2015 Zone Premier League thread

[Shayne]

Garden Suburb V Dudley

Res

1 - 3

First

5 - 4

[hawk]

Garden Suburb V Dudley

Res 1 - 3
First 5 - 4

Garden Subs* have found their mojo.

*more than one

[Nou Camp]

Cardiff vs suns
1sts 1-2
Res 3-1
3rds 7-2

[Shere Khan]

Anyone know Barnsley/Mayfield scores?

[Donk]

Anyone know Barnsley/Mayfield scores?

1-0 mayfield 3rds
1-0 Barnsley res
3-1 mayfield 1st 2nil half time

[slobsy]

1-0 mayfield 3rds
1-0 Barnsley res
3-1 mayfield 1st 2nil half time

it was 2-0 Barnsley in reserve grade

[Donk]

it was 2-0 Barnsley in reserve grade

That it was thanks

[gny]

Bero v uni
3rd 3-3
Res 1-0 uni
1sts 4-0 bero

[hawk]

Bero v uni
3rd 3-3
Res 1-0 uni
1sts 4-0 bero

Bero mastered the small field with physical high pressure football everywhere.
Uni became standoffish to the beast of Burty who won everything in the air almost without challenge.

[Shere Khan]

Sorry Hawk I beg to differ.

[Donk]

Cardiff vs suns
1sts 1-2
Res 3-1
3rds 7-2
Who won first? On here it says sun's on SP says cardiff

[hawk]

Sorry Hawk I beg to differ.

lol, thats ok. better luck next week.

[gny]

What did you think of the game shere khan?

[NewyTy]

Who won first? On here it says sun's on SP says cardiff

Suns won 2-1. Looked on their Facebook page and SP now says Suns as well. Does anyone have a result for New Lambton v Swansea?

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Suns won 2-1. Looked on their Facebook page and SP now says Suns as well. Does anyone have a result for New Lambton v Swansea?

3rd/23's- 4-0 New Lambton
Reserves- 4-1 New Lambton
Firsts- 4-1 Swansea

[NewyTy]

3rd/23's- 4-0 New Lambton
Reserves- 4-1 New Lambton
Firsts- 4-1 Swansea

Thanks, bit of an upset there in firsts.

[Fridge]

Dudley v Suburb
1st 2-2
res 5-0
3rds 3-2

[Phoenix12]

Premiership favorites for each grade ?...

Mine...

1sts - Berro
Reserves - Uni
3rds - Dudley

Others ?

[Shere Khan]

Gny I watched Tues and Sun and both games you started like a house on fire and then stopped. Uni got back into the game and put some pressure on but they are awesome at stuffing up in front of goal.
You guys then shook it off and finished them.
Difference is you guys play for 90 mins and not many teams do.

[footballfan]

Thanks, bit of an upset there in firsts.

Why is this an upset result?
Swansea dominated and Lambton are not even close to the team they were a few years ago.
Definitely not an upset!!

[howardyou]

Why is this an upset result?
Swansea dominated and Lambton are not even close to the team they were a few years ago.
Definitely not an upset!!

Jaffas?

[footballfan]

Jaffas?

For you simple people out there, just try and work it out in due time which Lambton it is!

[leftrightout]

I have heard there was a serious injury in the cardiff vs dudley game? can anyone confirm what actually happened?

[slobsy]

For you simple people out there, just try and work it out in due time which Lambton it is!

or you could just type the correct name of the suburb in the first place.

[Shere Khan]

Cardiffs res and first keepers both went off. Res grade keep out for four weeks first grade ok.
Not sure about Dudley guys but didn't see anything.

[Phoenix12]

Gny I watched Tues and Sun and both games you started like a house on fire and then stopped. Uni got back into the game and put some pressure on but they are awesome at stuffing up in front of goal.
You guys then shook it off and finished them.
Difference is you guys play for 90 mins and not many teams do.

Seems to be a disease at Uni at the moment ! Inability to take chances (and some really simple chances at that). If Uni can start to get some rythm up front they will be contenders..and with some hard matches coming up it would be as good a time as any !

[Phoenix12]

or you could just type the correct name of the suburb in the first place.

LOL..

I am sure New Lambton could just be referred to as the Eagles in this comp !

[Phoenix12]

Why is this an upset result?
Swansea dominated and Lambton are not even close to the team they were a few years ago.
Definitely not an upset!!

I wouldnt say it was an upset...Swansea are capable of a very good game on their day...IMO though, they lack consistency. New Lambton can be the same... The upset is really the amount of goals put in...was it a n easy win..did the goals come from good attacking play or poor defense etc etc... Sometimes its hard to tell how close a game was even with large scores.

[NewyTy]

I was the first to call it an upset as I only started following this comp late last year and New Lambton were premiers. Guess I jumped the gun a bit, especially considering Swansea beat them mid-week and then again on the weekend. Obviously Swansea are decent or they wouldn't be so high up on the table.

[Sir]

I have heard there was a serious injury in the cardiff vs dudley game? can anyone confirm what actually happened?

Are you referring to Dudley and Garden Suburbs this recent weekend?

If so, I believe one of the Garden Suburb lads received quite a late challenge and was stretched off. Ambulance eventually came to take him to get a scan. Unsure of his condition.

[Phoenix12]

Are you referring to Dudley and Garden Suburbs this recent weekend?

If so, I believe one of the Garden Suburb lads received quite a late challenge and was stretched off. Ambulance eventually came to take him to get a scan. Unsure of his condition.

Hope he is all right.... Some of the late challenges you see in this comp that go unpunished are pretty ordinary...(Not knowing if this challenge received a sanction or not though)

[Shayne]

Hope he is all right.... Some of the late challenges you see in this comp that go unpunished are pretty ordinary...(Not knowing if this challenge received a sanction or not though)

This challenge was pretty ordinary, very late. Player received a yellow.

Player was stretched off, went for scans which revealed no break. Unsure of the extent of the damage, though last I heard he still wasn't able to walk.

[Sir]

This challenge was pretty ordinary, very late. Player received a yellow.

Player was stretched off, went for scans which revealed no break. Unsure of the extent of the damage, though last I heard he still wasn't able to walk.

Oh my.

Garden Suburbs appeared to have had a comfortable 2 goal lead before the incident. :gent:

[leftrightout]

Are you referring to Dudley and Garden Suburbs this recent weekend?

If so, I believe one of the Garden Suburb lads received quite a late challenge and was stretched off. Ambulance eventually came to take him to get a scan. Unsure of his condition.

Sorry that must have been the game. I was told cardiff but it was on the weekend so my apologies.
Hope the player is recovering well, its not good to hear.

[Jardelsimage]

I was the first to call it an upset as I only started following this comp late last year and New Lambton were premiers. Guess I jumped the gun a bit, especially considering Swansea beat them mid-week and then again on the weekend. Obviously Swansea are decent or they wouldn't be so high up on the table.

can someone from the Eagles please update the pulse scores, cheers

[oneeye]

can someone from the Eagles please update the pulse scores, cheers

Maybe when the Super club starts up someone will have Internet access !!

[Metal_footballer22]

Yeah they had 2 goal lead. But after a unworthy pen given made it 2-1. Then they were on the back foot. But a fair outcome considering what the day meant for Dudley. There in fine form since they there keeper got dropped and the ressies keeper went up. Apparently he came from Olympic 4 games into the season.

[Shere Khan]

Swansea Cardiff
1-3
4-2
1-1 1sts
First grade even first half.
Second half Swansea pushed hard and after Cardiff had 2 goal line clearances put away one. Cardiff lost a bloke to a very poor linesman. Ten men.
Near the end Cardiff managed to
put away a good finish.
Fair game over all.

Funny though Swansea linesman went awol with 20 to go haha.

[hawk]

Uni V New Lambt
1st 1-1
res 1-1
3rd 4-3

Uni much more suited to a full sized well decked pitch.

[hawk]

Milfield v Bero
1st 1-6
res 3-0
3rd 0-1
from SP

Mayf up 1-0 then great equaliser 1-1. Mayf missed a sitter then the flood gates opened.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Uni V New Lambt
1st 1-1
res 1-1
3rd 4-3

Uni much more suited to a full sized well decked pitch.

It was good match out at Uni today. Both teams has their periods of dominance, so a draw is probably a fair result. new Lambton had a penalty saved though, so will probably be thinking they could have jagged the 3 points.

[Fridge]

Suburb v Barnsley
1st 2-0
Res 0-1
3rds 5-0

[leftrightout]

Suburb v Barnsley
1st 2-0
Res 0-1
3rds 5-0

I stopped in quickly and saw a bit of the second half but it was just too cold to stay the whole time. I didn't see any goals but it looked really even contest. Barnsley had more possession but suburbs counter pretty quick.
The ground is in terrible condition, how is everyone elses holding up at the moment. I can imagine alot of teams would have very similar problems. It feels like we have just had so much rain this year!

[Jardelsimage]

table looks congested for the minor placing's in 1st grade, any predictions ????

[Beachedas]

What are the dates/days of the semi finals and grand final does anyone know?

[Nou Camp]

Suns vs Dudley
1sts 1-3
Res 1-0
3rd 1-0

[leftrightout]

Suns vs Dudley
1sts 1-3
Res 1-0
3rd 1-0

Bit of an upset in reserve grade there?

[Phoenix12]

Bit of an upset in reserve grade there?

Helped out Uni...that's for sure. (puts them 3 points in front).

[Phoenix12]

table looks congested for the minor placing's in 1st grade, any predictions ????

I think Uni are a better squad than Swansea. This weekend see's Uni against Cardiff at Cardiff...so that should be a good match.

Mayfield need to get their act together but I would put them ahead of Swansea at the end as well.

I reckon Uni / Cardiff / Mayfield in some sort of order !

Bero untouchable at the moment.... but if someone can get a win over them it will be interesting to see their reaction, (especially if it happens close to the end of the season).

[leftrightout]

I have been reading alot about ground conditions and such and have decided to do a bit of digging about to see everyones general thoughts on council facilities.
I'm interested to see what everyone thinks of the grounds in this division.
Sort of like what the A-league does, is anyone interested in listing from best to worst ground in the comp?
Much appreciated guys.
Cheers

[Roundball Enthusiast]

I have been reading alot about ground conditions and such and have decided to do a bit of digging about to see everyones general thoughts on council facilities.
I'm interested to see what everyone thinks of the grounds in this division.
Sort of like what the A-league does, is anyone interested in listing from best to worst ground in the comp?
Much appreciated guys.
Cheers

1 Uni - Obviously.
2 Dudley - Big, relatively flat, good condition for this time of the year.
3 Mayfield - Played early in the year, not sure on condition now. Good width, flat, not too long :)
4 Barnsley - Nice and flat, good width. Not much bobble. Had sand lines from new drainage. (expected).
5 New Lambton/Swansea
6 New Lambton/Swansea
7 Suns - Cricket Pitch. (Loses point for Cricket pitch)
8 Cardiff - Cricket pitch. Good size, bobbles, not much grass.
9 Garden Suburb - No grass, bobbles.
10 Beresfield - tiny, not level, bobbles, little to no grass.

[Drunken ranger]

1 Uni - Obviously.
2 Dudley - Big, relatively flat, good condition for this time of the year.
3 Mayfield - Played early in the year, not sure on condition now. Good width, flat, not too long :)
4 Barnsley - Nice and flat, good width. Not much bobble. Had sand lines from new drainage. (expected).
5 New Lambton/Swansea
6 New Lambton/Swansea
7 Suns - Cricket Pitch. (Loses point for Cricket pitch)
8 Cardiff - Cricket pitch. Good size, bobbles, not much grass.
9 Garden Suburb - No grass, bobbles.
10 Beresfield - tiny, not level, bobbles, little to no grass.
You got be kidding bero's is the best field in the comp wish I could play there every week

[The Spy]

Alder Park is horrific as well

[Phoenix12]

1 - Uni - Perfection (when you can get on it...but thats why its perfection !)
2 - Dudley - Good all weather, reasonable grass, good size, but a long way to go to get to Uni's standard.
3 - Swansea - Good all weather, reasonable grass, good size.
4 - Mayfield - Good until its been wet, good grass (unless its been wet a while), and then it gets boggy / slippery.
5 - Barnsley - Not bad...not good...bobbles....
6 - Cardiff - Grass...sometimes non existent, bobbles, cricket pitch
7 - Suns - Have not played there this year but previously...diabolical.
8 - Garden Suburb - Have not played there this season but previously... see above
9 - Alder Park - it scrapes in before Beresfield because at least there's width....but the rest is not note worthy
10 - Beresfield - It surely cant get any worse.....may as well toss a coin...(and this is after having a win their this season)

[Jardelsimage]

1 - Uni - Perfection (when you can get on it...but thats why its perfection !)
2 - Dudley - Good all weather, reasonable grass, good size, but a long way to go to get to Uni's standard.
3 - Swansea - Good all weather, reasonable grass, good size.
4 - Mayfield - Good until its been wet, good grass (unless its been wet a while), and then it gets boggy / slippery.
5 - Barnsley - Not bad...not good...bobbles....
6 - Cardiff - Grass...sometimes non existent, bobbles, cricket pitch
7 - Suns - Have not played there this year but previously...diabolical.
8 - Garden Suburb - Have not played there this season but previously... see above
9 - Alder Park - it scrapes in before Beresfield because at least there's width....but the rest is not note worthy
10 - Beresfield - It surely cant get any worse.....may as well toss a coin...(and this is after having a win their this season)

I know where this will head, :argument:

[hawk]

10 - Beresfield - It surely cant get any worse.....may as well toss a coin...(and this is after having a win their this season)

The size of Bero isnt big enough for senior football imo. Either get the dozer in, add 8-10 meters of width and a bit of length or find a nearby ground to improve.

[sammydog]

At Garden Suburb we invested in drainage over the off season. Two weeks before the season started our pitch looked like this and everyone was excited.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k316/sammydogg/Suburbs/IMG_0513.jpg

Unfortunately, the grass is a summer grass and right on queue, the grass died off down the centre of the pitch just as the season started. It had no traffic in the build up to the season, so usage wasn't the issue. Its better than previous years, but not by much. Some people thought it was council cutting the grass too short that caused the die off, but its the same grass as my back yard, which died at the same time. I think we just need a change of grass but cant get onto that until we get irrigation sorted.

[Donk]

I can't believe Barnsley is been rated so high. Thou I'm yet to play on some of the other grounds

[Shere Khan]

You should be rating grounds at season start not now as all the clubs have different work loads.
Also bare in mind that councils will pretty much always say they have lack off funds which means unless the ground is dangerous the only upgrades are from the club itself or grants.
Nnswf can sit there and say all they want about needing fields upgraded but they aren't in control of those grounds.
(Won't go into the FA funding system here)

1.Uni
2.Suburbs
Swansea
Barnsley
Dudley
3 Mayfield
4 Suns
5 Cardiff
6 Bero
New Lambton

[Phoenix12]

The size of Bero isnt big enough for senior football imo. Either get the dozer in, add 8-10 meters of width and a bit of length or find a nearby ground to improve.

They have a very large ground right beside their main pitch........with some leveling and maintenance it would be a crap load better than the field they play on.... Unfortunately with the club facilities / kitchen etc facing the current field its easy to see why they wouldn't change..but maybe there are other factors as well ?

[The Spy]

The field that Bero play on in ZL1 at Tarro isn't too bad. Not sure why they couldn't play out here, as there's about 4 fields to choose from.

[Phoenix12]

You should be rating grounds at season start not now as all the clubs have different work loads.
Also bare in mind that councils will pretty much always say they have lack off funds which means unless the ground is dangerous the only upgrades are from the club itself or grants.
Nnswf can sit there and say all they want about needing fields upgraded but they aren't in control of those grounds.
(Won't go into the FA funding system here)

1.Uni
2.Suburbs
Swansea
Barnsley
Dudley
3 Mayfield
4 Suns
5 Cardiff
6 Bero
New Lambton

I think now is a good time to rate the fields....we have had half a season or so....all fields have been played on equally (except possibly Uni who have played night games on a different field...not sure if other clubs did this ?)
As per sammydog's post above...look at the then and now !.... And getting on Alder park or Cardiff at the start of the season is totally different to playing mid season or (ahem !) at the end of the season.

As you posted...... its about the dollars (or lack there of) available. I reckon all clubs do their best, but as a Uni player, we hear the comments from club players when they come to a pitch that's in top nic..... (In saying that Uni spent all of its pre-season training on an oval that has a cricket pitch in the middle, was rarely mowed, was uneven, patchy grass, bumpy etc etc).

[Phoenix12]

The field that Bero play on in ZL1 at Tarro isn't too bad. Not sure why they couldn't play out here, as there's about 4 fields to choose from.

Really ? That's interesting...Never played out there but is it the same club ? Do they have the facilities required for ID premier league requirements ?

[sammydog]

I think now is a good time to rate the fields....we have had half a season or so....all fields have been played on equally (except possibly Uni who have played night games on a different field...not sure if other clubs did this ?)

you posted...... its about the dollars (or lack there of) available. I reckon all clubs do their best, but as a Uni player, we hear the comments from club players when they come to a pitch that's in top nic..... (In saying that Uni spent all of its pre-season training on an oval that has a cricket pitch in the middle, was rarely mowed, was uneven, patchy grass, bumpy etc etc).

Have all grounds been played on equally? Do all clubs have juniors playing the day before, O35's and AA on friday and saturdays, women on alternate weeks or even before ZPL?

Some grounds do cop a hammering compared to others. I don't think its the sole reason our ground is the way it is, far from it, but it certainly doesn't help.

The main ground at Suburbs wasn't played or trained on at all in the offseason.

Our ZPL team trained and had trials on our top ground, that at the time was more akin to playing on lumpy concrete with big potholes. Lance Yorke was looking so good that we really babied it to ensure it was good for the season.

Unfortunately as everyone knows, the grass didn't last long.

[Frodo]

As you posted...... its about the dollars (or lack there of) available. I reckon all clubs do their best, but as a Uni player, we hear the comments from club players when they come to a pitch that's in top nic..... (In saying that Uni spent all of its pre-season training on an oval that has a cricket pitch in the middle, was rarely mowed, was uneven, patchy grass, bumpy etc etc).

Is this just a cry for everyone to tell you how good the Uni ground is? :wanker:

Sammydog has hit the nail on the head, it all depends on how much traffic each ground has to cope with. I'm sure the Uni guys are made to walk around the outside of the field to put up the nets each gameday, and the fact that it gets treated like a princess is probably why it lasts so well.

I don't think there is that much of a difference between the majority of grounds between ZL3 & ZPL, change rooms however are an entire different argument... I'm all for a bit of team bonding but having to get changed with another 11-14 guys in a broom closet can get a little bit, "oops i thought that was mine i was grabbing", if you get my drift?

[Frodo]

Can we have a list of who sells the best burgers at each canteen this season? I had an absolute cracker of a chicken burger at Mayfield when we played them, and i love the ones at home too. Haven't been to Suns yet, can't wait for the after game feed.

[namwob99]

The field that Bero play on in ZL1 at Tarro isn't too bad. Not sure why they couldn't play out here, as there's about 4 fields to choose from.
Completely different clubs mate.

[Frodo]

Completely different clubs mate.

Can the seniors go pinch the grass from one of the junior fields one night and just lay it over the old one? Have the touch lines dead on that retaining wall and slightly down the hill into the bush? Even leave a couple of trees as hazards?

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Pasadena is one of the best grounds to watch football at imo, being above the ground and plus best support in the comp by a mile

:lulzturtle:

[Phoenix12]

Is this just a cry for everyone to tell you how good the Uni ground is? :wanker:

Sammydog has hit the nail on the head, it all depends on how much traffic each ground has to cope with. I'm sure the Uni guys are made to walk around the outside of the field to put up the nets each gameday, and the fact that it gets treated like a princess is probably why it lasts so well.

I don't think there is that much of a difference between the majority of grounds between ZL3 & ZPL, change rooms however are an entire different argument... I'm all for a bit of team bonding but having to get changed with another 11-14 guys in a broom closet can get a little bit, "oops i thought that was mine i was grabbing", if you get my drift?

No cry at all....Of the three people who have actually responded to the ranking question all three rated Uni first...I responded truthfully...how about you take the time to rate the grounds and let us see? Let me guess.....

But you are right...it does get treated with kid gloves....something to do with The Jets training there, Uni IDPL, the Uni women, the ID2's and other associated comps playing there...so not too much traffic at all.

Maybe you need to read and digest what someone is saying before you post replies. I too will take the time to place a lovely little moticon...just for you :wanker:

[Frodo]

No cry at all....Of the three people who have actually responded to the ranking question all three rated Uni first...I responded truthfully...how about you take the time to rate the grounds and let us see? Let me guess.....

But you are right...it does get treated with kid gloves....something to do with The Jets training there, Uni IDPL, the Uni women, the ID2's and other associated comps playing there...so not too much traffic at all.

Maybe you need to read and digest what someone is saying before you post replies. I too will take the time to place a lovely little moticon...just for you :wanker:

That was easy, at least make me work for a reaction.:trolls:

Uni has the best pitch however no pitches have been unplayable. So my list would in all seriousness be
1 - Uni
2 - everyone else.

I could pick problems with each ground if i wanted to, but there wasn't any grounds that truly affected my football.. (i was going to type 'Quality of Football' but fell off my chair laughing at the thought..:rof:)

[Premy]

Pasadena is one of the best grounds to watch football at imo, being above the ground and plus best support in the comp by a mileThe support at Pasadena over the last few years has been quite poor.
Money comes back, couple of wins and the deros come out of hiding once again all of a sudden.

[Phoenix12]

That was easy, at least make me work for a reaction.:trolls:

Uni has the best pitch however no pitches have been unplayable. So my list would in all seriousness be
1 - Uni
2 - everyone else.

I could pick problems with each ground if i wanted to, but there wasn't any grounds that truly affected my football.. (i was going to type 'Quality of Football' but fell off my chair laughing at the thought..:rof:)

Why you would go looking for a reaction ?

Samwise isnt there to help you up that mountain.

[Phoenix12]

The support at Pasadena over the last few years has been quite poor.
Money comes back, couple of wins and the deros come out of hiding once again all of a sudden.

Certainly was a quality field of supporters when we played there ! Special in every sense of the word....

I think I saw one older lady in a Trench coat with a chihuahua poking its head out, (yee gods !), screaming at the referee about Bias when their first team was 3 goals up !

[NUGUNS]

:popcorn:

This is getting interesting.

[Phoenix12]

:popcorn:

This is getting interesting.

Depends on the quality of the opposition !

[Jardelsimage]

[QUOTE=Frodo;128293]
:argument:
Uni has the best pitch however no pitches have been unplayable. So my list would in all seriousness be
1 - Uni
2 - everyone else.

simple answer to the lot, Uni, yes number 1, why watered, manicured etc, etc by the Uni staff(basically privately owned) teams do jack shit.
everyone else council run, work done by volunteers etc, etc (publically owned)
of course Uni would be better, how would it be if they had to do there own work though, me thinks I know the answer to that one......
and as said before this was always heading for the :argument: this question comes up every couple of years and yes it always ends the same.........
you could rate anything, canteen, sheds, balls each club uses, supporters shall I go on......cheers:rof:

[Frodo]

simple answer to the lot, Uni, yes number 1, why watered, manicured etc, etc by the Uni staff(basically privately owned) teams do jack shit.
everyone else council run, work done by volunteers etc, etc (publically owned)
of course Uni would be better, how would it be if they had to do there own work though, me thinks I know the answer to that one......
and as said before this was always heading for the :argument: this question comes up every couple of years and yes it always ends the same.........
you could rate anything, canteen, sheds, balls each club uses, supporters shall I go on......cheers:rof:

Don't get me started on the ball quality this year... I've barely been groped once all season! What is this league coming too??

[Nou Camp]

Out of curiosity which clubs in this division pay players or pay their regos?

[gny]

Id assume at this level a few Regos world get paid?
Unfortunately you have to spend money to attract players if you want to go up?

[Donk]

Barnsley berro
3rds 0-3 I think
Res 1-2
1st 3-5
Pretty tough game in first berro coming from behind twice to take the win.

[Donk]

Any other results Heard the cardiff boys beat uni good win for them.

[Bulldogs 1962]

Out of curiosity which clubs in this division pay players or pay their regos?

not at Barnsley everyone pays their own rego, and everyone pays the same amount, we believe it's one of the lower ones to pay. We prefer just to have players who want to be at the club not someone who only plays because you pay them to.

[Shere Khan]

Cardiff v Uni
1-1
1-1
2-1 1sts

Heard Eagles beat Mayfield 3-2

[Donk]

Cardiff v Uni
1-1
1-1
2-1 1sts

Heard Eagles beat Mayfield 3-2

Good result for Cardiff as well move clear in 2nd

[Bulldogs 1962]

Have heard some clubs are paying ridiculous amounts to players this year, with no guarantee of promotion, why? And it's just amateur weekend stuff, at best 4th division

[hawk]

Have heard some clubs are paying ridiculous amounts to players this year, with no guarantee of promotion, why? And it's just amateur weekend stuff, at best 4th division

Alot of these clubs would match it newfm and the football isnt bad.

Yes, you would want the chance of promotion when spending bigger $

[hawk]

Any other results Heard the cardiff boys beat uni good win for them.

midfield struggle with Cardiff creating a few more chances. 2 goals in the final 10 mins made it interesting

[Bulldogs 1962]

Alot of these clubs would match it newfm and the football isnt bad.

Yes, you would want the chance of promotion when spending bigger $
I agree about quality is good and matching newfm teams, but why does that warrant payment newfm is only 3rd division park football.As the money moves down the division starting to see more clubs fold, not good for the little teams in my opinion, clubs in this grade should bea ble to attract players just for the good times and club atmosphere

[hawk]

.As the money moves down the division starting to see more clubs fold, not good for the little teams in my opinion, clubs in this grade should bea ble to attract players just for the good times and club atmosphere

thats the conundrum. You need load of club players to keep a club going as well as buyins if you are going to get serious with promotion. Remember when Kahibah and Mayfield had cracking teams in ID1's and a bit of dough they sunk pretty hard for a while when it was all over.

Ive seem teams in zl3/1d3 fold as it harder then running an AA team

[slobsy]

Mayfield Vs New Lambton @ Alder Park

3rds 0-0
Res 2-0
1st 2-3

[Nou Camp]

Suns vs suburbs
1st 9-3
Res 4-2
3rd 2-3

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Suns vs suburbs
1st 9-3
Res 4-2
3rd 2-3

9-4

Just a note. Referring decision to play this game was disgusting. Pitch was full of puddles across the park, mainly just before the 18 yard line either side, not to mention the cricket pitch, which was obviously unplayable. To the point where a shot was going to go in (for the Suns) and the ball stopped, before going in. Referees need to make a sensible decision here. It was dangerous.

[Phoenix12]

midfield struggle with Cardiff creating a few more chances. 2 goals in the final 10 mins made it interesting

It was a good day out at Cardiff.....conditions were not too bad. The cricket pitch was hellish slippery though !

Thirds was a good tussle....1 all was a fair result...Uni had a defender sent off in the second half (foul in the penalty box)...Very dubious call.... What was worse though....The young Main referee had already given a yellow...But the older linesman then had a chat with him and he then went back to the defender and gave a straight red ! I don't know if that's in the rule book !!

Reserves was a good tussle with both sides having missed opportunities...Cardiff had two one on ones with the keeper that they could not find the net with, and Uni missed several opportunities...with one header hitting the bar and being defended out. Also Uni had 3 men backing up from thirds who had had full games...so it was always going to be a struggle.
Cardiff went 1 up in the second half when a long ball was not defended strongly leading to their striker pinching it and slotting it past the keeper on the run...definitely a nice goal....the Cardiff striker was later subbed which was helped Uni as he was their danger player.
The Uni goal came from a defender gathering ther ball on the cricket pitch in the middle of the park, controlling and shooting from 35 yards out (just off the cricket pitch). He drove it and with the wind behind the ball it kept going..it was heading for the top right corner of the goal when the Cardiff keeper jumped and got hands to it but couldn't control it.....so a goal from 35 yards - and celebrations accordingly ! A draw was a fair result as both teams had chances and both teams failed to convert.

The firsts game was tough for Uni who are missing a lot of players....Cardiff showed why they are near the top with some good quality passing and backing up in the middle of the park. Uni seemed to just keep them out with a final touch or body in the way. Eventually the pressure and filed position was too much with Cardiff having a nice shot from around the 18 yard line which went in to the right of the goal, through a few Uni players. The second Cardiff goal came from their sub who received a good pass and made a lovely run down the left for a one on one with the keeper - cooly slotted for a very nice goal.

I didn't get to see the Uni goal but it must have come fairly close to full time.... Cardiff played very well and deserved the win. Uni tried hard but are lacking the quality of football required.

This weekend see's Uni V Dudley at Ray Watt...Given where the clubs are poised in thirds and reserves, and that Uni firsts need a win to stay in the top 4, it should be a good day between very equal teams !

[Phoenix12]

9-4

Just a note. Referring decision to play this game was disgusting. Pitch was full of puddles across the park, mainly just before the 18 yard line either side, not to mention the cricket pitch, which was obviously unplayable. To the point where a shot was going to go in (for the Suns) and the ball stopped, before going in. Referees need to make a sensible decision here. It was dangerous.

Did either club make complaints prior to the start of any of the games ? Not sure where this stands in the rule book (if a club makes a complaint)....I would assume that if both clubs complain that the conditions are dangerous then the referees would be obliged to cancel ? But in the end it must be the referee's call ? I wouldn't like to see players safety come second to the ref's getting their dollars for the day....

[Bon]

Did either club make complaints prior to the start of any of the games ? Not sure where this stands in the rule book (if a club makes a complaint)....I would assume that if both clubs complain that the conditions are dangerous then the referees would be obliged to cancel ? But in the end it must be the referee's call ? I wouldn't like to see players safety come second to the ref's getting their dollars for the day....

Before 1st's kicked off, the ref came in to the changeroom and asked to have a representative/coach of Suburb to come out to inspect the pitch as he was contemplating calling the game off due to safety concerns..
I'm guessing someone from Suns went out there too. The fact the game was played would suggest all parties involved had agreed it would be good enough to play on?

[leftrightout]

Barnsley berro
3rds 0-3 I think
Res 1-2
1st 3-5
Pretty tough game in first berro coming from behind twice to take the win.

Sounds like a decent effort from barnsley, i was expecting a comfortable win for bero but got told they only won it very late. I guess that is why they are on top of table, scrapping it out and winning games from difficult positions is a sign of a good team.

[Phoenix12]

If thats what has occurred then fair play to the ref...(ref coming to change room and asking the question) He did what was required. I guess after having two games played already and with limited time left in the comp for make ups it was a "we may as well play it to get it completed" scenario.

I remember playing in a Grand Final (for New Lambton Eagles) back in mid 2000's (New Lambton had all three grades in finals)...playing at Adamstown Oval....the pitch was under water !! in many spots!!...and the clubs said they didn't want to play it but the association people (who had set up their tents and trophies etc) "urged" the referees to play the games. All players were against playing...both clubs asked to postpone.

Anyway...the ground was totally un-playable! people sliding, throwing themselves into 10 metre long slide tackles...the ball stopping dead, or, skipping on the water.... you literally could not pass a ball and know what it was going to do....It was a farce. At the second half of reserves the ref's were approached (again) in regards to calling it off...with the reply that they felt it was safe...as long as everybody didn't tackle hard ! In a GRAND FINAL ! Pathetic !

Anyway....thirds and Reserves games finished....and then the clubs basically told the referees and the association that they would not be taking the field....so after all that.... they delayed it for a week !

[Bon]

If thats what has occurred then fair play to the ref...(ref coming to change room and asking the question) He did what was required. I guess after having two games played already and with limited time left in the comp for make ups it was a "we may as well play it to get it completed" scenario.

I remember playing in a Grand Final (for New Lambton Eagles) back in mid 2000's (New Lambton had all three grades in finals)...playing at Adamstown Oval....the pitch was under water !! in many spots!!...and the clubs said they didn't want to play it but the association people (who had set up their tents and trophies etc) "urged" the referees to play the games. All players were against playing...both clubs asked to postpone.

Anyway...the ground was totally un-playable! people sliding, throwing themselves into 10 metre long slide tackles...the ball stopping dead, or, skipping on the water.... you literally could not pass a ball and know what it was going to do....It was a farce. At the second half of reserves the ref's were approached (again) in regards to calling it off...with the reply that they felt it was safe...as long as everybody didn't tackle hard ! In a GRAND FINAL ! Pathetic !

Anyway....thirds and Reserves games finished....and then the clubs basically told the referees and the association that they would not be taking the field....so after all that.... they delayed it for a week !

Hahahaha hectic..

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the field was fine at all (as you said, Suns had open goal tapped in only to stop in the mud).. Just that there had been consultation and decisions made beforehand that it would go ahead..

[Phoenix12]

Its just coming down to the time of the season where playing mid week matches is a killer.... Bodies get sore and tired, injuries occur.... Games are never guaranteed with the weather lately either !

[leftrightout]

Its just coming down to the time of the season where playing mid week matches is a killer.... Bodies get sore and tired, injuries occur.... Games are never guaranteed with the weather lately either !

With the weather, like you said, and condition of most grounds its really not taking much rain to make them really wet. Even with a week of dry weather most grounds are a friday night or saturday morning shower away from being close to unplayable in sections and those with cricket pitches tend to be the worst for it.

[Donk]

Sounds like a decent effort from barnsley, i was expecting a comfortable win for bero but got told they only won it very late. I guess that is why they are on top of table, scrapping it out and winning games from difficult positions is a sign of a good team.

Was great effort from Barnsley to compete with berro. Think Danny Burt won the game for them he didn't let them give up and didn't shut up whole game telling his boys they had goals and a win in them..

[Phoenix12]

Just noted in Pulse that Barnsley / Mayfield still have a catch up game...is that correct ? If so when is it being played ?

Cheers

[Shere Khan]

Phoenix 12
SP says 28/7 for 1st and Res 30/7 for 3rds

[BUSSC]

Phoenix 12
SP says 28/7 for 1st and Res 30/7 for 3rds

Thats' right, games are next week after a few attempts being washed out.

[Nou Camp]

9-4

Just a note. Referring decision to play this game was disgusting. Pitch was full of puddles across the park, mainly just before the 18 yard line either side, not to mention the cricket pitch, which was obviously unplayable. To the point where a shot was going to go in (for the Suns) and the ball stopped, before going in. Referees need to make a sensible decision here. It was dangerous.

Wasn't the game 9-3??
Everyone I've spoken to said 9-3
Not a big issue
Just curious

[Donk]

Wasn't the game 9-3??
Everyone I've spoken to said 9-3
Not a big issue
Just curious

SP says 9-3

[NWM]

9-4

Just a note. Referring decision to play this game was disgusting. Pitch was full of puddles across the park, mainly just before the 18 yard line either side, not to mention the cricket pitch, which was obviously unplayable. To the point where a shot was going to go in (for the Suns) and the ball stopped, before going in. Referees need to make a sensible decision here. It was dangerous.

It was 9-3, and like soo many have stated both parties were spoken to and the rules of the law laid down by Father(The Ref). It was an entertaining game and no one got hurt/injured from the conditions, both teams played clean and fair.

[Retro Jet]

It was 9-3, and like soo many have stated both parties were spoken to and the rules of the law laid down by Father(The Ref). It was an entertaining game and no one got hurt/injured from the conditions, both teams played clean and fair.

Was this 'Father' one CB? (Bon 'll know who I'm referring to)
If so, one I certainly have a lot of time for. Spades are spades....

[outsider]

Was this 'Father' one CB? (Bon 'll know who I'm referring to)
If so, one I certainly have a lot of time for. Spades are spades....

Is there any other

[NWM]

Was this 'Father' one CB? (Bon 'll know who I'm referring to)
If so, one I certainly have a lot of time for. Spades are spades....

Well he's a Father of the Anglican Church at Adamstown if my memory serves correct.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Barnsley have postponed their fixture v New Lambton today.

[leftrightout]

Barnsley have postponed their fixture v New Lambton today.

Mayfield also off. Grounds obviously struggling with the terrible weather we have had this year.

[Bulldogs 1962]

Mayfield also off. Grounds obviously struggling with the terrible weather we have had this year.

That's it, just with the hammering the ovals have taken this year with weather, strugglingn now to get on them

[Nou Camp]

Suns beat Swansea in 1sts 1-0
Unsure of other grades

[Hotline]

Uni vs Dudley
1st 3-1
Res 1-4
3rd 5-1

[Premy]

Suns beat Swansea in 1sts 1-0
Unsure of other grades

Swansea V Suns
3rd 3-2
Res 3-0

[Premy]

Suburb V Berro
3rds 2-0
Res 2-0
1st 1-5

[Premy]

I try not to get into berating referees as I appreciate the time and work they put in to allow us to play Football every week, however I'm sure that they appreciate the financial compensation they receive for their time.

That being said, would the referees association like to consider covering my medical bills, if you allow a bloke to continually kick the shit out of people guess what his going to continue to kick the shit out of people. Referees in my opinion have the responsibility of protecting the players on the park and when a repeat offender is continually allowed to offend with no punishment it will generally lead to players getting injured.

So I would just like to say to the Ref and the Berro CB a big thankyou for not being able to walk today.

[ForeverRed]

The person in question played over the top of the ball on 3 seperate occasions, one challenge in particular was extremely poor but the ref was a little intimidated by the said player and showed he had no balls to card him, nothing but cheap shots which really weren't warranted considering the scoreline

[hawk]

You didnt even up the ledger? Sounds like you would have escaped any caution.

[ForeverRed]

2 wrongs don't make a right

[hawk]

2 wrongs don't make a right

If you dont you'll keep copping it as happened. youll learn

[pv4]

I try not to get into berating referees as I appreciate the time and work they put in to allow us to play Football every week, however I'm sure that they appreciate the financial compensation they receive for their time.

That being said, would the referees association like to consider covering my medical bills, if you allow a bloke to continually kick the shit out of people guess what his going to continue to kick the shit out of people. Referees in my opinion have the responsibility of protecting the players on the park and when a repeat offender is continually allowed to offend with no punishment it will generally lead to players getting injured.

So I would just like to say to the Ref and the Berro CB a big thankyou for not being able to walk today.

What were you doing that high up the field mate? You'll get nosebleeds up there!

[Bon]

What were you doing that high up the field mate? You'll get nosebleeds up there!

Should have had nosebleeds, got shin-bleeds instead..

[Premy]

You didnt even up the ledger? Sounds like you would have escaped any caution.Sure I've given a few loose challenges over the years but I will never go on to the football field to deliberately hurt the opposition.

In my opinion it's not in the spirit of the game, I'm all for a hard tough game but you still need to respect the opposition. At the end of the day we play park football and blokes still need to work and make a living. It's the referees responsibility to protect players and they can protect players by using the rules of the game yet some referees choose to ignore their responsibility but still collect their paycheck

[Premy]

What were you doing that high up the field mate? You'll get nosebleeds up there!

I was attempting to imitate a midfielder

[pv4]

I was attempting to imitate a midfielder

Whoever the opposition was probably saw the Caravella-lookalike and thought he'd kick him good before he started spinning in circles on the spot, amirite.

[Bon]

Whoever the opposition was probably saw the Caravella-lookalike and thought he'd kick him good before he started spinning in circles on the spot, amirite.

:lulzturtle:

[Mitchy]

Beresfield Premiers, still undefeated yew boys :)

[Phoenix12]

Beresfield Premiers, still undefeated yew boys :)

My prediction... (not really worth much though !)

Beresfield will lose to Cardiff (round 17). Might not mean much at that point re Minor premiership...but it will dent the armor going into the finals.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Beresfield Premiers, still undefeated yew boys :)

Congratulations on staying in Zone Premier for the 2015-2016 season, due to that thing you call a football field. :thumbsup:

[Donk]

Congratulations on staying in Zone Premier for the 2015-2016 season, due to that thing you call a football field. :thumbsup:

Pretty sure they have been in newfm before on the thing they call a football field..

[Phoenix12]

Granted its not much of a football field...but credit where credits due...they have beaten plenty of sides away from home.

But the worst thing is........given the home and away nature of our finals - guess where all finals teams will have to play !!! (Yep you guessed it...Bero !):deadhorse:

[NewyTy]

Heard a whisper that Northern want a 12-team New-FM and Bero got a mention. Not at all a solid rumour but it seems they are looking at the option. I don't like the current New-FM system with the draw, an extra team would be good. Be hard to get the requirements for all the grades though. I think the promotion of the three former ZPL teams this year has worked a treat and added some depth to New-FM.

[Premy]

Heard a whisper that Northern want a 12-team New-FM and Bero got a mention. Not at all a solid rumour but it seems they are looking at the option. I don't like the current New-FM system with the draw, an extra team would be good. Be hard to get the requirements for all the grades though. I think the promotion of the three former ZPL teams this year has worked a treat and added some depth to New-FM.
Bero wouldn't fit the criteria.

To be in NPL or NewFM you need to be associated with a Junior Club. Surely Swansea or Morisset would be better than Bero considering they were the other Clubs that were floated around last time NewFM expansion happened.

[NewyTy]

Bero wouldn't fit the criteria.

To be in NPL or NewFM you need to be associated with a Junior Club. Surely Swansea or Morisset would be better than Bero considering they were the other Clubs that were floated around last time NewFM expansion happened.

Also heard from same source that Northern want another Macquarie team in New-FM and Morisset were that team. Would be strange to see Morisset go from ZL1 to New-FM. I'm not sure what their ground's like out there though.

[Premy]

Also heard from same source that Northern want another Macquarie team in New-FM and Morisset were that team. Would be strange to see Morisset go from ZL1 to New-FM. I'm not sure what their ground's like out there though.
My bet would be Swansea as they have one of the biggest junior clubs in Macquarie based on numbers.

Morisset's Fields aren't the worst nor are they really good, the ground at Dora Creek where the Seniors play is shared with the RL and its built on a Swamp so a bit of rain and it's washed out. The Juniors is as flat as a pre-schools sand pit and not fully enclosed by a fence.

Swanseas ground also is not enclosed but I've been told they had plans to do what Kahibah have done with the temporary fencing.

[Thomas477]

Swansea entering NEWFM would be interesting given belswans is around too.

If it can be any ZPL club, I reckon New Lambton could be in with a shout if they could enclose Alder Park.

[Donk]

Mayfield Barnsley catch up
Res 0-2
1st 2-0
Refs got mayfield's man of the match with 2 goals

[Charman]

Swansea entering NEWFM would be interesting given belswans is around too.

If it can be any ZPL club, I reckon New Lambton could be in with a shout if they could enclose Alder Park.

Dudley redhead would be a prime candidate. Oh, wait, seniors and juniors dont get along. Sorry, my bad!

[hawk]

Granted its not much of a football field...but credit where credits due...they have beaten plenty of sides away from home.

But the worst thing is........given the home and away nature of our finals - guess where all finals teams will have to play !!! (Yep you guessed it...Bero !):deadhorse:

Really makes a home ground a fortress. Surely they didnt play Newfm on micropitch

[slobsy]

Really makes a home ground a fortress. Surely they didnt play Newfm on micropitch

I'm pretty sure they did

[Donk]

Really makes a home ground a fortress. Surely they didnt play Newfm on micropitch
Article from SP they were in newfm but relegated in 2010 cos field didn't met criteria. It goes on to say they trying do up other field if they can get grants, so guess only time will see if that goes well they might if not this yr next if they can keep players
http://www.maitlandmercury.com.au/story/1901340/true-aims-to-return-beresfield-united-to-the-top/?cs=172

[Frodo]

Morisset are currently renovating Auston Oval, the one on the main St at Morisset, so i'm guessing they could be looking at upgrading that Oval to NewFM requirements.

[Phoenix12]

Article from SP they were in newfm but relegated in 2010 cos field didn't met criteria. It goes on to say they trying do up other field if they can get grants, so guess only time will see if that goes well they might if not this yr next if they can keep players
http://www.maitlandmercury.com.au/story/1901340/true-aims-to-return-beresfield-united-to-the-top/?cs=172

Fair dinkum...if they couldn't do it in 5 years I doubt they have a chance now (not sure what the prize pool is for winning the comp but dont think if its enough for that !!)

The best part of the article...."Part of the problem has been the "miniscule dimensions" of Beresfield’s Pasadena Oval pitch, and the club will be seeking to rebuild facilities and floodlights on a larger adjacent surface"

Ha ! Miniscule dimensions...what a crack up !

[ForeverRed]

Bero have been denied promotion, confirmed

[Bon]

Morisset are currently renovating Auston Oval, the one on the main St at Morisset, so i'm guessing they could be looking at upgrading that Oval to NewFM requirements.

Yeah..
New changerooms, grandstand, fencing, lighting (i think) is all being planned/worked on now.. I know Mo-town will be pushing for the promotion to NewFM..

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Yeah..
New changerooms, grandstand, fencing, lighting (i think) is all being planned/worked on now.. I know Mo-town will be pushing for the promotion to NewFM..

Bon back to his roots at Motown in NewFM? Latest rumour, just heard it now :lol:

[Frodo]

Bon back to his roots at Motown in NewFM? Latest rumour, just heard it now :lol:

I'm tipping him for a big season in O/35s next year.:rof:

Might even get his wish to play up front and go glory hunting!

[Premy]

Article from SP they were in newfm but relegated in 2010 cos field didn't met criteria. It goes on to say they trying do up other field if they can get grants, so guess only time will see if that goes well they might if not this yr next if they can keep players
http://www.maitlandmercury.com.au/story/1901340/true-aims-to-return-beresfield-united-to-the-top/?cs=172
That's all well and good but they still fail to meet the fact they are not associated with a Junior Club. They could have the best facilities in the Hunter but whilst they continue to ignore the major point for being dropped from NewFM they won't be going anywhere.

[The Spy]

I think it'll be better if they drop West Wallsend (or Cessnock) down to ZPL to make New-FM a 10 team comp the same as every other division in Newcastle. You'd just have to adjust the promotion/relegation accordingly to get that final team in ZL3 this year, who were only a 9 team comp.

Eg Suburbs and Barnsley down to ZL1 allowing Morriset promotion, Westlakes down to ZL2 and Tenambit to ZL3.

[Premy]

I think it'll be better if they drop West Wallsend (or Cessnock) down to ZPL to make New-FM a 10 team comp the same as every other division in Newcastle. You'd just have to adjust the promotion/relegation accordingly to get that final team in ZL3 this year, who were only a 9 team comp.

Eg Suburbs and Barnsley down to ZL1 allowing Morriset promotion, Westlakes down to ZL2 and Tenambit to ZL3.
That would be the logical thing to do, however it would be unjust from Northern to move the post once the game started.
something like that should be announced at the beginning of a new season not at the end of one about to finish.

[Mitchy]

Wonder if they will promote a team that didn't come first again

[Ker-Plunk]

wat junior club westy associated with ?

[Donk]

That's all well and good but they still fail to meet the fact they are not associated with a Junior Club. They could have the best facilities in the Hunter but whilst they continue to ignore the major point for being dropped from NewFM they won't be going anywhere.

Totally agree.. Though my point was purely at the fact that they had been there before with that ground.

[Frodo]

wat junior club westy associated with ?

I'm not sure if it was your intention or not, but that is the most 'Westy' way to ask that question?:rof:

That said, i don't know the answer to your question so i'll just see myself out of this part of the conversation.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

That's all well and good but they still fail to meet the fact they are not associated with a Junior Club. They could have the best facilities in the Hunter but whilst they continue to ignore the major point for being dropped from NewFM they won't be going anywhere.

Promotion criteria does not state that you must be associated with a junior club.
You just have to meet the criteria for the levels required for the NEWFM league.
Bero wont get promoted because of their ground though, obviously.

[NewyTy]

Westy do have some junior teams but not as many as some of the New-FM clubs. Sounds like Morisset could be an option for a year or two. I'm against the idea of dropping Westy or Cessnock down as it does no good to either of those clubs. Both teams are looking at aspirations for the future and both deserve a chance at stability in the New-FM comp.

[leftrightout]

Westy do have some junior teams but not as many as some of the New-FM clubs. Sounds like Morisset could be an option for a year or two. I'm against the idea of dropping Westy or Cessnock down as it does no good to either of those clubs. Both teams are looking at aspirations for the future and both deserve a chance at stability in the New-FM comp.

Westy are not associated with any junior club. West Wallsend Jnrs are a separate club and have no relationship with the seniors. They only have about 4 teams that aren't U6, 7's or O35s.
So i don't know how Westy are there

[NewyTy]

Westy are not associated with any junior club. West Wallsend Jnrs are a separate club and have no relationship with the seniors. They only have about 4 teams that aren't U6, 7's or O35s.
So i don't know how Westy are there

Apologies. Saw it was the same logo but didn't know it was separate entity. I've been told by one of their lower grade New-FM players that the mood there isn't that good and a fair few might move on after this season.

[LongSufferingFan]

Westy are not associated with any junior club. West Wallsend Jnrs are a separate club and have no relationship with the seniors. They only have about 4 teams that aren't U6, 7's or O35s.
So i don't know how Westy are there

The rules around having an affiliated junior club are pretty loose. I can think of NPL clubs that don't have a junior base under the same Board/Governance - Charlestown is a good example, they split with their junior club last year. Edgeworth have nothing to do with their junior club either as far as I am aware. Lake Macquarie City is a NewFM club with no direct relationship with a junior Club - they have an affiliation with Lake Macquarie FC but under a different Board/Governance.

My understanding is that Westy are loosely affiliated with both Westy Juniors and Barnsley who have quite a strong junior base.
So you can't justify relegating Westy based on juniors.

[The Majestic Swan]

Well Big Game ahead this weekend down by the shores of Swansea.....The mighty Swans shall be taking on those grubs from Garden Suburbs....I hope their goalkeeper has been practising picking the ball out of the back of the net, because that is the only thing he will be doing all day, apart from being served some banter from the other local swans...
I shall be down there flapping about giving that bunch of grubby suburbinites what for.....
BRING ON GAME DAY........

[Premy]

Well Big Game ahead this weekend down by the shores of Swansea.....The mighty Swans shall be taking on those grubs from Garden Suburbs....I hope their goalkeeper has been practising picking the ball out of the back of the net, because that is the only thing he will be doing all day, apart from being served some banter from the other local swans...
I shall be down there flapping about giving that bunch of grubby suburbinites what for.....
BRING ON GAME DAY........
That salt air getting you on the other side of the bridge Swany?

There's already one Flying Feathered creature that drops a bit of humor on here, cudos for the originallity don't let Sancho catch you taking his gig.

Just be sure that the beer is cold back at the pub for when we come to have celebratory drinks.

[hawk]

The rules around having an affiliated junior club are pretty loose. I can think of NPL clubs that don't have a junior base under the same Board/Governance - Charlestown is a good example, they split with their junior club last year. Edgeworth have nothing to do with their junior club either as far as I am aware. Lake Macquarie City is a NewFM club with no direct relationship with a junior Club - they have an affiliation with Lake Macquarie FC but under a different Board/Governance.

My understanding is that Westy are loosely affiliated with both Westy Juniors and Barnsley who have quite a strong junior base.
So you can't justify relegating Westy based on juniors.

New Lambton Eagles dont have any.

[Thomas477]

New Lambton Eagles dont have any.

But their relationship with their juniors appears to be strongly improving.

[sammydog]

What is it, two clubs in the ZPL with direct links to juniors?

- Swansea
- Garden Suburb

With New Lambton apparently close to having ties with the junior club.

[evolution]

Lake Macquarie City is a NewFM club with no direct relationship with a junior Club - they have an affiliation with Lake Macquarie FC but under a different Board/Governance

Yep, I played for Lake Macquarie juniors for nearly 20 years, two completely different clubs but after City were relegated for not meeting the requirements they formed what they called an "alliance" with the junior club to appease Northern. I left the club a couple of years ago but it seemed only City were gaining anything from the arrangement.

On a similar note I've heard that Cardiff City want to merge with Cardiff juniors but they can't reach an agreement. Probably just a matter of time though.

[Thomas477]

What is it, two clubs in the ZPL with direct links to juniors?

- Swansea
- Garden Suburb

With New Lambton apparently close to having ties with the junior club.

Only thing about Suburbs is their president is a bit dodgy and the captain of 1st grade is too tall.

[sammydog]

I'm tipping him for a big season in O/35s next year.:rof:

Might even get his wish to play up front and go glory hunting!

Bon won't be leaving the Kingfishers when he goes O35's.

Already got the Jersey ready for him.

[hawk]

On a similar note I've heard that Cardiff City want to merge with Cardiff juniors but they can't reach an agreement. Probably just a matter of time though.

looks to be out of favour now

[evolution]

looks to be out of favour now

Any idea why? The sticking points I heard were that that dressing sheds weren't big enough for City and that the junior club weren't really going to benefit from it.

[Donk]

What is it, two clubs in the ZPL with direct links to juniors?

- Swansea
- Garden Suburb

With New Lambton apparently close to having ties with the junior club.
I believe Barnsley is trying to be more and more associated with juniors

[Premy]

So what are the Clubs in NewFM that are associated with a Junior Club?

If I was on a board for a Junior Club I to would be reluctant to merge with a Senior Club. What Junior Club would want to see it's kids Rego going to pay former hacks and a bunch of never was to play weekend Football?

[Phoenix12]

Going to be a tight race for Minor premierships in Reserves and thirds....

Looks like Dudley / Bero / Mayfield / Uni all strong chances with 9 points on offer over these last weeks.

[Beachedas]

Westy do have some junior teams but not as many as some of the New-FM clubs. Sounds like Morisset could be an option for a year or two. I'm against the idea of dropping Westy or Cessnock down as it does no good to either of those clubs. Both teams are looking at aspirations for the future and both deserve a chance at stability in the New-FM comp.


NewyTy big fan of what you are doing for local football and all the work you put in, however in this instance I think you are completely off the mark, if Westy or Cessnock finish last they should be dropped, they shouldn't be kept up just because it would be no good for them. All our competitions should be built on promotion and relegation not just relegation from and promotion to NPL. Last year New Lambton Eagles finished 1st in ZPL I believe they should have been promoted and not the teams that finished 3rd, 4th & 9th I know they have all done well since they have gone up and that this was due to facilities etc but really it should come down to the team you can put on the park not the cash or facilities you can provide, but just my opinion.

[NUGUNS]

Going to be a tight race for Minor premierships in Reserves and thirds....

Looks like Dudley / Bero / Mayfield / Uni all strong chances with 9 points on offer over these last weeks.

Dudley are going to have to pick their form up as they play Bero and Mayfield.

Bero lost to a 10 man Suburbs on the weekend with them playing Cardiff, New Lambton and Dudley with all three sides in finals contention in their run home.

In thirds the only teams certain to have qualified for the finals are Uni and Bero.

Dudley, Suburbs, Mayfield, Cardiff and New Lambton can all still fill the final two spots.

[Phoenix12]

University thirds had a very convincing win against Dudley last weekend...5 - 1 against traditionally very close rivals....especially over the last few years.

University reserves on the other hand were woeful.... their second loss (and biggest loss) of the season....they need to find form, (and the back of the oppositions net).

Of these teams I think Uni have the better run into the finals.... but I believe that any team can beat the other in this comp, and its a matter of who turns up on the day and who then takes their chances.

[Thomas477]

So what are the Clubs in NewFM that are associated with a Junior Club?

If I was on a board for a Junior Club I to would be reluctant to merge with a Senior Club. What Junior Club would want to see it's kids Rego going to pay former hacks and a bunch of never was to play weekend Football?

In NPL you have:
Magic
Jaffas (but the juniors and seniors are run separately, but they are the one club)
South Cardiff (kutgw FR)
Olympic to an extent (they have small sided teams)
Weston to an extent (as per Olympic)
Adamstown I believe
Edgy, Azzurri, Maitland don't, as far as I know.

NEWFM you have
Valo
Belswans
Kahibah
Cookers
Wallsend
Toronto, Cessnock, Lakes, Singleton, Thornton and West Wallsend aren't, as far as I know.

[The Spy]

NewyTy big fan of what you are doing for local football and all the work you put in, however in this instance I think you are completely off the mark, if Westy or Cessnock finish last they should be dropped, they shouldn't be kept up just because it would be no good for them. All our competitions should be built on promotion and relegation not just relegation from and promotion to NPL. Last year New Lambton Eagles finished 1st in ZPL I believe they should have been promoted and not the teams that finished 3rd, 4th & 9th I know they have all done well since they have gone up and that this was due to facilities etc but really it should come down to the team you can put on the park not the cash or facilities you can provide, but just my opinion.

Not to mention it was only 12 months ago (or thereabouts) that Westy was gone. And Cessnock have been in New-FM for how long now? It's not going to hurt these teams if they get dropped to ZPL because ZPL is still a reputable league and getting stronger as well.

[NewyTy]

I do personally feel as though there should be promotion/relegation between all the leagues. NPL I guess is a different story as the FFA overrule NNSWF on what can and can't be done in that comp but ZPL to New-FM should be an easier step than what it currently is. I feel like the whole rulebook needs a look at. There's not much difference between the ground Lambton have at Arthur Edden and the ground Cessnock have at Turner Park. Looking on Google Maps, it seems Swansea have done a lot of work to their field and I'll be the first to admit I don't know too much about this competition. Whoever said the thing about Belswans being too close, it'd be great to see Belswans play Swansea in a New-FM derby.

I'm meeting with Northern tomorrow and I'll be making sure I mention the Zone Leagues as I feel like the comp is overlooked a lot of the time. I'm certainly trying to learn more about the teams and all that. Knowing the New-FM like I do, I feel like Cessnock would only be made stronger if they went down. They'd fight tooth and nail to go back up. Westy though I believe would fold if they were dropped from New-FM. You can argue that but that's my personal opinion. Maybe not fold, but they certainly would lose a tonne of players and that.

A team that has yet to be mentioned is Mayfield United. Sure Mayfield Park is a ----hole (you fill in the word) but if they could form a better connection with their juniors and maybe build up Stevenson a bit, they could push for New-FM in a few year's time. I know ZPL is a fairly decent comp but if all the teams start pushing for promotion then the comp will only get stronger, year in and year out.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

In NPL you have:
Magic
Jaffas (but the juniors and seniors are run separately, but they are the one club)
South Cardiff (kutgw FR)
Olympic to an extent (they have small sided teams)
Weston to an extent (as per Olympic)
Adamstown I believe
Edgy, Azzurri, Maitland don't, as far as I know.

NEWFM you have
Valo
Belswans
Kahibah
Cookers
Wallsend
Toronto, Cessnock, Lakes, Singleton, Thornton and West Wallsend aren't, as far as I know.

I don't believe Adamstown do.

[leftrightout]

Going to be a tight race for Minor premierships in Reserves and thirds....

Looks like Dudley / Bero / Mayfield / Uni all strong chances with 9 points on offer over these last weeks.

Barnsley in there in reserve grade after picking up points against mayfield midweek. Suburbs aren't far off either.

[Thomas477]

Biggest issue with NEWFM and zpl is that one is nnsw run and the other interdistrict board ran.

[Premy]

Biggest issue with NEWFM and zpl is that one is nnsw run and the other interdistrict board ran.
Actually Newcastle & Port Stephens Football association run the Zone Leagues on behalf of the Interdistricts

[Phoenix12]

Barnsley in there in reserve grade after picking up points against mayfield midweek. Suburbs aren't far off either.

Is that on Pulse ? it has Barnsley still short 1 game.... And in 6th spot. But with three points over Mayfield it would take them to equal forth with Bero (but down on GD)

But understand what you are saying..it makes for an interesting last few weeks !

[Phoenix12]

Actually Newcastle & Port Stephens Football association run the Zone Leagues on behalf of the Interdistricts

Fair dinkum...what a shemozzle.... Its just wouldn't be Australia if we didnt have levels upon levels of bureaucracy now would it ?

[Beeen]

Only thing about Suburbs is their president is a bit dodgy and the captain of 1st grade is too tall.

Whaaaa?

[Donk]

Is that on Pulse ? it has Barnsley still short 1 game.... And in 6th spot. But with three points over Mayfield it would take them to equal forth with Bero (but down on GD)

But understand what you are saying..it makes for an interesting last few weeks !

Barnsley vs new lambton was called off last weekend which will be the game in hand think it's been played the spare weekend in august

[Donk]

In NPL you have:
Magic
Jaffas (but the juniors and seniors are run separately, but they are the one club)
South Cardiff (kutgw FR)
Olympic to an extent (they have small sided teams)
Weston to an extent (as per Olympic)
Adamstown I believe
Edgy, Azzurri, Maitland don't, as far as I know.

NEWFM you have
Valo
Belswans
Kahibah
Cookers
Wallsend
Toronto, Cessnock, Lakes, Singleton, Thornton and West Wallsend aren't, as far as I know.

Edgeworth seniors and juniors are seperate clubs but they have a very strong association.

[Thomas477]

Actually Newcastle & Port Stephens Football association run the Zone Leagues on behalf of the Interdistricts

Cheers for that Premy, didn't know that. But either way, still not ran by nnswf the same way the NEWFM and NPL is.

And Donk, I didn't know that, but it's good to hear.

[Jardelsimage]

[QUOTE=Thomas477;129640]Cheers for that Premy, didn't know that. But either way, still not ran by nnswf the same way the NEWFM and NPL is.



and thank **** for that, they couldn't run a shit fight at a sewage plant

[football_macigian23]

In NPL you have:
Magic
Jaffas (but the juniors and seniors are run separately, but they are the one club)
South Cardiff (kutgw FR)
Olympic to an extent (they have small sided teams)
Weston to an extent (as per Olympic)
Adamstown I believe
Edgy, Azzurri, Maitland don't, as far as I know.

NEWFM you have
Valo
Belswans
Kahibah
Cookers
Wallsend
Toronto, Cessnock, Lakes, Singleton, Thornton and West Wallsend aren't, as far as I know.

Magic's affiliation with the juniors isn't there.. Recently it's been non existent but it's slowly rebuilding

[slobsy]

Mayfield Barnsley catch up
Res 0-2
1st 2-0


3rd grade ended up 4-1 Mayfield

[sammydog]

Only thing about Suburbs is their president is a bit dodgy and the captain of 1st grade is too tall.
Whaaaa?

He is right with half of the statement.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

He is right with half of the statement.

Yeah, the captain inst that tall!! :lol:

[Formely In Shape Allstar]

Belswans are not associated with junior club at all they are run seperately and dont really get along....

[Nou Camp]

Suns vs uni
1st 3-0
Res 2-4
3rds 1-3

[Donk]

Barnsley Cardiff
3rds 0-3
Res 3-0
1st 1-1

[outsider]

New Lambton v Bero
1st 0-2
0-0
2-3

[hawk]

New Lambton v Bero
1st 0-2
0-0
2-3

1st was 3-0 Bero

[sancho_theswan]

Belswans are not associated with junior club at all they are run seperately and dont really get along....
Bahaha...... what do mean? Thought BelSwans get along with everyone. Heard that there is even a Swansea junior team playing at Blacksmiths tomorrow as part of the Old Boys Day.

[outsider]

1st was 3-0 Bero

oops-so it was-sorry

[hawk]

Score swans v suburb?

[Premy]

Score swans v suburb?
Swansea V Suburb

3rds 0-4
Res 0-3/4*
1st 3-1**

* Not sure if it was 0-3 or 0-4 wasn't paying attention during the warm up

** Screamer from some Caravella lookalike.

[Premy]

Dudley V Mayfield?

[Premy]

1st

Beresfield--------16---42
Swansea----------16---27
Cardiff--------------15---26
Suns-----------------16---25
Uni--------------------16---24
Mayfield------------14---24
New Lambton---15---20
Dudley---------------15---15
Garden Suburb--16---13
Barnsley------------15---2

[Premy]

Res

Uni--------------------16---32
Dudley---------------15---31
Mayfield------------14---25
Beresfeild----------16---25
Garden Suburb--16---25
Barnsley------------15---24
New Lambton----15---19
Swansea------------16---14
Cardiff----------------15---14
Suns-------------------16---13

[Premy]

3rds

Uni---------------------16---35
Beresfield----------16---33
Garden Suburb--16---26
Mayfield-------------14---24
Dudley----------------15---24
Cardiff----------------15---23
New Lambton----15---20
Suns------------------16---16
Swansea-----------16---12
Barnsley------------15---7

[Premy]

With the results from Dudley V Mayfield yet to come threw the finals run is starting to heat up in all grades.

Anyone brave enough to make some final four predictions?

Catch up games are:
Mayfield V Cardiff
Barnsley V New Lambton

[Premy]

Remaining Fixtures

Barnsley------------Dud,NLam,Suns
Beresfeild----------Car,Dud
Cardiff---------------Bers,May,NLam
Dudley---------------Barn,Bers
Garden Suburb--NLam,Uni
Mayfield------------Suns,Car,Swan
New Lambton---GSub,Barn,Car
Suns-----------------May,Barn
Swansea----------Uni,May
Uni-------------------Swan,GSub

[Premy]

1st

Beresfield--------16---42
Swansea----------16---27
Cardiff--------------15---26
Suns-----------------16---25
Uni--------------------16---24
Mayfield------------14---24
New Lambton---15---20
Dudley---------------16---18
Garden Suburb--16---13
Barnsley------------15---2

Res

Dudley--------------16---34
Uni--------------------16---32
Mayfield------------14---25
Beresfeild----------16---25
Garden Suburb--16---25
Barnsley------------15---24
New Lambton----15---19
Swansea------------16---14
Cardiff----------------15---14
Suns-------------------16---13

3rds

Uni---------------------16---35
Beresfield----------16---33
Dudley---------------16---27
Garden Suburb--16---26
Mayfield-------------14---24
Cardiff----------------15---23
New Lambton----15---20
Suns------------------16---16
Swansea-----------16---12
Barnsley------------15---7

Remaining Fixtures

Barnsley------------Dud,NLam,Suns
Beresfeild----------Car,Dud
Cardiff---------------Bers,May,NLam
Dudley---------------Barn,Bers
Garden Suburb--NLam,Uni
Mayfield------------Suns,Car,Swan
New Lambton---GSub,Barn,Car
Suns-----------------May,Barn
Swansea----------Uni,May
Uni-------------------Swan,GSub

Just for easy reading

[Premy]

Next weekend is a crucial weekend for the top 6 in 1st grade with the top 6 all playing against each other. All 3 games are potential 6 pointers.

Beresfield V Cardiff
Mayfield V Suns
Uni V Swansea

[Donk]

Next weekend is a crucial weekend for the top 6 in 1st grade with the top 6 all playing against each other. All 3 games are potential 6 pointers.

Beresfield V Cardiff
Mayfield V Suns
Uni V Swansea

Beresfield
Suns
Uni

[onlooker]

NewyTy big fan of what you are doing for local football and all the work you put in, however in this instance I think you are completely off the mark, if Westy or Cessnock finish last they should be dropped, they shouldn't be kept up just because it would be no good for them. All our competitions should be built on promotion and relegation not just relegation from and promotion to NPL. Last year New Lambton Eagles finished 1st in ZPL I believe they should have been promoted and not the teams that finished 3rd, 4th & 9th I know they have all done well since they have gone up and that this was due to facilities etc but really it should come down to the team you can put on the park not the cash or facilities you can provide, but just my opinion.

I agree with your point of the best team should go up, look at Bero this year killing it in first and currently in top 4 or two in lower grades, now are they not the team that will make newfm a stronger comp? Yes their facilities are not the best but in my opinion they should be aloud promotion. Strong competition first then fix all other areas. I'm sure Bero have plans to make changes to meet the criteria. But not promoting them wouldn't be right, once again in my opinion.

[King]

I agree with your point of the best team should go up, look at Bero this year killing it in first and currently in top 4 or two in lower grades, now are they not the team that will make newfm a stronger comp? Yes their facilities are not the best but in my opinion they should be aloud promotion. Strong competition first then fix all other areas. I'm sure Bero have plans to make changes to meet the criteria. But not promoting them wouldn't be right, once again in my opinion. Correct. You cant create a duopoly between 2 divisions. Bero should at least have a chance to go up. Facilities and criteria for grounds are loose these days. Kahibah has thrown a fence around their ground, whilst if Cooks Hill is a football ground I will give it away. Promotion breeds interest, relegation avoids complacency. I am sure Bournemouth doesnt have a ground that fits ALL of the EPL criteria but it is going to be magic seeing their 12000 fans crammed in. We get a little too precious about NPL. I think Heidelberg showed that we are some way down the pecking order toward being truly semi professional. Westlakes or Mayfield Juniors deserve a vision to go as high as they can and South Cardiff and Westy should take their medicine.

[Premy]

Correct. You cant create a duopoly between 2 divisions. Bero should at least have a chance to go up. Facilities and criteria for grounds are loose these days. Kahibah has thrown a fence around their ground, whilst if Cooks Hill is a football ground I will give it away. Promotion breeds interest, relegation avoids complacency. I am sure Bournemouth doesnt have a ground that fits ALL of the EPL criteria but it is going to be magic seeing their 12000 fans crammed in. We get a little too precious about NPL. I think Heidelberg showed that we are some way down the pecking order toward being truly semi professional. Westlakes or Mayfield Juniors deserve a vision to go as high as they can and South Cardiff and Westy should take their medicine.
The team coming 2nd in the Victorian NPL beat a mid table Northern NSW NPL team by a respectable scoreline of 3-1 and that means we are "some way down the pecking order"?
Get your head out of the clouds, what were you expecting from the FFA cup game.

Didn't the team coming last in the NNSW NPL beat the same team Heidelberg beat by the same scoreline? Does that mean Magic are down on the pecking order from Southy because of one game?

[Premy]

So anyone with the Mayfield V Dudley results

[oneeye]

So anyone with the Mayfield V Dudley results

Play today

[The Majestic Swan]

So it was a beautiful day down by the sunny shores of Swansea yesterday. Suburbs lower grades turned up to play and walked away with the points, But then we move onto the main game, where my predictions were correct. The Burbs keeper spent most of the time picking the ball out the back of the net, he even decided to play some tunnel ball by allowing the ball to dribble through his legs and into the back of the net.
On a side note its great to see Suburbs give some former sport stars a run in their sides.....Former NRL front row forward Mark O'Meley made an appearance in goals for reserve grade and also former Newcastle Jet Zenon Caravella was given run in first grade were he scored suburbs only goal of the game....

[Premy]

So it was a beautiful day down by the sunny shores of Swansea yesterday. Suburbs lower grades turned up to play and walked away with the points, But then we move onto the main game, where my predictions were correct. The Burbs keeper spent most of the time picking the ball out the back of the net, he even decided to play some tunnel ball by allowing the ball to dribble through his legs and into the back of the net.
On a side note its great to see Suburbs give some former sport stars a run in their sides.....Former NRL front row forward Mark O'Meley made an appearance in goals for reserve grade and also former Newcastle Jet Zenon Caravella was given run in first grade were he scored suburbs only goal of the game....

That it was. Top day down by the shores of old Swampea and the Guinness was delicious back at the pub, although it was a struggle getting my head through the doors.

Suburb lower grades gave their finals charge just what it needed, hopefully they can carry the momentum from the last few weeks into the finals and have a good crack.

Cheers to all from Swansea for a good day

[Premy]

Play today
My bad I read it wrong on SP, cheers

[Beeen]

Couldn't sleep at 4 o clock this mornin mate?

[Premy]

Couldn't sleep at 4 o clock this mornin mate?Early bird gets the worm
:brrr:

[gny]

Good to see gardos 1st graders getting the job done in reserve grade 👍🏻

[Premy]

Good to see gardos 1st graders getting the job done in reserve grade ����Hardly the boys have just got themselves back into form after a slump.
considering after 7 or 8 rounds they were on top.

[slobsy]

dudley vs Mayfield @ Dudley

3rds 2-1
Res 2-1
1st 2-0

[King]

The team coming 2nd in the Victorian NPL beat a mid table Northern NSW NPL team by a respectable scoreline of 3-1 and that means we are "some way down the pecking order"?
Get your head out of the clouds, what were you expecting from the FFA cup game.

Didn't the team coming last in the NNSW NPL beat the same team Heidelberg beat by the same scoreline? Does that mean Magic are down on the pecking order from Southy because of one game? You are dreaming if you think it was close. It was a different level between both teams and Heidelberg took the foot off a long way from home and a game to play in Vic Sat. As current leaders, Edgeworth would be competitive against NSW Supa League teams (2nd Div Sydney). Thats not necessarily bad just fact that this NPL, despite NNSWF size is average at best compared to Vic, NSW, SA and QLD. Prycey would confirm WA too. We need to promote a vibrant local comp and give ambitious clubs a chance to reach higher. Generate more interest thus more money thus better quality.

[Premy]

1st

Beresfield--------16---42
Swansea----------16---27
Cardiff--------------15---26
Suns-----------------16---25
Uni--------------------16---24
Mayfield------------15---24
New Lambton---15---20
Dudley---------------16---18
Garden Suburb--16---13
Barnsley------------15---2

Res

Dudley--------------16---34
Uni--------------------16---32
Mayfield------------15---25
Garden Suburb--16---25
Beresfeild----------16---25
Barnsley------------15---24
New Lambton----15---19
Swansea------------16---14
Cardiff----------------15---14
Suns-------------------16---13

3rds

Uni---------------------16---35
Beresfield----------16---33
Dudley---------------16---27
Garden Suburb--16---26
Mayfield-------------15---24
Cardiff----------------15---23
New Lambton----15---20
Suns------------------16---16
Swansea-----------16---12
Barnsley------------15---7

Remaining Fixtures

Barnsley------------Dud,NLam,Suns
Beresfeild----------Car,Dud
Cardiff---------------Bers,May,NLam
Dudley---------------Barn,Bers
Garden Suburb--NLam,Uni
Mayfield------------Suns,Car,Swan
New Lambton---GSub,Barn,Car
Suns-----------------May,Barn
Swansea----------Uni,May
Uni-------------------Swan,GSub

Updated

[pv4]

former Newcastle Jet Zenon Caravella was given run in first grade were he scored suburbs only goal of the game....

:rof:

[Bon]

Former NRL front row forward Mark O'Meley made an appearance in goals for reserve grade and also former Newcastle Jet Zenon Caravella was given run in first grade were he scored suburbs only goal of the game....

Hahahaha Brilliant..
Not wanting to inflate Premy/Zenon's head any more, but I heard it was a corker of a goal..


Good to see gardos 1st graders getting the job done in reserve grade ����

:wtf:

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Good to see gardos 1st graders getting the job done in reserve grade 👍🏻

Thanks for the compliment, I'm sure the Reserve grade boys will love being called first grade quality.

Fact is, there were zero "first grade" Garden Suburb boys in the reserves team. Garden Suburb boys turned up, Swansea didn't.

Score line should've been 6-7, if the boys didn't get complacent with their 4-0 lead.

[Beachedas]

with all the recent talk about the non-promotion from this league is there still relegation as clearly Barnsley are miles behind everyone else in the league

[NewyTy]

with all the recent talk about the non-promotion from this league is there still relegation as clearly Barnsley are miles behind everyone else in the league

From what I've heard Morisset are coming up so would have to assume Barnsley will be relegated.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

with all the recent talk about the non-promotion from this league is there still relegation as clearly Barnsley are miles behind everyone else in the league

I would think if Beresfield don't get promoted, word on the street is its already been rejected(?), then NNSW could either, promote someone from ZPL who meet the criteria to New-FM (No relegation for New-FM this year, to make it a 12 team comp next year). Then promote Morrisett who are Minor Premiers in ZL1, relegate Barnsley then continue down the leagues.

If a team from ZPL doesn't go to New-FM, then it gets messy, moving a team up from ZL1 to New-FM, promoting another team (Kotara are Club Champions in ZL1, could come up to ZPL) then relegate Barnesley.. Or not relegate anyone from ZPL at all this year.. but I doubt that would happen..

[NewyTy]

I would think if Beresfield don't get promoted, word on the street is its already been rejected(?), then NNSW could either, promote someone from ZPL who meet the criteria to New-FM (No relegation for New-FM this year, to make it a 12 team comp next year). Then promote Morrisett who are Minor Premiers in ZL1, relegate Barnesley then continue down the leagues.

If a team from ZPL doesn't go to New-FM, then it gets messy, moving a team up from ZL1 to New-FM, promoting another team (Kotara are Club Champions in ZL1, could come up to ZPL) then relegate Barnesley.. Or not relegate anyone from ZPL at all this year.. but I doubt that would happen..

I was told by Northern last week that there would be no promotion from ZPL to NewFM this season. They didn't say anything else. They might relegate a NewFM team to make it 10 teams but no idea.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

I was told by Northern last week that there would be no promotion from ZPL to NewFM this season. They didn't say anything else. They might relegate a NewFM team to make it 10 teams but no idea.

Then they would have to relegate two teams from ZPL to ZL1, if Morrisett do come up, which I would expect they would..

That would mean Garden Suburb go down, being second last on the ladder. I doubt they'd move New-FM from 11 teams to 10, then make ZPL an 11 team comp.

[Bon]

Then they would have to relegate two teams from ZPL to ZL1, if Morisset do come up, which I would expect they would..

That would mean Garden Suburb go down, being second last on the ladder. I doubt they'd move New-FM from 11 teams to 10, then make ZPL an 11 team comp.

No promotion from ZPL, but perhaps a promotion from ZPL1?? As have said previously, I know Mo-town are doing all they can to get their facilities/ground up to match their on-field results, in an attempt to get to NEWFM asap..

[Roundball Enthusiast]

No promotion from ZPL, but perhaps a promotion from ZPL1?? As have said previously, I know Mo-town are doing all they can to get their facilities/ground up to match their on-field results, in an attempt to get to NEWFM asap..

Yeah I've taken that into consideration above. Just going through the options, which are all pure speculation, other than NewyTy confirming no team from ZPL will be promoted.

Morri to New-FM. No relegation from New-FM to make it 12 teams.
2nd place ZL1 / Club Champions ZL1 promoted to ZPL.
Barnsley relegated to ZL1 / No relegation in ZPL. (therefor no other promotion from ZL1, as per above)

Then normal prototion/relegation in the lower leagues.

[leftrightout]

Is it really fair to relegate last in ZPL for the team that comes 2nd in the grade below if for some reason Morri do go to NEWFM?
I mean, last does deserve to be relegated but is that cancelled out by the fact that 2nd place doesn't deserve promotion?

[The Spy]

This is Newcastle football, anything could happen....

[Phoenix12]

This is Newcastle football, anything could happen....

My favorite word............."Shemozzle" !

[Frodo]

I would assume that they will wait until the winner from ZPL is ready to step up, and then promote the winner from every grade below without any relegation.
That way they have a 12 team NewFM and stick to even teams in the Zone leagues. If a team can't move up from the lower grades either take 2nd place up or have a season with a bye until someone is ready.
I wouldn't be suprised if Morri just go up to ZPL next year and wait to earn NewFM promotion. Which they look like they could do, they have a very strong team this year without a couple key players for the season.

[MonkeyKplunk]

Given the uneven competitions in NewFM and then right down the bottom in ZF3, I would assume there would be a few weird movements to try and even all of the competitions up.
That and in every competition except NewFM there has been a weird gap where some teams are just out of touch with the rest in the league.
Barnsley in ZPL, Westlakes in ZF1, Kuuri, Mussy, Tenambit in ZF2 and then the domination of Wallsend, New Lambton and Dudley in ZF3

Only issue will always be that one of having to field 3 teams instead of 2 once you move from ZF2 to ZF1.
Player retention is a bitch

[Frodo]

Given the uneven competitions in NewFM and then right down the bottom in ZF3, I would assume there would be a few weird movements to try and even all of the competitions up.
That and in every competition except NewFM there has been a weird gap where some teams are just out of touch with the rest in the league.
Barnsley in ZPL, Westlakes in ZF1, Kuuri, Mussy, Tenambit in ZF2 and then the domination of Wallsend, New Lambton and Dudley in ZF3

Only issue will always be that one of having to field 3 teams instead of 2 once you move from ZF2 to ZF1.
Player retention is a bitch

Convincing a reasonable A/A team to join your 2 team squad shouldn't be that hard. Try to get as many kids coming out of your junior football teams to join them and that would be competitive with most ZP1 3rd grade teams.

[Fridge]

Just reading all this promotion and relegation talk I will throw in my input. From conversations with the ZPL bossman and NNSW I have had (as a club official) over the past 10 years or so there will never be any promotion or relegation between the elite NNSW comps & the ZPL competitions. The only way any club can get into the NNSW competitions is via application which is how Kahibah, Cooks Hill & Wallsend got into the NEWFM comp. All ZPL & junior clubs were emailed by NNSW asking for expressions of interest to enter the NEWFM comp last year. As for relegation from NNSW comps if a club is punted from the NNSW comps if they wish to enter the ZPL comps they must apply as all ZPL clubs have to do each season. So as for all this talk re Bero or Morri going to NEWFM will only happen it they apply and they are accepted. Until all ZPL teams meet criteria set by NNSW for their competitions i can't see any promotion or relegation between the comps in the near future.

[MonkeyKplunk]

That's been our major problem in Mussy for years unfortunately. This year has just been a very down year for the whole club. Hopefully a couple of the Juniors can make the semi's and help us save some face.

We had player losses due to movements/injury/work/whatever, so the average age for the entire 1st/Ressie squad was only about 23.
35's couldn't field a whole team all season, and the next closest age group is U15's.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Just reading all this promotion and relegation talk I will throw in my input. From conversations with the ZPL bossman and NNSW I have had (as a club official) over the past 10 years or so there will never be any promotion or relegation between the elite NNSW comps & the ZPL competitions. The only way any club can get into the NNSW competitions is via application which is how Kahibah, Cooks Hill & Wallsend got into the NEWFM comp. All ZPL & junior clubs were emailed by NNSW asking for expressions of interest to enter the NEWFM comp last year. As for relegation from NNSW comps if a club is punted from the NNSW comps if they wish to enter the ZPL comps they must apply as all ZPL clubs have to do each season. So as for all this talk re Bero or Morri going to NEWFM will only happen it they apply and they are accepted. Until all ZPL teams meet criteria set by NNSW for their competitions i can't see any promotion or relegation between the comps in the near future.

This is exactly it. There is no promotion or relegation between NEWFM and ZPL and there never has been. Teams have joined NEWFM from the ZPL competition, but it hasn't been based on results, it is based on an application process so the term promotion is incorrect.

[Jardelsimage]

we could all start by updating the pulse website with scores, getting that right might lead to bigger and better things..........

As said earlier if you haven't applied you wont go up, simple as that, but then again it is Northern we are talking about....

[Phoenix12]

Obviously the application doesn't take into account the quality of the playing surface then.....:rof: Surprising...as its probably the most important detail....