There goes development, it's win at all costs now
There goes development, it's win at all costs now
Based on last years relegated team South Cardiff, would they still have been relegated if it worked on club championship points ???Originally Posted by Why Blue
Would it be 4pts first grade, 3pts U22 and 2pts U19 to get a total score, i think thats how it used to work.
Would be interested if someone had the time to go over the last five years.
Who would be promoted ? Lakes and Wallsend im thinking
first grade was 8 pts win, u22's 4pts win... u19's 2 pts win... no points for youth grades... half points for draw
Edgy 550
Olympic 494
Magic 462
Jaffas 462
Weston 366
Adamstown 322
Jets 322
Blues 220
Maitland 192
Southy 179
Many move away for uni or work in the following few years but until then normally play in the local mens premier leagues.
Any that come to Newie for uni may be a good pick up for local npl/newfm sides? This is possibly something that some Newie clubs should be looking at when they play the regional zone older teams.
I did up a table of this season. Can't remember if I posted it a little while or not.
I think there was 1-2 rounds left, and Maitland was last. But I think they overtook Southy with their results in the last round. Still, it was very tight.
I'd like to see this tbh.
I've spoken before about what I believe to be benefits of this system.
I don't know what happens of the bottom team isn't bottom of the club championship though. They could play off? Loser is relegated. Can't really complain about it if they know before the season starts, kind of a second chance saloon for whoever finishes last.
Only challenge is, the fate of an entire club could be relying on the shoulders of an under 19s team. (Yeh it's the seniors fault for being in that position), but some clubs could out quite a bit of pressure on their lower grades.
And do some clubs hold back some of their players to get some easy wins? This would be the negative, when the aim is to have a competitive Comp and develop younger players.
This is what I had, I think this was before the last 2 rounds. Maitland got a few results in last 2 rounds to take then above.South Cardiff:
First Grade (10th) -.....2 Wins, 3 draws ---> 28 Points
22s.............(6th) -.....5 Wins, 2 Draws ---> 24 Points
19s.............(9th) -.....4 Wins, 3 Draws ---> 11 Points
Total: 63 Points
Maitland FC:
First Grade (9th) -.......3 Wins, 3 draws ---> 36 Points
22s (10th)-...... 2 Wins, 4 Draws ---> 16 Points
19s (10th)-.......4 Wins, 2 Draws ---> 10 Points
Total: 62 Points.
Overseas atm so don't have access to computer to check-do new things.
Interesting debate though.
With NTC team games now finished and EJ's finishing with 2 wins and 4 losses, wins over NT & SA but losses to Vic, Tassi, Perth & Qld
Question Is that a reasonable performance from EJ's
Of course it's not a reasonable performance. Every state will always beat NT. To be beaten by tassie would not have been expected by ej officials u wouldn't think. So all in all, a disappointing result for mine, although in line with recent years ntc and nationals I guess.
Probably not, but if that's the best we have and they performed at thier best and received best coaching available, than that is ok
The question is are they the best ???
Have heard that one striker who has been missing goals up front for 4 years now in this program missed some pretty simple 1 v 1's
New recruit being asked to play completely different to how he has been playing for the last ten years, I know it's the ciriculum but hey this kid has never played as per the ciriculum
And let's face it this squad is not really defensively sound, thank god they have a great keeper
Coaching had to be inconsistent with NTC coach thrown in at last minute
So as hamburgler said ......in line with recent performances
But no better for all this extra training, new facilities , more $$$$$$
Last edited by Why Blue; 04-12-2015 at 07:02 PM.
classic results from a cash driven system . northern need to kick the can and make these squads and programs more affordable for average joes . we all know there are so many talented kids running around whos parents simply cant pay the fees asked . for the sake of true development give these kids a chance . one less fleet car should cover it .
Have just found out the NNSW have employed some one to coordinate the refs for the premier competitions.
Each team in every comp will be paying $100 for the year to support this. So NPL x 7 teams, NewFM x 4 teams and WPL x 4 teams.
If they put $1 on top of every registration in the NNSW area they would have more than enough money to make the program free for all 'elite' players of the area. It is a must if we want to provide our best kids with the opportunity to have exposure to the best our area has to offer. PLEASE NOTE: common sense will not prevail
Money would be better spent employing someone to improve the quality of the refereeing
And Blue man it would be of great surprise to every one that this one and only new addition to this years U/15 EJ squad is the son of a long standing committee worker at the club from which he came
Very hard not to be cynical
Thanks for your efforts over the years
Okay, explain why little Johnny who is playing u/12 J grade for Dungog should have to pay for a kid playing NPL to be able to play for free?
Middleby Gone
Lawrie Out
Any extra Rego that is tacked on should be going into coaching and facilities.
Cause we keep hearing the issue of the best kids missing out on opportunities and I made a suggestion to fix the problem. Who knows, even little Johnny might benefit from the suggestion.
Happy to hear your suggestion.
I strongly believe that NNSWF should not spend one dollar on the EJ's program, if it can support itself through it's own rego fees and sponsorship than ok, but it doesn't, let alone the money NNSWF spends on WLeague
We all know ( well most) that a portion of every man, women & child's rego goes to NNSWF what we need is better transparency of were that money goes
It should be spent on improving facilities, helping club administrators and providing better coaching for ALL not just select few what about those EJ coaches went to clubs and spread the gospel ??
Just imagine if the $11 mill spent at RFF Speers point had been spent throughout the community
OR if all clubs had access to this facility to train on instead of weeks of training being lost due to wet weather etc, but no every night 2-3 elite teams train and that's it, I know clubs can but at a substancial cost to them or the parents
And why are they still called emerging jets when the jets haven't kicked the tin for two years ??? Or more ???
Was it an acceptable performance? Not sure.
From what I heard, NT (9) and Tas (6) both had a number of overage players in their squads to help bolster their teams.
I have not heard that that the EJ 15's were thoroughly beaten in any game - 1 goal difference in every loss? My mail suggested that games were lost on one or two simple mistakes that were capitalised on by the opposition. Illustrates the need for these kids should be playing in a higher level of competition week in - week out.
When considering the population that each of the other states pull from and the competitions they play in - maybe the performance is not so bad. E.g. NSW Metro and Vic have 4-5 kids of equal strength to pull from in each position - which drives a really healthy level of competition for places in these squads. Do we have this level of depth in Newcastle? Not sure.
Interesting you have targeted an individual in the team for criticism...at the end of the day, these are kids, who are selected by others and are out there doing their best. I think you should remember that. (Regardless of whether you think they should have or not) that team I thought won the NPL 17's GF last year - so they cannot be all bad.
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