mates that wanted to come back and play together at a stable club, and that is well known in the zone competition, money was not a factor and is not your concern, as for worrying about six a side, we aren’t, the northern complex is years from been completed and you should know that. Be nice for you just to move on and let us be and keep your undermining comments to yourself .back to football , probably like others i get a bit frustrated by higher divisions comments on what zone through to id3 get from the likes of demon , zone premier and id1 competitions without a doubt have many talented players spread throughout the teams and the season and final series show cased this , yes it would be true many players have played in higher grades and playing in this grade for a variety of reasons , playing with mates, work ,family etc. , but it definitely does not say that they are less talented than the teams above them , nbn is in a league of its own , a grade below is newfm seriously it was a 3 club comp adamstown , maitland and bell swans these 3 sides all featured their 1st , 23 and 19 in the finals and show the strength that a football club should have in that competition , and then daylight- demons club- 4th west wallsend just scrapped in to be humiliated in the finals 4-0 and 3-0 after being beat 7-0 in the last round, we had 2 players from wallsend go and play at westy those where both 3rd grade players from the year before , if you look at westy lower grades the 23 finished only winning 3 games and 19 only winning 4 games both grades 2nd last with singleton below them in both grades and singleton also taking the spoon in 1st grade , besides smithy at westy the coaches are very inexperienced and these results back these claims , ironically smithy was at the id1 final and westy senior players have been around our games looking at players so we must not be that bad . Just highlighting that the likes of uni, cooks hill, dudley, mayfield, wallsend, suburbs (no disrespt to other teams just looking at depth results) which all have had a fair showing in each of their respective competitions added to their playing ranks and some clubs had the aspirations to go up would fairly be placed mid table, yes we realise some clubs can’t go up due to criteria’s etc. But i would fairly say if players or coaches in this competition and zone wanted or inspired to play or coach in new fm they could do so, so don’t criticizes players and coaches as you only show case that you are only worried about the statues of being in a higher grade for the glory etc. You have stated that it would be more technical etc. Blah , blah , blah and we don’t have the ability besides the top 3 theirs day light at this stage , interesting to read todays paper that only thornton and singleton didn’t apply for the new completion as only maitland and belswan would be at this stage only capable of competing my rant, let’s just play football , bring on six a side

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevieg View Post
    yes massive swipe - just have a read back , the question was only asked then you went on with six a side profits , short term success , no one wants to see teams go down for the wrong reasons , its not good for football , we hope plasty stay up , its good for the area , local rival games are always a great build up
    if you read back on demons posts earlier in the year , their is nothing but criticism against wallsend , this is not what the forum is about but i must say nice to read back on the early predictions and see how many where realistic and false claims made etc. And the ones that showed a lack of respect to us and this division after leaving it , i am sure you have been waiting for wallsend to fail but we didn’t 3 minor premierships is not a bad effort, i’m sure you will reply with so did warners bay and barnsley etc. And we paid to get players here, it was not the case as most of those boys are mates that wanted to come back and play together at a stable club, and that is well known in the zone competition, money was not a factor and is not your concern, as for worrying about six a side, we aren’t, the northern complex is years from been completed and you should know that. Be nice for you just to move on and let us be and keep your undermining comments to yourself .back to football , probably like others i get a bit frustrated by higher divisions comments on what zone through to id3 get from the likes of demon , zone premier and id1 competitions without a doubt have many talented players spread throughout the teams and the season and final series show cased this , yes it would be true many players have played in higher grades and playing in this grade for a variety of reasons , playing with mates, work ,family etc. , but it definitely does not say that they are less talented than the teams above them , nbn is in a league of its own , a grade below is newfm seriously it was a 3 club comp adamstown , maitland and bell swans these 3 sides all featured their 1st , 23 and 19 in the finals and show the strength that a football club should have in that competition , and then daylight- demons club- 4th west wallsend just scrapped in to be humiliated in the finals 4-0 and 3-0 after being beat 7-0 in the last round, we had 2 players from wallsend go and play at westy those where both 3rd grade players from the year before , if you look at westy lower grades the 23 finished only winning 3 games and 19 only winning 4 games both grades 2nd last with singleton below them in both grades and singleton also taking the spoon in 1st grade , besides smithy at westy the coaches are very inexperienced and these results back these claims , ironically smithy was at the id1 final and westy senior players have been around our games looking at players so we must not be that bad . Just highlighting that the likes of uni, cooks hill, dudley, mayfield, wallsend, suburbs (no disrespt to other teams just looking at depth results) which all have had a fair showing in each of their respective competitions added to their playing ranks and some clubs had the aspirations to go up would fairly be placed mid table, yes we realise some clubs can’t go up due to criteria’s etc. But i would fairly say if players or coaches in this competition and zone wanted or inspired to play or coach in new fm they could do so, so don’t criticizes players and coaches as you only show case that you are only worried about the statues of being in a higher grade for the glory etc. You have stated that it would be more technical etc. Blah , blah , blah and we don’t have the ability besides the top 3 theirs day light at this stage , interesting to read todays paper that only thornton and singleton didn’t apply for the new completion as only maitland and belswan would be at this stage only capable of competing my rant, let’s just play football , bring on six a side
    Best rant ever tell them how it is Stevieg and good luck in ZPL next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevieg View Post
    yes massive swipe - just have a read back , the question was only asked then you went on with six a side profits , short term success , no one wants to see teams go down for the wrong reasons , its not good for football , we hope plasty stay up , its good for the area , local rival games are always a great build up
    if you read back on demons posts earlier in the year , their is nothing but criticism against wallsend , this is not what the forum is about but i must say nice to read back on the early predictions and see how many where realistic and false claims made etc. And the ones that showed a lack of respect to us and this division after leaving it , i am sure you have been waiting for wallsend to fail but we didn’t 3 minor premierships is not a bad effort, i’m sure you will reply with so did warners bay and barnsley etc. And we paid to get players here, it was not the case as most of those boys are mates that wanted to come back and play together at a stable club, and that is well known in the zone competition, money was not a factor and is not your concern, as for worrying about six a side, we aren’t, the northern complex is years from been completed and you should know that. Be nice for you just to move on and let us be and keep your undermining comments to yourself .back to football , probably like others i get a bit frustrated by higher divisions comments on what zone through to id3 get from the likes of demon , zone premier and id1 competitions without a doubt have many talented players spread throughout the teams and the season and final series show cased this , yes it would be true many players have played in higher grades and playing in this grade for a variety of reasons , playing with mates, work ,family etc. , but it definitely does not say that they are less talented than the teams above them , nbn is in a league of its own , a grade below is newfm seriously it was a 3 club comp adamstown , maitland and bell swans these 3 sides all featured their 1st , 23 and 19 in the finals and show the strength that a football club should have in that competition , and then daylight- demons club- 4th west wallsend just scrapped in to be humiliated in the finals 4-0 and 3-0 after being beat 7-0 in the last round, we had 2 players from wallsend go and play at westy those where both 3rd grade players from the year before , if you look at westy lower grades the 23 finished only winning 3 games and 19 only winning 4 games both grades 2nd last with singleton below them in both grades and singleton also taking the spoon in 1st grade , besides smithy at westy the coaches are very inexperienced and these results back these claims , ironically smithy was at the id1 final and westy senior players have been around our games looking at players so we must not be that bad . Just highlighting that the likes of uni, cooks hill, dudley, mayfield, wallsend, suburbs (no disrespt to other teams just looking at depth results) which all have had a fair showing in each of their respective competitions added to their playing ranks and some clubs had the aspirations to go up would fairly be placed mid table, yes we realise some clubs can’t go up due to criteria’s etc. But i would fairly say if players or coaches in this competition and zone wanted or inspired to play or coach in new fm they could do so, so don’t criticizes players and coaches as you only show case that you are only worried about the statues of being in a higher grade for the glory etc. You have stated that it would be more technical etc. Blah , blah , blah and we don’t have the ability besides the top 3 theirs day light at this stage , interesting to read todays paper that only thornton and singleton didn’t apply for the new completion as only maitland and belswan would be at this stage only capable of competing my rant, let’s just play football , bring on six a side
    Try using paragraphs mate. This is just terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demon View Post
    There is a lot more taken into consideration in being promoted from ZPL to NSWFM than just between leagues in the Zone system, which is why is happens so rarely.

    Uni would struggle under a number of the criteria - no ground fencing so can charge admission & covered seating would be two hurdles. And Cooks Hill the same.... with the Athletics track amenities they might have a fence and covered seating but considering the money NBN and NewFM clubs have to find to continually be looking to upgrade their dressing sheds etc clubs will near riot of Cooks Hill were ever admitted with dressing sheds at the Athletics Track.

    And now with the introduction of the NPL Licence system the step between the two is set to become even larger. The criteria system that was used several years ago gave clubs a score out of 100 (ten areas scored out of ten points each) and only one of those ten areas related to results on the park.
    Really? Well, as pokey as it that 'AWAY' shed, at least it has 3 amenities to relieve one's self and 3 showers,
    which is more than I can say for the HOME SHED of a very recently visited NBN club
    AND the away shed of a club within our Div that was former NewFM. 1 'crapper' per shed.
    Clubs adhering to criteria? You gotta be kidding me!

    Developments in the works for wots under that grandstand btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boz-monaut View Post
    admittedly I'm a bit biased but I don't think the geographical location should be that big an issue

    there are more inner suburban clubs because that's where the players are from

    do rugby ever think they should have clubs out west when they all live in the east?

    does rugby league ever worry they don't have a team from suburbs where folks can't read and don't rape dogs for fun?
    I like you passion for the Cookers and enjoy reading your ideas for the club but what you have posted here is ****ed up. What's the go with your stuck up attitude? Can't read and rape dogs? Isn't that a bit over the top? Go back to sipping your short black in Darby St Yuppie

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    Quote Originally Posted by howardyou View Post
    Hey buddy settle down. If you actually think before typing you would realise that the comments were more respectful of Wallsend's ability to make a buck out of the summer comp and use these funds to pay and attract better players, than a "thinly veiled swipe" as you so eloquently put it.
    We don't need former members telling us "how the way club used to be run is better than it is run now" - thanks very much.

    The attraction of better players has NOTHING to do with our 'willingness to pour 6 a side profits,' and EVERYTHING to do with creating a decent club culture that players are more than willing to be apart of. If you think any differently - try pulling away any member of the core first grade squad with the promise of payments. I doubt highly that you will succeed.

    Why I got fired up? There were a couple of us responsible for attracting said players and creating such a culture - to put our efforts down to throwing money around is offensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCBT View Post
    I like you passion for the Cookers and enjoy reading your ideas for the club but what you have posted here is ****ed up. What's the go with your stuck up attitude? Can't read and rape dogs? Isn't that a bit over the top? Go back to sipping your short black in Darby St Yuppie
    stuckup? yuppie? your out of touch old man. Defending nrl cvnts wont get you anywhere. Maybe you havent noticed this yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by furns View Post
    everyone in this thread better calm down before we start banning people and deleting posts
    Must be the off-season. Can't kick people on weekends anymore to let the aggression out........

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    What are everyone's thoughts on the massive brick wall that has been erected between ZPL and NEWFM. I am pretty frustrated that teams in ZPL were not even considered in the slightest. Surely it makes more sense for NEWFM to be a 10 team comp (whether its Uni, Cookers, Dudley or anyone else who gets the chance). Heck, it may even breathe a new bit of life into the very stale NEWFM league. I know criteria needs to be met, etc, but at least give clubs the opportunity.

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