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    Quote Originally Posted by borat View Post
    Not at all.

    I am saying imo Lustica is an upgrade on Poljak.....but I wouldn't sign him because I don't beleive we need both players. If Poljak was off contract I would think otherwise
    That makes even less sense.
    You are saying he is a better player than the incumbent and you would sign him but not now??

    So your basically saying you would rather we kept players who are not as good as starting XI members than strengthen the squad with better players.

    Bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    That makes even less sense.
    You are saying he is a better player than the incumbent and you would sign him but not now??

    So your basically saying you would rather we kept players who are not as good as starting XI members than strengthen the squad with better players.

    Bizarre.
    You understand the concept of a salary cap right? I mean it's kind of a fundamental element in this league. Or is it you just want to argue for the hell of it.

    We have 2 quality starting DMs and a quality backup. As much as I rate Lustica above 2 of those players, signing another would be a waste of the salary cap.

    And as far as "I would rather keep"..........the incumbents are under contract. I am working on the wild assumption we can't just rip up contracts when someone else comes along.

    [edit] all of the above is my personal opinion.

    However I have been told from a reliable source we have signed him already. My earlier post was asking if anyone had heard similar

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    Can we all agree that lustica would most definitely be an upgrade on watson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borat View Post
    You understand the concept of a salary cap right? I mean it's kind of a fundamental element in this league. Or is it you just want to argue for the hell of it.

    We have 2 quality starting DMs and a quality backup. As much as I rate Lustica above 2 of those players, signing another would be a waste of the salary cap.

    And as far as "I would rather keep"..........the incumbents are under contract. I am working on the wild assumption we can't just rip up contracts when someone else comes along.

    [edit] all of the above is my personal opinion.

    However I have been told from a reliable source we have signed him already. My earlier post was asking if anyone had heard similar
    Salary cap??

    You understand you can release players who are under contract if you can find someone better to do the job??
    You understand we didn't have to resign Kanta if we believed we could find better players??

    You also understand that we have room under the salary cap alrwady as we released numerous players in the last couple of weeks so the opportunity is there to sign a better CM than the incumbent players??


    I wouldn't sign Lustica though the bloke is an enigma.
    I would though be looking at signing a player for CM that is superior to our incumbents. It is a key role in the side and it is in my eyes imperative we sign superior quality in this position this off season

    A bloke of sufficient quality in this part of the park is a better investment than us wasting our money on a No10 or a No 9 ofn big money

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Salary cap??

    You understand you can release players who are under contract if you can find someone better to do the job??
    You understand we didn't have to resign Kanta if we believed we could find better players??

    You also understand that we have room under the salary cap alrwady as we released numerous players in the last couple of weeks so the opportunity is there to sign a better CM than the incumbent players??


    I wouldn't sign Lustica though the bloke is an enigma.
    I would though be looking at signing a player for CM that is superior to our incumbents. It is a key role in the side and it is in my eyes imperative we sign superior quality in this position this off season

    A bloke of sufficient quality in this part of the park is a better investment than us wasting our money on a No10 or a No 9 ofn big money
    I get it. You don't agree with my opinion or understand my argument. But now you are just being a d*ck. I posted an opinion that I would make a pragmatic decision not to sign a player and I get bombarded with your tired circular arguments you delight in.

    Any player we release obviously has to be mutually agreed and any payout included in the cap. As we currently owned by the FFA and spend the cap floor....paying out players would be counter productive

    But you would know this yeah. Seriously your trolling in the off season is particularly lame but this is scraping even lower than your usual standards.



    So ignoring the the white noise, as we only currently spend the cap floor Lustica would provide depth and would provide 3 DM/CMs pushing for 2 starting positions. Was stuck behind McKay and Carona at Brisbane, appreciated by Roar fans who didn't want him to leave and Steve Ug's cousin to boot.

    If we have signed him then I can see the positives even if it wouldn't be my choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommyjet View Post
    Can we all agree that lustica would most definitely be an upgrade on watson.
    lol yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by borat View Post
    I get it. You don't agree with my opinion or understand my argument. But now you are just being a d*ck. I posted an opinion that I would make a pragmatic decision not to sign a player and I get bombarded with your tired circular arguments you delight in.

    Any player we release obviously has to be mutually agreed and any payout included in the cap. As we currently owned by the FFA and spend the cap floor....paying out players would be counter productive

    But you would know this yeah. Seriously your trolling in the off season is particularly lame but this is scraping even lower than your usual standards.



    So ignoring the the white noise, as we only currently spend the cap floor Lustica would provide depth and would provide 3 DM/CMs pushing for 2 starting positions. Was stuck behind McKay and Carona at Brisbane, appreciated by Roar fans who didn't want him to leave and Steve Ug's cousin to boot.

    If we have signed him then I can see the positives even if it wouldn't be my choice.
    So disagreeing with you is trolling now is it??

    You said he was a superior player than the incumbents and then said the incumbents are quality and that you wouldn't sign him
    I just pulled you up on this bizarre statement

    Then you said you would sign him if Poljak was off contract but he isn't
    So I pulled you up on it again.

    That's not me trolling you.

    That is me challenging your inconsistent argument you are putting up with the prospect of us signing him.

    As for the argument going around in circles with salary cap wages etc you offered that up as not me.
    I just pointed out we have money we have squad space. to sign him. With Watson's loss we are one short in the CM position anyway

    Signing Lustica is basically a decision based on whether he good enough and if Millertime thinks he works for his vision or whether he wants to sign a higher standard player in this role.

    So not think I trolling you.
    I just discussing it OK??

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    Miller may be looking at this differently though. Maybe he's signed Kanta more so with the idea that he'd be our CB back-up as opposed to CM, with Lustica being the CM back-up to possible starting depending how the season ends up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark325 View Post
    Miller may be looking at this differently though. Maybe he's signed Kanta more so with the idea that he'd be our CB back-up as opposed to CM, with Lustica being the CM back-up to possible starting depending how the season ends up
    We needed to call on 5 different players in the middle of the park this year - Poljak, Watson, Kantarovski, Cowburn and Ugarkovic. Miller likes a versatile player so Cowburn and Kantarovski fit that bill.

    Lustica seems a little odd to me because I would use that position for a left back, particularly as Miller sees Cowburn primarily as a midfield option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommyjet View Post
    Can we all agree that lustica would most definitely be an upgrade on watson.

    99.99% of the worlds population would be an improvement on Watson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark325 View Post
    Miller may be looking at this differently though. Maybe he's signed Kanta more so with the idea that he'd be our CB back-up as opposed to CM, with Lustica being the CM back-up to possible starting depending how the season ends up
    That's what I suspect he is doing. Going with 3 players for every 2 defensive positions. It's a risky approach and would be more comfortable if he signed at least one more defensive player who can cover multiple positions:

    Centre Backs

    Boogs
    Mullen
    Kanta

    Fullbacks

    Cowburn
    Hoff
    Jackson

    Defensive Midfielders

    Ugarkovic
    Poljak
    Lustica*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    Miller sees Cowburn primarily as a midfield option.
    Miller makes it clear in the Herald today that He sees Cowburn as a fullback, comparing his stats to Jamison

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    If I'm not mistaken Jackson has also played central so he offers cover for all of the 4 positions across the back.
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    Would much rather we hold off on Lustica.
    Wait until Martin takes the reigns and talk him into bringing Jimmy home for the CDM spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Premy View Post
    Would much rather we hold off on Lustica.
    Wait until Martin takes the reigns and talk him into bringing Jimmy home for the CDM spot.
    Thats the my thinking too, may not need to wait too long for martin it seems

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    Casterlen has been released the Wanderers would be worth looking at.

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    If they manage to bring Jimmy home I might just say some nice things about this stupid club and will def never shop at rovert ever again.

    Make it happen Tinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foti68 View Post
    Casterlen has been released the Wanderers would be worth looking at.
    They have also released
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    Quote Originally Posted by Premy View Post
    If I'm not mistaken Jackson has also played central so he offers cover for all of the 4 positions across the back.
    He is a CD by trade.

    He ain't a left back at all based on his ability on the ball on the flank. He is lost in attack at LB. He though does grasp the defending aspect reasonably well but his attack is about 1/100 for mine

    He ain't a Right Back either so I wouldn't be putting him in as cover

    He is a CD

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    Quote Originally Posted by foti68 View Post
    Casterlen has been released the Wanderers would be worth looking at.
    Yes please!
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