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    Quote Originally Posted by Beppe View Post
    I couldn't see any new teams, not currently formed, getting 16 decent first grade quality players (45 squad players for the ZPL) and getting approved straight into ZPL. I would guess Suburbs will stay up along with a ZL1 side.
    Jesmond are confirmed as being promoted, as they should be.

    So there is only one spot up for grabs and that is New Lambtons place.

    I don't know what other clubs are putting in an EOI, but we will know in a few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammydog View Post
    Jesmond are confirmed as being promoted, as they should be.

    So there is only one spot up for grabs and that is New Lambtons place.

    I don't know what other clubs are putting in an EOI, but we will know in a few weeks.
    yeah my bad, cant count hahaha

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    So who else got promoted in other grades and any chance of more than one side going up

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    Cooks Hill got 2nd, 3rd and first across the grades in ZL1 plus beat Swansea in preseason all three grades from memory plus beat the Cooks Hill NewFM team in a trail and thrashed the Newfm 23s near the end of the season (who were second in their comp) so I'd suspect they would be competitive although they did struggle with injuries, work family commitments over the year being an older squad (all the youngies stayed in NEWFM). Raymond Terrace also looked good in first grade during the finals series. If they could replicate that all year and beef up their lower grades they could give the ZPL a scare... how competitive were Garden Suburb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchcoach View Post
    Cooks Hill got 2nd, 3rd and first across the grades in ZL1 plus beat Swansea in preseason all three grades from memory plus beat the Cooks Hill NewFM team in a trail and thrashed the Newfm 23s near the end of the season (who were second in their comp) so I'd suspect they would be competitive although they did struggle with injuries, work family commitments over the year being an older squad (all the youngies stayed in NEWFM). Raymond Terrace also looked good in first grade during the finals series. If they could replicate that all year and beef up their lower grades they could give the ZPL a scare... how competitive were Garden Suburb?
    The table doesn't tell the story for Garden Suburb. Scorelines in their matches suggested they were competitive, and were in the lower grades too. I personally think it would be harsh for them to lose the 'extra spot'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchcoach View Post
    how competitive were Garden Suburb?
    My opinion is biased (I'm not a player in the ZPL though), but I don't think the table tells the story of the quality of the squad we had or the way they played. It certainly did feel like watching the train wreck that the table would suggest.

    Fact is over the season we only got three points, but I think we were a far better team than that. Maybe some of the other teams can confirm or deny that.
    Last edited by sammydog; 26-09-2016 at 09:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammydog View Post
    My opinion is biased (I'm not a player in the ZPL though), but I don't think the table tells the story of the quality of the squad we had or the way they played.

    Fact is over the season we only got three point, but I think we were a far better team than that. Maybe some of the other teams can confirm or deny that.
    I agree

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    well where do I go with that open door sammydog?

    The team up the hill, were better than there results suggested, but luck and injuries(no shows) also played its part.

    Tiggers were in a similar place a few years back, my vote would be to stay, and trust me I'm not biased towards them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchcoach View Post
    Cooks Hill got 2nd, 3rd and first across the grades in ZL1 plus beat Swansea in preseason all three grades from memory plus beat the Cooks Hill NewFM team in a trail and thrashed the Newfm 23s near the end of the season (who were second in their comp) so I'd suspect they would be competitive although they did struggle with injuries, work family commitments over the year being an older squad (all the youngies stayed in NEWFM). Raymond Terrace also looked good in first grade during the finals series. If they could replicate that all year and beef up their lower grades they could give the ZPL a scare... how competitive were Garden Suburb?
    Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that one club could not have team in leagues without a minimum of one league between them (ie: Cookers in NEW FM and Cookers in ZL1).

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    Quote Originally Posted by EH9 View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that one club could not have team in leagues without a minimum of one league between them (ie: Cookers in NEW FM and Cookers in ZL1).
    This is what I always thought, but it was pointed out to me that there is no straight promotion/relegation between ZPL and New-FM. So it 'could' happen, but I haven't seen it before.

    Given they're trying to work towards promotion/relegation between New-FM/NPL I would be expecting some criteria based promotion/relegation in New-FM in the coming years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EH9 View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that one club could not have team in leagues without a minimum of one league between them (ie: Cookers in NEW FM and Cookers in ZL1).
    Sounds a bit like an arbitrary 'wives tale' to me... what would be the point of having a grade gap? IF the team is good enough to reach the higher grade then so be it. I can see some justification in not having two teams in same grade especially because the teams are structured differently (age grouping wise) But up to zone level surely it should be if you are good enough you are young enough....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchcoach View Post
    Sounds a bit like an arbitrary 'wives tale' to me... what would be the point of having a grade gap?
    To stop the situation where a team earns promotion but can't actually go up as there will be two teams from the same club in the one comp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundball Enthusiast View Post
    To stop the situation where a team earns promotion but can't actually go up as there will be two teams from the same club in the one comp.
    If Cook's Hill had finished first and that rule was in place than that's would already be happening, just with a division gap in the middle. So i think Cooks Hill would be fine to play in ZPL no matter if promotion/relegation is or isn't in place.

    As for the current dilemma of who will take the last spot in ZPL from past experience, unless the team struggled badly to field teams then, the team who was already in the higher division keeps their status so Suburb(s) will most likely be staying up.
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    I may have missed it somewhere, but does anyone know when the actual decision from Newcastle Football is due?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Spy View Post
    I may have missed it somewhere, but does anyone know when the actual decision from Newcastle Football is due?
    No date set for the decision, only for EOI, which is 14th Oct, as far as I'm aware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Spy View Post
    I may have missed it somewhere, but does anyone know when the actual decision from Newcastle Football is due?
    Expressions of interest close on the 14th of October.
    I think the Zone League meeting is scheduled on the 26th of October, I would expect a decision to be made by then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sammydog View Post
    My opinion is biased (I'm not a player in the ZPL though), but I don't think the table tells the story of the quality of the squad we had or the way they played. It certainly did feel like watching the train wreck that the table would suggest.

    Fact is over the season we only got three points, but I think we were a far better team than that. Maybe some of the other teams can confirm or deny that.
    I don't think the points total reflects your season exactly. Albeit an extremely tough league this year with every week a proper battle. There wasn't an easy game all year and I think GS just didn't have that little bit extra to get over the top of teams. They certainly weren't shit kickers. Would be fair to have them stay up.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but in the year they made the comps ten teams weren't all teams that came last still made to take relegation, zpl had morriset come last and they were relegated, barnsley came up and the suburbs and sun's took the extra two spots, I believe that year the federation said that all team must take relegation and weren't eligible to stay up.

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    In the situation maybe a play off would be the fairest thing... maybe Cooks Hill V Raymond Terrace home and away winner to play Garden Suburb home and away... that would sort it out with out any questions of bias etc.... never happen though... sadly. It would be a bit like the 3rd sport from the championship to premier league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldogs 1962 View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but in the year they made the comps ten teams weren't all teams that came last still made to take relegation, zpl had morriset come last and they were relegated, barnsley came up and the suburbs and sun's took the extra two spots, I believe that year the federation said that all team must take relegation and weren't eligible to stay up.
    I'll correct you cause you are wrong.
    2014
    Cardiff came last in ZPL

    Beresfield won ZL1 38 points
    Garden Suburb came 2nd 37 points
    Newcastle Suns came 3rd 24 points

    2015
    Wallsend, Kahibah and Cooks Hill were promoted to New FM.
    Cardiff stayed up, Beresfield, Garden Suburb and Newcastle Suns were promoted to ZPL.

    Edit:
    Unfortunately for us at Garden Suburb the turn over of players from 1st grade 2014-2015 was high as half of our first grade was poached from NPL and NewFM clubs.
    We at Garden Suburb are not a club that will try to get in the way of any player playing at a highet level and we'll encourage our mates to make the set up.
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