Daily Australian News Thread 2015

[joel31]

Good on Bridges. He didn't just take the money. He stood up for the club against Tinkler's and Stubbs regime

[hausmann]

It always amazes me that the powerful never see their fall coming, even so close to the end.

They are too used to treating people like pawns and are surprised to see their pawns display free will.

[seldom]

I wonder how much of Bridges decision was based off the reactions of the fans, of Zane and the other coaches, off the sacked players, and the media guys like what Harper was saying (basically pointing out the fact that Bridges is always within reaching distance of the people who survive the shitty, ugly turmoils and the fact that during all our messy years he's pretty much the common denominator). Or whether he had made his mind up well before all that. I hazard a guess he made his mind up after all this unravelled, otherwise why would he not have left when Zane and co did.

I'm with pv4 on this one...backlash from the community or come out smelling like roses. With a family and business in newy the latter made more sense.

[pv4]

I must state though, I have no issue with Bridges attempting to save his own rep here.

What I am most interested in is his motives.

The Lost 5 plus at least Zane have all stated that they saw issues with where Stubbins and Tinkler were heading with the club, and wanted to save not only the club but football in general in Newcastle. They united together to make a stand against this.

Seemingly, Bridges did not unite with them. And judging by his media release, he seems only to have resigned due to the fact that he thought the manner in which the guys were let go wasn't professional enough.

So the whole saving Newcastle football etc, that The Lost 5 and the coaches seem to be insistent on, doesn't seem to be Bridges' motivator. That's what I'm most interested in here.

[Jeterpool]

I must state though, I have no issue with Bridges attempting to save his own rep here.

What I am most interested in is his motives.

The Lost 5 plus at least Zane have all stated that they saw issues with where Stubbins and Tinkler were heading with the club, and wanted to save not only the club but football in general in Newcastle. They united together to make a stand against this.

Seemingly, Bridges did not unite with them. And judging by his media release, he seems only to have resigned due to the fact that he thought the manner in which the guys were let go wasn't professional enough.

So the whole saving Newcastle football etc, that The Lost 5 and the coaches seem to be insistent on, doesn't seem to be Bridges' motivator. That's what I'm most interested in here.

Firstly, this is just me looking at other reasons for discussion, because I don't know. I'm just trying to be a balance.

I wonder, does Stubbins have all of his relevant coaching credentials? Does Bridges? could this be a reason he was retained and the others weren't?

Perhaps Bridges supported the players? Maybe he was retained because Stubbins needed someone? Or his approach with Stubbins was different to Zane et. al.?

Was Bridges a Stubbins appointment? He played with lots of these players for a number of years and maybe he felt a need to stay and support them? Maybe he saw what went on in the meeting yesterday and thought "this isn't right" and took the night to mull over his next move?

[The Dunster]

The Bridges resignation for me is little more than someone clinging on to a serpent to save themselves from drowning.

It wouldn't suprise me if he knew about the player and coaching staff sackings before the players and coaching staff did.

He may have fooled MFKS but he certainly doesn't have me convinced that he's for anyone other than himself.

[pv4]

Jpool IIRC Stubbins had to take charge of Adelaide's ACL campaign because Vidmar didn't have the credentials to do so. So I think Stubbins has more than enough certification to coach in the HAL.

I still have unanswered questions on Bridges' coaching certificates.

[Jeterpool]

Jpool IIRC Stubbins had to take charge of Adelaide's ACL campaign because Vidmar didn't have the credentials to do so. So I think Stubbins has more than enough certification to coach in the HAL.

I still have unanswered questions on Bridges' coaching certificates.

OK

[leftrightout]

I must state though, I have no issue with Bridges attempting to save his own rep here.

What I am most interested in is his motives.

The Lost 5 plus at least Zane have all stated that they saw issues with where Stubbins and Tinkler were heading with the club, and wanted to save not only the club but football in general in Newcastle. They united together to make a stand against this.

Seemingly, Bridges did not unite with them. And judging by his media release, he seems only to have resigned due to the fact that he thought the manner in which the guys were let go wasn't professional enough.

So the whole saving Newcastle football etc, that The Lost 5 and the coaches seem to be insistent on, doesn't seem to be Bridges' motivator. That's what I'm most interested in here.

Or instead of making a decision straight away, he just slept on it and it still wasn't sitting right with him?
After all, the 5 players plus assistants that went because they didn't like what was happening is much the same as Bridges who has quit because he doesn't like the way things are being handled.
Everyone is loving the rumoured extra couple of players who stuck their hands up and said no to stubbins in yesterdays meeting, isn't that exactly the same?
I know your are very anti Bridges so you will always look for even a slight negative in the story involving him but i don't see your point here.

[belchardo]

I wonder, does Stubbins have all of his relevant coaching credentials? Does Bridges? could this be a reason he was retained and the others weren't?

Stubbins: Pro Diploma / AFC 'A' Licence / F.A. International Licence
Bridges: was in the process of finishing a B-licence in 2013 (http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/arti...q1xvbeal6g6hag)

[pv4]

Or instead of making a decision straight away, he just slept on it and it still wasn't sitting right with him?
After all, the 5 players plus assistants that went because they didn't like what was happening is much the same as Bridges who has quit because he doesn't like the way things are being handled.
Everyone is loving the rumoured extra couple of players who stuck their hands up and said no to stubbins in yesterdays meeting, isn't that exactly the same?
I know your are very anti Bridges so you will always look for even a slight negative in the story involving him but i don't see your point here.

I'm not sure I've actually stated a point but rather asked questions on Bridges motivator.

What I am throwing out as a hypothetical is that Bridges had his head too far buried up the arses of Stubbins and Tinkler, similar to the Branko and GVE sagas, rather than be a real teammate/good guy and do what was right for the club&town. And it was only after seeing the backlash from the supporters, media (particularly Andy Harper singling him out!), etc that he decided it was in the best interest for himself to quit - rather than motivators that us supporters can rally behind like The Lost 5, the sacked assistants, and the 3 Amigos. My hypothetical is maybe it wasn't as selfless an act as it seems the rest of the recent departures were.

[Smeezyy]

I'll always support bridges, I think what he did was 100% in support of the sacked players and an act of defiance against the management. He can be quoted as saying today that he hopes that he returns to a role at the Jets and that he has no plans to leave newcastle. Just accept that he loves the club and has its bed interests at heart.

As mentioned above, Cara, Jeronimo and Nev are being hailed as heroes for stadimg up against this regime, so why not bridges too?

[leftrightout]

I'm not sure I've actually stated a point but rather asked questions on Bridges motivator.

What I am throwing out as a hypothetical is that Bridges had his head too far buried up the arses of Stubbins and Tinkler, similar to the Branko and GVE sagas, rather than be a real teammate/good guy and do what was right for the club&town. And it was only after seeing the backlash from the supporters, media (particularly Andy Harper singling him out!), etc that he decided it was in the best interest for himself to quit - rather than motivators that us supporters can rally behind like The Lost 5, the sacked assistants, and the 3 Amigos. My hypothetical is maybe it wasn't as selfless an act as it seems the rest of the recent departures were.

So he took a day to think about it, heard or read fans opinions and then made a decision. Isn't that what we want in our club? People who care about what the fans think?
You are so anti bridges you are siding with Andy Harper...

[MFKS]

Stubbins: Pro Diploma / AFC 'A' Licence / F.A. International Licence
Bridges: was in the process of finishing a B-licence in 2013 (http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/arti...q1xvbeal6g6hag)

Last year when Zane took over from GVE and Bridges was given the job as Assistant he was not able to sit on the bench as a coach as his certs were not high enough. He was named as a sub which allowed him on there. That was confirmed by Pascoe

Whether Bridge has got them since not certain but you would assume he would have got them done in over 12 months particularly moving from the playing to coaching aspect of his career

[defor]

hope FFA step in tomorrow,if so ,I would assume they have a new coach and admin staff already organised. someone like Herbert would fill the bill as an interim,then hopefully the talk about Dundee is true. I fully support the 5,had to happen.Dutchy was an imposter,but stubbins is in a class of his own,when it comes to BS. P.S. Hope new owners ditch the knights colours.

[Grimario]

I'm not sure I've actually stated a point but rather asked questions on Bridges motivator.

What I am throwing out as a hypothetical is that Bridges had his head too far buried up the arses of Stubbins and Tinkler, similar to the Branko and GVE sagas, rather than be a real teammate/good guy and do what was right for the club&town. And it was only after seeing the backlash from the supporters, media (particularly Andy Harper singling him out!), etc that he decided it was in the best interest for himself to quit - rather than motivators that us supporters can rally behind like The Lost 5, the sacked assistants, and the 3 Amigos. My hypothetical is maybe it wasn't as selfless an act as it seems the rest of the recent departures were.

Here you go, pv4...

From what I've heard, people shouldn't be canonising Michael Bridges, Robbie Middleby & Ray Baartz for their resignations #Jets

[Jeterpool]

Here you go, pv4...

Who's that from?

[sammydog]

Who's that from?

@johnnydavidson

[furns]

I wouldn't take anything that bloke says as gospel either. Blogger masquerading as a journo. And failing at it.

[Grimario]

I wouldn't take anything that bloke says as gospel either. Blogger masquerading as a journo. And failing at it.

You're a blogger.

Wouldn't have gotten as far if it wasn't for his dad. Or is that Jason?