2024 Zone League 1

[Lofty]

Why not have ZL3 and ZL2 on the Saturday.

Kickoff times: 9, 11, 1, 3 and 5?

Then ZL1 on the Sunday

Are you going to host that grand final and be at the ground from 7am until 8pm? lol

[Jardelsimage]

Are you going to host that grand final and be at the ground from 7am until 8pm? lol

time and half for the 1st 3, then double bubble....12+ hours no thanks

[Lofty]

Yeah I don't quite get the idea behind having ZL2 and ZL3 at the one ground. Not sure there's many, if any spectators that want to watch two games at the one time. Pretty hard to do really.

[anfield]

Why not have ZL3 and ZL2 on the Saturday.

Kickoff times: 9, 11, 1, 3 and 5?

Then ZL1 on the Sunday

Senior football GF at 9? No thanks

[northern_swan]

Senior football GF at 9? No thanks

Imagine the state of the players from the 9am fixture after the last game :pissup:

[Zonal Marking]

Why not have ZL3 and ZL2 on the Saturday.

Kickoff times: 9, 11, 1, 3 and 5?

Then ZL1 on the Sunday

I have heard some bad ideas thrown around on this forum. Heck I have put a few forward myself. This however has to be one of the worst takes I have ever seen.

Terrible idea

[Jardelsimage]

I have heard some bad ideas thrown around on this forum. Heck I have put a few forward myself. This however has to be one of the worst takes I have ever seen.

:thumbsup:

[Jardelsimage]

Minmi v Westlakes is off

Azzuri v Mayfield would be in doubt???

[Alton]

Minmi v Westlakes is off

Azzuri v Mayfield would be in doubt???

This is ridiculous there needs to be an investigation

[The Hacker]

Minmi v Westlakes is off

Azzuri v Mayfield would be in doubt???

Minmi and westlakes im guessing share points or something that won?t get played

Azzurri would want to get on or they will have a busy week

[straightred88]

Minmi v Westlakes is off

Azzuri v Mayfield would be in doubt???

Clubs taking the piss

[Nou Camp]

Suns vs Cardiff is on

[Lofty]

Suns v Cardiff

Thirds 4-1
Ressies 3-3
Firsts 6-2

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

Suns v Cardiff

Thirds 4-1
Ressies 3-3
Firsts 6-2

Wow, big flex in first grade.

Any news from Uni v Kotara?

[Jardelsimage]

Wow, big flex in first grade.

Any news from Uni v Kotara?

kotara won 3-1 ???

[Zonal Marking]

Wow, big flex in first grade.

Any news from Uni v Kotara?

Even with that Westlakes forfeit fully downloaded it looks like Cardiff are on track to bottle a finals place. Has anyone checked on the well-being of Vincent?

[Vincent]

Even with that Westlakes forfeit fully downloaded it looks like Cardiff are on track to bottle a finals place. Has anyone checked on the well-being of Vincent?

You were pretty quiet when Cardiff beat warners bay and kotara convincingly. Today, Suns just too good.

But going from bottom of table last year to your prediction of bottling semis this year. Guess the boys can take that as a complement of progression after they been written off early in the year, so thanks for that champion

[straightred88]

You were pretty quiet when Cardiff beat warners bay and kotara convincingly. Today, Suns just too good.

But going from bottom of table last year to your prediction of bottling semis this year. Guess the boys can take that as a complement of progression after they been written off early in the year, so thanks for that champion

Money well spent you reckon?

[ForeverRed]

Money well spent you reckon?
Lol

[Jardelsimage]

You still crying on a Stewarts shoulder ?
Time to change your name to foreverasook.

whats a "Stewarts shoulder"???

[GO AWAY]

whats a "Stewarts shoulder"???

Poor form if he means what I think he means.

[ForeverRed]

Poor form if he means what I think he means.
You are bang on go away, maybe a few of his mates might like yo have a chat with him

[ForeverRed]

You still crying on a Stewarts shoulder ?
Time to change your name to foreverasook.
I?d be very careful if I was you

[ForeverRed]

You still crying on a Stewarts shoulder ?
Time to change your name to foreverasook.

For those that aren?t aware, straight88 is referring to a deceased relative of mine, I don?t understand why, it?s not the first time either, if admin could delete this person permanently that would be great, its disgusting, my relatives are aware and are looking at legal action against this person

[straightred88]

For those that aren?t aware, straight88 is referring to a deceased relative of mine, I don?t understand why, it?s not the first time either, if admin could delete this person permanently that would be great, its disgusting, my relatives are aware and are looking at legal action against this person

No I am not stop making things up.

[straightred88]

I?d be very careful if I was you

No need for threats just because you don?t like someone?s opinion.

[Jardelsimage]

No I am not stop making things up.

well answer my question then, that would clear it up quick smart..

[straightred88]

well answer my question then, that would clear it up quick smart..

Nothing to clear up. I know what I meant and that?s all that counts. You blokes can think want you want doesn?t bother me.

Forever wants to keep being a troll for my opinion which was Probly 6 months ago which he didn?t like. Instead of moving on he wants to keep going and bringing it up and I?m happy to oblige if he wants to.

All he has to do is ignore my posts but he as I said he trolls me so I respond coz it annoys him.

Simple solution Forever - don?t ever reply to me and I won?t in return.

Cya later

[ForeverRed]

Nothing to clear up. I know what I meant and that?s all that counts. You blokes can think want you want doesn?t bother me.

Forever wants to keep being a troll for my opinion which was Probly 6 months ago which he didn?t like. Instead of moving on he wants to keep going and bringing it up and I?m happy to oblige if he wants to.

All he has to do is ignore my posts but he as I said he trolls me so I respond coz it annoys him.

Simple solution Forever - don?t ever reply to me and I won?t in return.

Cya later
You?re a strange person, trying to defend your actions makes it even worse, you?re disgusting

[straightred88]

You?re a strange person, trying to defend your actions makes it even worse, you?re disgusting

Like I said you think what you want doesn?t bother me.

Don?t bother replying as I can?t be bothered going around in circles with you.

Cya

[ForeverRed]

Like I said you think what you want doesn?t bother me.

Don?t bother replying as I can?t be bothered going around in circles with you.

Cya
lol

[magician]

Like I said you think what you want doesn?t bother me.

Don?t bother replying as I can?t be bothered going around in circles with you.

Cya

You are a dead set flog. It?s exactly what you were taking about.
Oxygen thief

[straightred88]

You are a dead set flog. It?s exactly what you were taking about.
Oxygen thief

Thank you :)

[Toaf]

Please and thankyou give yourself a *straight red*

[Hendo2612]

Clubs taking the pissMinmi had 20mm of rain on Wednesday, then rained all day Thursday and Friday.
There was still water laying on the field this morning, so we are hardly taking the piss.

[The Postman]

Still seems to be plenty of wash out games yet to play. What is the Federation rules when re-playing games this late in the season? or is this season something of an outlier, I believe some clubs have 3 games to play still!

I did hear from a Minmi local that a bunch of blokes in purple shirts were seen doing a rain dance on their oval Wednesday night, seems to have done the trick!

[Alton]

Still seems to be plenty of wash out games yet to play. What is the Federation rules when re-playing games this late in the season? or is this season something of an outlier, I believe some clubs have 3 games to play still!

I did hear from a Minmi local that a bunch of blokes in purple shirts were seen doing a rain dance on their oval Wednesday night, seems to have done the trick!

There should be rounds early in the season on a Wednesday night when weather is better to get ahead

[The Postman]

There should be rounds early in the season on a Wednesday night when weather is better to get ahead

Fair idea! The mid-week before the Easter break would be a great spot.

[Lofty]

There should be rounds early in the season on a Wednesday night when weather is better to get ahead

It was a pretty extraordinary year with the wet weather. A lot was bad luck too, it would be good weather all week and flog down on a Friday night.
I feel clubs could have been less behind with fixtures if there was a bit more common-sense and leniency around the whole idea of not one grade out, all grades out. There were opportunities to cancel lower grades in the aim of getting one game on. The difference it makes for clubs being able to reschedule washouts over one night instead of two nights is massive. It's certainly telling now at this point of the season.

Should just be a 10 team comp with a spare weekend anyway.

[ForeverRed]

Fair idea! The mid-week before the Easter break would be a great spot.
Could play at Easter also

[The Postman]

It was a pretty extraordinary year with the wet weather. A lot was bad luck too, it would be good weather all week and flog down on a Friday night.
I feel clubs could have been less behind with fixtures if there was a bit more common-sense and leniency around the whole idea of not one grade out, all grades out. There were opportunities to cancel lower grades in the aim of getting one game on. The difference it makes for clubs being able to reschedule washouts over one night instead of two nights is massive. It's certainly telling now at this point of the season.

Should just be a 10 team comp with a spare weekend anyway.

With only 1st Grade and Ressies to reschedule washouts on just 1 night...

[Lofty]

With only 1st Grade and Ressies to reschedule washouts on just 1 night...

I just think there are circumstances where the administrators need to be flexible. We've had days where only lower grades got on, but there's been a couple of times where it rained heavily the Friday and then Saturday was good weather. Pitch wasn't ready for games at 11am, but waiting a few hours and playing one grade would have been an option. Whether its one or two games getting on, it's a massive help. NPL do it regularly.

[northern_swan]

I just think there are circumstances where the administrators need to be flexible.

This almost never happens within the MF, NF & HVF hierachy. The comp management this year is the worst i've seen it. For the amount of money we fork out in affiliation fees, we deserve better from MiniRoos to ZL and everything in between.

[Alton]

This almost never happens within the MF, NF & HVF hierachy. The comp management this year is the worst i've seen it. For the amount of money we fork out in affiliation fees, we deserve better from MiniRoos to ZL and everything in between.

Amateurs who used to run junior clubs

[jessepinkman]

Amateurs who used to run junior clubs

Salton

[Jardelsimage]

I just think there are circumstances where the administrators need to be flexible. We've had days where only lower grades got on, but there's been a couple of times where it rained heavily the Friday and then Saturday was good weather. Pitch wasn't ready for games at 11am, but waiting a few hours and playing one grade would have been an option. Whether its one or two games getting on, it's a massive help. NPL do it regularly.

Agree and that exact scenario was put forward but knocked back earlier in the year.

[Jardelsimage]

any results from last night???

[Lofty]

Suns v Azzurri
Ressies 4-2
Thirds 1-0

[Jardelsimage]

When is the Kotara v Warners Bay game being played?

[ForeverRed]

Are the semis top 5 or 4 in zone league one

[YerMate]

Are the semis top 5 or 4 in zone league one

Its Top 5

[WWFC25]

Warners Bay vs Westlakes
Thirds 2-0
Res 5-1

[ForeverRed]

Its Top 5

Cheers

[ZLWB]

From today?s local rag
https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/8735771/northern-nsw-clubs-debate-return-of-under-18s-to-senior-fixtures/?cs=305&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0W63ihWI00UHNkT_Hx_U45o BOQyrS-Kdsv5rzHpx1QWQM6ns7Z1JLbRJs_aem_Uj9AwcaDs15ySf5HgI RezQ

[Taffy]

Wonder if Suns and Dudley have been told they will need to now form an U18s team next year when one of them goes up

[ForeverRed]

Wonder if Suns and Dudley have been told they will need to now form an U18s team next year when one of them goes up
Incorrect, the opposition will play existing u18 teams when & if they play one of the two teams mentioned.

[Taffy]

That's not what has been proposed and wouldn't work anyway, as the existing 18s team for the other team will also have a game that weekend. Seems like there will be a few more byes in 18s if clubs aren't required to get an 18s though.

[GO AWAY]

That's not what has been proposed and wouldn't work anyway, as the existing 18s team for the other team will also have a game that weekend. Seems like there will be a few more byes in 18s if clubs aren't required to get an 18s though.
Bit naive regarding club relations, but couldn?t suns draw on a magic 18s trial group ie magic send a ? 2nd ? selected group to play at suns 18s and similar at Dudley, could they draw on another NPL second 18 team. As I say not sure if this is possible regarding relationships.

[Jardelsimage]

When is the Kotara v Warners Bay game being played?

Kotara 3rds have 3 games to catch up on Dudley on Saturday.
Westlakes on Tuesday?
Uni ????? this game has not been set yet, when and how are they going to play this game, wouldn't it be best to play Uni on the Tuesday as both teams are involved in the finals race?

[The Hacker]

Kotara 3rds have 3 games to catch up on Dudley on Saturday.
Westlakes on Tuesday?
Uni ????? this game has not been set yet, when and how are they going to play this game, wouldn't it be best to play Uni on the Tuesday as both teams are involved in the finals race?

Surely first grade teams don?t want to be playing a midweek game prior to semis. I would want to hope that Kotara and Uni aren?t waiting to see the results from the weekend before deciding ?if? they should/need to play the game. There are scenarios where if result go a certain way if they take a draw Cardiff would miss out on the Semis. That would be an absolute disgrace if let happen

As for 3rds in what world are Westlakes playing a midweek game after the season. You have trouble getting them to play on a Saturday.

Federation is playing with fire letting games occur after the final day of the season

[Taffy]

Azzurri and Mayfield are still playing next Monday, I can understand Reserves playing as they can still make finals, but why bother with the other two? Just call it a draw and end it, neither can make finals or be relegated.

3rds is a tricky one and would be unfair to Cardiff. In firsts Kotara also still has to play Warners Bay, and they could mean the difference in the finals as well

[Zonal Marking]

According to Squadi, Westlakes Reserves and 3rds have forfeited the games against Kotara next week.

Azzurri and Mayfield are still playing next Monday, I can understand Reserves playing as they can still make finals, but why bother with the other two? Just call it a draw and end it, neither can make finals or be relegated.

3rds is a tricky one and would be unfair to Cardiff. In firsts Kotara also still has to play Warners Bay, and they could mean the difference in the finals as well

So Westlakes are just going to hand Kotara an easy 3 points in a tight finals race in Res & 3rd? Poor form especially since according to squadi they managed to field teams against Warners Bay in all 3 grades for this weeks midweek fixtures.

This competition really needs to go back to being 10 teams.

[Taffy]

Squadi has now been updated to classify these two games as 0-0 draws not forfeits now. Potentially the admin got it wrong, I will now edit my above post to reflect.

I wonder if Kotara are happy with that since it is a tight finals race or have they been told they need to accept the draw.

[Zonal Marking]

Squadi has now been updated to classify these two games as 0-0 draws not forfeits now. Potentially the admin got it wrong, I will now edit my above post to reflect.

I wonder if Kotara are happy with that since it is a tight finals race or have they been told they need to accept the draw.

They would have every right to be upset especially if it is an away match but they cant just be handed 3 points when everything is so close either. It might not be easy however if they have 3 matches left they are going to have to play Tues & Thurs next week.

It sucks but unfortunately with the weather this year this is what it has come down to.

[NewHere]

They would have every right to be upset especially if it is an away match but they cant just be handed 3 points when everything is so close either. It might not be easy however if they have 3 matches left they are going to have to play Tues & Thurs next week.

It sucks but unfortunately with the weather this year this is what it has come down to.

If I was Kotara, I would play the already scheduled Westlakes game. No disrespect to Westlakes but surely 3 points (Westlakes form in last 5 shows best results of forfeit given by Minmi and 2-0 loss to Warners Bay, worst result is 10-0 loss to Dudley). Then if there is no time to get games played, take a point against Uni. That leaves Warners Bay and Cardiff with one game in hand only able to match them on the points table for 5th, but a mile off with goal difference. Surely Kotara's hand being forced here. It's a Round 6 game, one would suspect ample opportunity to have got this on.

[Zonal Marking]

If I was Kotara, I would play the already scheduled Westlakes game. No disrespect to Westlakes but surely 3 points (Westlakes form in last 5 shows best results of forfeit given by Minmi and 2-0 loss to Warners Bay, worst result is 10-0 loss to Dudley). Then if there is no time to get games played, take a point against Uni. That leaves Warners Bay and Cardiff with one game in hand only able to match them on the points table for 5th, but a mile off with goal difference. Surely Kotara's hand being forced here. It's a Round 6 game, one would suspect ample opportunity to have got this on.

They should have to play both games. Yes they will in all likelihood beat Westlakes but if they play that match that probably gives uni a better chance of beating them in their other fixture and is what Cardiff & Wbay will be hoping for.

A Westlakes forfeit allows Kotara to put all their energy into the Uni game which they will most likely win and lock up a finals spot.

[Jardelsimage]

They should have to play both games. Yes they will in all likelihood beat Westlakes but if they play that match that probably gives uni a better chance of beating them in their other fixture and is what Cardiff & Wbay will be hoping for.

A Westlakes forfeit allows Kotara to put all their energy into the Uni game which they will most likely win and lock up a finals spot.

the hard part to take in is the Westlakes game was Rd6 and Uni was Rd10.
They keep saying you have 2 weeks to organize and 2 weeks to play.
I know rain/weather happened but Rd6???
this should have been looked at by the powers that be and organized earlier, making games happen especially if it involves teams that could be semi bound.

[WWFC25]

the hard part to take in is the Westlakes game was Rd6 and Uni was Rd10.
They keep saying you have 2 weeks to organize and 2 weeks to play.
I know rain/weather happened but Rd6???
this should have been looked at by the powers that be and organized earlier, making games happen especially if it involves teams that could be semi bound.

We would love it done as well especially with a Minmi catchup that I?m sure both us cellar dwellers would love to catchup.

The Ressies and Thirds Rd 6 catchup for us was originally washed out then washed out again at which point poor Kotara had every weekend and midweek booked out with catchups until this extra week they have created at the end of the season.

No idea what is going on with Sqaudi but we haven?t been told anything about forfeits or why it?s a 0-0 draw from earlier today.

I will just let the association keep me guessing until we hear otherwise.

[prawnhead]

the hard part to take in is the Westlakes game was Rd6 and Uni was Rd10.
They keep saying you have 2 weeks to organize and 2 weeks to play.
I know rain/weather happened but Rd6???
this should have been looked at by the powers that be and organized earlier, making games happen especially if it involves teams that could be semi bound.

Just had a look at tables Mario and agree it doesn't appear fair in 3rds.

In 1st grade - W Bay v Kotara Rd 14 still outstanding, with no scheduled date in Squadi from what I can see. Shouldn't this be declared a draw if not completed before Saturday's final round?

Cardiff are disadvantaged here for me. Cardiff have done hard yards to get games played before weekend, but Kotara get the benefit of seeing if they get a result v Dudley on Saturday, and if they don't then a chance against Bay next week if Cardiff lose? Unless I'm missing something, doesn't seem right and may impact top 5. Bit of bet hedging.

All clubs should be all in on last day of season. That?s why kickoff time is 2-30 on same day for everyone.

[The Hacker]

Just had a look at tables Mario and agree it doesn't appear fair in 3rds.

In 1st grade - W Bay v Kotara Rd 14 still outstanding, with no scheduled date in Squadi from what I can see. Shouldn't this be declared a draw if not completed before Saturday's final round?

Cardiff are disadvantaged here for me. Cardiff have done hard yards to get games played before weekend, but Kotara get the benefit of seeing if they get a result v Dudley on Saturday, and if they don't then a chance against Bay next week if Cardiff lose? Unless I'm missing something, doesn't seem right and may impact top 5. Bit of bet hedging.

All clubs should be all in on last day of season. That?s why kickoff time is 2-30 on same day for everyone.

Cardiff have every right in both grades to blow up. The rest of the top 5 are all up to date. So 6 of the top 8 are up to date. All those teams did everything in their power to get it done cause they are under the impression that if it?s not done by Sunday it would be a draw. Whats the point of everyone playing Saturday then and spreading the refs thin if they let games after the final day.

[Zonal Marking]

Cardiff have every right in both grades to blow up. The rest of the top 5 are all up to date. So 6 of the top 8 are up to date. All those teams did everything in their power to get it done cause they are under the impression that if it?s not done by Sunday it would be a draw. Whats the point of everyone playing Saturday then and spreading the refs thin if they let games after the final day.

I agree with this. I am not having a dig at kotara but all clubs have been faced with the same circumstances this season. And if the matches have not been able to be played perhaps they should be declared a draw. Would be a shame for the likes of Cardiff not knowing by the conclusion of Saturdays play whether they will be playing finals football or not.

[UniMen]

Kotara v Uni 3rd grade is being played Tuesday night.

[Toaf]

Westlakes kotara game in ressies has now changed from nil all draw to a forfeit win to kotara,

[The Hacker]

Westlakes kotara game in ressies has now changed from nil all draw to a forfeit win to kotara,

It?s poor from the federation

[Zonal Marking]

Westlakes kotara game in ressies has now changed from nil all draw to a forfeit win to kotara,

The same thing has happened in third grade. Something very off about all of this. How have kotara gained an extra 2 points in the last 24 hours? This just is not fair to the other teams competing for a finals spot who have actually played their matches.

[Zonal Marking]

We would love it done as well especially with a Minmi catchup that I?m sure both us cellar dwellers would love to catchup.

The Ressies and Thirds Rd 6 catchup for us was originally washed out then washed out again at which point poor Kotara had every weekend and midweek booked out with catchups until this extra week they have created at the end of the season.

No idea what is going on with Sqaudi but we haven?t been told anything about forfeits or why it?s a 0-0 draw from earlier today.

I will just let the association keep me guessing until we hear otherwise.

This still the case WWFC?

[NewHere]

The same thing has happened in third grade. Something very off about all of this. How have kotara gained an extra 2 points in the last 24 hours? This just is not fair to the other teams competing for a finals spot who have actually played their matches.

You are right, this is not fair at all. Most of the top 3rd grade teams are getting a plus 6 to 8 goal difference boost from their game against Westlakes. A forfeit only gives +3.

[Skimmer]

Wow theres some crybabies on here. dryup, growup, get your hands off your **** and accept the the committees rules or **** off.
I can see why you dopes only follow league and not play it. Weak as **** :lol::lol::lol::lol:
ok come back with your keyboard tough talk.

[Zonal Marking]

Wow theres some crybabies on here. dryup, growup, get your hands off your **** and accept the the committees rules or **** off.
I can see why you dopes only follow league and not play it. Weak as **** :lol::lol::lol::lol:
ok come back with your keyboard tough talk.

I lost so many brain cells reading this dross and it is concerning because I did not have too many to begin with in the first place

[magician]

Dudley minor premiers in all 3 grades

[Toaf]

Cardiff vs uni
1st 4-1
Res 3-1
3rds 0-1

[Alton]

Dudley minor premiers in all 3 grades

Wow promotion for the thistles

[gtg]

Thank you Newcastle Olympic! Another premiership for the thistles!

[JustMe]

Scenes at Izzo park. Either Suns really didnt want to go up or they got very tight around the neck. who knows

[Vincent]

Did Cardiff City aka the semi final bottlers get up? Squadi isnt loading for me and uni havent posted anything. Any news lads?

[prawnhead]

Did Cardiff City aka the semi final bottlers get up? Squadi isnt loading for me and uni havent posted anything. Any news lads?

Be interesting to see if W Bay and Kotara play their catch up game next week 😁

[ZLWB]

Be interesting to see if W Bay and Kotara play their catch up game next week 😁
Scheduled for Wednesday night

[prawnhead]

That?s all a time ? choke? job for the Suns, been the form team for years. Suddenly when promotion is on the line they have to play the 3rd grade GK in first grade and yeah the Palozzi?s need to play Ressies to get back into form.

Congrats to Dudley though!

I hope they can handle the BBQ and duty office vest without their club stalwarts from 3rds there.

Suns v Croatia will be the new go too in ZL 😂

[Jardelsimage]

Scheduled for Wednesday night

so Kotara 1st need to win by 4 and 3rds Kotara need a point to knock Olympic out v Uni on Tuesday??

[The Hacker]

so Kotara 1st need to win by 4 and 3rds Kotara need a point to knock Olympic out v Uni on Tuesday??

This is crazy that we are at this point and they know the goals needed etc

Well done Dudley on premierships in all 3 grades. Very impressive for all grades to win

[anfield]

Dudley minor premiers in all 3 grades

Congratulations to Dudley, Back to where they belong. Well done

[Zonal Marking]

Congratulations to Dudley. A clean sweep of three premierships is a very impressive achievement.

[The Hacker]

Congratulations to Dudley. A clean sweep of three premierships is a very impressive achievement.

Will be interesting in the coming years who comes out of this comp and is promoted. Suns I think will next year and if Croatia spend they will in the near future. NL1 in 4-5years will be like the best ZL1 clubs now plus a few from NL1 now. None will have juniors to be able to go to NPL and promotion to the top grade will happen every now and then like the old days.
Promotion/Relegation goes on the top grade why should not having juniors stop say Dudley going up if the win next year when it?s only first grade that counts

[Alton]

Congratulations to Dudley. A clean sweep of three premierships is a very impressive achievement.

Are they going up ?

[Zonal Marking]

Will be interesting in the coming years who comes out of this comp and is promoted. Suns I think will next year and if Croatia spend they will in the near future. NL1 in 4-5years will be like the best ZL1 clubs now plus a few from NL1 now. None will have juniors to be able to go to NPL and promotion to the top grade will happen every now and then like the old days.
Promotion/Relegation goes on the top grade why should not having juniors stop say Dudley going up if the win next year when it?s only first grade that counts

I agree with what you?re saying and also believe Suns are nailed on to go up next season. I can?t help but feel the federation would probably prefer clubs like Kotara, Mayfield & Warners Bay clubs who either have a large junior base or the ability to realign with them (Mayfield) to move up though.

[Taffy]

Well I guess Dudley don't get to lose their third team now, except instead of a bunch of old blokes it is now a bunch of U18s they need to organise.

Well done to Suns for figuring out how to stay in the comp, and next year this thread gets even more Croatia talk then before #samocroatia.

[Taffy]

I agree with what you?re saying and also believe Suns are nailed on to go up next season. I can?t help but feel the federation would probably prefer clubs like Kotara, Mayfield & Warners Bay clubs who either have a large junior base or the ability to realign with them (Mayfield) to move up though.

That may be true, however, currently those with the large junior base could look to enter these teams in PYL now.

[The Hacker]

That may be true, however, currently those with the large junior base could look to enter these teams in PYL now.

There are teams already in that comp like Toronto and Singleton whose kids gets flogged every week. Why add more teams and dilute it further.
Dudley could merge with the junior club also

[Kicktheball]

Correct me if I am wrong gentlemen. However it looks as though a few clubs have strengthened there lower grades and pushed players down.

I won't name names but it is quite evident with recent results...

Fair play to them, let's hope they don't come unstuck with the ruling in place for this

[gtg]

Correct me if I am wrong gentlemen. However it looks as though a few clubs have strengthened there lower grades and pushed players down.

I won't name names but it is quite evident with recent results...

Fair play to them, let's hope they don't come unstuck with the ruling in place for this

Who are you referring to here? I'm curious

[The Hacker]

Correct me if I am wrong gentlemen. However it looks as though a few clubs have strengthened there lower grades and pushed players down.

I won't name names but it is quite evident with recent results...

Fair play to them, let's hope they don't come unstuck with the ruling in place for this

I go and watch most weeks and have missed maybe 6 games all year but first grade always have 3-4 fresh players on the bench. If you?re not in the first 15 are you meant to miss out. That?s just having a strong club if you have 15-18 players that are up to playing first grade and other clubs see as first graders

[Taffy]

There are teams already in that comp like Toronto and Singleton whose kids gets flogged every week. Why add more teams and dilute it further.
Dudley could merge with the junior club also

With the current setup, Toronto teams only had 4 games where the score difference was 5 or more during the second phase. 2 of them was Toronto winning by 5 or more. Hardly being flogged every week.

[Zonal Marking]

Who are you referring to here? I'm curious

Also interested to hear which clubs he is calling out? Go ahead and name them.

[mge61]

Also interested to hear which clubs he is calling out? Go ahead and name them.

The silence is deafening.

[Zonal Marking]

The silence is deafening.

I think the guy is just stirring. Poor from us even entertaining his ridiculous accusation to be honest.

[Kicktheball]

Who are you referring to here? I'm curious

Mayfield, Cardiff, Kotara...

[ForeverRed]

Mayfield, Cardiff, Kotara...
Wouldn?t have been Cardiff, all 3 grades needed to win, doesn?t make sence

[Zonal Marking]

Wouldn?t have been Cardiff, all 3 grades needed to win, doesn?t make sence

Same as Kotara. Their first grade are still in the hunt for finals so why would they purposely jeopardise it. Mayfield firsts have been average all season so unless they have been stacking right from the start I dont see any issue there either.

[Jardelsimage]

Mayfield, Cardiff, Kotara...

3 grades playing for finals spot, a heap of blokes out on a buck show.
2 of our 3rds players played reggies on Saturday to the detriment of our 3rds side, stacking not us bud...pick another tiger..

[Zonal Marking]

3 grades playing for finals spot, a heap of blokes out on a buck show.
2 of our 3rds players played reggies on Saturday to the detriment of our 3rds side, stacking not us bud...pick another tiger..

I know there was talk of Uni playing first graders against the Suns in a midweek third grade fixture earlier in the season (which ironically ended up costing Suns a premiership). However Kicktheball has provided 3 poor examples here.

Edit: I see Suns are playing Uni in the thirds major semi final this weekend which should be interesting.

[Jardelsimage]

Elimination final is finally set

3rds Warners Bay v Kotara
reg Cardiff v Mayfield
1st Cardiff v Uni

[Jardelsimage]

Hope everyone has their player quals in order, no more dropping back a grade to sit on the bench, if you don't have the games, you can't play...this will cause some issues for some clubs.

[FlatScreen]

Hope everyone has their player quals in order, no more dropping back a grade to sit on the bench, if you don't have the games, you can't play...this will cause some issues for some clubs.

Interesting! So the rules have changed?

[Jardelsimage]

yep and they are a little confusing, but in the end is as follows i believe.

EX: jimmy plays 10 games in reggies, plays 9 games in 1st he is eligible for reggies but can play higher.
pauly plays 5 games in 3rds, 4 games in reggies and 2 games in 1st, he is 3rd grader, but can play higher.

It gets little more complex when you break down more scenarios that can arise.

Also, as 3rds in our comp don't really have starting 11 in squaddie, the whole 16 on the sheet count as 3rd grade, this will be cancelled out if you start a higher grade on that day.
This also applies to if you start or bench a lower grade, then start higher, the higher one is counted for the day.

There is no more being a 1st grader or Reserve grader and dropping down a grade to sit on the bench as previous years to play in the finals.

There is a section within Squaddie your club admin can look it up. If anyone needs to know how to access, PM me and i send how to do it.

[Taffy]

To make it simple . The grade a Player has started the highest percentage of their Matches in is the lowest grade in which they are eligible to participate in the Final Series.

So if a player started 15 1st grade games but also started 12 reserves grade games then he is only eligible for 1st. If a player started in both equal than the lowest one counts.


The other rule is that players are only allowed to start in one Final per weekend regardless of what grades they are eligible for.

[Jardelsimage]

To make it simple . The grade a Player has started the highest percentage of their Matches in is the lowest grade in which they are eligible to participate in the Final Series.

So if a player started 15 1st grade games but also started 12 reserves grade games then he is only eligible for 1st. If a player started in both equal than the lowest one counts.


The other rule is that players are only allowed to start in one Final per weekend regardless of what grades they are eligible for.

Taffy, need to drop the percentages, in squaddie you need to look at the started column, % is skewed towards games participated in, not games started.

[magician]

Taffy, need to drop the percentages, in squaddie you need to look at the started column, % is skewed towards games participated in, not games started.
So hypothetically if you played the first say 10 games in firsts then get dropped and play the last 9 in ressies. Your aren?t qualified to play ressies?
That?s Newcastle football for you 🤦🏼*♂️

[FlatScreen]

yep and they are a little confusing, but in the end is as follows i believe.

EX: jimmy plays 10 games in reggies, plays 9 games in 1st he is eligible for reggies but can play higher.
pauly plays 5 games in 3rds, 4 games in reggies and 2 games in 1st, he is 3rd grader, but can play higher.

It gets little more complex when you break down more scenarios that can arise.

Also, as 3rds in our comp don't really have starting 11 in squaddie, the whole 16 on the sheet count as 3rd grade, this will be cancelled out if you start a higher grade on that day.
This also applies to if you start or bench a lower grade, then start higher, the higher one is counted for the day.

There is no more being a 1st grader or Reserve grader and dropping down a grade to sit on the bench as previous years to play in the finals.

There is a section within Squaddie your club admin can look it up. If anyone needs to know how to access, PM me and i send how to do it.

ok So John plays 6 games in thirds, 9 games in ressies and 4 Games in 1sts. Can John sit on the bench for thirds? Or is a case of your primary grade is the lowest you can play in at all?

[Jardelsimage]

ok So John plays 6 games in thirds, 9 games in ressies and 4 Games in 1sts. Can John sit on the bench for thirds? Or is a case of your primary grade is the lowest you can play in at all?

reggies only, has played more games in reggies so that is his lowest grade..

[Taffy]

Taffy, need to drop the percentages, in squaddie you need to look at the started column, % is skewed towards games participated in, not games started.

I copied and pasted the actual rules which says percentage, and they count games started as the game they played in.


So hypothetically if you played the first say 10 games in firsts then get dropped and play the last 9 in ressies. Your aren?t qualified to play ressies?

That correct


ok So John plays 6 games in thirds, 9 games in ressies and 4 Games in 1sts. Can John sit on the bench for thirds? Or is a case of your primary grade is the lowest you can play in at all?

Reserves is the lowest grade, however, can play 1sts. But can't start in both on game day.

[riverboy]

Hope everyone has their player quals in order, no more dropping back a grade to sit on the bench, if you don't have the games, you can't play...this will cause some issues for some clubs.

Are you from the association?

[Jardelsimage]

Are you from the association?

no, asked a question the other day and was told this is how it is, a little different from previous years, so thought i would share it..

[NewHere]

I copied and pasted the actual rules which says percentage, and they count games started as the game they played in.



Here's the rules and regs - Page 43. Taffy seems to be across them, if others are unsure they should read them, it is only one and a bit pages for finals eligibility. https://www.northernnswfootball.com.au/sites/nnswf/files/2024-04/regulation_e_-_playing_rules_-_zone_football_league_competitions.pdf

My interpretation.
Highest percentage of matches played in a grade is the lowest you can play for finals. (E50 1a)
The highest grade you started for in a round is considered the grade you played that round. (E50 1b)
If you were a bench player and didn't get on (and didn't play other grades in the round), then you didn't play that week. (E50 3)

[Lofty]

The thing is that none of this is policed. Unless you have access to the opposing teams stats, there’s no way you can pull anyone up on it unless it’s obvious.

The other side of it, if you have three grades in the finals there’s no exception. Which is wild because your teams are already stretched. There needs to be some commonsense applied as no clubs with all grades are going to play higher grade players in lower teams. The rules applied block players from being able to get a shirt.

[Taffy]

The thing is that none of this is policed. Unless you have access to the opposing teams stats, there’s no way you can pull anyone up on it unless it’s obvious.

Well that's quite true, unless you suspect it may not be true and lodge a complaint with NF to investigate after the fact.

[Jardelsimage]

[QUOTE=Taffy;275807]I copied and pasted the actual rules which says percentage, and they count games started as the game they played in.

Taffy, understand and agree what it says, I also read that, but i was told by the hierarchy that the % are a bit skewed and if you went onto the Admin side of squaddie, you could see that better.
I think it's a Squaddie system fault, which squaddie has plenty of faults in it.
In the end, it is what it is, just hope everyone is around it and no-one gets caught out.

Happy finals weekend to all.

[Jardelsimage]

The thing is that none of this is policed. Unless you have access to the opposing teams stats, there’s no way you can pull anyone up on it unless it’s obvious.

The other side of it, if you have three grades in the finals there’s no exception. Which is wild because your teams are already stretched. There needs to be some commonsense applied as no clubs with all grades are going to play higher grade players in lower teams. The rules applied block players from being able to get a shirt.

yes they dropped that one out also, that one always supported the successful clubs who could get all grades in, play wherever until a team drops out, now it's gone, not sure why they would do that..

[YerMate]

Hope everyone has their player quals in order, no more dropping back a grade to sit on the bench, if you don't have the games, you can't play...this will cause some issues for some clubs.

about time. no more dropping players to stack benches. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

[Chips]

yes they dropped that one out also, that one always supported the successful clubs who could get all grades in, play wherever until a team drops out, now it's gone, not sure why they would do that..

What if the squad they qualify for has 15 fresh players surely they can filter down and start the lower grade and not miss a shirt. If not that?s madness

[Taffy]

What if the squad they qualify for has 15 fresh players surely they can filter down and start the lower grade and not miss a shirt. If not that?s madness

Surely this won't be the case, because it would mean more than 15 players have started in the higher grade for a majority of their games across the year.

Been like this in NL1 and NPL for a long time, don't think any player has ever missed out because of eligibility only through coaches choice.

[gtg]

Anyone up for some predictions?

suns will be fired up from their embarrassing defeat against Olympic and I expect them to win 5-0

Cardiff uni is tricky. I rate both teams and think Cardiff will win it 3-1

[Zonal Marking]

So hypothetically if you played the first say 10 games in firsts then get dropped and play the last 9 in ressies. Your aren?t qualified to play ressies?
That?s Newcastle football for you 🤦🏼*♂️

This is complete madness. And that player from my understanding can not even start on the bench for ressies.

[ZLWB]

Anyone up for some predictions?

suns will be fired up from their embarrassing defeat against Olympic and I expect them to win 5-0

Cardiff uni is tricky. I rate both teams and think Cardiff will win it 3-1

Saying the Suns? loss to Olympic was embarrassing is very harsh to a quality Olympic team.
The final standings on the ladder suggest they?re a tight unit

[biscuits]

Suns 3-2 1 Red each win in ET.

Cardiff 3-2 in ET.

[gtg]

Saying the Suns? loss to Olympic was embarrassing is very harsh to a quality Olympic team.
The final standings on the ladder suggest they?re a tight unit

I understand your confusion, let me elaborate my point.

I believe it's embarrassing because:

- final game of the season
- playing rivals Olympic
- Olympic only promoted in 2023
- Suns were basically full strength (minus the keeper)
- Olympic apparently missing 5 key first grade players (I heard this from a mate, someone from the club could dispute this if I'm off)
- bitter rivals Dudley breathing down their necks
- they only needed 1 point to seal the premiership and promotion

So it's not the loss to Olympic but the context and implications of losing which makes it embarrassing IMO... I think Suns will be ready to make things right and with the quality in their squad (IMO the best team in the comp) they could be deadly.


Also this is my 100th post on the forums so feel free to congratulate me for my service if you get a chance

[Zonal Marking]

I understand your confusion, let me elaborate my point.

I believe it's embarrassing because:

- final game of the season
- playing rivals Olympic
- Olympic only promoted in 2023
- Suns were basically full strength (minus the keeper)
- Olympic apparently missing 5 key first grade players (I heard this from a mate, someone from the club could dispute this if I'm off)
- bitter rivals Dudley breathing down their necks
- they only needed 1 point to seal the premiership and promotion

So it's not the loss to Olympic but the context and implications of losing which makes it embarrassing IMO... I think Suns will be ready to make things right and with the quality in their squad (IMO the best team in the comp) they could be deadly.


Also this is my 100th post on the forums so feel free to congratulate me for my service if you get a chance

I think there was a feeling from most on here (not lofty and the suns camp to be fair) that for weeks now the premiership and promotion was a forgone conclusion and the fact Dudley pipped them on the final day came as a shock to everyone. In isolation a loss away at Islington park is not an embarrassing result at all and could happen to any team in the comp.

[Jardelsimage]

I think there was a feeling from most on here (not lofty and the suns camp to be fair) that for weeks now the premiership and promotion was a forgone conclusion and the fact Dudley pipped them on the final day came as a shock to everyone. In isolation a loss away at Islington park is not an embarrassing result at all and could happen to any team in the comp.

the 1st rd was 3-3 also...at Myer Park

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

I understand your confusion, let me elaborate my point.

I believe it's embarrassing because:

- final game of the season
- playing rivals Olympic
- Olympic only promoted in 2023
- Suns were basically full strength (minus the keeper)
- Olympic apparently missing 5 key first grade players (I heard this from a mate, someone from the club could dispute this if I'm off)
- bitter rivals Dudley breathing down their necks
- they only needed 1 point to seal the premiership and promotion

So it's not the loss to Olympic but the context and implications of losing which makes it embarrassing IMO... I think Suns will be ready to make things right and with the quality in their squad (IMO the best team in the comp) they could be deadly.


Also this is my 100th post on the forums so feel free to congratulate me for my service if you get a chance

Congrats on the tonne bud. Your most deluded post yet.

Despite Olympics second year in ZL1, they have spent accordingly and brought in quality former NPL product. Taking points on the final match day at Islington was always going to be a tough ask. Conceding a goal against the opposing goalkeeper didn?t help the situation either.

All things considered, I believe Suns will get their revenge, winning by a goal in a tight one tomorrow.

Cardiff will over power Uni at home.

[ZLWB]

I understand your confusion, let me elaborate my point.

I believe it's embarrassing because:

- final game of the season
- playing rivals Olympic
- Olympic only promoted in 2023
- Suns were basically full strength (minus the keeper)
- Olympic apparently missing 5 key first grade players (I heard this from a mate, someone from the club could dispute this if I'm off)
- bitter rivals Dudley breathing down their necks
- they only needed 1 point to seal the premiership and promotion

So it's not the loss to Olympic but the context and implications of losing which makes it embarrassing IMO... I think Suns will be ready to make things right and with the quality in their squad (IMO the best team in the comp) they could be deadly.


Also this is my 100th post on the forums so feel free to congratulate me for my service if you get a chance

Ah - misunderstood.

Congratulations on your service !!!
😂😂😂😂

[Toaf]

3rds uni fight back from 2 down to beat suns in pens
Res suns prevail in pens after 1 all full time both goals were scrappy
1st suns get revenge
Are both suns 1st n res keepers injured for the season 3rd grade keeper played 2 games n res striker played again in goals for 1sts

[Lofty]

3rds uni fight back from 2 down to beat suns in pens
Res suns prevail in pens after 1 all full time both goals were scrappy
1st suns get revenge
Are both suns 1st n res keepers injured for the season 3rd grade keeper played 2 games n res striker played again in goals for 1sts

Our first grade keeper hasn’t played since round 17 and our resssies keeper has played one game since then which was round 18. It’s not ideal, but it is what it is.

[UniMen]

Elimination Finals
1sts Cardiff 1(7)- Uni 1(8)
Res Cardiff 0- Mayfield 1
Thirds WBay 1- Kotara 3

[riverboy]

Elimination Finals
1sts Cardiff 1(7)- Uni 1(8)
Res Cardiff 0- Mayfield 1
Thirds WBay 1- Kotara 3

If Cardiff had won they would have posted scores by 5.

[Zonal Marking]

If Cardiff had won they would have posted scores by 5.
Tough losing two games especially when you are the host. Hope Vincent is doing alright.

[Vincent]

Tough losing two games especially when you are the host. Hope Vincent is doing alright.

Doing good mate. Predicted to come last. Made finals. Good effort all around. Cheers for letting me live rent free in ya head. Build on next year with some more half price pizza signings

[Jardelsimage]

If Cardiff had won they would have posted scores by 5.

Riverbed, why would we have to post the results, when Uni had already posted them? didn't realize it was so important to you..

But if you were on the ZL12024 Chat you would know i posted the results at 5:02pm...and have posted results all day..

[riverboy]

Riverbed, why would we have to post the results, when Uni had already posted them? didn't realize it was so important to you..

But if you were on the ZL12024 Chat you would know i posted the results at 5:02pm...and have posted results all day..

Somebody's a bit touchy. I'm only saying what would have happened if you had won.

[Luke Littler]

I love some of the banter on here most times , but you my friend are the worst.
Ps as a nuetral , it was a typical semi final slog. Very tough conditions with the heat , hard ground and the wind. Physical at times and both teams with good chances to win it. Especially Cardiff hitting the crossbar twice in last 2 mins.

[Jardelsimage]

Somebody's a bit touchy. I'm only saying what would have happened if you had won.

You sound like my wife, telling me what would have happened...

In the river, games finished around 450ish pm, then we packed up the ground, drove home, plugged the old laptop in, checked a few emails, clicked on the forum and shit, Uni had already posted, so they beat me to it.
This is my routine after 95% of our games, just this week's went longer and got home a little bit later.

No one is touchy, and as Luke Littler said good tough game, both gave it their all...bring on 2025

are we finished now?

[ForeverRed]

If Cardiff had won they would have posted scores by 5.
Dumb post

[riverboy]

Dumb post

Go back to your Mad Monday at the Iron Horse or the train station or wherever you guys hang out.

[ForeverRed]

Go back to your Mad Monday at the Iron Horse or the train station or wherever you guys hang out.
I?m at work champ, hit a nerve did I

[riverboy]

I?m at work champ, hit a nerve did I

Not at all, Like the majority on this forum I don't take any notice of you. Your opinions are uneducated, I'm surprised you have a job.

[ForeverRed]

Not at all, Like the majority on this forum I don't take any notice of you. Your opinions are uneducated, I'm surprised you have a job.

Haha rent free my friend, rent free

[The Hacker]

Should be some good games down at Dudley today. What?s everyone?s predictions

1st Dudley 2-1 Suns
Res Dudley 1-0 Suns
3rds Dudley 3-1 Uni

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

Should be some good games down at Dudley today. What?s everyone?s predictions

1st Dudley 2-1 Suns
Res Dudley 1-0 Suns
3rds Dudley 3-1 Uni

1st Suns via penalties
Res Dudley 3-1 Suns
3rds Dudley 2-1 Uni

[ForeverRed]

1st Suns via penalties
Res Dudley 3-1 Suns
3rds Dudley 2-1 Uni
Dudley up in thirds & reggies

[ForeverRed]

All 3 grades Dudley yeeeew

[Box2Box]

So can Dudley simply try and get youth for next season or do NNSW only have a certain amount if youth licences available?. If Dudley are not allowed to have youth they are basically playing for survival in Northern League 1 and they cannot be promoted. Sounds like a stupid system to me especially with no GF in Northern League 1

[Alton]

So can Dudley simply try and get youth for next season or do NNSW only have a certain amount if youth licences available?. If Dudley are not allowed to have youth they are basically playing for survival in Northern League 1 and they cannot be promoted. Sounds like a stupid system to me especially with no GF in Northern League 1
They have got a bucket load of work to do before next year, it?s all new to them in regards to chasing youth teams

[The Hacker]

They have got a bucket load of work to do before next year, it?s all new to them in regards to chasing youth teams

They are competing with Azzurri and Kahibah which are already established. Tough gig to draw from 3 neighbouring suburbs if your Dudley. Next year could be embarrassing if they finish in the top 4. Then what happens

[Skimmer]

Uni all over Olympic today. not even close.

[Hunter403]

So can Dudley simply try and get youth for next season or do NNSW only have a certain amount if youth licences available?. If Dudley are not allowed to have youth they are basically playing for survival in Northern League 1 and they cannot be promoted. Sounds like a stupid system to me especially with no GF in Northern League 1

Dudley can compete in NL1 without youth teams. However, under the current rules they cannot be promoted to NPL and they cannot compete in the promotion/relegation series. There are rules about a non eligible teams and I assume they are on the NNSWF website.
I am told there has been some discussion around Dudley getting an 18s should the 18s be removed from PYL, but as that is not happening (for now) it is only talk.
I have no doubt that Dudley will be very strong in NL1.

[WOW2.0]

Dudley can compete in NL1 without youth teams. However, under the current rules they cannot be promoted to NPL and they cannot compete in the promotion/relegation series. There are rules about a non eligible teams and I assume they are on the NNSWF website.
I am told there has been some discussion around Dudley getting an 18s should the 18s be removed from PYL, but as that is not happening (for now) it is only talk.
I have no doubt that Dudley will be very strong in NL1.

I noticed Dudley has interdistrict competition youth teams...what's to stop them simply paying the YL licence and saying they are now PYL teams (competition is a team short already anyway)

Wonder how much having the licence would add to their registration fees (the only negative consideration I can think of)

[Zone Insider]

Uni all over Olympic today. not even close.

Yep, I think Uni will do Suns next week as well. Something off at the Suns.

[ForeverRed]

I noticed Dudley has interdistrict competition youth teams...what's to stop them simply paying the YL licence and saying they are now PYL teams (competition is a team short already anyway)

Wonder how much having the licence would add to their registration fees (the only negative consideration I can think of)
It?s the juniors, they play at redhead, they aren?t affiliated

[Taffy]

So can Dudley simply try and get youth for next season or do NNSW only have a certain amount if youth licences available?. If Dudley are not allowed to have youth they are basically playing for survival in Northern League 1 and they cannot be promoted. Sounds like a stupid system to me especially with no GF in Northern League 1

They can try to get youth, there is currently a free spot in there. To be honest, Dudley aren't getting promoted next year anyway, so perhaps focusing on survival first and then look for youth in 2026 is the better option.

[The Hacker]

They can try to get youth, there is currently a free spot in there. To be honest, Dudley aren't getting promoted next year anyway, so perhaps focusing on survival first and then look for youth in 2026 is the better option.

Survival 😂. I think they would be disappointed in not making the top 4 with their current squad. I think if they are working towards youth in 2026 they should be eligible for promotion next year.
Also if they are trying for an 18?s the federation has to try and accommodate. The federation forced them up so the federation should be making exemptions to assist newly promoted clubs

[ZLWB]

Yep, I think Uni will do Suns next week as well. Something off at the Suns.

Suns are a quality unit. Uni were incredible against Olympic, but can they do that two games in a row?
I?m not convinced.
If I?m not wrong Saturday was the first time this year Suns have been held scoreless. I can?t see that happening again. Way too much firepower up front.

[Taffy]

Survival ��. I think they would be disappointed in not making the top 4 with their current squad. I think if they are working towards youth in 2026 they should be eligible for promotion next year.
Also if they are trying for an 18?s the federation has to try and accommodate. The federation forced them up so the federation should be making exemptions to assist newly promoted clubs

Exemptions for what? They don't need youth including 18s that's the point.

If they manage to get youth for 2026 and they go up, highly unlikely that they will be, then they will be promoted to NPL.

[The Hacker]

Suns are a quality unit. Uni were incredible against Olympic, but can they do that two games in a row?
I?m not convinced.
If I?m not wrong Saturday was the first time this year Suns have been held scoreless. I can?t see that happening again. Way too much firepower up front.

Suns with to much firepower up front. Uni strength isn?t their defence.
Outstanding season from the students I don?t think anyone picked them to go this far

[Zone Insider]

Suns are a quality unit. Uni were incredible against Olympic, but can they do that two games in a row?
I?m not convinced.
If I?m not wrong Saturday was the first time this year Suns have been held scoreless. I can?t see that happening again. Way too much firepower up front.

Unhappy camp. Some of that firepower will be missing this week I?m told.

[Zonal Marking]

Unhappy camp. Some of that firepower will be missing this week I?m told.

So which of the Palozzis is unhappy? Or is it Tserapas?

[Zone Insider]

So which of the Palozzis is unhappy? Or is it Tserapas?

One of the Ps

[Zonal Marking]

One of the Ps

Well if Aiden refuses to play they have a couple of players up front from their Res team who have been firing in goals all season. I think Suns will still go into the game with a very strong attacking lineup.

[The Hacker]

Well if Aiden refuses to play they have a couple of players up front from their Res team who have been firing in goals all season. I think Suns will still go into the game with a very strong attacking lineup.

Why would he refuse to play. Long season to play to spit the dummy and not play the last game or 2

I?d find that hard to believe

[Zonal Marking]

Why would he refuse to play. Long season to play to spit the dummy and not play the last game or 2

I?d find that hard to believe

Hey im with you. I get the feeling our mate here is talking BS.

Perhaps Lofty can put any rumours of unrest to bed?

[prawnhead]

Hey im with you. I get the feeling our mate here is talking BS.

Perhaps Lofty can put any rumours of unrest to bed?

Why would he even bother to reply to rubbish rumours on here.

I?m sure the Suns are busy preparing as best they can for 3 grades this weekend.

[Zone Insider]

Why would he refuse to play. Long season to play to spit the dummy and not play the last game or 2

I?d find that hard to believe

No one said he refused to play.
I said it?s an unhappy camp.

Why else would a starting player ring a mate about moving to an opposition club next season.

[Zone Insider]

Hey im with you. I get the feeling our mate here is talking BS.

Perhaps Lofty can put any rumours of unrest to bed?

Maybe he can explain why the GK who moved from Mayfield is fit to play but doesn?t get selected and yet they continue with an outfield player.

[ForeverRed]

Maybe he can explain why the GK who moved from Mayfield is fit to play but doesn?t get selected and yet they continue with an outfield player.
The mayfield keeper got injured and was never seen again

[Zone Insider]

The mayfield keeper got injured and was never seen again

Looked healthy when I saw him on the golf course recently

[Zonal Marking]

No one said he refused to play.
I said it?s an unhappy camp.

Why else would a starting player ring a mate about moving to an opposition club next season.

You said some of that firepower will be missing. So either he is refusing to play (unlikely) or has been dropped (also unlikely).

The third option is that you are talking complete rubbish (highly likely)

[Zone Insider]

You said some of that firepower will be missing. So either he is refusing to play (unlikely) or has been dropped (also unlikely).

The third option is that you are talking complete rubbish (highly likely)

Or maybe he has something on and isn?t available

[Zonal Marking]

Or maybe he has something on and isn?t available

Yeah I will lock in option 3 thanks Eddie

[The Hacker]

Yeah I will lock in option 3 thanks Eddie

That makes 2 of us

[Nou Camp]

I?d like to put all the rumours to bed but it?s to entertaining reading what people come up with
What else you got for us?

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

I?d like to put all the rumours to bed but it?s to entertaining reading what people come up with
What else you got for us?

Can you confirm Cody Higgs to Croatia?

[riverboy]

Can you confirm Cody Higgs to Croatia?

I'm sure Croatia are targeting a few

[The Hacker]

I'm sure Croatia are targeting a few

They need to target some defenders. They have no dramas scoring goals but they can leak goals. They gave up nearly 1.5 goals a game. That will need to improve if they want to compete at the top of ZL1

[ZLWB]

They need to target some defenders. They have no dramas scoring goals but they can leak goals. They gave up nearly 1.5 goals a game. That will need to improve if they want to compete at the top of ZL1
Tend to agree, but worth noting that Olympic conceded 1.77 goals per game and were comfortably top 3. Even the Suns conceded 1.32 per game. Their firepower up front (>4 goals a game) is what got them to within a couple of points of winning the league.
Dudley conceded a miserly 0.59 goals per game. Goals win games, defence wins leagues.
I?d love to know how many of the Suns 90 goals were contributed by the main three up front.

[Zone Insider]

They need to target some defenders. They have no dramas scoring goals but they can leak goals. They gave up nearly 1.5 goals a game. That will need to improve if they want to compete at the top of ZL1

They have quality defenders now so maybe it?s the coaching.

[The Hacker]

They have quality defenders now so maybe it?s the coaching.

Maybe

[The Hacker]

Who we got today. I?m thinking

3rds Suns
Res Kotara
1st Suns

Think Uni played their GF last week. Not sure they can repeat it

[biscuits]

Suns all 3 grades, would make Dudley V Suns all 3 grades in the GF next week.

Hopefully Kotara in Ressies get up.

If Uni 1sts come out like last week, they will stun the suns as well. Agree probably played their GF last week.

[Lofty]

First grade Suns 2-1 AET Uni
Reserves Suns 2-1 Kotara
Third grade 0-1 Uni

[Zone Insider]

First grade Suns 2-1 AET Uni
Reserves Suns 2-1 Kotara
Third grade 0-1 Uni

Missing one of your attacking weapons like I said earlier in the week and left it late to scrape through. Will need to be better next week. Congrats on the win.


Good season from Uni.

[magician]

Missing one of your attacking weapons like I said earlier in the week and left it late to scrape through. Will need to be better next week. Congrats on the win.


Good season from Uni.

Did he refuse to play? You seem to know everything

[Zone Insider]

Did he refuse to play? You seem to know everything

Had something on I?m told.

[Lofty]

Grand Final time slightly different.

Sunday at Darling Street
First grade: 3pm
Dudley v Suns

Reserve grade: 12:15pm
Dudley v Suns

Third grade: 10am
Dudley v Uni

[Lofty]

Missing one of your attacking weapons like I said earlier in the week and left it late to scrape through. Will need to be better next week. Congrats on the win.


Good season from Uni.

Thank you.

[Zone Insider]

Thank you.

I hope you get the job done this week and smash Dudley.

After I was sent a screenshot of their group chat messages over the weekend I?m off them.

[Lofty]

I hope you get the job done this week and smash Dudley.

After I was sent a screenshot of their group chat messages over the weekend I?m off them.

Hahaha the insider knows all

[finzee]

I hope you get the job done this week and smash Dudley.

After I was sent a screenshot of their group chat messages over the weekend I?m off them.

Are you ok now or need therapy? Those big bad words must be horrific. :grin:

[Zone Insider]

Are you ok now or need therapy? Those big bad words must be horrific. :grin:

Not sure about you but I don?t condone racism.

[Hajduk]

Not sure about you but I don?t condone racism.

I couldn?t agree more, was disgraceful.

[Lofty]

Yeah wow, Dudley boys let themselves down big time. That community are stuck in the 80's it seems. Says a lot about that club now.

[Regal lord]

Will the games be shown on Bar TV?




Last year's had no commentary? Will it be the same this year?

[ZLWB]

Grand Final time slightly different.

Sunday at Darling Street
First grade: 3pm
Dudley v Suns

Reserve grade: 12:15pm
Dudley v Suns

Third grade: 10am
Dudley v Uni

Why the later start?

[Gelato]

Yeh wow....that group chat I saw is actually pathetic

[Zonal Marking]

Yeh wow....that group chat I saw is actually pathetic

Care to share with the rest of us who have no idea what is going on?

Sounds like there will be no love lost between the two teams competing on Sunday anyway.

[finzee]

Will the games be shown on Bar TV?
Last year's had no commentary? Will it be the same this year?

I hope so.

[finzee]

Not sure about you but I don?t condone racism.

Me neither but ive copped it many times.
Being a kiwi Ive heard it all, youve laughed at the kiwi "jokes" but its ok because you only care when its out in the open and you feel good defending certain outages.
Ill never worry or sook over words especially used by someone who doesn't know me.
In Aus ive been called a white c a dozen times by the usual, a wog quite a few times on the footy field here, a p**f especially by the league dudes. The later seems to get the biggest outrage now.
Not once have i thought about being a victim as it didnt hurt.
I find it tacky and lose respect for those people who go down that road but thats it.
Theres more injustices, disease and violence that id rather avoid. Id rather a slur than a broken ankle in a grub tackle.

Any fines for the Croatia slurs last week?

[Buddha]

Me neither but ive copped it many times.
Being a kiwi Ive heard it all, youve laughed at the kiwi "jokes" but its ok because you only care when its out in the open and you feel good defending certain outages.
Ill never worry or sook over words especially used by someone who doesn't know me.
In Aus ive been called a white c a dozen times by the usual, a wog quite a few times on the footy field here, a p**f especially by the league dudes. The later seems to get the biggest outrage now.
Not once have i thought about being a victim as it didnt hurt.
I find it tacky and lose respect for those people who go down that road but thats it.
Theres more injustices, disease and violence that id rather avoid. Id rather a slur than a broken ankle in a grub tackle.

Any fines for the Croatia slurs last week?

Every person is different. For you it might be ok but for others it might bring up past trauma of a childhood they want to forget

Just because it's fine for you doesn't mean you get to speak for others.

[Zone Insider]

Every person is different. For you it might be ok but for others it might bring up past trauma of a childhood they want to forget

Just because it's fine for you doesn't mean you get to speak for others.

Correct well said

[Regal lord]

Grand Final time slightly different.

Sunday at Darling Street
First grade: 3pm
Dudley v Suns

Reserve grade: 12:15pm
Dudley v Suns

Third grade: 10am
Dudley v Uni




Have the refs been appointed yet?

[pv4]

I hope you get the job done this week and smash Dudley.

After I was sent a screenshot of their group chat messages over the weekend I?m off them.

Whoever screenshotted their own team group chat needs to be removed from their club entirely.

[Nou Camp]

Yeah wow, Dudley boys let themselves down big time. That community are stuck in the 80's it seems. Says a lot about that club now.
Always knew we lived in their heads rent free and that confirmed it
What did Cardiff do to share a parcel of land in those heads?? I want a bigger house and to maybe build some units there

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

Always knew we lived in their heads rent free and that confirmed
What did Cardiff to share a parcel of land in those heads?? I want a bigger house and maybe build some units there

As an outsider looking in, I?m intrigued to understand what?s going on here.

[cell]

Always knew we lived in their heads rent free and that confirmed
What did Cardiff to share a parcel of land in those heads?? I want a bigger house and maybe build some units there

Can someone translate this for me?

[Nou Camp]

Can someone translate this for me?
Dudleys players group chat name is called #fu%kthesunsandcardiff

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

Gee wiz, I didn?t know that was racism. Harden up you lot.

[Zonal Marking]

So are the Suns upset because Dudleys group chat name is taking a pop at them? That does seem a bit soft to be honest. A bit petty from the Thistles but hardly anything to get upset over.

[Gelato]

The group name is nothing at all, it's what's in the chat that's the issue.

[Zone Insider]

Gee wiz, I didn?t know that was racism. Harden up you lot.

And I quote

?Worst part of promotion is no more W*gs to smash?

[Zonal Marking]

The group name is nothing at all, it's what's in the chat that's the issue.

So what was said in the chat then? A vague description if it is excessively offensive?

[Nou Camp]

So are the Suns upset because Dudleys group chat name is taking a pop at them? That does seem a bit soft to be honest. A bit petty from the Thistles but hardly anything to get upset over.

Not upset at all, I thinks it?s hilarious

[Lofty]

So are the Suns upset because Dudleys group chat name is taking a pop at them? That does seem a bit soft to be honest. A bit petty from the Thistles but hardly anything to get upset over.

It's more embarrassing for Dudley to be honest. Fancy having something like that for your players group chat name, as if they're in high school. It's actually a crack up.
There's evidently been plenty said in that chat, but again it only shows their own character. Good for them if that's the way they speak. Obviously someone within the group has thoughts that don't align and now it's been shared around to everyone.
Hard to respect small-minded groups of people like that.

[Jardelsimage]

Dudleys players group chat name is called #fu%kthesunsandcardiff

...it would be interesting to look at the chat, then it would be also very interesting to read every clubs so called private chats..bet you there is shit on everyone's chat about another club.
...what you name your chat is your business in the end it's a bit lame for my liking and lacks imagination.
.. what you say in it, is also your business until someone makes it public, then you have to deal with it, shake it off or it gets under your skin, this weekend should be interesting if some can't do that.




or is this just smoke and mirrors?

[Zonal Marking]

...it would be interesting to look at the chat, then it would be also very interesting to read every clubs so called private chats..bet you there is shit on everyone's chat about another club.
...what you name your chat is your business in the end it's a bit lame for my liking and lacks imagination.
.. what you say in it, is also your business until someone makes it public, then you have to deal with it, shake it off or it gets under your skin, this weekend should be interesting if some can't do that.




or is this just smoke and mirrors?

You would be hard pressed to find a group chat for any of the clubs that does not have comments that push boundaries or in some cases go too far. Not making excuses for it but I doubt Dudley are the only ones to have said something unacceptable amongst the private banter of zone league clubs this season.

Pretty ordinary from whoever sent out the screenshot though. If it was a bad as people are saying it should have been dealt with in house.

[Zonal Marking]

It's more embarrassing for Dudley to be honest. Fancy having something like that for your players group chat name, as if they're in high school. It's actually a crack up.
There's evidently been plenty said in that chat, but again it only shows their own character. Good for them if that's the way they speak. Obviously someone within the group has thoughts that don't align and now it's been shared around to everyone.
Hard to respect small-minded groups of people like that.

Like I said in regards to the name of the chat I wouldn’t have a problem with it. Basically in any league in world football if you are successful the chances are other clubs you play against are not going to like you. I wouldn’t take it personally if anything I would take it as a compliment.

Not sure what was in the actual chat but if it did cross a line then that is not on but I am still not sure it should have been shared publicly.

[ZLWB]

Pretty ordinary from whoever sent out the screenshot though. If it was a bad as people are saying it should have been dealt with in house.

Yes and no. I agree with the dealing with it in house. The counter to that is that the standard you walk past is the standard you accept. Clearly someone with a conscience wasn?t prepared to accept it. Maybe they tried dealing with it and when that didn?t work went outside the circle

[Lofty]

I understand group chats probably say plenty of things.
But it just sounds like the general consensus is that racist derogatory remarks are all well and good in 2024, so long as it is in a group chat. Certainly the person who shared the comments is at fault, definitely not the people saying it..
My apologies for thinking otherwise.

[Taffy]

Clearly someone with a conscience wasn?t prepared to accept it. Maybe they tried dealing with it and when that didn?t work went outside the circle

Maybe they found it funny as well and sent it off to other people to share the joke in with them and it has since done the rounds

[Dreamtime Yowie]

Name and shame the grub. Zero tolerance remember.

[Regal lord]

Name and shame the grub. Zero tolerance remember.

Glass houses mate. Maybe have a think about that before calling out the Azzurri women's player, who's playing legally under northerns current policy. Instead of directing your anger at the player and calling them a man, maybe talk to northern.

Discrimination works both ways, not just what suits your agenda.

I think enough has been said about this. Stuff shouldn't be said and stuff shouldn't be shared around.

Anyway, what are the predictions for the weekend? Looks like a good day.

[plague]

Worst part of promotion is no more W*gs to smash

well I guess they are lucky there's no wogs in NPL or NL1 to worry about.


It's like the sequel to Powder every game day around those comps.

[plague]

oh, and before you go pointing. I am qualified to use the 'w' word.


cheers,
plague.

[Dreamtime Yowie]

Glass houses mate. Maybe have a think about that before calling out the Azzurri women's player, who's playing legally under northerns current policy. Instead of directing your anger at the player and calling them a man, maybe talk to northern.

Discrimination works both ways, not just what suits your agenda.

I think enough has been said about this. Stuff shouldn't be said and stuff shouldn't be shared around.

Anyway, what are the predictions for the weekend? Looks like a good day.

How is what I said discrimination?. If you are born with a 1 X and a Y chromosome you are a male it?s that simple.
Just because a voice in your head tells you something else don?t mean we have to listen to it. I have a daughter that plays and if he plays against her one day and hits her in a 50/50 or worse I?ll identify as being invisible and storm the field and no one will see me do anything. :whistling:

[JustMe]

oh, and before you go pointing. I am qualified to use the 'w' word.
cheers,
plague.

Listen to this self righteous twat. Im Greek and & Aboriginal so I can say the n word? I think youre closer to FW than W.

[JustMe]

Id be keeping everything shut quiet before playing a GF. That sh*t tends to come back at ya.

[plague]

so I can say the n word?

If the 'n' stands for 'not very nice' then yes , you may use it.


cheers,
plague

[Taffy]

Suns to win on penalties

[FairPlay2022]

Dudley to win but I think it’s going to be very close. Would not be surprised to see it decided in extra time or pens.

No chance it ends 11 on 11 either

[riverboy]

Yeah wow, Dudley boys let themselves down big time. That community are stuck in the 80's it seems. Says a lot about that club now.

Been sitting back watching all the comments come in. Found this one a little strange, as it's having a go a the Dudley club itself?? Are you not a committee member at Suns?

Not sure if the Forum is an appropriate place to be making comments about another club by a committee member. It lacks professionalism

[Lofty]

Been sitting back watching all the comments come in. Found this one a little strange, as it's having a go a the Dudley club itself?? Are you not a committee member at Suns?

Not sure if the Forum is an appropriate place to be making comments about another club by a committee member. It lacks professionalism

People like you are part of the problem. Astounding to think that in this whole episode, the only thing you care to critique is me saying the club have let themselves down in this incident.
So I'm guessing what was said is absolutely fine in your eyes? And me commenting on it is the only part that's out of order?
Firstly, I didn't bring this up. The conversation and the screenshot was being talked about before my comment above was made.

Would have loved to move on from this, but singling me out from all of this is wild. Give your head a wobble.

[Taffy]

Can't wait till Sunday

[Bulldogs 1962]

People like you are part of the problem. Astounding to think that in this whole episode, the only thing you care to critique is me saying the club have let themselves down in this incident.
So I'm guessing what was said is absolutely fine in your eyes? And me commenting on it is the only part that's out of order?
Firstly, I didn't bring this up. The conversation and the screenshot was being talked about before my comment above was made.

Would have loved to move on from this, but singling me out from all of this is wild. Give your head a wobble.

How many of the people's within said group chat are actually from Dudley (are they locals or players brought in from other parts of Newcastle) and how many committee members are in said group also.

I'm not condoning what was said within the chat, but to be calling out a whole community and a club for the words said in a private chat, I hope you have the exact numbers.

I bet there isn't a person on this forum that doesn't have a group chat with something in it that could be looked upon in bad light.

[Panel beater]

I heard the Dudley bloke is actually from a euro family and said it as a joke. like very obviously ironiclly

Can anybody confirm?

[FlatScreen]

I'm more interested to hear Dudley's thoughts on being promoted? Is it good, bad? will they fight the "forced" promotion?