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    Have heard a few names go around the traps GO AWAY, maybe your son will return to the local club from memory he is a junior stag?


    Who is the TD, if from what I heard is correct, seems the club is going forward in leaps and bounds with a former jets player coming back from injury for his first season

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    http://www.theherald.com.au/story/40...pl-push/?cs=12

    There's the latest on applications for next season. All eleven New-FM clubs and New Lambton have applied. Doubts about some clubs and tbh, I've got a copy of the requirements and can say that NNSW simply have to allow time for clubs to adapt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewyTy View Post
    http://www.theherald.com.au/story/40...pl-push/?cs=12

    There's the latest on applications for next season. All eleven New-FM clubs and New Lambton have applied. Doubts about some clubs and tbh, I've got a copy of the requirements and can say that NNSW simply have to allow time for clubs to adapt.
    How many current newfm teams don't meet the requirement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cymonster View Post
    How many current newfm teams don't meet the requirement?
    Think depends on NNSW mood, Awaba, Southy and Lakes have all been there before, considering Awaba made the cut last time this sort of thing went on ( criteria ) its hard to see why NNSW would reject them this time when I don't think much has changed in the criteria from 2008 ?.
    Stags dark horses to go up in my books, valo and Jets ( Sydney ) out Toronto Awaba, Southy, Lakes and Wallsend in. 12 team comp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cymonster View Post
    How many current newfm teams don't meet the requirement?
    Based on the Facility criteria Ty posted my ranking of NewFM grounds based on criteria (in order) would be:

    MEET OR PREDOMINANTLY MEET CRITERIA:
    1. Lakes
    2. Toronto
    3. Cessnock

    PARTIALLY MEET CRITERIA:
    4. Wallsend
    5. Cooks Hill
    6. West Wallsend
    7. South Cardiff
    8. Singleton
    9. Belswans

    DONT MEET CRITERIA:
    10. Thornton
    11. Kahibah
    12. New Lambton (for completeness)

    So assuming other elements of application are met we could see 3 NewFM teams with a NPL license (Lakes, Toronto and Cessnock) or up to 9 NewFM teams if they allow flexibility with the grounds criteria.
    Add in the current 10 NPL clubs and you get 13 teams minimum or 19 teams maximum.
    Conceivable that Valentine could lose their license based on grounds meaning that we could have one NPL comp with 12 teams and no promotion/relegation.
    Alternatively we could have up to 19 NPL teams with two comps with promotion and relegation.

    Interesting to see how NNSWF make the decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSam View Post
    Have heard a few names go around the traps GO AWAY, maybe your son will return to the local club from memory he is a junior stag?


    Who is the TD, if from what I heard is correct, seems the club is going forward in leaps and bounds with a former jets player coming back from injury for his first season
    We will see mate, very settled at azzurri and well respected at Azzurri, so cant see him leaving short term, especially wont go back to Newfm at 18. I know lots of Toronto boys around the 18-22 bracket that would, IF, they got in to NPL but will have to wait and see. at the moment, loving his time at Lisle Carr

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    Quote Originally Posted by GO AWAY View Post
    We will see mate, very settled at azzurri and well respected at Azzurri, so cant see him leaving short term, especially wont go back to Newfm at 18. I know lots of Toronto boys around the 18-22 bracket that would, IF, they got in to NPL but will have to wait and see. at the moment, loving his time at Lisle Carr

    local players will always return especially if there is the right people are in place


    Who is the TD? who would you like to coach out there, any names floating around, there's a few Toronto locals coaching at others clubs (two at a current NEW FM club) and one not coaching at present

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    Piggott to Toronto. If they are promoted

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    Would think that Piggots protege would be more in line with the current set up at Toronto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongSufferingFan View Post
    Based on the Facility criteria Ty posted my ranking of NewFM grounds based on criteria (in order) would be:

    MEET OR PREDOMINANTLY MEET CRITERIA:
    1. Lakes
    2. Toronto
    3. Cessnock

    PARTIALLY MEET CRITERIA:
    4. Wallsend
    5. Cooks Hill
    6. West Wallsend
    7. South Cardiff
    8. Singleton
    9. Belswans

    DONT MEET CRITERIA:
    10. Thornton
    11. Kahibah
    12. New Lambton (for completeness)

    So assuming other elements of application are met we could see 3 NewFM teams with a NPL license (Lakes, Toronto and Cessnock) or up to 9 NewFM teams if they allow flexibility with the grounds criteria.
    Add in the current 10 NPL clubs and you get 13 teams minimum or 19 teams maximum.
    Conceivable that Valentine could lose their license based on grounds meaning that we could have one NPL comp with 12 teams and no promotion/relegation.
    Alternatively we could have up to 19 NPL teams with two comps with promotion and relegation.

    Interesting to see how NNSWF make the decision.
    How do you know if the three teams (no 10, 11 and 12) do not meet the criteria. Have you seen their applications?
    If you are referring simply to grounds (that they currently play at) all they have to do is eg Kahibah having an agreement with CCB/council and play out of Highfields. That solves the ground issue.
    If the truth were known most clubs would not meet 100% of the criteria excluding the grounds they play at.

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    Would think that Piggots protege would be more in line with the current set up at Toronto.

    Get Piggot and the protégé would probably either play or coach under him as well, use to score goals for fun when he played


    some young promising talents in the current line up who just need a decent coach to steer the ship

    How the current coach has kept the role is very surprising

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSam View Post
    Get Piggot and the protégé would probably either play or coach under him as well, use to score goals for fun when he played


    some young promising talents in the current line up who just need a decent coach to steer the ship

    How the current coach has kept the role is very surprising
    The only reason the current coach has stayed is because they didn't have options to replace him. At least that's what I'm thinking. I remember hearing Stags apparently talking to Steve Thomson (Cessnock coach) early in the piece and of course there's always the possibility of trying to get an opposition coach or if possible even someone like Rufo could work as coach/TD. Stags IMO are the most exciting club ahead of next season. Really interested to see how it's going to turn out.

    As for the criteria posts above. Thornton and Kahibah have a distinct lack of undercover seating. Kahibah's temp fence might not be allowed and New Lambton is obviously nowhere near what's needed as a ground (either of their grounds). The middle clubs (partially meet criteria) are all lacking a player race (so too Toronto), Southy do have one but field dimensions there are questionable. Says on the requirements that perimeter fence needs to be MINIMUM 3m from pitch. I can think of a some NPL grounds where that's not the case so who knows.

    If I was going to have a stab at predicting NPL 1 I'd say Valo to drop out obviously due to ground and Lakes to go up. No other movement. Jets going to Sydney would be good but I doubt it'll happen. As for NPL 2, I'm hoping to see every club get a chance but it's doubtful. At the very least, there has to be two comps. It'd be shambles to see clubs nowhere near NPL1 quality get toweled up by Magic and Edgy across all grades. Truth has to be said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewyTy View Post
    The only reason the current coach has stayed is because they didn't have options to replace him. At least that's what I'm thinking. I remember hearing Stags apparently talking to Steve Thomson (Cessnock coach) early in the piece and of course there's always the possibility of trying to get an opposition coach or if possible even someone like Rufo could work as coach/TD. Stags IMO are the most exciting club ahead of next season. Really interested to see how it's going to turn out.

    As for the criteria posts above. Thornton and Kahibah have a distinct lack of undercover seating. Kahibah's temp fence might not be allowed and New Lambton is obviously nowhere near what's needed as a ground (either of their grounds). The middle clubs (partially meet criteria) are all lacking a player race (so too Toronto), Southy do have one but field dimensions there are questionable. Says on the requirements that perimeter fence needs to be MINIMUM 3m from pitch. I can think of a some NPL grounds where that's not the case so who knows.

    If I was going to have a stab at predicting NPL 1 I'd say Valo to drop out obviously due to ground and Lakes to go up. No other movement. Jets going to Sydney would be good but I doubt it'll happen. As for NPL 2, I'm hoping to see every club get a chance but it's doubtful. At the very least, there has to be two comps. It'd be shambles to see clubs nowhere near NPL1 quality get toweled up by Magic and Edgy across all grades. Truth has to be said.
    I am not disputing what you say. My point was the example of Kahibah, their ground may not meet the criteria but all they have to do is play at CCB'S ground. New Lambton just have to move to Lambton's ground etc A more pressing issue is whether the other clubs would want to share their ground with another club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by De-Champ View Post
    I am not disputing what you say. My point was the example of Kahibah, their ground may not meet the criteria but all they have to do is play at CCB'S ground. New Lambton just have to move to Lambton's ground etc A more pressing issue is whether the other clubs would want to share their ground with another club.
    I get that, but that's the thing. I doubt CCB will have Kahibah at their ground. There's a lot behind the scenes to make that sort of change happen. I'm hoping Kahibah can find their way into the comp as they've got a solid set of teams and a lot of juniors and it'd be a shame to see that wasted or broken up due to missing out. I'm sure they and all the clubs will have Plan B's in case it doesn't work out.

    Same with New Lambton. Jaffas would obviously want some sort of compensation. With NPL + Youth grades it could work as an alternating week by week thing (Lambton at home one week, New Lambton the next). We'll have to see how it all pans out.

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    What are Kahibah, New Lambton and Thornton missing? A fence can be done in the off season (prob not reqd for Thornton). A players race can be done in a week, covered seating can be done in the off season. What cant be done in an off season is the junior requirement which many of the clubs dont have. If you were to put clubs into the NPL Kahibah, New Lambton, Valentine and Cooks Hill (maybe Wallsend nut I believe they have split from the juniors recently) need to be there they are big junior clubs and these clubs are sustainable just by player numbers alone. NPL seems now to be based on the richest clubs succeeding which is not sustainable or at best are very volatile year to year. Clubs that support and participate in Grassroots football should be the 1st clubs considered. They have a constant income stream a huge number to call for volunteers and hopefully a clear pathway for their juniors, whether it be in 'elite' football or community football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewyTy View Post
    The only reason the current coach has stayed is because they didn't have options to replace him. At least that's what I'm thinking. I remember hearing Stags apparently talking to Steve Thomson (Cessnock coach) early in the piece and of course there's always the possibility of trying to get an opposition coach or if possible even someone like Rufo could work as coach/TD. Stags IMO are the most exciting club ahead of next season. Really interested to see how it's going to turn out.

    As for the criteria posts above. Thornton and Kahibah have a distinct lack of undercover seating. Kahibah's temp fence might not be allowed and New Lambton is obviously nowhere near what's needed as a ground (either of their grounds). The middle clubs (partially meet criteria) are all lacking a player race (so too Toronto), Southy do have one but field dimensions there are questionable. Says on the requirements that perimeter fence needs to be MINIMUM 3m from pitch. I can think of a some NPL grounds where that's not the case so who knows.

    If I was going to have a stab at predicting NPL 1 I'd say Valo to drop out obviously due to ground and Lakes to go up. No other movement. Jets going to Sydney would be good but I doubt it'll happen. As for NPL 2, I'm hoping to see every club get a chance but it's doubtful. At the very least, there has to be two comps. It'd be shambles to see clubs nowhere near NPL1 quality get toweled up by Magic and Edgy across all grades. Truth has to be said.


    The guy wasn't turning up to training to all reports, look at the results of the 22s n 19s, and they are pushing for promotion?


    Surely plenty of work to be done.


    How are Cooks Hill going along Ty? reckon they are a chance to go up, have a good junior base etc?

    Current coach and his assistant staying around? see both of them regularly watching other games, putting in the hard yards- Great to see Cooks Hill give two young guys a chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSam View Post
    The guy wasn't turning up to training to all reports, look at the results of the 22s n 19s, and they are pushing for promotion?


    Surely plenty of work to be done.


    How are Cooks Hill going along Ty? reckon they are a chance to go up, have a good junior base etc?

    Current coach and his assistant staying around? see both of them regularly watching other games, putting in the hard yards- Great to see Cooks Hill give two young guys a chance
    Cookers won't go up. Not enough in place for it to happen at the ground, not to mention we'd need a lot more volunteers to make it all run smoothly. It'll eventually happen but it's definitely not happening next year. Not sure if the coaching staff are staying on; haven't really spoken too much about next year. Whatever happens I think it'll be a strong year filled mostly by youth in 1st grade. That's what it seems to be building towards anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSam View Post
    Get Piggot and the protégé would probably either play or coach under him as well, use to score goals for fun when he played


    some young promising talents in the current line up who just need a decent coach to steer the ship

    How the current coach has kept the role is very surprising
    Who is the protege?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewyTy View Post
    Cookers won't go up. Not enough in place for it to happen at the ground, not to mention we'd need a lot more volunteers to make it all run smoothly. It'll eventually happen but it's definitely not happening next year. Not sure if the coaching staff are staying on; haven't really spoken too much about next year. Whatever happens I think it'll be a strong year filled mostly by youth in 1st grade. That's what it seems to be building towards anyway.
    people around the club seem happy that the kids are getting a go? you've been quiet on them lately thats all


    Still predicting Kahibah to win the comp, classy players in there squad... few chiefs and the rest are Indians so to say making them very hard to beat


    No formal commitments with any squads

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    Who is the protege?
    Best to check with the postman on who is referring to or GO AWAY, they are the locals out that way

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