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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirt Boy View Post
    meh....
    What. A. Gumnut.

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    SB plz
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    Spurs are right.

    It's about glory!

    Dial Square hasn't had spurs score against us in the last three.

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    Jan Vertonghen has said that the top four has improved but Sp*rs have stayed still. He also said the most fitting & brilliantly hilarious line I've read from a Sp*rs fan/player in a long time.

    "I do not want to look at the table any more because the gap (to the top four) is very big," said Vertonghen.
    There's three words that I know need to go here, SB. Can you help me out with them? SB plz
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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    Jan Vertonghen has said that the top four has improved but Sp*rs have stayed still. He also said the most fitting & brilliantly hilarious line I've read from a Sp*rs fan/player in a long time.



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    Please wait till st totteringhams day.

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    I don't fully understand this title race tbh.

    I can't look past Man Citeh personally, but I'm not fully understanding the Liverpool/Arsenal race and how everyone views it. They're both on equal points, equal games played. But if you ask anyone, Liverpool are in the title race whilst Arsenal are in a decent position to finish top four.

    Their respective fixtures are fairly similar. They both play Chels, City, Wham, Newcastle & Norwich. Arsenal also play Swansea, Everton, Hull & Wbrom whereas Pool play Cardiff (away), Sunderland, Sp*rs & Palace. But it's worth noting all of Pools "big" games are at home. With Arsenal having 1, and assumingly 2 FA Cup games in there also. But I would say Pool have the harder run home.

    TAB has Liverpool at $3.75 to win the title, and Arsenal at $11.

    Yes, Arsenal seem to not have squad depth (particularly if Giroud is injured) but they've had the same issues the whole season and have still gotten here. And Jan/Feb are notoriously their bad months, and that is past now. They've got Ramsey coming back in, who (even though he has missed a lot of the season) has a chance of getting in Team of the Season he was so brilliant (and for all those "nope, no way" guys out there - Sturridge has only played 1.5-2 games worth of minutes more than Ramsey so think about that).

    I don't know. I personally can't see anyone but Citeh or Chelsea winning it - but I can't understand the Liverpool/Arsenal comparisons and how much it just doesn't make sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    I don't fully understand this title race tbh.

    I can't look past Man Citeh personally, but I'm not fully understanding the Liverpool/Arsenal race and how everyone views it. They're both on equal points, equal games played. But if you ask anyone, Liverpool are in the title race whilst Arsenal are in a decent position to finish top four.

    Their respective fixtures are fairly similar. They both play Chels, City, Wham, Newcastle & Norwich. Arsenal also play Swansea, Everton, Hull & Wbrom whereas Pool play Cardiff (away), Sunderland, Sp*rs & Palace. But it's worth noting all of Pools "big" games are at home. With Arsenal having 1, and assumingly 2 FA Cup games in there also. But I would say Pool have the harder run home.

    TAB has Liverpool at $3.75 to win the title, and Arsenal at $11.

    Yes, Arsenal seem to not have squad depth (particularly if Giroud is injured) but they've had the same issues the whole season and have still gotten here. And Jan/Feb are notoriously their bad months, and that is past now. They've got Ramsey coming back in, who (even though he has missed a lot of the season) has a chance of getting in Team of the Season he was so brilliant (and for all those "nope, no way" guys out there - Sturridge has only played 1.5-2 games worth of minutes more than Ramsey so think about that).

    I don't know. I personally can't see anyone but Citeh or Chelsea winning it - but I can't understand the Liverpool/Arsenal comparisons and how much it just doesn't make sense to me.
    Yeah maybe. But also look at the way Liverpool played on the weekend compared to Arsenal?

    Just look at the weekend. All dick waving aside, if you were a gunners fan you would have to be concerned with the way they played on Sunday coming towards the end of the season.

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    Liverpool's GD is much better than ours right? That's the only reason I can see for everyone jerking off about 'Pool being in line for the title and completely disregarding us.

    FW was doing it in the latest pod as well.

    If we don't win I hope City do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    TAB has Liverpool at $3.75 to win the title, and Arsenal at $11.
    odds are manipulated based on the betting activity for the events. these odds indicate that either big money is going in for liverpool (relative to arsenal) and/or that the TAB consider liverpool to be a more likely winner.

    if you read about betting behaviour, especially to live in-play betting, you will see thast many people also over-react to match events. for instance, see the swing in odds in response to a goal scored early or a sending off. the swing in (betting) odds is often over-exaggerated compared to the change in (statistical) odds. human beings are emotional and subjective. the statasticians at the bookies are non-emotional and objective. the disposal of man utd at old trafford is one of those events which will bring about a large shift in betting behaviour.

    furthermore, as SB says, consider how liverpool have played against Man utd (and recently, arsenal, everton, spurs, even southampton) and compare that to how arsenal have performed. chalk and cheese atm.

    again, consider how liverpool have performed at anfield against big teams, compared to how arsenal have performed against big teams. based on form, i think you'd agree one of the two are more likely to pick up more points against their rivals.

    the current betting odds are reflected in the above (and perhaps more i haven't thought of / am unaware of / have neglected)
    we will loose

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    Out of curiosity what is the Win Loss record in the North Londen Derby in say the last 20 years ie since the EPL started???

    Spuds would have about as good a record in these games as the Jets do in games vs Wellington Phoenix

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    Last time the teams played Arsenal went through 2-1 winners.

    Pool also scraped by Swansea and Fulham and drew with WBA a team in the relegation scrap.
    They also drew with Villa and lost to both Chelsea and City.

    Yes their current form is way better than Arsenal's but looking back at our fixtures the real stand-out is the loss to Stoke, this was shocking.

    Other than that we've only recently dropped points against Pool and Utd.

    Our season will be defined by our coming games against City and Chelsea.

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    since the EPL started....


    played 44,
    Gunners 74 Goals
    Spurs 52 Goals
    Gunners 17 wins, Spurs 9 wins, Draws 18.

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    Intriguing, what can we read from those stats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by russjaybee View Post
    Intriguing, what can we read from those stats?
    SPUDS ARE SHIT

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazFish35 View Post
    since the EPL started....


    played 44,
    Gunners 74 Goals
    Spurs 52 Goals
    Gunners 17 wins, Spurs 9 wins, Draws 18.
    I am surprised Spuds have won that many. With the exception of about 3-4 years ago where Spuds had a spell where they beat Arsenal a few times my perception would be spuds have been Arsenals bitches

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    its been 20 years since they last finished above us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirt Boy View Post
    Yeah maybe. But also look at the way Liverpool played on the weekend compared to Arsenal?

    Just look at the weekend. All dick waving aside, if you were a gunners fan you would have to be concerned with the way they played on Sunday coming towards the end of the season.
    Yeah but remember that on the weekend we played a team contesting top 4, whereas pool played a mid table team

    #yep
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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    I don't fully understand this title race tbh.

    I can't look past Man Citeh personally, but I'm not fully understanding the Liverpool/Arsenal race and how everyone views it. They're both on equal points, equal games played. But if you ask anyone, Liverpool are in the title race whilst Arsenal are in a decent position to finish top four.

    Their respective fixtures are fairly similar. They both play Chels, City, Wham, Newcastle & Norwich. Arsenal also play Swansea, Everton, Hull & Wbrom whereas Pool play Cardiff (away), Sunderland, Sp*rs & Palace. But it's worth noting all of Pools "big" games are at home. With Arsenal having 1, and assumingly 2 FA Cup games in there also. But I would say Pool have the harder run home.

    TAB has Liverpool at $3.75 to win the title, and Arsenal at $11.

    Yes, Arsenal seem to not have squad depth (particularly if Giroud is injured) but they've had the same issues the whole season and have still gotten here. And Jan/Feb are notoriously their bad months, and that is past now. They've got Ramsey coming back in, who (even though he has missed a lot of the season) has a chance of getting in Team of the Season he was so brilliant (and for all those "nope, no way" guys out there - Sturridge has only played 1.5-2 games worth of minutes more than Ramsey so think about that).

    I don't know. I personally can't see anyone but Citeh or Chelsea winning it - but I can't understand the Liverpool/Arsenal comparisons and how much it just doesn't make sense to me.
    imo liverpool are playing well but i think that history and hype are clouding the betting odds for this. city and chelks still have it. Arse and pool have to prove their consistency. at least its worth following this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snake View Post
    odds are manipulated based on the betting activity for the events. these odds indicate that either big money is going in for liverpool (relative to arsenal) and/or that the TAB consider liverpool to be a more likely winner.

    if you read about betting behaviour, especially to live in-play betting, you will see thast many people also over-react to match events. for instance, see the swing in odds in response to a goal scored early or a sending off. the swing in (betting) odds is often over-exaggerated compared to the change in (statistical) odds. human beings are emotional and subjective. the statasticians at the bookies are non-emotional and objective. the disposal of man utd at old trafford is one of those events which will bring about a large shift in betting behaviour.

    furthermore, as SB says, consider how liverpool have played against Man utd (and recently, arsenal, everton, spurs, even southampton) and compare that to how arsenal have performed. chalk and cheese atm.

    again, consider how liverpool have performed at anfield against big teams, compared to how arsenal have performed against big teams. based on form, i think you'd agree one of the two are more likely to pick up more points against their rivals.

    the current betting odds are reflected in the above (and perhaps more i haven't thought of / am unaware of / have neglected)
    Yep, all understood.

    But $8 difference in odds? I just don't really see THAT much difference tbh. Especially when Pool are within $1 of Citeh & Chelsea
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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    Yeah but remember that on the weekend we played a team contesting top 4, whereas pool played a mid table team

    #yep
    I'll give you that one.

    At least we can be in agreement..............Manure are absolutely dog

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