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    Reserves v firsts with firsts working on defensive shape and playing out under a high press.
    Reggies always win.

    Move on.
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    I tend to agree with Gav.

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    excuses

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post

    It is a collection of 15 year olds from the 6th largest city in the country
    So we are the 6th largest city when it suits you to make a point that we aren't very good, and there are 5 better cities.

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    NNSW is the second largest Federation in Australia.
    But we are 2nd largest Fed when you want to say we should be doing better?

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    1 Sydney (NSW) 4,627,345
    2 Melbourne (VIC) 4,137,432
    3 Brisbane (QLD) 2,074,222
    4 Perth (WA) 1,738,807
    5 Adelaide (SA) 1,212,982
    6 Gold Coast – Tweed (QLD/NSW) 600,475
    7 Newcastle (NSW) 552,776


    it's official - we are doomed. http://blog.id.com.au/2012/populatio...by-population/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung View Post
    So we are the 6th largest city when it suits you to make a point that we aren't very good, and there are 5 better cities.



    But we are 2nd largest Fed when you want to say we should be doing better?
    Both are facts

    Try disputing that the EJ program fully represents the best in NNSW then.

    It doesn't even reflect the best in Newy

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    We sem to be forgetting that the Matilda's squad is essentially 17yr old girls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dunster View Post
    1 Sydney (NSW) 4,627,345
    2 Melbourne (VIC) 4,137,432
    3 Brisbane (QLD) 2,074,222
    4 Perth (WA) 1,738,807
    5 Adelaide (SA) 1,212,982
    6 Gold Coast – Tweed (QLD/NSW) 600,475
    7 Newcastle (NSW) 552,776


    it's official - we are doomed. http://blog.id.com.au/2012/populatio...by-population/
    Newcastle only wants Lake Macquarie when you're counting population. Then dickheads like the Member want to hand LM to the Coasties during the derbies

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazFish35 View Post
    We sem to be forgetting that the Matilda's squad is essentially 17yr old girls.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazFish35 View Post
    Reserves v firsts with firsts working on defensive shape and playing out under a high press.
    Reggies always win.

    Move on.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    This isn't the best XI of 15 year olds in the country

    It is a collection of 15 year olds from the 6th largest city in the country

    It is not even the best XI the 6th largest metropolis can come up with when you consider the EJ are missing kids whose parents can't afford the costs are missing kids who would rather play out of the EJ program and it also includes kids who are their on reasons other than merit.

    It is also a program that has many failings and is struggling
    In spite of all this they whooped the arse of the best female players in the country

    That to me says a hell of a lot about the inferiority of the woman's game in this country
    spot on

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    I'm pretty much getting the impression that this thread is full of men trying to feel better about their own inadequacies by telling everyone how shit women are at football, and therefore everything.

    No one, even the women who play the game, thinks that the Matildas are at the same level in terms of football ability than the corresponding men's team. They aren't going to be as good as the men's team in a hurry either so if that's not your thing than fine, don't go watch them. I think there could be a large proportion of their crowds that are young girls who may not watch football in the same way that you do. That's the market they are trying to appease. Not angry yobs like all of you and me!

    As far as money is concerned, their pay should be based on how much income they can generate, same as the men's team. If they can make the FFA half as much income as the men's team than they deserve half as much pay, if they make 1/10th than they deserve 1/10th, Simple.

    And as for their quality of play, if they are worse than every U15s side in Aus but go and win the women's world cup than they have done their job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    This isn't the best XI of 15 year olds in the country

    It is a collection of 15 year olds from the 6th largest city in the country

    It is not even the best XI the 6th largest metropolis can come up with when you consider the EJ are missing kids whose parents can't afford the costs are missing kids who would rather play out of the EJ program and it also includes kids who are their on reasons other than merit.

    It is also a program that has many failings and is struggling
    In spite of all this they whooped the arse of the best female players in the country

    That to me says a hell of a lot about the inferiority of the woman's game in this country
    or how good the EJ program is.
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    I tend to agree with Gav.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
    I'm pretty much getting the impression that this thread is full of men trying to feel better about their own inadequacies by telling everyone how shit women are at football, and therefore everything.

    No one, even the women who play the game, thinks that the Matildas are at the same level in terms of football ability than the corresponding men's team. They aren't going to be as good as the men's team in a hurry either so if that's not your thing than fine, don't go watch them. I think there could be a large proportion of their crowds that are young girls who may not watch football in the same way that you do. That's the market they are trying to appease. Not angry yobs like all of you and me!

    As far as money is concerned, their pay should be based on how much income they can generate, same as the men's team. If they can make the FFA half as much income as the men's team than they deserve half as much pay, if they make 1/10th than they deserve 1/10th, Simple.

    And as for their quality of play, if they are worse than every U15s side in Aus but go and win the women's world cup than they have done their job.
    lol

    I just think its funny that one of the best women's teams in the world got spanked by a bunch of 15 and 16 year old boys who aren't even close to the best in their age group in this country.

    TBH I thought the Matildas would at least be competitive in such a game. Apparently not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM View Post
    I just think its funny that one of the best women's teams in the world got spanked by a bunch of 15 and 16 year old boys who aren't even close to the best in their age group in this country.
    By most accounts, it was a group of 15, 16 and 17-year-old girls playing 15 and 16-year-old boys. Why is it surprising to anyone that the boys won?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM View Post
    lol

    I just think its funny that one of the best women's teams in the world got spanked by a bunch of 15 and 16 year old boys who aren't even close to the best in their age group in this country.

    TBH I thought the Matildas would at least be competitive in such a game. Apparently not.
    You seem to have football confused with washing and ironing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couscous View Post
    By most accounts, it was a group of 15, 16 and 17-year-old girls playing 15 and 16-year-old boys. Why is it surprising to anyone that the boys won?
    lolwut?

    DeVanna Heyman et al?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couscous View Post
    By most accounts, it was a group of 15, 16 and 17-year-old girls playing 15 and 16-year-old boys. Why is it surprising to anyone that the boys won?
    GvE was surprised. Wouldn't he have known best?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM View Post
    GvE was surprised. Wouldn't he have known best?
    The small iota of credibility you may have had has now been lost by linking in that mastermind, haha. He was probably surprised he still has a paying job involving football.
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    Matildas Beaten 7-0 By Newcastle Jets Under-15 Boys Team
    They're still on track for Rio.
    26/05/2016 11:02 AM AEST | Updated May 27, 2016 10:49
    Anthony Sharwood

    The Matildas are strongly fancied to give Australia's its best ever shot at a medal in the sport of football at the Rio Olympics in August. Perhaps they should be grateful there will be no under-16s boys' teams in their pool.

    In a friendly match against the Newcastle Jets under-16 boys team on Wednesday, the Matildas were humbled 7-0. That's right, the team ranked fifth in FIFA's women's rankings were roughed up by a bunch of lads barely old enough to shave.

    Here's a fairly common reaction.

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    it is probably not good that the Matildas were beaten 7-0 last night by Newcastle Jets' under-15s
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    No, it's not good at all. But there were, at least, some excuses.

    Gary van Egmond is assistant Matildas coach and academy director of the Newcastle Jets. "To be honest we didn't expect that," he told The Huffington Post Australia.

    "But the Jets boys were very good. All credit to them. They moved the ball around very well and were excellent on the night."

    Van Egmond explained that the Matildas are often forced to play boys' teams because there is not enough quality female opposition in our part of the world. This match was a warm-up for two friendlies against New Zealand's national women's team, the Football Ferns.

    Gary Van Egmond reckons it's time we cut the Matildas some slack.
    The last time the Matildas played a team of 15- and 16-year-old boys, they drew 2-2. On Wednesday night, van Egmond said the team was short of match practice.

    "I think there were a couple of contributing factors to the loss. At this stage in their preparation, obviously the Matildas are not in a position to play regular games so I'd suggest all and sundry were a little bit rusty.

    "We could have had an easier game, but we definitely want to keep testing the girls."

    Van Egmond also had strong words for those who would question the strength of women's football on the basis of this result.

    "It all relative," he said. "It's no different from [the sort of result you'd expect] from a female tennis player or a female swimmer against a 15- or 16-year-old boy who's maturing and starting to develop physically."

    "They have to be looked upon as two separate entities."

    The Matildas were missing several established internationals on Wednesday night, including star striker Kyah Simon. They also rotated players more than usual, which contributed to a lack of cohesion.

    The Matildas play New Zealand in Ballarat on June 4 and in Melbourne on June 7. The second match is part of a double-header before the Socceroos take on Greece in a friendly.
    There is some more context on GVE's input.
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    EXCLUSIVE: Alen Stajcic hits back at critics of the Matildas loss to boys

    Batten down the hatches ladies and gentleman, a storm is coming! If they can’t even beat a u15s boys team then what chance in hell do we have in Rio come August?
    By Lucy Zelic
    Source: Zela 26 MAY 2016 - 5:00 PM UPDATED 26 MAY 2016 - 5:02 PM

    Last night, the Matildas, ranked 5th in the world took on an u15s Newcastle Jets boys team at Valentine Park in an open training match and suffered a 7-0 loss.

    Judging by the conjecture doing the rounds from either the journalists who didn’t even attend the match or self-proclaimed social media experts, we’ve got a bunch of amateur Annies on our hands, who would be better off playing park football against retired geriatrics.

    Spare me the self-righteous argument of ‘just goes to show you that women will never be better than men at any age’ because that doesn’t have a place in this discussion and it never will.

    What also shouldn’t be given much thought is the scoreline or the fact that their opposition were young men because neither were given any consideration by the Matildas coaching staff as they went into the match last night.

    Far from it.

    Speaking to head coach Alen Stajcic in the wake of the match, he was bemused that this was even a story because from a football perspective, none of what happened last night was ‘mental’ or ‘not good.’

    "In all these experiences you get to learn about the team and you get to learn about things that you can work on and improve and that was certainly the case last night. There were many, many good elements to last night’s game, which certainly showed players who can step up to that level.

    "For me the most phenomenal part was Ellie Carpenter who’s a 16 year old girl and played in midfield in the second half against boys her own age, 16 year old boys who are at the peak of their game playing for the Jets and she could compete which was phenomenal.

    "To see someone like Caitlin Foord cause all sorts of trouble against boys who are much taller than her, much quicker than her, more powerful but still she caused them problems. It just highlights good things and also exposes areas where you can improve as well."

    As for the criticism they have copped for playing against a boys side?

    "We’ve played probably 40 matches against boys over the last 18 months and the objectives are always the same, to test out our players to find out their strengths and weaknesses to see where our team structure is good and where it’s not good.

    "At the end of the day, four of the seven goals scored last night were scored off of crosses. If someone is half a foot or a foot taller than you, that’s an anatomical and a biomechanical thing and you can’t do anything about that.

    "I go away from the game not worrying about that aspect. As long as the positioning was good. If the positioning was poor, that’s something you can control but being out jumped by someone who’s one foot taller than you and more powerful, that’s not really going to happen in a women’s game."

    Aside from testing out structures and getting visibility of players in a competitive environment, Stajcic was clear about the way they wanted the game to be played and liaised with the opposition coaches beforehand.

    "We do that all the time. We just ask them to replicate the opposition that we’re going to play against and that’s what we usually do. They played in the same formation that New Zealand will play against us, that we anticipate, so that really helps us prepare and develop for that match."

    It’s almost boring to read isn’t it?

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    Tell you what though, people's reactions to that Matildas scratch match are great for ascertaining how much they know about football.
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    That there was nothing sinister or shocking about last night’s 7-0 loss doesn’t make for a great headline or talking point to blow out of proportion on social media.

    'Matildas routinely prepare for match against New Zealand in an open training session’, doesn’t quite have the same ring to it as ‘Matildas thrashed 7-0 by Newcastle Jets under 15s boys’ does it?

    Perhaps more concerning was that none of the attention was directed to the incredible turnout on the night which saw the attending Matildas players mobbed by young girls all eager to meet them.

    Prior to the match kicking off, the players were invited to take part in clinics arranged by Football NSW which saw the squad engage with their biggest fans and the future of Australian football as they played mini-games.

    I suppose 'Matildas mobbed by young and old at meet and greet’ doesn’t make for a great headline either, does it?

    Well you know what, it bloody-well should.

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    For those curious, last night was a very obvious training run. So much so that LDV was playing in a jumper.
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    There's some more info
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