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    Quote Originally Posted by Premy View Post
    Just because Bridges hung around a season longer than he should have it doesn't negate the good he did beforehand. Bridges brought far more to us then what Montano has done.
    Like Sam Gallagher and some Connexions???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Premy View Post
    Just because Bridges hung around a season longer than he should have it doesn't negate the good he did beforehand. Bridges brought far more to us then what Montano has done.
    When? His one in six goal return is about the same as Montano and Montano has the extra difficulty of not speaking English and being in a team lead by negative nubbins.

    Montano also had nothing to do with forcing out players he didn't like.

    What exactly did self serving Mr Right Connexions ever actually do apart from looking after his own skin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    When? His one in six goal return is about the same as Montano and Montano has the extra difficulty of not speaking English and being in a team lead by negative nubbins.

    Montano also had nothing to do with forcing out players he didn't like.

    What exactly did self serving Mr Right Connexions ever actually do apart from looking after his own skin?
    I'll give you the run in with Ljubo but everything else is just pure speculation, don't get confused with passing rumors of as fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Premy View Post
    I'll give you the run in with Ljubo but everything else is just pure speculation, don't get confused with passing rumors of as fact.
    What's speculative about his goal return, playing in a far better side and under a better manager? I'll give you the speaking English bit, fecking Geordie.

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    His goal return was better than Montano is and Montano is out here with far younger legs then what Bridges had.
    Comparing the 2 is chalk and cheese.

    Montano has been ordinary at best and has done nothing for the club to make the loan a permanent deal. Visa spot and a goal every 8 games, money and spuad space better spent elsewhere.

    Sign him up Tinks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Premy View Post
    His goal return was better than Montano is and Montano is out here with far younger legs then what Bridges had.
    Comparing the 2 is chalk and cheese.

    Montano has been ordinary at best and has done nothing for the club to make the loan a permanent deal. Visa spot and a goal every 8 games, money and spuad space better spent elsewhere.

    Sign him up Tinks
    12 goals, 66 matches in a far better side and under better coaching while speaking the same language.
    3 goals, 22 matches under Stubbins, completely and utterly isolated up top, not a single squad member speaking the same language.

    At his current rate, Montano would have 9 in 66... hardly a difference that make Bridges "much better". More like chalk and chalk of a different colour.

    If he wasn't robbed of that goal on the weekend, he would have the exact same goals per game. And if Edson scores two more goals before the end of the season, he has a better goal per game return than Bridges.

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    Also, MontaƱo hasn't opened any small bars or revitalised an iconic Novocastrian nightspot

    I mean, what's he playing at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    12 goals, 66 matches in a far better side and under better coaching while speaking the same language.
    3 goals, 22 matches under Stubbins, completely and utterly isolated up top, not a single squad member speaking the same language.

    At his current rate, Montano would have 9 in 66... hardly a difference that make Bridges "much better". More like chalk and chalk of a different colour.

    If he wasn't robbed of that goal on the weekend, he would have the exact same goals per game. And if Edson scores two more goals before the end of the season, he has a better goal per game return than Bridges.
    How many of those 66 appearances were 15-20 minute stints of the bench towards the end of Bridges time? I would put it up around the 20+ mark.
    Montano had a good squad around him for the first 10 or so games and he was still honking.
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    The "very good squad" that didn't win their opening ten games under the same shit coach playing the same negative tactics?

    Yeah, okay.

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    The Bridges hate is more feral (and bordering on mania) than the BK version sometimes - was he superstar for us? Of course not. His return from retirement was probably not the best move but remember he was asked by the management to reconsider.

    His first run was more than useful, have a look at some of the goals he setup or scored in that period.

    On top of that, he was a major stabiliser when Con turned to shit and again when Tinks first spat the dummy. He provided leadership, pure and simple, at difficult times - could easily have pulled stumps and gone elsewhere.

    I feel that most of the "haters" have it against him purely because he is perceived as the one and only reason Ljubo left. Forget that Kasey also had a serious falling out with him (if you can see a couple of his anti Ljubo interviews anywhere they are quite insulting), or that Ljubo did verbally abuse Bridges wife before Bridgey went for the jugular.

    Much other perception of Bridges around the squad is just that - perception.

    Bridges has left the building - I don't know why he is constantly brought up for no apparent reason by the "manics".

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    I hate all of our players.

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    haha remember when ljubes went to smash sash's car window with his boots

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetmaster View Post

    Bridges has left the building - I don't know why he is constantly brought up for no apparent reason by the "manics".
    Better not listen to the Jetstream podcast this week...
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    Great. He's gone from Liaoning Whowin to Newcastle Wholose.
    The Championship Chronicles - The Jetstream's review of the 2007/08 season. www.newcastlefootball.net/chronicles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    Better not listen to the Jetstream podcast this week...
    So you had pv4 back on the show again?

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    I know I pretty much brought him up and I'm sorry to my fellow haters for doing so. I'm more than happy not to mention or hear about him again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    12 goals, 66 matches in a far better side and under better coaching while speaking the same language.
    3 goals, 22 matches under Stubbins, completely and utterly isolated up top, not a single squad member speaking the same language.

    At his current rate, Montano would have 9 in 66... hardly a difference that make Bridges "much better". More like chalk and chalk of a different colour.

    If he wasn't robbed of that goal on the weekend, he would have the exact same goals per game. And if Edson scores two more goals before the end of the season, he has a better goal per game return than Bridges.
    Quote Originally Posted by Premy View Post
    How many of those 66 appearances were 15-20 minute stints of the bench towards the end of Bridges time? I would put it up around the 20+ mark.
    Montano had a good squad around him for the first 10 or so games and he was still honking.
    OK, I'll add a bit of data here. I'll even throw Heskey in there for shits and giggles. I'd love to compare a similar player with the language barrier such as Song (but he isn't a striker), Zura and Jardel but they never scored. Jeffers isn't worth the bother nor is Misura. This is about Visa players so not bringing in Griff, Ryu and Taggz. I could throw Brockie in there but he doesn't have the language barrier.

    I think it's fair to compare 1st seasons. Bridges got 6 in 15 games, Montano 3 from 22. Heskey 9 in 23 (overall Heskey got 10 in 42 with us).

    If you're going to compare it's probably fair to compare on goals per minute played over their Jets career

    BRIDGES - one goal every 245 minutes played
    MONTANO - 517 minutes per goal.
    HSEKEY - 312 minutes per goal.

    Then think about assists - last weekend was the first Montano has provided. Bridges provided 5, Heskey 4.

    Bridges surrounded by a better team? Without a doubt. But look at who Montano was surrounded with pre-sacking (round 15) when he was surrounded by your Carneys, Kews, Celeskis and Griffs not to mention Hoole, Flores and Neumann...his goals per minute then?

    MONTANO - A goal every 337 minutes.

    Montano was also more clinical pre-sacking. He had, in 15 games, 18 shots on goal, 8 of which were on target and 3 of those he scored from. Since then he's had more shots per game (21 in 7) and is yet to score*

    Montano when he first arrived and started scoring he was scoring on about par with Bridges. Since the change in tactics, and his isolation, it's my summation the service has dried up, any sniff of goal he's having a hit but also we've removed other options for scoring so he's feeling a level of responsibility to carry the team because let's face it, Scott Neville and Lee Ki-Je are the only two close to him in the scoring charts. Plus I've noticed a change in his demeanor recently. I think there's something else going on...

    * Source of Data HAL Website
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    Great. He's gone from Liaoning Whowin to Newcastle Wholose.
    The Championship Chronicles - The Jetstream's review of the 2007/08 season. www.newcastlefootball.net/chronicles

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    Stuff it - here's Brockie, Griff, Ryu, Labi, Sash and Taggz.

    This is A-League only and doesn't include ACL, pre-season etc


    BROCKIE - 11 in 41 matches and scored every 261 minutes. Provided 5 assists
    Griff - 34 in 83 and scored every 197 minutes. Provided 9 assists
    Ryan Griff - 19 goals in 56 and scored every 256 minutes. Provided 14 assists
    Labinot Haliti - 15 in 92 and scored every 316. 5 assists.
    Sash - 8 in 35 and scored every 137 minutes. 0 assists
    Taggz - 18 in 44 and scored every 168 minutes and provided 5 assists. We really had a special player here.
    Franco Parisi - 2 in 9 but still scored every 96.5 minutes!!
    Mark Bridge - 13 in 50 and scored every 293. 11 assists.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Great. He's gone from Liaoning Whowin to Newcastle Wholose.
    The Championship Chronicles - The Jetstream's review of the 2007/08 season. www.newcastlefootball.net/chronicles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetmaster View Post
    The Bridges hate is more feral (and bordering on mania) than the BK version sometimes - was he superstar for us? Of course not. His return from retirement was probably not the best move but remember he was asked by the management to reconsider.

    His first run was more than useful, have a look at some of the goals he setup or scored in that period.

    On top of that, he was a major stabiliser when Con turned to shit and again when Tinks first spat the dummy. He provided leadership, pure and simple, at difficult times - could easily have pulled stumps and gone elsewhere.

    I feel that most of the "haters" have it against him purely because he is perceived as the one and only reason Ljubo left. Forget that Kasey also had a serious falling out with him (if you can see a couple of his anti Ljubo interviews anywhere they are quite insulting), or that Ljubo did verbally abuse Bridges wife before Bridgey went for the jugular.

    Much other perception of Bridges around the squad is just that - perception.

    Bridges has left the building - I don't know why he is constantly brought up for no apparent reason by the "manics".
    This.

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    Franco Parisi - 2 in 9 but still scored every 96.5 minutes!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by q-money View Post
    I put that one in there for a few of you guys especially.
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    Great. He's gone from Liaoning Whowin to Newcastle Wholose.
    The Championship Chronicles - The Jetstream's review of the 2007/08 season. www.newcastlefootball.net/chronicles

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