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    Quote Originally Posted by The Camel View Post
    Sounded in the article that we may not have had to pay him out completely, I took it as he wanted out to go play NPL in Sydney.
    I interpreted the article the same way. Player wanted to leave and club agreed to release him.

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    Mutual termination = no pay out.


    I thnk.
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    I tend to agree with Gav.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazFish35 View Post
    Mutual termination = no pay out.


    I thnk.
    I think it's an agreed amount. Which very well may be nothing if both parties agree to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazFish35 View Post
    Mutual termination = no pay out.


    I thnk.
    Nah, not quite. Just means they came to a mutual agreement about how much he would get of what he had on his contract. It could have been as little as nothing or saying we would pay out the rest of this season, it could be as much as his entire deal.

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    Down to 20 contracted players now so any other departures will need to be replaced.

    Losing Themba is good for the squad and strengthens the case to re-sign Kanta. You would think Lundy and Baressi will be gone at the end of the season.

    Of the off contract players

    Let go

    Lundy
    Barresi
    Watson
    Alivodic

    And the wait and see how they perform over the last 9 games

    Trifunovic
    Leonardo
    Kitto
    Nobby

    Must re-sign list

    Birraz
    Kanta
    Hoffman

    Priority will need to sign a LB and a foreign replacement for Enver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Nah, not quite. Just means they came to a mutual agreement about how much he would get of what he had on his contract. It could have been as little as nothing or saying we would pay out the rest of this season, it could be as much as his entire deal.
    Correct me if I'm wrong but any payout is included in the cap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Premy View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but any payout is included in the cap?
    Yep. Depending on how much, maybe they could have squeezed some of his payout (if any) for next year into this years cap leaving us the whole cap (that we won't spend) next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borat View Post
    Down to 20 contracted players now so any other departures will need to be replaced.

    Losing Themba is good for the squad and strengthens the case to re-sign Kanta. You would think Lundy and Baressi will be gone at the end of the season.

    Of the off contract players

    Let go

    Lundy
    Barresi
    Watson
    Alivodic

    And the wait and see how they perform over the last 9 games

    Trifunovic
    Leonardo
    Kitto
    Nobby

    Must re-sign list

    Birraz
    Kanta
    Hoffman

    Priority will need to sign a LB and a foreign replacement for Enver
    Basically my same thoughts.
    Although I'm ready to cut Leo now. I feel his just not worth the risk, his missed close to half the season due to injury or fitness.
    With Nobby to have a full pre-season after having the rest of this season to settle into Australian Football/Life at this point time is a better option than Leo.
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    I'd move Alivodic to the "wait n see" list.

    I don't know what Kanta's done to be a "must re-sign".
    Especially now that Poljak and Urga could possibly be called our first choice DMs.

    just my 2c,
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    Although I'm ready to cut Leo now
    seriously? remember that leo got clamped by that gypo and was out through no fault of his own for much of that time

    we've looked tons better with him in the squad in the past two weeks. let the rest of the year be the guide imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guerny View Post
    I'd move Alivodic to the "wait n see" list.

    I don't know what Kanta's done to be a "must re-sign".
    Especially now that Poljak and Urga could possibly be called our first choice DMs.

    just my 2c,
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    Must sign is the wrong choice of words. I more mean should be offered a new deal.

    Kanta can comfortably play both DM and CB which makes him highly valuable in that you are basically needing 2 players if you lose him. You want 4 CBs and 4 DMs in your squad but with Kanta we can get away with 7 players for the 4 positions.

    I actually quite like Enver and certainly don't think he is nearly as bad as his detractors will have you think. Made the HAL team of the week and still got pasted on here. BUT in saying that, has been here long enough to see what he offers and am confident enough that Scott Miller can recruit a quality replacement. The question then will be what position do we look to strengthen. We could replace like for like but with a really pacey wide man or sign Kitto to replace Enver and then look for a foreign No 6. That option would be good but unlikely as long as we also have Poljak

    For mine Nobby still needs to make the starting team by year end and perform to be re-signed as I don't believe we should be signing any foreign player to sit on the bench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Nah, not quite. Just means they came to a mutual agreement about how much he would get of what he had on his contract. It could have been as little as nothing or saying we would pay out the rest of this season, it could be as much as his entire deal.
    . You would think he received the remainder of this seasons income and hopefully very little of next years

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    Quote Originally Posted by q-money View Post
    seriously? remember that leo got clamped by that gypo and was out through no fault of his own for much of that time

    we've looked tons better with him in the squad in the past two weeks. let the rest of the year be the guide imo
    Exactly, there was no issue at all with his fitness until he was chopped down. He has struggled to catch up after that incident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borat View Post
    Must sign is the wrong choice of words. I more mean should be offered a new deal.

    Kanta can comfortably play both DM and CB which makes him highly valuable in that you are basically needing 2 players if you lose him. You want 4 CBs and 4 DMs in your squad but with Kanta we can get away with 7 players for the 4 positions.

    I actually quite like Enver and certainly don't think he is nearly as bad as his detractors will have you think. Made the HAL team of the week and still got pasted on here. BUT in saying that, has been here long enough to see what he offers and am confident enough that Scott Miller can recruit a quality replacement. The question then will be what position do we look to strengthen. We could replace like for like but with a really pacey wide man or sign Kitto to replace Enver and then look for a foreign No 6. That option would be good but unlikely as long as we also have Poljak

    For mine Nobby still needs to make the starting team by year end and perform to be re-signed as I don't believe we should be signing any foreign player to sit on the bench.
    Kanta also did have the run at attacking mid this season so he is very versatile. I'd never play him there but it's good knowing he can be there. Get an owner, have the loyalty player or whatever used to get most of his salary outside the cap and there is no reason not to keep him honestly

    As i've said, the biggest problem with Enver comes that he is a foreigner, that spot he takes up could be used so much more effectively. He has moments, and if those amazing moments were consistent you'd have an incredible player but they're not. I'd say use the foreign spot on left back, as it seems harder to find an aussie left back then it does a winger, and instead of signing a foreign no.6 I'd use the space and try seeing if we could grab Lustica from Brisbane who I believe is off contract, as well as Devante Clut if we're still keen on him to cover in the attacking mid role

    Very true when it pertains to Nobby, needs to show he can get his fitness up but he is a beast player, Leo and him both with full off-seasons in the same team would be killer
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    Nordy will start soon I imagine and show everyone that he can be deployed over many positions in the final third. However I do believe he is best suited centrally. Can thread a ball and a good link man for the big milos.

    Milos is a clear retention. Get players in who work around him.

    Leo needs to have a direct improvement on the team in the next few weeks through way of improving his goalscoring/assist output. Makes stuff happen but it means nothing if you beat 4 players for skill and then have no execution or end game. None of his passes stuck in brissy and that really hurt us on occasion.

    The question that truly needs to be asked before re-signing is .. Would any of those players break into a starting team of thw top4/6 ? That's who we should be chasing.. Not sure kanta is that guy.. 7 yellows? 1 red?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammydog View Post
    Exactly, there was no issue at all with his fitness until he was chopped down. He has struggled to catch up after that incident.
    What? He was playing 60 mins max every second match before he got chopped down. Fitness and knee concerns have always been the issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammydog View Post
    Exactly, there was no issue at all with his fitness until he was chopped down. He has struggled to catch up after that incident.
    Quote Originally Posted by q-money View Post
    seriously? remember that leo got clamped by that gypo and was out through no fault of his own for much of that time

    we've looked tons better with him in the squad in the past two weeks. let the rest of the year be the guide imo
    He hadn't played for 18 months before he got here, it took him from memory 3-4 weeks to get through a full 90 minutes. He missed one game after the Gypo challenge, so that's not where his injury came from, his had 12 appearance 2 from the bench and his yet to score.
    Yes his quality at times but he does lack the end product so with all that known I feel his to much of a risk and there is better value for money out there.
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    Kanta isn't good enough to start in any of the 4 positions he has played this year and earns as much as 4 benchwarmers. We can't use the loyalty card to blind judgement when we have a salary cap to adhere to. If he really is loyal he will drop his wage down to the same as Watson, who he will effectively be replacing next year if he stays. Benchwarmer/fill-in/traffic cone/all-round numpty...

    I'd assume Miller is already looking for players for next season in some capacity but i wonder if the FFA won't want to do any paperwork and will just resign everyone to save on trips up the F3?
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    surely at least a portion of the two BKs wages are in the "home grown" allocation of the salary cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
    Kanta isn't good enough to start in any of the 4 positions he has played this year and earns as much as 4 benchwarmers. We can't use the loyalty card to blind judgement when we have a salary cap to adhere to. If he really is loyal he will drop his wage down to the same as Watson, who he will effectively be replacing next year if he stays. Benchwarmer/fill-in/traffic cone/all-round numpty...

    I'd assume Miller is already looking for players for next season in some capacity but i wonder if the FFA won't want to do any paperwork and will just resign everyone to save on trips up the F3?
    Have to disagree with that sorry.
    In many of the games earlier in the season before his Red Card his was our best on ground.
    3-0 down at City and Kanta stepped up dragged the rest of the team with him and rescued a point. When asked his played out of position and filled in adequately, being a utility player isn't as easy as it seems and is rather frustrating as you feel no position belongs to you. Yet Kanta puts that aside week in week out and does his best for the team.
    You say we shouldn't be blinded by loyalty in a Salary Cap League, News Flash there is now a loyalty exemption in the salary cap that Kanta fits into and no one deservesit more than him.
    His well on his way to becoming a true Club servant and besides the one minior King St issue his conducted himself as a true professional on and of the feild all of this whilst still only being 23 and showing maturity well beyond his years.
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