2019 National Premier League thread

[Bremsstrahlung]

BK ato Jaffas

[Alton]

BK ato Jaffas

Would've thought he would return to Magic

[Local Rules]

Would've thought he would return to Magic

What happens to Swancott. Don't think he would be happy playing 20's

[Aegon]

** A rumour doing the rounds for longer is that Broadmeadow coach Ruben Zadkovich may pick up a coaching role in the A-League, potentially with former club Sydney FC.

The former Jets skipper and Socceroo is in his third season as coach of Broadmeadow, who he took to the round of 16 in the FFA Cup and NPL grand final victory last year. He played 41 games for Sydney from 2006 to 2008

From the Herald

How do Magic supporters feel about this. He seems to be a very polarising figure, I know several people who have left the club saying he’s not right for the club, yet others I know love him?

[Barry Dawson]

Isn't the plan for NPL clubs to keep these journeymen in the new 'Reserves' from 2020 - so they can volunteer on the BBQ and pack up after first grade?
Wasn't that the proposition put before NNSW? Clubman kept in the club? Imagine Swancott, McBreen and the likes doing ground duties?
NNSW have been hoodwinked i'd say.
The plundering of NEWFM clubs to bolster the depth of senior NPL squads has already begun.
Watch the flow of 18/19 year olds into NEWFM from NPL teams not interested in development.

[Aegon]

Jaffas announcement

WELCOME B.K.

The club can confirm that former Jets and Mariners shot-stopper, Ben Kennedy, has joined the Jaffas for the remainder of this season and beyond.
The 32-year-old Novocastrian has been training with the club since his contract with the Central Coast Mariners finished at the end of May.
Kennedy enters the club in the second window for recruiting and will form a formidable partnership with the current custodian, Brad Swancott.
Swanie, 39, has been outstanding this season conceding just 14 goals from his 14 appearances.
Coach James Pascoe thinks that Kennedy will bring a lot to the table.
"In signing B.K. we've bought in a great guy who is in his absolute prime as a keeper," Pascoe said last night.
"He brings with him over 10 years of experience as a professional footballer.''
Kennedy said he was ready to move on from professional football after 159 A-League games over 13 seasons.
"Swanny wants to finish the season and we've spoken to Jimmy about it," Kennedy said.
"We will look at spreading some matches between us.
"Signing wasn't about me coming straight in this year - It is a much longer-term situation.
"Swanny is playing great at the moment and he has three clean sheets in a row.
"I'm just looking to come in and maybe play a couple of games and look more toward next season."

Swancott at 39 might have planned to stop playing NPL soon, if not, then I assume the club is beginning a transition plan.

[magician]

Swancott at 39 might have planned to stop playing NPL soon, if not, then I assume the club is beginning a transition plan.

Apparently he only played this year is cause they couldn’t find a suitable replacement

[Aegon]

Apparently he only played this year is cause they couldn’t find a suitable replacement

Respect to him if that is the case, I dunno how he's doing it at 39.

[cobra23]

Respect to him if that is the case, I dunno how he's doing it at 39.

he is a keeper,
39 is still young

[Aegon]

he is a keeper,
39 is still young

Close to my age. With kids, family, work & all the other priorities that come with it. Managing to train and play at that level is still a big commitment with little reward.

[magician]

Jaffas vs maitland OFF

[Hurricane]

Jaffas vs maitland OFF

Heaps of rain in the last 2 days ☔☔

[Goatscheese]

Heaps of rain in the last 2 days ☔☔

Indeed amazing at how poor Arthur Edden's drainage is wen Jaffas are missing a few 1st grade players for a must win finals hope game.

[fozphantom]

edgie up 2-0 v Fakes so far

[football]

Indeed amazing at how poor Arthur Edden's drainage is wen Jaffas are missing a few 1st grade players for a must win finals hope game.

How can this be policed?

[magician]

How can this be policed?
Might work against them as maitland we’re without some handy players aswel

[Goatscheese]

How can this be policed?

It can't unless Northern wants to send a pitch inspector down to look at the ground and make a final decision

[Johnno]

It can't unless Northern wants to send a pitch inspector down to look at the ground and make a final decision

That’s happened before happened at Maitland maybe last year or year before after they called off games suspiciously and also Charlestown when previous Administration were there.

[Stanley]

That’s happened before happened at Maitland maybe last year or year before after they called off games suspiciously and also Charlestown when previous Administration were there.

Olympic also called off games a couple of weeks ago after very little rain, admittedly it did go on to rain for most of the day

[Stanley]

Olympic also called off games a couple of weeks ago after very little rain, admittedly it did go on to rain for most of the day

after an FFA Cup exit and poor results the timing probably saved M'Guinness's job, his job is still not safe I reckon.

[Alton]

after an FFA Cup exit and poor results the timing probably saved M'Guinness's job, his job is still not safe I reckon.

Calling games off at Olympic atm is delaying the inevitable decision on a new coach.

[Hurricane]

Calling games off at Olympic atm is delaying the inevitable decision on a new coach.
I have heard they are trying to get a previous coach to return

[Blueboy]

I have heard they are trying to get a previous coach to return
Which one?

[Hurricane]

Which one?

Bolch

[immersion]

Bolch

I don't think they should have let him go, to be honest. He got good results and was unlucky to come against a history-making Edgeworth team. I think he had one season where he went through undefeated in the regular season but didn't win the league with Olympic.

If I were Bolch I would stay at Maitland. He has the most experienced team on paper combined with great quality. The addition of Nick Cowburn probably puts them as favourites to win it right now.

[Hurricane]

I don't think they should have let him go, to be honest. He got good results and was unlucky to come against a history-making Edgeworth team. I think he had one season where he went through undefeated in the regular season but didn't win the league with Olympic.

If I were Bolch I would stay at Maitland. He has the most experienced team on paper combined with great quality. The addition of Nick Cowburn probably puts them as favourites to win it right now.

Quite funny that Maitland replaced Olympic in the semifinals last year and knocked them out of the cup this year. I agree immersion, i would be staying at Maitland

[immersion]

Quite funny that Maitland replaced Olympic in the semifinals last year and knocked them out of the cup this year. I agree immersion, i would be staying at Maitland

That is funny. Weird how the world works like that sometimes. I am sure Bolch would have been secretly happy about that.

[magician]

That noose is getting that little bit tighter for guinno.

[Hurricane]

The phones will be beeping hot tonight. Olympic lead one nil in the 77th minute and get beaten 4-1 . One would nearly say they gave up in the last 10 minutes of the game

[The Magician]

That noose is getting that little bit tighter for guinno.

Maybe at your next committee meeting the board can vote to turn the lights off after 75 minutes

[magician]

Maybe at your next committee meeting the board can vote to turn the lights off after 75 minutes

Is that all your pee brain could come up with

[2285]

Maitland 2 Magic 2

[Hurricane]

Maitland 2 Magic 2
How was the game 2285, draw a fair result ??

[2285]

How was the game 2285, draw a fair result ??

Yes ,both sides had there chances to win and was a good game .Draw was a fair result I thought

[Alton]

Yes ,both sides had there chances to win and was a good game .Draw was a fair result I thought

And the old saying rolls out when there is a draw, "it was a fair result" why won't someone come up with an honest answer and say it how it was. When we got called off I went and watched this one, Magic would be filthy they let the points slip, Trott and co were far busier.

[Local Rules]

And the old saying rolls out when there is a draw, "it was a fair result" why won't someone come up with an honest answer and say it how it was. When we got called off I went and watched this one, Magic would be filthy they let the points slip, Trott and co were far busier.

Especially when Brymora blazed one over the bar from 4 yards out with about 10 to go

[Roundball Enthusiast]

With NCIP replaced, are we going to see the return of Highfields Azzurri?

[pv4]

With NCIP replaced, are we going to see the return of Highfields Azzurri?

Charlestown Azzurri FC with the logo coloured like the old Highfields one.

[magician]

Jaffas vs maitland off tonight

[Hurricane]

Jaffas vs maitland off tonight
How is this possibly off ?

[Alton]

How is this possibly off ?

Surely Jimmy doesn't support the SOO theory?

[Quare Caeruleum]

bono malum superate

Anyone have more info on Magic Maitland game on weekend? I heard there was an altercation involving a coach and opposition player. Maybe this is a cover-up, but it didn't sound good?

Sic semper tyrannis.

[Hurricane]

bono malum superate

Anyone have more info on Magic Maitland game on weekend? I heard there was an altercation involving a coach and opposition player. Maybe this is a cover-up, but it didn't sound good?

Sic semper tyrannis.
Have heard the same, Magic coach putting his hands on the Maitland back up keeper. Will be interesting to see what happens next

[Texas Ranger]

Bloody disgrace. Why isn't something being done about it? Not the first cover up with this Magic coach.

[Wild Brew]

Bloody disgrace. Why isn't something being done about it? Not the first cover up with this Magic coach.
Has NNSWF gotten involved, or just sitting twiddling their thumbs

[hamburgler]

bono malum superate

Anyone have more info on Magic Maitland game on weekend? I heard there was an altercation involving a coach and opposition player. Maybe this is a cover-up, but it didn't sound good?

Sic semper tyrannis.

Hearing it was uncalled for and should lead to discipline by Northern, absolute breach of Northern and Magic code of conduct

[Hurricane]

Hearing it was uncalled for and should lead to discipline by Northern, absolute breach of Northern and Magic code of conduct

Do Magic have a code of conduct and if they do have they chosen not to implement it on all of the other occasions the coach has broken it

[hamburgler]

Do Magic have a code of conduct and if they do have they chosen not to implement it on all of the other occasions the coach has broken it

Did for youth players a few years back, presume for all players

[early_to_the_match]

Surely Magic will take action against their coach, if not there will be many questions.

[Goatscheese]

Did for youth players a few years back, presume for all players

Just because a club has a code of conduct doesn't mean that club especially a club like Magic will apply and fairly and consistently to everyone

[Johnno]

Just because a club has a code of conduct doesn't mean that club especially a club like Magic will apply and fairly and consistently to everyone

Agree with Goatscheese. The rest of you are all dilusional if you think the President of Magic is going to take any action against his son in law,.

[hamburgler]

Azzurri 2-0 over Olympic, goodbye McGuinness

[immersion]

Azzurri 2-0 over Olympic, goodbye McGuinness

Forum Question:

If you're the boss at Olympic do you sack McGuiness now, at the end of the season or keep him?

[Hurricane]

Forum Question:

If you're the boss at Olympic do you sack McGuiness now, at the end of the season or keep him?

They only just appointed for another year 2 weeks ago according to the Herald

[magician]

Forum Question:

If you're the boss at Olympic do you sack McGuiness now, at the end of the season or keep him?

In 2 years he has destroyed the club. Why would you want to keep him

[immersion]

They only just appointed for another year 2 weeks ago according to the Herald

Are their contracts with coaches? Would Olympic have to pay Mcguinness out?

[Football_Magic14]

In 2 years he has destroyed the club. Why would you want to keep him

Keen to elaborate?
Big statement from someone sitting behind a keyboard.

[Blueboy]

Keen to elaborate?
Big statement from someone sitting behind a keyboard.
30 players left in 2 years
2 years without Semis and not even close to being competitive
Crisis meeting after crisis meeting.
I bet the club is spewing they got rid of Bolch.

[Football_Magic14]

30 players left in 2 years
2 years without Semis and not even close to being competitive
Crisis meeting after crisis meeting.
I bet the club is spewing they got rid of Bolch.

They might be considering how Maitland are performing.
However, when was the last time Olympic won a minor premiership, GF or played FFA Cup round of 32 under Bolch?
Curious?

[magician]

They might be considering how Maitland are performing.
However, when was the last time Olympic won a minor premiership, GF or played FFA Cup round of 32 under Bolch?
Curious?

Bolch won them there first ever minor premiership. And played in 2 grand finals.

[Texas Ranger]

Maybe R Zad could be his replacement?

[Dontknowmuch]

Maybe R Zad could be his replacement?

Speaking of R Zad, anything further with his incident last weekend? Or does he get away with another one.

[Alton]

They might be considering how Maitland are performing.
However, when was the last time Olympic won a minor premiership, GF or played FFA Cup round of 32 under Bolch?
Curious?

Come on people, the answer is staring you in the face, Maitland doing well cause Bolch took Olympic players, Olympic not doing well cause players went to Maitland.

[Hurricane]

Come on people, the answer is staring you in the face, Maitland doing well cause Bolch took Olympic players, Olympic not doing well cause players went to Maitland.

There are 3 Olympic players in Maitland's starting side.
The Swan brothers and Tom Davies. Maybe you should investigate a bit deeper if you think this is why Olympic is not doing well Alton.
I don't think it has much to do with Bolch leaving, more to do with the new coach and the clubs youth policy that isn't working

[hamburgler]

There are 3 Olympic players in Maitland's starting side.
The Swan brothers and Tom Davies. Maybe you should investigate a bit deeper if you think this is why Olympic is not doing well Alton.
I don't think it has much to do with Bolch leaving, more to do with the new coach and the clubs youth policy that isn't working

Yep 3 starting, 3 more regularly on bench - brown, Pratt, Townsend (although mostly recently).

[Football_Magic14]

Come on people, the answer is staring you in the face, Maitland doing well cause Bolch took Olympic players, Olympic not doing well cause players went to Maitland.

Those players must have been instrumental in the ‘success’ that Olympic have had over all of the previous years.

Agree that the current Olympic team isn’t as successful as the older looking Bolch teams but you should remember that 2012 was the last time they won something which wasn’t even the grand final.

[magician]

Maitland 3 Charlestown 0
Jets 1 Weston 1
Olympic 2 lakes 2

[LongSufferingFan]

Maitland 3 Charlestown 0
Jets 1 Weston 1
Olympic 2 lakes 2

McGuiness will be gone by this time tomorrow.

[hamburgler]

McGuiness will be gone by this time tomorrow.

Surely Webb and Cansdell-Sherriff not far behind.

[Speedymetric]

Bit of a different topic but can someone with more knowledge than me give me an idea on which player has played at the most local clubs?

I'll throw a couple of names out there to start with, Joel Wood & Jamie Byrnes. No idea how many teams they've actually played for but every year when I go & watch a few games they seem to be in different colours.

[onlooker]

Bit of a different topic but can someone with more knowledge than me give me an idea on which player has played at the most local clubs?

I'll throw a couple of names out there to start with, Joel Wood & Jamie Byrnes. No idea how many teams they've actually played for but every year when I go & watch a few games they seem to be in different colours.

Ben Kelly would be up to 5 clubs I think..

[Stanley]

Surely Webb and Cansdell-Sherriff not far behind.

Sills at Valentine, surely their big spending to be sitting 9th isn't acceptable

[Blueboy]

Sills at Valentine, surely their big spending to be sitting 9th isn't acceptable

Another than Bailey and Ben hay( no longer there) who else there is on big money?

[immersion]

Another than Bailey and Ben hay( no longer there) who else there is on big money?

I am not saying that the following are on big money, just brainstorming.

Brown, Paul, Olzhiemer (no doubt butchered the spelling) might be on bigger money than average perhaps?

[Aegon]

Another than Bailey and Ben hay( no longer there) who else there is on big money?

Where did Ben Hay go?

[Bull fighter]

Where did Ben Hay go?
Overseas holiday, think he returns just before end of season

[Hurricane]

Speaking of R Zad, anything further with his incident last weekend? Or does he get away with another one.

Why is this incident not being looked into by northern. Wouldn't it be something that falls under their code of conduct. Surely a coach putting his hands on an opposition player can't be ignored or swept under the carpet by his employer

[hamburgler]

Why is this incident not being looked into by northern. Wouldn't it be something that falls under their code of conduct. Surely a coach putting his hands on an opposition player can't be ignored or swept under the carpet by his employer

Really poor of Northern to not act

[Johnno]

So 17 teams maximum in the two men’s Premier grade comps next season and that includes Jets. My mail is if the Jets go to Sydney like they want and have applied for there will be two divisions of NPL 1 and 2 played over 3 rounds with 8 teams in each for senior grades and a flat based structure for youth grades with all teams in. Been told 2 clubs to almost guaranteed to be be in 2nd tier are Lakes and Valentine based not only on results but very poor facilities and only need a shower of rain and games called off. Valo also have no suitable lighting at CB complex. Last club to go down if Jets are not admitted to Sydney is interesting with both Adamstown and Charlestown in the firing line. All officially revealed after the Grand Final.

[Bremsstrahlung]

imo, If you meet the NPL standards as all of the current teams do, they shouldn't be relegated for facilities (unless of course their facilities didn't meet the criteria in the first place.....). Relegation should be on results, and the bottom 3? teams drop down.

I'm curious to see how this works. Will it improve attendances or diminish them?
For any club relegated, I imagine there will be a loss of revenue from sponsors at least.

Tell you what would be fun to watch. A 16 team NPL in 2020. Play eachother once then split into top 8/bottom 8. Welcome to your NPL1 and 2. Play eachother once. Finals for each.

[Aegon]

So 17 teams maximum in the two men’s Premier grade comps next season and that includes Jets. My mail is if the Jets go to Sydney like they want and have applied for there will be two divisions of NPL 1 and 2 played over 3 rounds with 8 teams in each for senior grades and a flat based structure for youth grades with all teams in. Been told 2 clubs to almost guaranteed to be be in 2nd tier are Lakes and Valentine based not only on results but very poor facilities and only need a shower of rain and games called off. Valo also have no suitable lighting at CB complex. Last club to go down if Jets are not admitted to Sydney is interesting with both Adamstown and Charlestown in the firing line. All officially revealed after the Grand Final.

That seems contrary to all other information released previously.

Northern wanted a 12 team NPL competition with promotion/relegation. If they have 17 NPL licensed clubs then the intention was to run with 12 team NPL and a 10 team NL1 still. There would be the opportunity for the NPL licensed teams to promote from NL1 if they win the comp.


flat based structure for youth grades with all teams in

I like the idea of this as it gives teams like cooks hills, new lambton, etc the chance to retain their juniors and stop losing them to NPL clubs. However, I don't think it's going to be pretty watching Magic, Olympic, Jets Youth teams play the likes of Cessnock, Thornton, Singleton etc though.

[Aegon]

imo, If you meet the NPL standards as all of the current teams do, they shouldn't be relegated for facilities (unless of course their facilities didn't meet the criteria in the first place.....). Relegation should be on results, and the bottom 3? teams drop down.

I'm curious to see how this works. Will it improve attendances or diminish them?
For any club relegated, I imagine there will be a loss of revenue from sponsors at least.

Tell you what would be fun to watch. A 16 team NPL in 2020. Play eachother once then split into top 8/bottom 8. Welcome to your NPL1 and 2. Play eachother once. Finals for each.

The concerns raised about going to around 16 teams is that halfway through the season you have the prospect of clubs having nothing left to play for. Similar to watching Lakes, Adamstown or Valentine play each other now.

The Jets Youth also struggle for motivation as they really have nothing to play for week in, week out.

[Reds Forever]

That seems contrary to all other information released previously.

Northern wanted a 12 team NPL competition with promotion/relegation. If they have 17 NPL licensed clubs then the intention was to run with 12 team NPL and a 10 team NL1 still. There would be the opportunity for the NPL licensed teams to promote from NL1 if they win the comp.



I like the idea of this as it gives teams like cooks hills, new lambton, etc the chance to retain their juniors and stop losing them to NPL clubs. However, I don't think it's going to be pretty watching Magic, Olympic, Jets Youth teams play the likes of Cessnock, Thornton, Singleton etc though.

I would imagine the Youth NPL would only be teams in the NPL comps. Therefore Cessnock and Singo would not be part of the Youth NPL comp. So looking at between 16 or 17 teams plus North Coast, Mid North Coast and possibly Northern Inland.

[Reds Forever]

So 17 teams maximum in the two men’s Premier grade comps next season and that includes Jets. My mail is if the Jets go to Sydney like they want and have applied for there will be two divisions of NPL 1 and 2 played over 3 rounds with 8 teams in each for senior grades and a flat based structure for youth grades with all teams in. Been told 2 clubs to almost guaranteed to be be in 2nd tier are Lakes and Valentine based not only on results but very poor facilities and only need a shower of rain and games called off. Valo also have no suitable lighting at CB complex. Last club to go down if Jets are not admitted to Sydney is interesting with both Adamstown and Charlestown in the firing line. All officially revealed after the Grand Final.

Any idea what happens to teams that don't make NPL? Do they just go to Zone League or will there be a State League under NPL still?

[Swanky]

Any idea what happens to teams that don't make NPL? Do they just go to Zone League or will there be a State League under NPL still?

That will be alot of money lost to NNSW thru registrations.

[The Postman]

What’s the point of NewFM if there are NPL 1 & 2.

No one cares about NewFM as it is and the better players are already playing NPL or even some playing ZPL with their mates.

NPL 1 with 8
NPL 2 with 9

The other NewFM teams who didn’t apply, back to ZL.

[Hurricane]

Jets will go to Sydney leaving 16 teams for Npl 1 and Npl 2 with the rest of the newfm teams relegated to Zone football.
NPL 1
Edgeworth
Broadmeadow
Hamilton
Lambton
Maitland
Weston
Azzurri
Adamstown or Lakes

NPL 2
Adamstown or Lakes
Valentine
Kahibah
Wallsend
West Wallsend
Cooks Hill
Belswans
South Cardiff

With promotion and relegation between Npl 1 and 2

[Hunter403]

imo, If you meet the NPL standards as all of the current teams do, they shouldn't be relegated for facilities (unless of course their facilities didn't meet the criteria in the first place.....). Relegation should be on results, and the bottom 3? teams drop down.

The question here is: do all current NPL sides meet the facilities criteria? Having read the criteria, I can tell you with certainty that many current NPL sides do not meet the standard.

[Hunter403]

Jets will go to Sydney leaving 16 teams for Npl 1 and Npl 2 with the rest of the newfm teams relegated to Zone football.
NPL 1
Edgeworth
Broadmeadow
Hamilton
Lambton
Maitland
Weston
Azzurri
Adamstown or Lakes

NPL 2
Adamstown or Lakes
Valentine
Kahibah
Wallsend
West Wallsend
Cooks Hill
Belswans
South Cardiff

With promotion and relegation between Npl 1 and 2

It will be damn hard to keep Cooks Hill out of NPL1. They have a history of performance, the juniors, the money and the ground.

Based on performance, grounds, juniors and any combination of the three, this would be my comps come the revolution:

NPL 1
1 Edgeworth
2 Broadmeadow
3 Hamilton
4 Lambton
5 Maitland
6 Weston
7 Azzurri
8 Cooks Hill

NPL 2
1 Lakes
2 Valentine
3 Kahibah
4 Wallsend
5 West Wallsend
6 Belswans
7 South Cardiff
8 Adamstown

Relegating 3 from the current NPL will cause much wailing and gnashing of teeth, but to give Cooks Hill a deserved shot then 3 go down unless they are happy with uneven numbers in the two comps or want a bye. Could they go 9 an 7? Possible.

Oh, and 3 rounds please.

A shame about Thornton. Such a growth area.

Youth: all in together. Yep, there will be smashings but they will lessen over time thanks to SAP or equivalent programmes. Allow Mid North Coast and North Coast to be part of the youth comp

[Aegon]

The above scenarios are all dependent on the NPL licenses being issued.
If 16 clubs have applied (not including the Jets), there’s a likelihood that some of them won’t be granted.
Then we might end up with a 12,13 or 14 team competition anyway.

[hamburgler]

Azzurri 3-0 over Buds tonight. Been a very tough year for Buds supporters!

[Goatscheese]

It will be damn hard to keep Cooks Hill out of NPL1. They have a history of performance, the juniors, the money and the ground.

Based on performance, grounds, juniors and any combination of the three, this would be my comps come the revolution:

NPL 1
1 Edgeworth
2 Broadmeadow
3 Hamilton
4 Lambton
5 Maitland
6 Weston
7 Azzurri
8 Cooks Hill

NPL 2
1 Lakes
2 Valentine
3 Kahibah
4 Wallsend
5 West Wallsend
6 Belswans
7 South Cardiff
8 Adamstown

Relegating 3 from the current NPL will cause much wailing and gnashing of teeth, but to give Cooks Hill a deserved shot then 3 go down unless they are happy with uneven numbers in the two comps or want a bye. Could they go 9 an 7? Possible.

Oh, and 3 rounds please.

A shame about Thornton. Such a growth area.

Youth: all in together. Yep, there will be smashings but they will lessen over time thanks to SAP or equivalent programmes. Allow Mid North Coast and North Coast to be part of the youth comp

If Jets go to Sydney than two leagues of 8, 21 rounds everyone play each other three times. With promotion and relegation

As for Youth you can still have NPL1 and NPL2 but have the youth in one or two based on past performance. Possible to have Youth in NPL1 and seniors in NPL2 and vice versa. Promote and relegate the Youth based on a club championship between U16-U13. Those clubs that develop Youth and promote strong youth teams will see their youth in NPL1 while those that don't will have their youth in NPL2

As for Thornton, that Thornton want to play at Thornton Oval means they can't have such a shit field in the NPL, shouldn't even be in NewFM

It's more a shame for New Lambton, large club, strong teams across all grades, plenty of money.

[Negative Police]

What happened to New Lambton hitting the NPL? I was informed via public meetings they were pushing hard at the beginning of the year.

[Hunter403]

What happened to New Lambton hitting the NPL? I was informed via public meetings they were pushing hard at the beginning of the year.

Apparently they didn't apply.

[Negative Police]

Apparently they didn't apply.

Puzzling. As mentioned strong right through to U23's. Huge player base.

Im sure Foley was building up to promotion. I think if they are waiting to build through the juniors they may leave first.

[ABCDEF]

If they decide to go to two 8 team comps it will be an absolute disaster. They want to generate interest but by the time they get to the third round there will be none, just like the a-league. If teams are eligible to play NPL make a 14 team comp then. More games = more development. The people who think 2x 8 team tiers is a good idea are delirious.

[immersion]

If they decide to go to two 8 team comps it will be an absolute disaster. They want to generate interest but by the time they get to the third round there will be none, just like the a-league. If teams are eligible to play NPL make a 14 team comp then. More games = more development. The people who think 2x 8 team tiers is a good idea are delirious.

I understand your thoughts behind your ideas.

But, what about the dilution of the competition? The bottom couple of teams in the NPL now are struggling. I think the separation would be a lot worse between the top teams and the bottom. The better ran, and successful teams will always attract the majority of the best players.

Secondly, the top couple of clubs would lose a player or two because of a player chasing money, and that's fine, to each his own. But those top teams who have lost a quality player or two will struggle to compete with the other top NPL teams then. In only been last 5-8 years that Newcastle teams have competed very well with other top NPL teams. I don't think the competition as a whole would like to lose that reputation.

I'm happy for someone to poke holes in my thoughts. Just my 2 cents.

[Negative Police]

Tell you what would be fun to watch. A 16 team NPL in 2020. Play each other once then split into top 8/bottom 8. Welcome to your NPL1 and 2. Play each other once. Finals for each.

15 games 1st rnd, 7 games second then Semis. All teams still classed as NPL and end up where they deserve.

[oneeye]

There will not be much change at all NNSWF have said they want a 10 team comp and would prefer 2 NPL divisions, but if they could only get 1 they would have NL1.
So if Jets go to Sydney only change will be Valentine out due to ground has changed since original acceptance. Cooks Hill promoted so NNSWF can have a good news story. If Jets stay Valentine gone and no one promoted.
No teams are going back to Zone football as this would wipe over 100k from NNSWF revenue.
So NL1 will have teams with a NPL Licence and without, if a team with a Licence wins the comp they will be promoted. If a Club wins the Minor Premiership without a Licence no promotion that year.
For NNSWF it’s a win.
10 team comp , Promotion / relegation and keep all the Money.
Clubs without a licence have until end of 2021 to apply for a Licence as Zone Clubs can apply then.

[NUGUNS]

15 games 1st rnd, 7 games second then Semis. All teams still classed as NPL and end up where they deserve.

That'd be to confusing for the average joe to figure out.

I think this would be more acceptable.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFOvldn_IRw

[Onyatoes]

Puzzling. As mentioned strong right through to U23's. Huge player base.

Im sure Foley was building up to promotion. I think if they are waiting to build through the juniors they may leave first.

As with most things in local football, the rumour and innuendo is short on fact. New Lambton FC did not apply because despite attempts to satisfy their due dilligence with NNSWF, they could not find common ground on what a new look NPL would look like. Nor any satisfaction that an NPL would look any different to what an NPL currently looks like in NNSWF which, (if we are honest), is a competition short on quality, depth, youth development, gender equality and suitable resources (Magic Park the best in Newcastle is testament to this). The 17 clubs who have applied fall into 2 buckets, the existing NPl clubs who are all but guaranteed, and the NL1 clubs who have applied thinking that they had to in order to stay in a second tier (or who genuinely think they can go up). The criteria is stretching for 10 teams, let alone 17. It is the preference of the NNSWF Board to see a 12 team NPL. Any less and the miniscule relevance that NNSWF has on the national stage now is diluted further. If The Jets go to Sydney (unlikely that they have the cash), two spaces open up. Cooks Hill and South Cardiff have the facilities albeit both will require work and probably $80k -$100k in capital to cover wages for players and staff. All other teams then fall into whatever a second tier looks like. NL1, Northern Second Division, NNSWF Conference League, whatever. It wont be branded a NPL 2 as there wont be enough teams compliant with an NPL licence to form a competition to justify Premier status. If Cooks Hill and Southy go it leaves Kahibah, West Wallsend, Wallsend, Belswans looking for opposition. NNSWF have confirmed, that any club can apply for an NPL licence from 2021 and any underlying second tier club would need to win a second tier AND meet all requirements for NPL, to gain promotion. If a compliant club does win a second tier, an NPL club will be relegated. NNSWF might put a cap that there needs to be at least 60% of second tier clubs who do qualify to enact this rule. It may take a few years. New Lambton sources that I know are smart dudes. They satisfied every part of NPL criteria except a ground but they have a very close association to both The Newcastle Council and State and Federal Members that sees them well placed once Council finish their audit on local sports ground usage in Spetember to pounce. They have formal development plans across 3 grounds pending, huge juniors and competitive Youth teams in all ages of NL1. Jim Foley will lead a Coaching review in 2020 and they are appointing a Football Operations team to drive Mens Youth and Womens programs to the next level. Their message is that they prefer to sit and watch to see what transpires around them. One official told me last night that with all the conjecture, New Lambton also see very little benefit in supporting an NPL that does not suitably cater for WPL representation as part of NPL licences. With New Lambton being one of the only clubs who feature a WPL program, their decisions are based on the interest of their entire club, not just the 200 odd male NL1 numbers. New Lambton will feature in a second tier in 2020, a second tier that will have Youth teams aligned to the NPL ages and most probably one that will feature Thornton, Toronto, Singleton and Cessnock. Maybe....unless those clubs see no benefit in an eventual NPL push which would see them seek Zone affiliations. Hopefully that clears the air. NPL 2020.......dont get too excited as it will be the same old same old....with a little lipstick applied to the same old pig. 2021 and beyond....? Who knows what will happen but tread cautiously is the advice of those South of The Gully Line.

[Barry Dawson]

There will not be much change at all NNSWF have said they want a 10 team comp and would prefer 2 NPL divisions, but if they could only get 1 they would have NL1.
So if Jets go to Sydney only change will be Valentine out due to ground has changed since original acceptance. Cooks Hill promoted so NNSWF can have a good news story. If Jets stay Valentine gone and no one promoted.
No teams are going back to Zone football as this would wipe over 100k from NNSWF revenue.
So NL1 will have teams with a NPL Licence and without, if a team with a Licence wins the comp they will be promoted. If a Club wins the Minor Premiership without a Licence no promotion that year.
For NNSWF it’s a win.
10 team comp , Promotion / relegation and keep all the Money.
Clubs without a licence have until end of 2021 to apply for a Licence as Zone Clubs can apply then.

A two tier comp is good in theory, no disrespect to the NL1 clubs who have applied, but do NNSW have the kahoonas to drop 2 or even 3 existing NPL clubs in 2020 to make this a reality? Imagine the mutiny by the clubs involved? We all know Mr Eland loves to consult on everything and won’t want to come out smelling of any impropriety - even after 3 years of talking about 2 tiers, they still cannot confirm the structure of 2020 competition. No way will he drop NPL teams to second tier in 2020.

Sensible option - promote Cookers, remove the bye (Jets going nowhere honestly), rest stay in NL1 another year and draw from a pool of complying clubs for promotion/relegation in 2021.

I just hope that the NL1 clubs who have applied haven’t spent ridiculous money getting ready for another year in second tier.

[immersion]

As with most things in local football, the rumour and innuendo is short on fact. New Lambton FC did not apply because despite attempts to satisfy their due dilligence with NNSWF, they could not find common ground on what a new look NPL would look like. Nor any satisfaction that an NPL would look any different to what an NPL currently looks like in NNSWF which, (if we are honest), is a competition short on quality, depth, youth development, gender equality and suitable resources (Magic Park the best in Newcastle is testament to this). The 17 clubs who have applied fall into 2 buckets, the existing NPl clubs who are all but guaranteed, and the NL1 clubs who have applied thinking that they had to in order to stay in a second tier (or who genuinely think they can go up). The criteria is stretching for 10 teams, let alone 17. It is the preference of the NNSWF Board to see a 12 team NPL. Any less and the miniscule relevance that NNSWF has on the national stage now is diluted further. If The Jets go to Sydney (unlikely that they have the cash), two spaces open up. Cooks Hill and South Cardiff have the facilities albeit both will require work and probably $80k -$100k in capital to cover wages for players and staff. All other teams then fall into whatever a second tier looks like. NL1, Northern Second Division, NNSWF Conference League, whatever. It wont be branded a NPL 2 as there wont be enough teams compliant with an NPL licence to form a competition to justify Premier status. If Cooks Hill and Southy go it leaves Kahibah, West Wallsend, Wallsend, Belswans looking for opposition. NNSWF have confirmed, that any club can apply for an NPL licence from 2021 and any underlying second tier club would need to win a second tier AND meet all requirements for NPL, to gain promotion. If a compliant club does win a second tier, an NPL club will be relegated. NNSWF might put a cap that there needs to be at least 60% of second tier clubs who do qualify to enact this rule. It may take a few years. New Lambton sources that I know are smart dudes. They satisfied every part of NPL criteria except a ground but they have a very close association to both The Newcastle Council and State and Federal Members that sees them well placed once Council finish their audit on local sports ground usage in Spetember to pounce. They have formal development plans across 3 grounds pending, huge juniors and competitive Youth teams in all ages of NL1. Jim Foley will lead a Coaching review in 2020 and they are appointing a Football Operations team to drive Mens Youth and Womens programs to the next level. Their message is that they prefer to sit and watch to see what transpires around them. One official told me last night that with all the conjecture, New Lambton also see very little benefit in supporting an NPL that does not suitably cater for WPL representation as part of NPL licences. With New Lambton being one of the only clubs who feature a WPL program, their decisions are based on the interest of their entire club, not just the 200 odd male NL1 numbers. New Lambton will feature in a second tier in 2020, a second tier that will have Youth teams aligned to the NPL ages and most probably one that will feature Thornton, Toronto, Singleton and Cessnock. Maybe....unless those clubs see no benefit in an eventual NPL push which would see them seek Zone affiliations. Hopefully that clears the air. NPL 2020.......dont get too excited as it will be the same old same old....with a little lipstick applied to the same old pig. 2021 and beyond....? Who knows what will happen but tread cautiously is the advice of those South of The Gully Line.

Format your text brother. This wall of text is more intimidating then the great wall of China was to Mongolians.

[Onyatoes]

Format your text brother. This wall of text is more intimidating then the great wall of China was to Mongolians.

Genghis Khan breached the wall, decapitated the Imperial Guard and drank blood from their skulls. Anything is possible and this forum is devoid of fact. Apologies if it took too long to put the fires of bullshit that pervades local football out. I will hibernate for a while Immersion.

[immersion]

Genghis Khan breached the wall, decapitated the Imperial Guard and drank blood from their skulls. Anything is possible and this forum is devoid of fact. Apologies if it took too long to put the fires of bullshit that pervades local football out. I will hibernate for a while Immersion.

If Genghis Khan had of used paragraphs and headlines imagine what he would have been able to do lol.

[Goatscheese]

They satisfied every part of NPL criteria except a ground

A ground and all the other criteria associated with the ground, such as size of changerooms, ones for both men and women, media box, etc.


One official told me last night that with all the conjecture, New Lambton also see very little benefit in supporting an NPL that does not suitably cater for WPL representation as part of NPL licences.

Well good luck with that, half the WPL teams aren't part of NPL/NL1 clubs, two of them are powerhouses and one is a former powerhouse. Those clubs aren't just going to want to have to give up their WPL teams after all the effort they have put into them over the years tp go to some NPL team simply for some bs about gender equality or some fanciful notion that an NPL club must also have a WPL club. You get top female teams not part of top teams elsewhere in the country.

That's before we get into how there isn't the depth for every club in the NPL currently let alone 16 clubs with NPL licenses to have a competitive and decent WPL squad.


With New Lambton being one of the only clubs who feature a WPL program

One of the only sounds weird, half the competition are part of clubs in NL1.

[Barry Dawson]

A ground and all the other criteria associated with the ground, such as size of changerooms, ones for both men and women, media box, etc.



Well good luck with that, half the WPL teams aren't part of NPL/NL1 clubs, two of them are powerhouses and one is a former powerhouse. Those clubs aren't just going to want to have to give up their WPL teams after all the effort they have put into them over the years tp go to some NPL team simply for some bs about gender equality or some fanciful notion that an NPL club must also have a WPL club. You get top female teams not part of top teams elsewhere in the country.

That's before we get into how there isn't the depth for every club in the NPL currently let alone 16 clubs with NPL licenses to have a competitive and decent WPL squad.



One of the only sounds weird, half the competition are part of clubs in NL1.

How unrealistic NNSW’s plans are to roll “NPL” requirements deeper into the region will be seen when they try it on with the WPL - because that’s what will make the competition flourish.

A number of clubs won’t come close and will never have the ability or support from Council to develop their grounds - and in at 2 examples remove a cricket pitch.

This is why partnerships between WPL and NPL clubs will be important in the future. Maybe not handing over the reigns? But at very least ground sharing.

Not enough complying grounds, held by too few “men only” clubs and not enough money about to create more. The outcome of Councils ground review will be interesting in this respect.

[plague]

The sooner some of these inner city clubs pool their resources and ground share the better off they'll be.

[Aegon]

The sooner some of these inner city clubs pool their resources and ground share the better off they'll be.

Whilst I agree with the sentiment. The logistics would be a nightmare. Darling St, Magic Park and Arthur Edden Oval are prime examples of this. With only one club utilising the grounds the youth teams are still required to train on other fields due to lack of availability.

[plague]

Whilst I agree with the sentiment. The logistics would be a nightmare. Darling St, Magic Park and Arthur Edden Oval are prime examples of this.

These 3 clubs combined have more resources, fans, members and clout than Wanderers rugby ever had, and look what they managed to achieve all on thier own.

You pool resources, create one matchday venue then keep your existing facilities for training/youth without needing to each spend massive dollars on lights /seats/corporates etc in order to comply.

[MFKS]

The concerns raised about going to around 16 teams is that halfway through the season you have the prospect of clubs having nothing left to play for. Similar to watching Lakes, Adamstown or Valentine play each other now.

The Jets Youth also struggle for motivation as they really have nothing to play for week in, week out.

How is this different to the HAL or the NPL now??

Simplest way to fix it is install Promotion and Relegation

How these clowns at Northern after 100 odd years don't have a Pro/Rel set up in the Hunter is a joke

[londonboy]

New Lambton sources that I know are smart dudes. They satisfied every part of NPL criteria except a ground but they have a very close association to both The Newcastle Council and State and Federal Members that sees them well placed once Council finish their audit on local sports ground usage in Spetember to pounce. They have formal development plans across 3 grounds pending, huge juniors and competitive Youth teams in all ages of NL1. Jim Foley will lead a Coaching review in 2020 and they are appointing a Football Operations team to drive Mens Youth and Womens programs to the next level.

It sounds like your sources are very well placed. So, New Lambton are actually hoping to buy the ground and then redevelop?? I'd heard the club had some financial backing, but that sounds like an enormous investment. It would be fantastic if they pulled it off though. That sort of ambition will ruffle a few feathers and kick some of the other clubs into gear.

The Football Operations team sounds like a really forward thinking approach. Do any other clubs in the region have this kind of set-up?

[plague]

I'd heard the club had some financial backing, but that sounds like an enormous investment.

arent they in the midst of partnering(?) with a pretty potentially decent revenue stream that would enhance this whole project?

or am i speaking out of turn here?

[Onyatoes]

Whilst I agree with the sentiment. The logistics would be a nightmare. Darling St, Magic Park and Arthur Edden Oval are prime examples of this. With only one club utilising the grounds the youth teams are still required to train on other fields due to lack of availability.

Contrary to popular opinion Olympic and Jaffas dont own these facilities. They are both District sports grounds. Available for use by whomever whenever. Magic have a long term lease and a Regional status that lets them lock it up. At the end of the day, 200 blokes locking up a Council asset for semi pro part time football is out the window. Not just football either. Loads of Rugby grounds locally that cling to heritage tenancy. A shake up looming and ground sharing will be a given.

[Aegon]

How is this different to the HAL or the NPL now??

Simplest way to fix it is install Promotion and Relegation

How these clowns at Northern after 100 odd years don't have a Pro/Rel set up in the Hunter is a joke

It's not, and you obviously didn't read everything i wrote. The point is they want a 12 team NPL with promotion and relegation.

[Aegon]

Contrary to popular opinion Olympic and Jaffas dont own these facilities. They are both District sports grounds. Available for use by whomever whenever. Magic have a long term lease and a Regional status that lets them lock it up. At the end of the day, 200 blokes locking up a Council asset for semi pro part time football is out the window. Not just football either. Loads of Rugby grounds locally that cling to heritage tenancy. A shake up looming and ground sharing will be a given.

I never said they owned the facilities.

I am pointing out that 3 inner city clubs play and train on these grounds but it already isn't enough. they have Youth and SAP teams that train on other fields due to the fact their isn't enough time and availability to go around on the main grounds.

[Barry Dawson]

There’s not you are correct - but it’s not the main pitches that are the problem for training space - It’s number of and availability of training space.

It’s hard to fathom when you look at the number of people playing football, how league and union are still able to lock up so much space. E.g. Wests have 6 fields under their control and they have less than 400 players in their club! That’s about 70 players per field. When you have Cooks Hill with 800 and New Lambton with 1500 - who have 375 per field.

As soon as Council move out of the 70’s the sooner we will have facilities we can all be proud of!

[Goatscheese]

How unrealistic NNSW’s plans are to roll “NPL” requirements deeper into the region will be seen when they try it on with the WPL - because that’s what will make the competition flourish.

A number of clubs won’t come close and will never have the ability or support from Council to develop their grounds - and in at 2 examples remove a cricket pitch.

This is why partnerships between WPL and NPL clubs will be important in the future. Maybe not handing over the reigns? But at very least ground sharing.

Not enough complying grounds, held by too few “men only” clubs and not enough money about to create more. The outcome of Councils ground review will be interesting in this respect.

Newcastle Council's ground review? Because right now only 3 of the 5 clubs within Newcastle council do ground share with Northern clubs already. Are South Wallsend going to be happy to play elsewhere? Mereweather should be.

Warners Bay have done a lot of work on their grounds and their facilities, they are happy to just leave all that to go to some shit hole like Croudace Bay Complex?


The sooner some of these inner city clubs pool their resources and ground share the better off they'll be.

In regards to NL1/NPL and WPL the majority of these inner city clubs already do

[Goatscheese]

It sounds like your sources are very well placed. So, New Lambton are actually hoping to buy the ground and then redevelop?? I'd heard the club had some financial backing, but that sounds like an enormous investment. It would be fantastic if they pulled it off though. That sort of ambition will ruffle a few feathers and kick some of the other clubs into gear.

The Football Operations team sounds like a really forward thinking approach. Do any other clubs in the region have this kind of set-up?

Most if not all other clubs use council owned facilities, will Newcastle Council sell off their land to one club?

[Bull fighter]

Warners Bay have done a lot of work on their grounds and their facilities, they are happy to just leave all that to go to some shit hole like Croudace Bay

Council did all the work at Warner’s Bay and you should be aware that Croudace Bay is being completely redone both grounds & facilities in the very near future by the council as well.

[plague]

In regards to NL1/NPL and WPL the majority of these inner city clubs already do

Nah, I'm talking about NPL clubs groundsharing with other NPL clubs in order to have one top notch facility.
There's a reason Magic keep getting the marquee games yeah?

[Reds Forever]

Nah, I'm talking about NPL clubs groundsharing with other NPL clubs in order to have one top notch facility.
There's a reason Magic keep getting the marquee games yeah?

Would not surprise me to see local councils start looking to utilise synthetic pitches with upgraded grandstands and have multiple users share the ground. Not many grass pitches in use in NSW NPL these days.

[Barry Dawson]

Not sure about LondonBoy’s source reliability on this one.

[Barry Dawson]

Newcastle Council's ground review? Because right now only 3 of the 5 clubs within Newcastle council do ground share with Northern clubs already. Are South Wallsend going to be happy to play elsewhere? Mereweather should be.

Warners Bay have done a lot of work on their grounds and their facilities, they are happy to just leave all that to go to some shit hole like Croudace Bay Complex?



In regards to NL1/NPL and WPL the majority of these inner city clubs already do

In an NPL type requirements setting, Southy for example would need to move if they can’t find the hundreds and hundreds of thousands dollars needed to upgrade walker fields.

This is my broader point - what WPL club has that money? Ground sharing only option or the comp dies if NNSW keeps pushing on with NPL standards in WPL

[Goatscheese]

Nah, I'm talking about NPL clubs groundsharing with other NPL clubs in order to have one top notch facility.
There's a reason Magic keep getting the marquee games yeah?

Goodluck getting Magic to share their grounds with other teams. Not to mention the logistical nightmare of trying to play matches on it during a weekend.


Would not surprise me to see local councils start looking to utilise synthetic pitches with upgraded grandstands and have multiple users share the ground. Not many grass pitches in use in NSW NPL these days.

The day Newcastle Council spend money on their grounds is the day Liverpool win the league

[Blueboy]

Good to see Magic taking the assault on an opposition player seriously.
1 game in house suspension. What a joke.
Hopefully the kid takes it to northern .

[plague]

The day Newcastle Council spend money on their grounds is the day Liverpool win the league

yeah, if only there was a local billion dollar company with a narcissistic leader who is all about shiny things and photo ops who cant even spend their yearly works budget and has $100m cash sitting in short term investments handy that could help fund something like this if only people who had, i dunno, thousands and thousands of members at their disposal went to them and said, 'imagine how many of these people will vote for you if you do something good for them'.

yeah you're right though,no point even considering it, lets just keep getting people to put their high beams on round the side of the ground and hope for the best.

[Hurricane]

Good to see Magic taking the assault on an opposition player seriously.
1 game in house suspension. What a joke.
Hopefully the kid takes it to northern .

Why ? So northern can fine him $250 like they did when he assaulted Nesbitt on grand final day 2 years ago at Magic Stadium

[traffic light]

As with most things in local football, the rumour and innuendo is short on fact. New Lambton FC did not apply because despite attempts to satisfy their due dilligence with NNSWF, they could not find common ground on what a new lhatook NPL would look like. Nor any satisfaction that an NPL would look any different to what an NPL currently looks like in NNSWF which, (if we are honest), is a competition short on quality, depth, youth development, gender equality and suitable resources (Magic Park the best in Newcastle is testament to this).

Great post but i'll correct you on 2 things. Info I got was fact and from the club at the time, none of this opinion innuendo tripe. Bear in mind much of the hear say that ends up on here is either wind up or has much truth. I do applaud that you added the future projection of the club.

Next the crap about gender inequality.
It took decades for boys and men to get to where we are today mostly no pay or insurance. The women have jumped straight in on the back of this work in spectacular fashion to get competitions, grounds, refs, coaching, resources in quick time. And thats great but no one is going to be a whinging asshole mangina about the state of play but be thankful for the quick ascendancy and assured future in this era.

[Hurricane]

Edgeworth too good for Maitland winning 3-1

[Goatscheese]

yeah, if only there was a local billion dollar company with a narcissistic leader who is all about shiny things and photo ops who cant even spend their yearly works budget and has $100m cash sitting in short term investments handy that could help fund something like this if only people who had, i dunno, thousands and thousands of members at their disposal went to them and said, 'imagine how many of these people will vote for you if you do something good for them'.

yeah you're right though,no point even considering it, lets just keep getting people to put their high beams on round the side of the ground and hope for the best.

All I can say after this stroke inducing rant is that they don't need those votes from people because they have them already.

[plague]

All I can say after this stroke inducing rant is that they don't need those votes from people because they have them already.

oh, but you believe that 'they' and 'her' are the same thing.

ok then.

[Goatscheese]

oh, but you believe that 'they' and 'her' are the same thing.

ok then.

Might need to be less delusional.

[londonboy]

Ruben Zadkovich to leave Magic at the end of the season "to pursue opportunities outside the Northern NSW NPL".

[Texas Ranger]

Ruben Zadkovich to leave Magic at the end of the season "to pursue opportunities outside the Northern NSW NPL".
Would those "opportunities" be forced upon him, or perhaps he sees a future in a different sport? I'm thinking MMA!

[ForeverRed]

Surely his not replacing Clacka at the jets

[Goatscheese]

Surely his not replacing Clacka at the jets

He is joining Sydney FC

[2285]

Maitland 3 V Lakes 2,

[Devon Sangas]

Very tight up the top half of the table! A few crucial games over the next few weeks.

Who do you guys think will make the top 4?

[Captain_Carl]

Very tight up the top half of the table! A few crucial games over the next few weeks.

Who do you guys think will make the top 4?

In order
1. Edgeworth
2. Broadmeadow
3. Weston
4. Maitland

[Alton]

In order
1. Edgeworth
2. Broadmeadow
3. Weston
4. Maitland

They would want to hope they play Jets Youth over the next couple of weeks! How they can be in the comp and play a senior trial game at the same time using Jets Youth players, that is taking the P......

[Aegon]

Very tight up the top half of the table! A few crucial games over the next few weeks.

Who do you guys think will make the top 4?

Jaffas, Maitland and Charlestown having 2 extra games in hand helps. I reckon its going to be super close but Azzuri will miss out by a couple of points and Jaffas will pip Weston by Goal Difference. If Maitland can beat Jaffas at Arthur Eddon I think they'll get the premiership.

1 - Edgeworth
2 - Magic
3 - Maitland
4 - Jaffas

5 - Weston
6 - Charlestown

[Stanley]

They would want to hope they play Jets Youth over the next couple of weeks! How they can be in the comp and play a senior trial game at the same time using Jets Youth players, that is taking the P......

Yeah, I heard it was a very under strength Jets team. Integrity of the NPL definitely compromised

[Alton]

Yeah, I heard it was a very under strength Jets team. Integrity of the NPL definitely compromised

FR has said that for years

[Stanley]

FR has said that for years

smart guy that FR

[Johnno]

smart guy that FR

He is and proven right again tonight with Lakes beating them 4-3 with against an under strength Jets side because of trial game against Wanderers. Clubs would just love to draw the Jets in the later rounds almost guaranteed 3 points and their disrespecting the competition again and its been going on since they’ve been in the comp when will Northern wake up and do something. Only good thing about tonight is just about guarantees Valo and Sills the Wooden Spoon and from what I’m hearing there last month of football in the NPL.

[Goatscheese]

He is and proven right again tonight with Lakes beating them 4-3 with against an under strength Jets side because of trial game against Wanderers. Clubs would just love to draw the Jets in the later rounds almost guaranteed 3 points and their disrespecting the competition again and its been going on since they’ve been in the comp when will Northern wake up and do something. Only good thing about tonight is just about guarantees Valo and Sills the Wooden Spoon and from what I’m hearing there last month of football in the NPL.

Will Football NSW stand for it if they took them into their comp?

[Stanley]

Will Football NSW stand for it if they took them into their comp?

Jets treat the NPL competition as a joke, how do you think Charlestown 3-1 loss rd1, Edgy 2-2 draw rd2, Jaffas 3-1 loss rd8 (although Jaffas did get an easy 3 point off them last weekend) and Weston 1-1 draw rd17 feel when two of the lesser teams Olympic take 6 points and Lakes 3 points off Jets teams missing key players.

[Aegon]

Jets treat the NPL competition as a joke, how do you think Charlestown 3-1 loss rd1, Edgy 2-2 draw rd2, Jaffas 3-1 loss rd8 (although Jaffas did get an easy 3 point off them last weekend) and Weston 1-1 draw rd17 feel when two of the lesser teams Olympic take 6 points and Lakes 3 points off Jets teams missing key players.

It's all pointless for the Jets at the end of the day. What are they playing for? Can't make the finals, so zero motivational factor.
Are the rules the same for Wanderers, Sydney FC and Mariners in Football NSW NPL?

[Alton]

It's all pointless for the Jets at the end of the day. What are they playing for? Can't make the finals, so zero motivational factor.
Are the rules the same for Wanderers, Sydney FC and Mariners in Football NSW NPL?
Amateurs running the show NNSW is a disgrace, there is a list of issues a mile long that make this comp a farce

[ForeverRed]

Amateurs running the show NNSW is a disgrace, there is a list of issues a mile long that make this comp a farce
Can you name a few other then the Jets not taking the Comp seriously and having a bye in the highest comp in our region

[Hurricane]

Can you name a few other then the Jets not taking the Comp seriously and having a bye in the highest comp in our region

And still not being able to tell us the make up of the competition for next season

[Bremsstrahlung]

Ffs, how long do they need to determine the competition make up.
Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy back when lakes and azzuri were dumped out in 09, they’ve been making it up as they go.
3 years ago when they reformatted things they should have had an idea what they wanted and made this known to clubs and helped them meet the criteria. Obviously a 2 tier NPL is what they want. It makes sense. Tell clubs where they stand and if clubs know if they are in the bottom 3 or whatever this year, they are may well be relegated.

Keeping the clubs informed stops said clubs being pissed off when the goalposts continually change.

[Aegon]

Ffs, how long do they need to determine the competition make up.
Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy back when lakes and azzuri were dumped out in 09, they’ve been making it up as they go.
3 years ago when they reformatted things they should have had an idea what they wanted and made this known to clubs and helped them meet the criteria. Obviously a 2 tier NPL is what they want. It makes sense. Tell clubs where they stand and if clubs know if they are in the bottom 3 or whatever this year, they are may well be relegated.

Keeping the clubs informed stops said clubs being pissed off when the goalposts continually change.

I listened to the Hunter Football Pod where they had Liam Bentley (operations manager at NNSWF) on and he was talking about the potential structure.

I learnt more in that one conversation that I have ever seen publicized from NNSWF.

[Dontknowmuch]

I listened to the Hunter Football Pod where they had Liam Bentley (operations manager at NNSWF) on and he was talking about the potential structure.

I learnt more in that one conversation that I have ever seen publicized from NNSWF.

6 team comp play each other 4 times. Top 4 teams play finals bottom 2 relegated. Would be some comp. 2nd tier has as many team as they can fit in top team promoted next 4 go into a playoff for promotion (so technically have no finals) in 1st grade comp only all others have normal final series.

[plague]

6 team comp play each other 4 times. Top 4 teams play finals bottom 2 relegated. Would be some comp. 2nd tier has as many team as they can fit in top team promoted next 4 go into a playoff for promotion (so technically have no finals) in 1st grade comp only all others have normal final series.

oh im in for all of this. imagine the stink the first 'entitled' cub will put up when they get the ass.

[Aegon]

Big win for Jaffa’s today.

2-0 against Magic.

Swancott and Bitz were awesome. Virgili was great too, Verity tore his hamstring struggling to keep up with him.

[plague]

Big win for Jaffa’s today.

2-0 against Magic.

Swancott and Bitz were awesome. Virgili was great too, Verity tore his hamstring struggling to keep up with him.

Yeah Swancott made a stunning save in the first half from a goalmouth scrap

Thought Jaffas were poor 1st half, but played a good 30mins of foitball in 2nd half and it was enough.

Magic keepers penalty save was good.

Jaffas finish for their 2nd was something indeed. Quality.

[Alton]

Congrats Edgeworth, your closest friends just handed you the comp

[Hurricane]

Congrats Edgeworth, your closest friends just handed you the comp

Don't get carried away. If Jaffas win their game in hand they will be 2 points behind Edgeworth and play them.in the last round.

[magician]

Maitland 3 Olympic 0
Valo 3 Edgeworth 1
Weston 2 Charlestown 2

[Aegon]

Maitland 3 Olympic 0
Valo 3 Edgeworth 1
Weston 2 Charlestown 2

I doubt anyone could have picked the Valo over Edgy result.

[ForeverRed]

I doubt anyone could have picked the Valo over Edgy result.
Must be hard for NPL teams to play on a community field, laughable really

[Bull fighter]

Must be hard for NPL teams to play on a community field, laughable really
I saw the field last night after it was rolled and mowed and it looked really good, so not really sure what you are on about

[Hurricane]

Don't think you can blame the ground , i was out there and the 2 keeper howlers and the send off for the headbutt are what cost Edgeworth today. The headbutt very unusual for someone from one of Zane's teams, as they are usually very well disciplined

[Alton]

Must be hard for NPL teams to play on a community field, laughable really

It is an absolute embarrassment for the local game and even more to be on tv? I watched their washout against the Buds at Belmont and the ground looked far better the junior ground at Valo. Has anyone ever heard the ground announcer at Valo? Surely there is rules around what and how to announce stuff.

[Beppe]

Now that the season is approaching its end, wondering everyone thoughts on who the top coaches are going around. Who has over achieved with their squads, who are the top tier coaches. Zane is obviously right up there, and Weston seem to have done very well this year.

[W8 WATCHER]

Now that the season is approaching its end, wondering everyone thoughts on who the top coaches are going around. Who has over achieved with their squads, who are the top tier coaches. Zane is obviously right up there, and Weston seem to have done very well this year.

the Next A-league coach for me

[Johnno]

the Next A-league coach for me

In response to the above three threads Valoground is an embarrassment watched game and people watching from afar saying how bad it was not a good promotion for the league. Ground announcing everywhere is poor. As for Coaches top 3.
1. Zane
2. Jaliens
3. Pascoe

All those coaches have developed squads. Can’t come at coaches who just buy players that’s not coaching I especially put Bolch, Zadkovich & Tanchevski in this box.

[onlooker]

In response to the above three threads Valoground is an embarrassment watched game and people watching from afar saying how bad it was not a good promotion for the league. Ground announcing everywhere is poor. As for Coaches top 3.
1. Zane
2. Jaliens
3. Pascoe

All those coaches have developed squads. Can’t come at coaches who just buy players that’s not coaching I especially put Bolch, Zadkovich & Tanchevski in this box.

Surely Pascoe was a typo, he has had one of the best squads for years and has 1 GF win to show for it. I’m hard pressed to figure out who he has developed, there are plenty of names in that squad who have been bought in from other clubs or former jets youth and such. I will admit there are a few names I don’t know in the squad so they maybe some youth developed. Happy to be told I’m wrong, but I have seen him as one of the underachieving coaches for the squad he has had..

[Hurricane]

In response to the above three threads Valoground is an embarrassment watched game and people watching from afar saying how bad it was not a good promotion for the league. Ground announcing everywhere is poor. As for Coaches top 3.
1. Zane
2. Jaliens
3. Pascoe

All those coaches have developed squads. Can’t come at coaches who just buy players that’s not coaching I especially put Bolch, Zadkovich & Tanchevski in this box.

You must have no idea , how can you think Pascoe has developed a squad. Has had the biggest budget in the comp for 5 years .
Do you somehow think he developed Jobe, Griff, Griff, Kanta , Kennedy , Crowley, Remo, Pawiak . Delusional

[Johnno]

You must have no idea , how can you think Pascoe has developed a squad. Has had the biggest budget in the comp for 5 years .
Do you somehow think he developed Jobe, Griff, Griff, Kanta , Kennedy , Crowley, Remo, Pawiak . Delusional

Speaking about this year Hurra no Jobe no Griffs x2 and I may have been around a bit longer than you but talk to Kanta, Remo and Pawiak and ask who developed them at the Jets. As for Kennedy has played one game. You serious can’t put the other three muppets in front of him. Any how’s his 3rd by a bit. What Zaney has continually done and what Kew has done this year put them well in front for coach of the year.

[magician]

Speaking about this year Hurra no Jobe no Griffs x2 and I may have been around a bit longer than you but talk to Kanta, Remo and Pawiak and ask who developed them at the Jets. As for Kennedy has played one game. You serious can’t put the other three muppets in front of him. Any how’s his 3rd by a bit. What Zaney has continually done and what Kew has done this year put them well in front for coach of the year.

Now calling coaches muppets. Someone’s tough behind a computer

[Bremsstrahlung]

Is coach of the year just another minor premiership?

Is the best coach the one that achieved the most points?
Or the coach that improved on previous years?
The one who surpassed expectations?

Imo, if Weston or Edgy or even Maitland win the minor prem surely their coach deserves it?

How many bonus points does Kew get for turning things around at Weston?

[onlooker]

How many bonus points does Kew get for turning things around at Weston?

Kew has done a great job out at Weston and is surely in with a big shout at the coach of the year title. But I think it would be silly to discount the work that Piggott did out there the two previous seasons, giving all the young players a chance without the pressure of relegation. Two seasons in first grade now with Kew’s tactical knowledge it’s a good mix.

[Hurricane]

Plus the half a dozen new signings have helped.
They have recruited well with the additions of Carter , Tien Fooh, Cox, the Wilson brothers. They have a good mix

[Alton]

Surely a 3 game suspension for a headbutt is a delayed April Fools joke right?

[Alton]

Plus the half a dozen new signings have helped.
They have recruited well with the additions of Carter , Tien Fooh, Cox, the Wilson brothers. They have a good mix

Queue up, Jaliens by a mile.

[Stanley]

In response to the above three threads Valoground is an embarrassment watched game and people watching from afar saying how bad it was not a good promotion for the league. Ground announcing everywhere is poor. As for Coaches top 3.
1. Zane
2. Jaliens
3. Pascoe

All those coaches have developed squads. Can’t come at coaches who just buy players that’s not coaching I especially put Bolch, Zadkovich & Tanchevski in this box.

A read a recent Magic program and from memory it had, Piddington at 300 plus games, Bradbury, Griffiths, Hoole, Kantarovski, and Virgilli at between 150 and 250 games for the club, sure players come in every year and that happens at all clubs but I cant see how that is buying players.

[Alton]

Surely a 3 game suspension for a headbutt is a delayed April Fools joke right?

What did Oxenborrow get for his spitting last year? I can't recall but it was more than 3 weeks I think

[Stanley]

Surely a 3 game suspension for a headbutt is a delayed April Fools joke right?

surely deserves more than 3 games, watched it live at the game, a person would get locked up for an assault like that at a pub

[W8 WATCHER]

surely deserves more than 3 games, watched it live at the game, a person would get locked up for an assault like that at a pub

The BMFC legal team are experts in this matter.
Internal review, 1 week suspension then swept under the rug

[Hurricane]

Any results from tonight's 2 matches

[ForeverRed]

Any results from tonight's 2 matches
1 all Jaffa’s v Maitland
Azzurri 3 lakes nil

[Blueboy]

Maitland 4-1 Valo
Hamilton 1-3 magic
Lakes 0-3 Jaffa’s
Jets 1-2 Charlestown.

With Maitland having a easier run home and all teams below them playing each other at some point, it is definitely Maitlands minor premiership too lose.

[Yaa Yaa]

In response to the above three threads Valoground is an embarrassment watched game and people watching from afar saying how bad it was not a good promotion for the league. Ground announcing everywhere is poor. As for Coaches top 3.
1. Zane
2. Jaliens
3. Pascoe

All those coaches have developed squads. Can’t come at coaches who just buy players that’s not coaching I especially put Bolch, Zadkovich & Tanchevski in this box.

Buy players hey lol Most of magic players have been there a long time, ox played with the coach at a lge level and are mates, maj wanted to go back to his boyhood club and hoole where he played before he went to a lge... jalens has a few ex youth players from his time at the jets and it’s been 1 season so relax, hasn’t even made the top 4 yet and you’re talking him up, and Pascoe doesn’t “buy” players 😂😂😂😂 this is a great read...

[magician]

Maitland 3-2
95th minute winner

[Alton]

Congrats to Hamilton Magpies, top of the table

[Hurricane]

Congrats to Hamilton Magpies, top of the table

2 ex Hamilton players in the starting side today Alton, Tom Davies and Grant Brown .

[hamburgler]

2 ex Hamilton players in the starting side today Alton, Tom Davies and Grant Brown .

And 4 others in the squad! Alton has it right! 6 from Olympic. Does Maitland Olynpic offend less?

[Hurricane]

And 4 others in the squad! Alton has it right! 6 from Olympic. Does Maitland Olynpic offend less?

Not offended at all burgler. Good recruiting, all left Olympic not wanted and are now part of a club heading for semi final football . Where are Olympic and the ex jets / mariners youth coming on the table.

[italian stallion]

will northern take action against maitland for their supporters entering the field to celebrate their goals?

[Johnno]

will northern take action against maitland for their supporters entering the field to celebrate their goals?

They definitely should as have previously but I bet you they won’t sorry to say Magpies still have pub league culture even through Winx odds to now win the league.

[Hurricane]

They definitely should as have previously but I bet you they won’t sorry to say Magpies still have pub league culture even through Winx odds to now win the league.

Can you give us any examples of northern taking action against other clubs for supporters entering the field celebrating goals as you state Johnno

[Hurricane]

They definitely should as have previously but I bet you they won’t sorry to say Magpies still have pub league culture even through Winx odds to now win the league.

Johnno and his hatred for Maitland. I am sure their culture is just a touch above pub league Johnno. Have just hosted a great ffa cup leg with nearly 3,000 attending and are currently top of the league. Maybe give the club some credit for where they have gotten to since promotion 5 odd years ago. Here's hoping they go on and win their first premiership in 50 years and silence you

[immersion]

I don't understand why people would care if supporters jump the fence if it didn't hurt or affect anyone. The supporters simply jumped the fence celebrated and jumped back over. I enjoyed watching the players interact with the supporters. It shows the players and supporters care, and it means something to them.

People nitpicking this are the social justice warriors that are screwing around with the world for the littlest thing. Surely we can move on.

[Premy]

They definitely should as have previously but I bet you they won’t sorry to say Magpies still have pub league culture even through Winx odds to now win the league.
What’s wrong with “Pub League Culture”???

Oh and if you think that NNSW NPL isn’t a Pub League with a glorified title then you are a little delusional.

[Aegon]

Olympic 3-0 up against Magic after 21mins.

[plague]

I don't understand why people would care if supporters jump the fence if it didn't hurt or affect anyone.

Jumping the fence is the gateway drug to ripping flares and organised pre-match punch ups.
Think of the children etc etc.

[Goatscheese]

I don't understand why people would care if supporters jump the fence if it didn't hurt or affect anyone. The supporters simply jumped the fence celebrated and jumped back over. I enjoyed watching the players interact with the supporters. It shows the players and supporters care, and it means something to them.

People nitpicking this are the social justice warriors that are screwing around with the world for the littlest thing. Surely we can move on.

If the players are delaying the restart of play (assuming this wasn't at the end of the game), then it slows down play, it shortens time and is a type of time wasting.

Also don't use the term social justice warrior if you don't know what it means. Just makes you look like an old man who heard about the term 2 years after it fell out of fashion.

[Hurricane]

What about all the negativity and haters on here. We have the closest finals race in 20 years. It is great viewing at the moment.
Who would have thought at the start of the year,with 2 rounds remaining , we would see Maitland leading the comp and Magic sitting in 6th, albeit only 5 points off 1st place.
Some huge games in the make up of semi final spots next weekend with Edgeworth players Weston and Lambton playing Charlestown. Loses could miss semis altogether

[Devon Sangas]

Agreed! What an end to a fantastic season!

What's everyone's predictions for the remaining matches and who finishes in the top 4?

[Aegon]

Rd 21
Magic Win vs Jets yth
Maitland Win vs Adamstown
Edgeworth Win vs Weston
Jaffas/ Azzurri Draw

Weston's season is basically on the line vs Edgy this week. Even a draw likely not enough to make the semis.
Jaffas haven't lost at home for who knows how long, can't see them losing at home to Azzurri.
Maitland and Magic to get gimme's

Rd 22
Jaffas Win vs Edgeworth
Maitland Win vs Jets yth
Magic Win vs Azzurri
Weston Win vs Lake Macq

Huge week of games that will decide the final make up.
Edgy will be doing it tough with FFA cup and pressure games. After beating Weston should know they are good for semis without extending themselves too much. Jaffas to pinch a result.
Biggest game though will be at Magic park. Whoever wins this game makes the semi's. A draw is not good enough for either team. Magic to get a result in front of their home crowd.
Maitland and Weston have gimme's

Final table
Maitland 43
Edgeworth 38
Jaffas 38
Magic 38

Weston 37
Azzurri 36

[immersion]

Rd 21
Magic Win vs Jets yth
Maitland Win vs Adamstown
Edgeworth Win vs Weston
Jaffas/ Azzurri Draw

Weston's season is basically on the line vs Edgy this week. Even a draw likely not enough to make the semis.
Jaffas haven't lost at home for who knows how long, can't see them losing at home to Azzurri.
Maitland and Magic to get gimme's

Rd 22
Jaffas Win vs Edgeworth
Maitland Win vs Jets yth
Magic Win vs Azzurri
Weston Win vs Lake Macq

Huge week of games that will decide the final make up.
Edgy will be doing it tough with FFA cup and pressure games. After beating Weston should know they are good for semis without extending themselves too much. Jaffas to pinch a result.
Biggest game though will be at Magic park. Whoever wins this game makes the semi's. A draw is not good enough for either team. Magic to get a result in front of their home crowd.
Maitland and Weston have gimme's

Final table
Maitland 43
Edgeworth 38
Jaffas 38
Magic 38

Weston 37
Azzurri 36

Yeah, I agree with this. The only spanner in the works is the jets yth and what team they put for the final 2 games. they can have a real impact if they put out strong teams.

[Hurricane]

Yeah, I agree with this. The only spanner in the works is the jets yth and what team they put for the final 2 games. they can have a real impact if they put out strong teams.

I don't think they will be overly strong. They play Edgeworth in the ffa cup next Wednesday or the one after, so Langois, Thurgate etc will be with 1st grade you would guess

[Devon Sangas]

Rd 21
Magic Win vs Jets yth
Maitland Win vs Adamstown
Edgeworth Win vs Weston
Jaffas/ Azzurri Draw

Weston's season is basically on the line vs Edgy this week. Even a draw likely not enough to make the semis.
Jaffas haven't lost at home for who knows how long, can't see them losing at home to Azzurri.
Maitland and Magic to get gimme's

Rd 22
Jaffas Win vs Edgeworth
Maitland Win vs Jets yth
Magic Win vs Azzurri
Weston Win vs Lake Macq

Huge week of games that will decide the final make up.
Edgy will be doing it tough with FFA cup and pressure games. After beating Weston should know they are good for semis without extending themselves too much. Jaffas to pinch a result.
Biggest game though will be at Magic park. Whoever wins this game makes the semi's. A draw is not good enough for either team. Magic to get a result in front of their home crowd.
Maitland and Weston have gimme's

Final table
Maitland 43
Edgeworth 38
Jaffas 38
Magic 38

Weston 37
Azzurri 36

Azzurri are at home this weekend I believe?

[onlooker]

https://www.facebook.com/181286935235365/posts/2640987869265247?s=100000278351323&sfns=xmwa

Ten teams again next season
No promotion/relegation
And all teams remain where they are

[howardyou]

https://www.facebook.com/181286935235365/posts/2640987869265247?s=100000278351323&sfns=xmwa

Ten teams again next season
No promotion/relegation
And all teams remain where they are

lol once again. It's happened how many times now with no change.

Oh wait - there is reserve grade now. Good.

[Bull fighter]

https://www.facebook.com/181286935235365/posts/2640987869265247?s=100000278351323&sfns=xmwa

Ten teams again next season
No promotion/relegation
And all teams remain where they are

Fantastic result for everyone except all the naysayers

[Aegon]

Can’t believe after so long of a review they have essentially decided to do nothing.

I feel so sorry for the NL1 teams that went through the effort of applying for the NPL license to be told in the end, thanks, but we’ve decided to leave it as is for a little while.

[Swanky]

So all the NL1 teams that have applied and spent money on and off the pitch are being told by northern that because your fellow clubs that have no desire to become an NPL club you cannot be promoted, ****ing laughable, weak decision by weak people, these clubs need to revolt and stand up and stop being shit on permanently, I wonder if any other club be afforded the luxury by northern if they were undecided on what competition they wanted to compete in or are there special rules for the jets, I’m done,

Nothing was going to change because if Cooks Hill or South Cardiff went up the Northern League 1 would die and NNSW would lose money. Anyone who thought there would be change are deluded. Our governing body just look after their purse and not the code.

[Onyatoes]

Nothing was going to change because if Cooks Hill or South Cardiff went up the Northern League 1 would die and NNSW would lose money. Anyone who thought there would be change are deluded. Our governing body just look after their purse and not the code.
Close Swanky but not 100%. Spot on it is all about revenue for NNSWF with the Jets Youth leaving Speers Point and First Touch Football supplies on life support thanks to Sports Clique. But a second tier could survive without Cooks Hill or South Cardiff. The real point was could an NPL survive with them???? As I mentioned in this forum weeks ago, this was always going to remain as is or at best one promoted up to make 12 with lipstick applied to the pig. The fact that New Lambton turned its back and decided to wait and see was THE spanner that NNSWF didn't expect. Their board got worried why the biggest club with Men and Women's programs and in the middle of an impressive 5 yr promotion plan stopped dead and said no thanks. Cooks Hill didn't have the ground or complete support of its Junior base and South Cardiff, well let's just say that it didn't excite anyone. If New Lambton had their new digs confirmed you can all but guarantee they were up but they looked at what they were going up to and decided to park it. NNSWF NPL is not ready for drastic overhaul because there is no money in a competitive 12 team comp in a population of 450k. The idiots on this forum who claimed it would be NPL 1 and 2 based on the 17 applicants clearly showed that they have no idea. Over time it will evolve and it will change. I was correct before, I will be again. Newcastle Council will ruffle a few nests come September and grounds will be shared. That will be the first step. Then the WPL will get some much needed focus whether the football dinosaurs locally like it or not and NL1 clubs deluded enough to think that they could go up need to change some structure, mend some reputations and follow some governance procedures. If I was a club looking to take the next step I would watch what New Lambton did and what they are doing now since they said no thanks. They remain a step ahead of NNSWF. Eland knows it.

[howardyou]

Absolute dribble, New Lambton among others are the reason why clubs are being held back, they have stuffed it for everyone, they carry on like a well dressed hoare but have very little underneath, the free rides they have been afforded came to a halt and they weren’t prepared to put in the hard work, very thin skinned

Please explain further FR. New Lambton seem to have everything but a ground.

[Alton]

Ahhhhh a ground is fairly important!!!!!!!

[Onyatoes]

Absolute dribble, New Lambton among others are the reason why clubs are being held back, they have stuffed it for everyone, they carry on like a well dressed hoare but have very little underneath, the free rides they have been afforded came to a halt and they weren’t prepared to put in the hard work, very thin skinnedI appreciate the anger but maybe direct it at the clubs who have been around for longer than New Lambton in the second tier who didn't apply or maybe those that did apply from the second tier and NPL but obviously put their submission on toilet paper wiped their arses with it and submitted with fingers crossed. Translate Elands response. The submissions were underwhelming. The well dressed whore (check your spelling Einstein) that you mention might be a little too high class than to work the streets with the crack heads that exist now? Really Forever Red (don't tell me you are scouse red), it is lemons like you that has football in this region in the position that it is in. Limited fact. Low on intellect and really a waste of everyone's time. Wait for the change and embrace it or limp away and follow Hockey or something.

[ForeverRed]

You seriously have no idea, poor thing zero response to zero knowledge,

[Dontknowmuch]

Absolute dribble, New Lambton among others are the reason why clubs are being held back, they have stuffed it for everyone, they carry on like a well dressed hoare but have very little underneath, the free rides they have been afforded came to a halt and they weren’t prepared to put in the hard work, very thin skinned

Agree absoute dribble from someone with no idea. To think that New Lambton pulling out threw a spanner in the works is laughable, I dont think anyone were counting on them be ready to go to NPL. How a club like Valentine can be considered a better option than Cooks Hill (using No.2 as there ground) is beyond me. What more does a club have to do in Cooks Hills case and how far can a club go backwards without getting dropped in Valentines case. These answers we will never find out. It looks like who ever did the creative writing for Valentines application needs to hired by Cooks Hill because it sounds like only the info put in that application counted.

[Hunter403]

Love this line
"This includes placing promotion and relegation between the NPL NNSW and Northern League One (NL1) on hold until there are enough clubs participating in NL1 that are adjudged to be operating at a level commensurate with the incumbent NPL clubs."

Operating at a level commensurate with incumbent NPL clubs? Really? From what I have seen there are a few NEWFM clubs that are far better run and organised than some of the NPL clubs. I'd love to know how that metric was assessed!

I'd love to know what more Cookers can do (ground aside).

[Ruud Van Nistelrooys Chin]

David Eland is an incompetent oaf. Got sacked once for it, and then got reinstated somehow. A faceless character who is never anywhere to be found when disciplinary action is required against ill behaved clubs and officials - and always the first person to poke his head up when there is a photo op in The Herald for the women’s league or some other junket. Why do we have to fork out $150k plus for this ceremonial position? It’s always “the board said” or “the board decided”. Perhaps get rid of the CEO, save the wage and let the board make the decisions.

[Alton]

NNSW have shown again for the umpteeth time they have no idea, if they watched, listened,inspected,undertook due diligence this season and asked key people, they would have dropped two current clubs. They are disrespecting the competition with their decisions and that’s not saying any club is good enough to come up because I don’t think any of them are worthy. An 8 team comp with 3 rounds until NL1 clubs are ready for promotion and before everyone starts, Magic and Olympic built up from the lower divisions!!!

[Onyatoes]

Agree absoute dribble from someone with no idea. To think that New Lambton pulling out threw a spanner in the works is laughable, I dont think anyone were counting on them be ready to go to NPL. How a club like Valentine can be considered a better option than Cooks Hill (using No.2 as there ground) is beyond me. What more does a club have to do in Cooks Hills case and how far can a club go backwards without getting dropped in Valentines case. These answers we will never find out. It looks like who ever did the creative writing for Valentines application needs to hired by Cooks Hill because it sounds like only the info put in that application counted.
Cooks Hill at No 2? Now that is dribble. I wish it would be the case and agree they deserve to go up at some stage if Valentine get the nod but why would Wanderers Rugby and the NRU as a 40% stakeholder of that facility let a football club gain FT tenancy? Unlike most NPL clubs the leather patch boys paid for the upgrade so they have precedence to use. Don't know much indeed. Jets W League at extravagant fees suits them fine in Summer at No 2...Unfortunately like most things in this forum, just like the myriad of tripe that flowed about NPL 1 and 2 in June, no one really knows aside from David Eland and his board. Consider this though. He announces his all new NNSW NPL in September. Fanfare, promo. Here it is folks...... The best ground is........ Magic Park. I rest my case. We sit somewhere behind Football Tasmania and in front of The Northern Territory based on facilities and probably overall quality (albeit South Australia I am told is not great quality). Yes it is NNSWFs fault, asleep at the wheel under Alan Nisbetts reign for 20 years and as Nisbett saved Elands job, he sat back and watched this transpire. Some work to do to recover. New clubs or old / new with smart operators, co gender across all and hopefully a trek further into somewhere North of Hexham for new teams like Coffs and Port. God forbid....mergers? Kahibah Azzurri? Valentine Lakes? Edgeworth/Westy. Let's see if he is smart enough or ballsy enough to do it.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I don’t really understand.
I hope the feedback they give clubs is more detailed and constructive. As a NL1 team or any club hoping to one day be promoted, the last 10 years would tell you you’re chances are slim.
There has been adequate time for NL1 teams to improve their clubs and meet the criteria they have failed to meet previously. Are the goalposts moving? You can’t tell me clubs that have ambition, that have been knocked back previously like Southy and forum faves cooks hill, haven’t improved and made efforts to meet criteria. There’s probably Other clubs too.
I don’t think there needs to be a NPL2 next season. I can live with that.
I can live with no promotion or relegation this year.
I think they should have granted clubs NPL licenses if they met criteria. They play in NL1 and if they win the competition they get promoted and a team gets relegated. If they don’t, there’s no promotion.

South Cardiff were and NPL club. They were once deemed better equipped that Azzurri and Lakes. Why not now?

I think lack of forward planning in NNSW is the biggest issue. Clubs are told again, we keeping things the same for 12 months.... then what? All clubs apply again in April and we go through this all again?

I hope they are transparent with clubs and say, if you do x,y and z you’ll get a license.

For all the work Valo are doing trying to improve CB complex, they have been sub par for years now. Their on field performances are terrible and they show very little ambition. Lakes and Adamstown aren’t too far behind.
I hope it allows them safety to improve in a sustainable way. But rewarding this mediocrity and settling seems backwards.

Maitland were in 2nd division a few seasons ago and look where they are now? A club showed ambition.

[Retired01]

My opinion is that the league needs to move West to survive. Look at where the housing market is expanding. Cameron Park, West Wallsend, Minmi, Cessnock, Maitland. I agree the clubs in those areas aren't there yet but they once were so why wouldn't the Federation provide assistance to harness the growing populations. The Inner city clubs MAY start to struggle with a junior base in years to come because young families wont be able to afford to buy in town. Its an aging age bracket in there. NewLambton and Cookes Hill is right on top of Adamstown, Hamilton, Broadmeadow. So why try to squeeze more out of the sponge which is already dry?

Heres an option. federation provide 1 person which works amongst and interacts with those new communities to learn and ACTUALLY understand what the young familes want. Work with clubs, federation and councils. Including super, insurance I estimate that could be $100K outlay per year.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I see the sentiment, but west Wallsend, Cessnock and Maitland are all represented in the top 2 leagues. Players will always go wherever they want to play at their level. If Adamstown got relegated, their best players would find other NPL clubs. The top 100-150 players will always be In NPL, their shirt just changes. Bar the loyal Azzurri, Lakes and Southy players that stuck around to try and get immediate promotion, the best players always move on regardless of what clubs.

The sooner we get promotion and relegation between tiers, the better.
I’m all for escalating criteria.
Give ambitious clubs opportunity.
If we get to a point where NPL1 and their NL1 2nd division has 4-5 really competitive teams, then change things.
Give licenses as teams meet the criteria. Let NPL licensed clubs play in NL1 until they earn promotion.

The bottom NPL clubs have nothing to worry about and no encouragement or consequences for turning in sub-NPL performances on and off the pitch.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

As a whole, people going club v club and getting personal on here is not particularly helpful for anyone.
In terms of frustration from Southy (ie/ FR) I understand it and recognise the passion, but to lay the blame at other clubs isn't particularly fair IMO.
Of course Northern were never going to increase NPL and cut the rest of the NEWFM teams loose, there is too much money in it for them to do that.
In terms of some clubs being 'held back by the rest' I would think that Northern could easily find solution's to the dilemma of only a few applications from NEWFM. Pretty simple really:

#1- make NPL 12 team with best 2 NEWFM applications going up
#2- If they were going to keep as is, offer promotion and relegation, but only to the NEWFM teams that have applied and meet criteria (and then if they earn it by winning the league). That way, if Southy and Cookers et al perform and also meet criteria, they have earnt the spot.

[Devon Sangas]

Back to the football.

Predictions for the weekend?

Edgey vs Weston is a huge game both need a result to stay alive.

Azzurri vs Lambton another huge game both sides with plenty of injuries.

Top 4 could be potentially decided this weekend!

[magician]

Maitland 3 buds 0
Valentine 0 lakes 0
Charlestown 0 Jaffas 0

Makes it a very interesting last round

[Devon Sangas]

Maitland 3 buds 0
Valentine 0 lakes 0
Charlestown 0 Jaffas 0

Makes it a very interesting last round

Going down to the wire for sure.

What teams deserve to finish in the top 4?

With the amount of injuries and suspensions both Jaffas and Azzurri have had this season. I believe they deserve to finish in the top 4.

Cracking games to look forward to this weekend nonetheless.

[Stanley]

Going down to the wire for sure.

What teams deserve to finish in the top 4?

With the amount of injuries and suspensions both Jaffas and Azzurri have had this season. I believe they deserve to finish in the top 4.

Cracking games to look forward to this weekend nonetheless.

Is it true all games will be at 2:30pm on Sunday, if so, finally NNSW have got something right

[Alton]

Adamstown have got through this forum relatively unscathed, thoughts on them and where they are headed? I think it reinforces too many inner city teams too close together.

[Stanley]

Adamstown have got through this forum relatively unscathed, thoughts on them and where they are headed? I think it reinforces too many inner city teams too close together.

Merger with New Lambton on the cards

[Alton]

Merger with New Lambton on the cards

Settle down Stan this is too smart and obvious for anyone at headquarters to suggest, they want NL in so here is a leg up, they would want AR to survive so here is the solution.

[Devon Sangas]

Is it true all games will be at 2:30pm on Sunday, if so, finally NNSW have got something right

I believe so, all games to kick off at 2:30.

I wonder what match they will feature on BarTv this round?

[Alton]

I believe so, all games to kick off at 2:30.

I wonder what match they will feature on BarTv this round?

Us and the Jets surely !!

[Hurricane]

I believe so, all games to kick off at 2:30.


I wonder what match they will feature on BarTv this round?

I guarantee it will be either the Edgeworth or Magic game as they are the favourites of northern and bartv

[Lofty]

I guarantee it will be either the Edgeworth or Magic game as they are the favourites of northern and bartv

Put the knives away. BarTV are doing a special coverage for all games :thumbsup:

[Hurricane]

Put the knives away. BarTV are doing a special coverage for all games :thumbsup:

Yes they cover all games every weekend Lofty. But only one game will be covered with commentary by Ben , C.T and Damo , and i guarantee you it will be either the Edgeworth or Magic game.

[Onyatoes]

Settle down Stan this is too smart and obvious for anyone at headquarters to suggest, they want NL in so here is a leg up, they would want AR to survive so here is the solution. Believe it or not this has been floated before. Buds and New Lambton. Jaffas and New Lambton. In the latter case, it went some way apparently but fell over at Board level when Jaffas saw it as an option for New Lambton to manage their Juniors. The Eagles politely said go away. The Jaffas now simply poach the juniors as the spies saw their youth coaching dynamoes lurking at Alder Park as recently as yesterday. Mergers though don't need to be club into club. I agree with the post about a focus on the urban mortgage belt out west and Westy and Cessnock should step forward and clean up their act and build a super Westy from the ground up. In town, Council and Northern need to enforce ground sharing so NPL clubs instantly gain relevance with a bigger footprint for grants and sponsorship. Newcastle needs a No 2 sportsground for football. Artificial and shared by 2 clubs as co tenants and hired 364 days a year (give them Chrissy off). Inter and AC Milan share the San Siro. It works and commercially it is much more attractive. Maybe Buds and New Lambton share Rosebuds or God forbid The Eagles rumours about a return to Arthur Edden are true? Mergers yes but a merger of collective interest is more likely than clubs. Some lateral thinking on this forum....nice.

[Hunter403]

The Jaffas now simply poach the juniors as the spies saw their youth coaching dynamoes lurking at Alder Park as recently as yesterday. Mergers though don't need to be club into club.

Yep, a Jaffas youth coach was there...but not looking at any New Lambton players.
Your use of "poach" suggests you disagree with NPL clubs trying to identify and improve the local kids. Do you think it not right to identify talent and bring it to the next level? Many lower tier clubs are happy to push their stronger players up to the next level to improve for the benefit of the kids. Many are not and are keen to hang on to their better players for the benefit of their club. The NEWFM team I currently coach has had multiple visits from NPL clubs scouting. I welcome it and help if I can. If one of my players can go up to the next level, I'm pleased. It's about developing the players. Do you think NEWFM clubs aren't out looking at community A grade teams? Are they "poaching"? If you are suggesting it is inappropriate , then you are losing sight of the objective which is to produce better players.

All the NPL clubs do it, and good on them! It would be disappointing if they didn't.

[YewYew]

The NEWFM team I currently coach has had multiple visits from NPL clubs scouting. I welcome it and help if I can. If one of my players can go up to the next level, I'm pleased. It's about developing the players.

Great attitude. What it’s all about. What club/age do you coach if you don’t mind me asking? I’d love to have some of the kids in my team progress under a coach with your outlook.

What ages do NPL clubs scout? Are talking 12s, or younger?

[Hurricane]

Weekend tips
Maitland 3-1 Jets
Edgy 1-1 Jaffas
Weston 3-0 Lakes
Magic 2-2 Azzurri
Valentine 2-1 Hamilton

[Devon Sangas]

Weekend tips
Maitland 3-1 Jets
Edgy 1-1 Jaffas
Weston 3-0 Lakes
Magic 2-2 Azzurri
Valentine 2-1 Hamilton

Maitland 2-0 Jets
Edgey 2-2 Lambton
Weston 2-1 Lakes
Magic 1-2 Azzurri
Valo 3-2 Olympic

[Alton]

Maitland 2-0 Jets
Edgey 2-2 Lambton
Weston 2-1 Lakes
Magic 1-2 Azzurri
Valo 3-2 Olympic

Maitland 1-0 Jets
Edgey 1-2 Lambton
Weston 4-0 Lakes
Magic 1-0 Azzurri
Valo 1-5 Olympic

[Aegon]

Jaffas 2 - 1 Edgeworth
Maitland 4 - 0 Jets yth
Magic 3 - 1 Azzurri
Weston 4 - 2 Lake Macq
Valo 2-2 Olympic

[Blueboy]

Jaffas 1-1 edgy
Maitland 3-0 jets
Magic 3-0 Charlestown
Weston 3-1 lakes
Valentine 1-1 Olympic

[Captain_Carl]

Jaffas 1-2 Edgy
Maitland 3-1 Jets
Magic 2-2 Charlestown
Weston 3-1 Lakes
Valentine 2-1 Olympic

[Goatscheese]

Settle down Stan this is too smart and obvious for anyone at headquarters to suggest, they want NL in so here is a leg up, they would want AR to survive so here is the solution.

Who said they want NL in? And why would they merge the two teams? And as though AR would agree to it

[Goatscheese]

Maybe Buds and New Lambton share Rosebuds.

The council would have to force that, they don't even like the idea of having to share the ground with ARJFC for WPL matches

[Hunter403]

Great attitude. What it’s all about. What club/age do you coach if you don’t mind me asking? I’d love to have some of the kids in my team progress under a coach with your outlook.

What ages do NPL clubs scout? Are talking 12s, or younger?

I coach under 15s this year but I'd rather keep the club to myself or PM me if you like (if I can figure out how to find those)

I can't speak for all clubs, but I think, from what I have seen and heard that most u13 NPL players for next season will come out of current NET or SAP programmes. Over the next few years, that will likely become primarily SAP from within the club. There will still be a few from non SAP / NET teams that will get in at trials, if the NPL club runs any but I think that SAP will be the main source.

As the kids get older it would appear that clubs identify weaknesses in squads and either scout other NPL teams or NEWFM or offer end of season trials. Some clubs vet their trialists beforehand (Olympic for example) and some have open trials. From what I have seen with my son playing NPL over the last few years, is that most clubs show loyalty and remove players only if a better one is available (after all some kids are late developers and some clubs will hang on in the hope that the kid will progress). On the other hand, I have watched Charlestown essentially gut their current under 16 team each year from under 13 on to no avail.

It is also noticeable that the leap from NEWFM or community league is far harder the older the kids get. For example. I'd say the chances of significant numbers of NEWFM players from u15s this year moving to NPL u16s next year is small. There will be a few, but not many. More likely kids will move from one NPL club to another. The younger the kids are the more likely a move will be.

Each club goes about it their own way but you can bet that they all have their eyes open, maybe not in the same direction, but they are watching.

[plague]

but I think that SAP will be the main source.

which is gonna be a problem for a couple of non-NPL clubs who are embracing and doing really well with SAP.
With no NPL to aspire to, theres def gonna be one club who are gonna lose a lot of their SAP kids to NPL teams once they are available, and im not sure what the club can do about it (other than get into NPL by then but that aint happening).