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    Perhaps the real question is why are there not enough referees?
    The game needs referees just as much as marquee players, just as much as new drainage, just as much as players, coaches and spectators.

    I'd be curious to know how many foz users referee or have refereed at some point. The foz users are some of the most passionate about our game, and if say only 10% of foz users have refereed, that's not speaking too highly for the appeal of being a ref.

    When I first started, the Rooball concept was in full force. And you are refereeing 5 year olds kicking a tiny ball into pieces of PVC pipe. Now, some of the stuff I heard coaches saying, parents yelling out would make you cringe. Now, each year they used to take on 20-30 referees in Macquarie. Not sure as to those figures now. But I daresay you lose about 30% of that original group each year, for various reason. The most common reason and thought process is that it's not worth it.
    So your second year, you start moving up to the full field and maybe go up to U/14s. (This has probably changed due to no refs being needed til what, u12s now?) and you get to deal with all the A grade coaches and parents who thought their children fart Armani cologne or perfume. The stuff you heard at Rooball, it gets worse, parents/coaches make comments after the game as you walk back to the sheds, or line up at the canteen. There's an unhealthy culture in junior sport whereby it seems acceptable to ridicule referees.
    So, if you've made it this far, you start to deal with the testosterone filled adolescents and maybe some representative games. This is where the occasional player dissent from 14 year olds, turns into expletive riddled verbal abuse. From both players and coaches now. Players try and fight each other and tackles become more and more dangerous.
    If you decide you're a sucker for punishment, the next step is all age, with experienced referees mentoring you as a linesman. Now all age is a very mixed bag. As I'm sure most understand. Some P grade games have the nicest guys all just having a fun, kick around in good spirits, whereas the next P grade game is riddled with more swearing, abuse, threats, dangerous tackles, etc. by this stage you decide whether you want to venture into state league referees and do some NPL youth games, where the parents are worse, the coaches are too and the players see mum and dad yelling, their coach yelling and think they can too.

    What I've detailed, some happened to me, some my friends and colleagues. Some games were an absolute pleasure, even the tough and sometimes dirty games, were good. As long as everyone is respectful, there's no worries. As you get older, you can deal with things better. You have passive retorts. You can reason and liaise with players better. You can tell them, "I don't come and swear at you when you make a mistake and miss a shot, what makes me any different to you?". But for young up and coming referees, the abuse is not acceptable and turns people off. As a result, the referees are more inexperienced, and compound the issue.

    Just my 2 cents on the referee situation. For the record, our region is quite lucky to have such a large number of referees. In Sydney, their "park soccer" (all age/juniors) rarely have official referees.

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    I did some Unoffical ref work when I was younger & enjoyed it even though there was abuse. I've played the game, I've officiated other sports & I think I'd do a good job. The thing that stopped me taking it further was that I don't want to Ref Junior or Park matches I want to do State & Zone leagues but I don't have 9hrs of my weekend available to give up. I have enquired about the ability to do one match a day but no dice. You need to be able for all the games on the day. I'm sorry but I can't do that, I have other parts of my life to attend to.

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    I was lucky enough to get away with refereeing state league one day and playing newfm the other back in the day after refereeing juniors and all age for a long time. Commitments to playing and club committees came first and eventually gave up refereeing officially. Family commitments with a young baby and missus as well as injuries sees me only as a spectator these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zzzzzzzzzz View Post
    for the first month of the competition, there are no home games at Thornton, Belmont, Singleton and Kahibah so I'm assuming what northern said is true.... Cricket is the reason for Cahill, possibly Rye Grass for some of the others but at least we still have options.... so that why Baxter...
    Thornton, Singleton and Kahibah also have cricket problems as does Valentine but the other 3 than get care of there ground and do not still have to share.
    I heard valentine have to share with Rugby, Rugby League, Baseball, Netball, Handball and Bingo.

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    Chicks play footy there to

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    Went past cooks hill field today and there's no goal grass hasn't been mowed do they even know that the comp starts tomoz? Lol

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    are we supposed to keep the goals up when we're not playing? we're stupidly been locking them safely away in our shed we got built when we got the grandstand upgraded by lobbying Council

    we're new to this competition and are obviously not across these important rules

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    Quote Originally Posted by boz-monaut View Post
    are we supposed to keep the goals up when we're not playing? we're stupidly been locking them safely away in our shed we got built when we got the grandstand upgraded by lobbying Council

    we're new to this competition and are obviously not across these important rules
    Sorry mate just doesn't look like anyone hasnt been there in 10 years there grass is 3 foot high and no lines marked?

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    people have been there in the past ten years and even though I'm not in charge of such matters, I'm pretty sure the grass has been mown and lines marked

    are you sure you were at the correct place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boz-monaut View Post
    people have been there in the past ten years and even though I'm not in charge of such matters, I'm pretty sure the grass has been mown and lines marked

    are you sure you were at the correct place?
    welcome to NEW FM..... its a tough crowd

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    Quote Originally Posted by boz-monaut View Post
    people have been there in the past ten years and even though I'm not in charge of such matters, I'm pretty sure the grass has been mown and lines marked

    are you sure you were at the correct place?
    There's only 1 Newcastle athletics field right? Not trying to be a rule **** just say what I sore today mate. ✌️

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    Quote Originally Posted by IM A GUNNER! View Post
    There's only 1 Newcastle athletics field right? Not trying to be a rule **** just say what I sore today mate. ✌️
    I just went past the Athletic field and it looks better than ever

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    I went past Newcastle Ath Fld a few months ago. The ground was enclosed and the gates locked. So I must say it was hard to see if the lines were marked and grass in the goal mouths.
    We have been saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IM A GUNNER! View Post
    There's only 1 Newcastle athletics field right? Not trying to be a rule **** just say what I sore today mate. ✌️
    My eyes are bleeding.

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    Athletics field is as good as it gets at the moment - games going well. Talking to one of the Cooks Hill people they have engaged Grant Matthews to advise them, he maintains the Uni fields the Jets use and helps out Magic and Hamilton with their fields. So they are obviously trying as hard as they can. (Member take note!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by late_to_the_game View Post
    Athletics field is as good as it gets at the moment - games going well. Talking to one of the Cooks Hill people they have engaged Grant Matthews to advise them, he maintains the Uni fields the Jets use and helps out Magic and Hamilton with their fields. So they are obviously trying as hard as they can. (Member take note!)
    Magic have a quality surface. Never thought Olympics was the greatest though

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    Cessnock v Cooks Hill
    Firsts 1 - 1
    23s 2 - 1

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    Cooks Hill should have put the game away several times - but we certainly weren't out classed

    unfortunately the 900 mm grass obscured my view and without lines it was difficult to tell what was going on, also I this guy on the bench for Cessnock obscured my view for a large part of the game


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    Bel swans 1-0 singo

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    Quote Originally Posted by boz-monaut View Post
    Cooks Hill should have put the game away several times - but we certainly weren't out classed

    unfortunately the 900 mm grass obscured my view and without lines it was difficult to tell what was going on, also I this guy on the bench for Cessnock obscured my view for a large part of the game

    Been told lambton Jaffas 22s are after cessnocks 23s Keeper don't know if it's true or not?
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