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    If we were 5-0 up at the 70th minute. I am still unsure if we could hold onto that.

    I've never really pushed hard for a manager to be shoved aside but I really do think Stubbins is the worst manager we have had and I can't wait for the day he leaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammydog View Post
    Hearing Stubbins go on about a mentality issue stopping us converting a lead into a win is doing my head in. Can he not see the fitness levels in large part screwing us over from the 60th minute? Maybe thats a large part of not being able to finish the game off.
    I did think it was interesting that he was seemingly happy to point the finger at the players. That's one sure way to get the players on your side, to get them to fight for you so you'll keep your job I'm not saying he's wrong (nor am I saying he's right) but if he needs his players to dig deep, I'm not sure pointing the finger at them is going to work. Look where it got GVE.

    But this mentality thing - Stubbins has mentioned it after pretty much every single loss this season. And apparently, in round 10, it's still an issue. To me, this is another sign that we do not have the right coach to fix our issues. I once again blame the British mentality of Stubbins and Bridges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    I did think it was interesting that he was seemingly happy to point the finger at the players. That's one sure way to get the players on your side, to get them to fight for you so you'll keep your job I'm not saying he's wrong (nor am I saying he's right) but if he needs his players to dig deep, I'm not sure pointing the finger at them is going to work. Look where it got GVE.

    But this mentality thing - Stubbins has mentioned it after pretty much every single loss this season. And apparently, in round 10, it's still an issue. To me, this is another sign that we do not have the right coach to fix our issues. I once again blame the British mentality of Stubbins and Bridges.
    I mentioned this to LiverJet on the way out on Saturday, that I bet he'd mention mentality of the players in his first interview, which he has apparently done on the radio today. It's a broken record and if it's a problem, as you say, why hasn't he fixed it or more importantly is he incapable of fixing it? He seems to be able to identify it as an issue yet not respond. Is this then clouding his judgement to other issues, like fitness as Sammydog mentioned?

    I said at the beginning of the year I'd give him time before I judge him. So far it's not looking good because I don't know if he has the leadership qualities to motivate the team or the ability to adapt our play to exploit the oppositions weakness.
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    This pretty much sums up what I wrote the other day about Stubbins/Bridges score-too-early mentality, vs the majority of the rest of the coaches in the league (from The Herald):

    Merrick replied: ... ‘‘I felt more from our point of view, if you notice our games, when we score one – we have driven into the mentality of ‘Go for another, go for another’. Don’t ever sit back on one or two goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    This pretty much sums up what I wrote the other day about Stubbins/Bridges score-too-early mentality, vs the majority of the rest of the coaches in the league (from The Herald):
    Well its all right,
    cause were a goal in front
    weve gotta sit right back
    till we, fvck it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk View Post
    Well its all right,
    cause were a goal in front
    weve gotta sit right back
    till we, fvck it up
    But when have we actually sat back to absorb pressure? We just get out of shape, have zero fitness to get back into position and let the opposition waltz through chasms in the ****ing backline.

    Pretty sad indictment of how the club is run that Clive Palmer's driver had us in better shape than whoever the **** is prepping us for 60 minutes of football this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
    EDIT: on that topic, would he even be qualified enough to actually be our head coach, even as interim? Doesn't the FFA demand that the head coach need some level of certification?
    When Zane was installed after GVE got the flick and Bridges was the assistant he did not have the coaching qualifications to sit on the bench. The only way he was able to sit on the bench was as a player named in the match day squad. That came from one of the coaches at the club.

    That was only earlier in 2014. Whether he has got them since would not know but it would be a bit hard to find the time between deserting the Yoof team he coaches to **** off to Brasil for the WC or ****ing off to get selfies at EPL games when his side were playing in the GF.

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    Please no to Bridges

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    Quote Originally Posted by joel31 View Post
    Please no to Bridges
    Fvck it.. We are already such a joke..
    Give him the top job, just so that I can get some laughs out of pv4 frothing at the gash..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bon View Post
    Fvck it.. We are already such a joke..
    Give him the top job, just so that I can get some laughs out of pv4 frothing at the gash..
    it is true that we can't get much worse than we are now

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    The club need to address the fans and explain to them why they chose Stubbins as manager given he has absolutely no pedigree as a manager at A-League level.
    If his appointment was based on his time in Thailand then Middleby and Co should hand in their resignations - as Stubbins acheived nothing there either.

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    I would say his appointment was based on that he was the only one available for the money the Jets offered. I can't see any other coach in the A League being on less money than what he is on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by De-Champ View Post
    I would say his appointment was based on that he was the only one available for the money the Jets offered. I can't see any other coach in the A League being on less money than what he is on.
    Zane? If we were going to go with a dirt cheap option, he was the way to go.

    Stubbins is club going for the second cheapest option in the hopes it has some upside.

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    I guess i'm playing devil's advocate but why change tactics when you're 1-0 up? And on Saturday he didn't even have time to blink before we were suddenly 3-1 down and considering the rest of the season, as if the players were EVER going to fire up and get the goals needed, no matter how much he barked and barked at them.

    I'm also not sure exactly how he can just rock up to training and change the mentality of the players as if it's a switch. I'd be more inclined to blame him for not signings players with the right mentality in the first place. We clearly have players who don't care, and every draw and loss only cements their lack of giving a shit even further. How the **** do you convince these so called "professional" footballers to give a shit when they have nothing to play for and they're staring down the barrel of a wooden spoon. Some players probably already have their agents on the phone lining up their next contract elsewhere.

    Until the head is chopped off, we're ****ed.

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    May do nothing, may do everything but by the end of this game, if we lose or draw again I would say give Zane another go. At this point can zane actually do worse?

    If he doesn't work, let griff coach us. He's not a-league level but I'd be damned if he wouldn't put his heart and soul into firing those boys come game day and I know for a fact that with griff as coach I wouldn't be fed bullshit week after week

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    I'd be happy to give Zane another shot. He really didn't do all that badly IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by WolfMan View Post
    I'd be happy to give Zane another shot. He really didn't do all that badly IMHO
    he still wasn't great tactically. I think it was away to Perth or something when the flow of the game was clearly against us but he didn't change anything and we threw away a lead or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by joel31 View Post
    he still wasn't great tactically. I think it was away to Perth or something when the flow of the game was clearly against us but he didn't change anything and we threw away a lead or something
    Well, he was put in as Ass Man (Billy Gunn, where you at?) so he could learn from Stubbins. If he looks at everything Stubbins has done and does differently, he will be a heap better than he was last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joel31 View Post
    he still wasn't great tactically. I think it was away to Perth or something when the flow of the game was clearly against us but he didn't change anything and we threw away a lead or something
    The thing is this. HE may not be great but he is still better than the bloke doing the job now.

    Forgetting the fact we did not make the semis last season the thing that did impress me with Zane was that for the first tie in ages we actually tried to attack at home. We never done that under GVE and we don't under Stubbins. At least under Zane we looked for a second goal and didn't park the bus to the extent we did under GVE or try to under Stubbins

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    On Linkedin this morning...

    Michael Bridges has a new job.

    Now Newcastle Jets Soccer Coach 1st Team & NYL team at Newcastle Jets Football Club.

    Say congrats

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