2017 National Premier League thread

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Originally Posted by winner

It doesn't what was said by either Ruben or Scott Smith ( the Olympic player ) .
At the end of the day a First grade coach has over reacted and lashed out ( pushed ) an opposition player. A bad look for our game , A bad look for Magic and for mine a worse look for Northern for sitting on their hands and doing nothing about it.
As usual , they want a club to be the bad guy (Olympic ) and put in a for a formal complaint before they will take any action. Everyone can see what took place and as the governing body, it is Northern's responsibility to deal with this matter

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Quite clearly the article states that Match Officials can submit a report if they deem anything to be worthy of reporting. Obviously the match officials were not concerned by this. So in the theme of the last week of this thread with regards to match officials and abuse of and respect of, it should be respected that the referee didn't have an issue with it and therefore the referees decision should be respected.

There is no love lost between hamilton and magic so don't feel for a minute that hamilton would not have lodged a complaint if they felt they had a case, they would have zero care factor being the bad guy. And further I have to agree that it is strange that an individual would react like Reuben did unprovoked and especially in front of the match officials so I'll see it for what it is and that's a storm in your tea cup. Clearly a nothing incident. Don't let your hatred of magic cloud your judgement.

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Originally Posted by terryk

Quite clearly the article states that Match Officials can submit a report if they deem anything to be worthy of reporting. Obviously the match officials were not concerned by this. So in the theme of the last week of this thread with regards to match officials and abuse of and respect of, it should be respected that the referee didn't have an issue with it and therefore the referees decision should be respected.

There is no love lost between hamilton and magic so don't feel for a minute that hamilton would not have lodged a complaint if they felt they had a case, they would have zero care factor being the bad guy. And further I have to agree that it is strange that an individual would react like Reuben did unprovoked and especially in front of the match officials so I'll see it for what it is and that's a storm in your tea cup. Clearly a nothing incident. Don't let your hatred of magic cloud your judgement.

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Don't let your love of Magic cloud your judgement that a coach putting his hands on an opposition player is ok!

I agree on Ruben though, he hasn't shown any pervious form for over reacting.

is anyone going to discuss the actual games
is that now 7 penalties in 3 games magic have conceded?

[QUOTE=Nou Camp;183331]is anyone going to discuss the actual games
is that now 7 penalties in 3 games magic have conceded ?

It's 7 penalties in their last 3 games at Magic park. Perhaps the coaches rash behaviour rubbing off on his players.
And i still think the stomp by Piddington was way worse than what Zads did. Can anyone post a link to the incident

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Originally Posted by EH9

Don't let your love of Magic cloud your judgement that a coach putting his hands on an opposition player is ok!

I agree on Ruben though, he hasn't shown any pervious form for over reacting.

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Agree! Reuben should keep his hands to himself, but it's hardly a John Kosmina moment! And as I wasn't in the middle of the ground where it took place then I still reserve my judgement as to whether it was provoked or not. I recall Zidane being howled down for head butting Materazzi (I think) during a World Cup game. As time went on it it came out that Zidane was personally abused and reacted the way he did after a slur on his parents. Not saying anything as dramatic has happened her but obviously there is more to the story than anyone here knows, but again a non incident as far as Hamilton, the Match Officials, or Northern NSW are concerned. I would much rather not see Reuben involved in these type of incidents but at least he didn't make a dick of himself swearing and carrying with profanities in front of two young girls and everybody else including other children within earshot of the players tunnel.

Gee whiz

That was handbags

Ruben just walked in shoved Smith and then walked off

If he was really upset at Smith the argument would have kept going but Ruben wasn't even interested in Smith

Sure you can't be condoning the physical contact but really??

Players cop more than that during games at set pieces and in back play and when a ball is 50-50

I watched Olympic v Edgy last week in the cup
One of the Olympic players was quite lucky to get away with a stomp as well

I don't think the ref spotted it live
But the crowd did

Got it on pretty good word that Hamilton Olympic have spoken to Pete Mcgunniess about coaching next yr?

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Originally Posted by Football lover

Got it on pretty good word that Hamilton Olympic have spoken to Pete Mcgunniess about coaching next yr?

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100%

Nothing new, they've asked him for the past 5

So why he knock them back and coaching Buds??

It ain't think he getting better cash for the gig at Buds

Valo 3-1

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Grand final replay and there's no-one here. Are Magic fans staying away this season?

Edgy up 1-0 after 5. Another long day for Rubes and co.?

Edgy 2-0 Magic at HT. Could have had another 2 or 3. It's a walk in the park at the moment.

3-0 Edgy at FT. As comfortable as it gets. Bradbery & Virgili are one trick ponies who's one trick barely works anymore- the rest of the Magic stalwarts look old and wayyyy past it. Rubes has no hope until he can make significant changes. Edgy on the other hand look a like a well oiled machine. My money's on them to make it a hat trick of titles this year.

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Originally Posted by halo se7en

3-0 Edgy at FT. As comfortable as it gets. Bradbery & Virgili are one trick ponies who's one trick barely works anymore- the rest of the Magic stalwarts look old and wayyyy past it. Rubes has no hope until he can make significant changes. Edgy on the other hand look a like a well oiled machine. My money's on them to make it a hat trick of titles this year.

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Edgy will go close to winning it all again those guys all understand the system zany wants them playing hence even if he starts blokes on the bench they still don't seem to miss a trick. Could have been more then 3 yesterday they were toying with Magic. Never got out of 2nd gear


Magic on the other hand it's amazing to see them losing every week they have blokes who are old and slow and just can't cut it anymore. Get rid of Peter Haynes for starters.

There is a certain coach leaving maybe get him over next yr cause the players don't seem to wanna play for Ruben!

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Originally Posted by Football lover

Edgy will go close to winning it all again those guys all understand the system zany wants them playing hence even if he starts blokes on the bench they still don't seem to miss a trick. Could have been more then 3 yesterday they were toying with Magic. Never got out of 2nd gear


Magic on the other hand it's amazing to see them losing every week they have blokes who are old and slow and just can't cut it anymore. Get rid of Peter Haynes for starters.

There is a certain coach leaving maybe get him over next yr cause the players don't seem to wanna play for Ruben!

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bit harsh to signal out a bloke who for more then 10 years has blead and won countless of matches for this team..
im more worried about the guys under 25 who should be having a good hard look at themselves, Bradury , faj ,vigili etc,
these guys are at the age to demolish teams with there experience,speed,fitness etc, but kids these days dont have the mogrel in them like previous magic players have had.

Anyone know where you can view the points accumulated in the player of the year race?

Confirmed on the Herald web page. Bolch has been moved on from Hamilton next year and even though it doesn't say it , will be replaced by Pete Mcguiness. Bolch linked to Maitland along with a few other guesses by Craig Kerry

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Originally Posted by cobra23

bit harsh to signal out a bloke who for more then 10 years has blead and won countless of matches for this team..
im more worried about the guys under 25 who should be having a good hard look at themselves, Bradury , faj ,vigili etc,
these guys are at the age to demolish teams with there experience,speed,fitness etc, but kids these days dont have the mogrel in them like previous magic players have had.

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But to be perfectly fair Magic should have let Haynes go 2 years ago ideally

It may have seemed harsh but at the time it would have been the right call

Magic's recruitment for the last 3-4 years has been pretty poor really

Haven't addressed midfield control and are too top heavy in attack


Their defence has been terrible for 3-4 years now but they haven't even addressed that

Defence wins titles after all

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Originally Posted by MFKS

But to be perfectly fair Magic should have let Haynes go 2 years ago ideally

It may have seemed harsh but at the time it would have been the right call

Magic's recruitment for the last 3-4 years has been pretty poor really

Haven't addressed midfield control and are too top heavy in attack


Their defence has been terrible for 3-4 years now but they haven't even addressed that

Defence wins titles after all

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This coming from the guy that pedals grow your own

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Originally Posted by De-Champ

This coming from the guy that pedals grow your own

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If they were promoting from within it wouldn't be a problem

Problem is they still buying and not buying right

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Originally Posted by MFKS

If they were promoting from within it wouldn't be a problem

Problem is they still buying and not buying right

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What NPL club in NNSW buys players??

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Originally Posted by MFKS

But to be perfectly fair Magic should have let Haynes go 2 years ago ideally

It may have seemed harsh but at the time it would have been the right call

Magic's recruitment for the last 3-4 years has been pretty poor really

Haven't addressed midfield control and are too top heavy in attack


Their defence has been terrible for 3-4 years now but they haven't even addressed that

Defence wins titles after all

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They desperately need a midfielder who will direct play and provide better service to the front 3, how handy would Cassa be right now !

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Originally Posted by De-Champ

What NPL club in NNSW buys players??

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Don't recall Jaffas promoting much yoof

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Originally Posted by MFKS

Don't recall Jaffas promoting much yoof

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Anyone got any idea on what their wage bill might be? surely 150k or more would have to be the level they are at?

Also, i would GUESS they are spending 30% more than the 2nd highest spenders. Anyone have any opinion on this?

being not for profit organisations arnt clubs suppose to provide all their members with an AGM and detailed accounts of where money is being spent (yes I realise some clubs out there would be cooking the books) that is the first place to start on where clubs money is coming and going

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Originally Posted by Stanley

They desperately need a midfielder who will direct play and provide better service to the front 3, how handy would Cassa be right now !

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Cassa - Seriously ? Have you seen him play this year ? Hasn't tackled anyone since 2010

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Originally Posted by immersion

Anyone got any idea on what their wage bill might be? surely 150k or more would have to be the level they are at?

Also, i would GUESS they are spending 30% more than the 2nd highest spenders. Anyone have any opinion on this?

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More than that

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Originally Posted by MFKS

Don't recall Jaffas promoting much yoof

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But do they buy players??? I don't know of any NPL clubs that buy players..Certain coaches may attract or coerce players to play for a club.

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Originally Posted by immersion

Anyone got any idea on what their wage bill might be? surely 150k or more would have to be the level they are at?

Also, i would GUESS they are spending 30% more than the 2nd highest spenders. Anyone have any opinion on this?

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I would say that their wages bill are not too different form all other NPL clubs. It is you assume their wages are more because they change a number of players each year

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Originally Posted by immersion

Anyone got any idea on what their wage bill might be? surely 150k or more would have to be the level they are at?

Also, i would GUESS they are spending 30% more than the 2nd highest spenders. Anyone have any opinion on this?

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Yep. good luck to them. I'm even starting to watch and it isnt the big names that are impressing.

There will be another team spending overs soon enough taking over top rung.

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Originally Posted by De-Champ

I would say that their wages bill are not too different form all other NPL clubs. It is you assume their wages are more because they change a number of players each year

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more basing it off the fact they have to pay wheelhouse, swancott, remmington, both griffiths and if the numbers thrown as gossip are even close to the mark its some serious cash they are spending this year. And lets throw in their coach, the moneythat has been gossiped around that he is reportedly on is astounding.

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Originally Posted by immersion

more basing it off the fact they have to pay wheelhouse, swancott, remmington, both griffiths and if the numbers thrown as gossip are even close to the mark its some serious cash they are spending this year. And lets throw in their coach, the moneythat has been gossiped around that he is reportedly on is astounding.

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the aussie way, knock a club for taking it up a level, have a good look at yourselves. They should call this the dribble thread. Have a big winge when your club can't cut it.

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Originally Posted by mervan

the aussie way, knock a club for taking it up a level, have a good look at yourselves. They should call this the dribble thread. Have a big winge when your club can't cut it.

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Nice assumption. I didn't criticise Lambton. I only asked a question. I also have no affiliation with any club. But hey, if you want to want to whinge about a discussion on a community board than what a life you must have.

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Originally Posted by mervan

the aussie way, knock a club for taking it up a level, have a good look at yourselves. They should call this the dribble thread. Have a big winge when your club can't cut it.

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Take Chris Sneddon out and Lambton can't cut it either . FACT

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Originally Posted by immersion

more basing it off the fact they have to pay wheelhouse, swancott, remmington, both griffiths and if the numbers thrown as gossip are even close to the mark its some serious cash they are spending this year. And lets throw in their coach, the moneythat has been gossiped around that he is reportedly on is astounding.

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You are assuming a lot in that and you know what assume means. If you do a bit of a calculation, you say $150K in wages add to that say $70K/80K running expenses and you get $220/230k. (add the coaches wage and you are talking $300K+) Where would a local NPL club get that kind of money. Not from gate takings and canteen sales.

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Originally Posted by De-Champ

What NPL club in NNSW buys players??

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Seriously?
There are buying clubs and development clubs.
How many NPL clubs are properly connected to a junior base outside of the NPL stream?
And how many of those actually have a sustainable platform of players from 6's that will feed their 13 NPL teams each year?
Good on those that do - but there arent too many.

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Originally Posted by Barry Dawson

Seriously?
There are buying clubs and development clubs.
How many NPL clubs are properly connected to a junior base outside of the NPL stream?
And how many of those actually have a sustainable platform of players from 6's that will feed their 13 NPL teams each year?
Good on those that do - but there arent too many.

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Which clubs are the buying clubs?