GVE Gooooooooone

[MFKS]

I wouldn't have thought Heskey would have been a GVE idea. I was under the impression that would have been more a HSG thing.

All I have noticed this season is how we have once again ****ed our marquee up. We don't really need a Marquee up front in Heskey. We need a ****ing magician man in midfield to spray the ball about everywhere and create for us cause the likes of Rubez Jobe Kanta etc ain't the men to do it. Too many painters and no artist

100% his squad?? Not yet there are still some hacks who are contracted for him to rid us of yet ie Jesic Galloway Kanta etc

[militiamon]

We are sitting in 3rd place after 7 games. I would have taken that at the start of the season.

[Porett]

I wouldn't have thought Heskey would have been a GVE idea. I was under the impression that would have been more a HSG thing.

All I have noticed this season is how we have once again ****ed our marquee up. We don't really need a Marquee up front in Heskey. We need a ****ing magician man in midfield to spray the ball about everywhere and create for us cause the likes of Rubez Jobe Kanta etc ain't the men to do it. Too many painters and no artist

100% his squad?? Not yet there are still some hacks who are contracted for him to rid us of yet ie Jesic Galloway Kanta etc

Not meaning to split hairs but i think kanta was his signing.

[parksey]

i'm surprised vj hasn't ridden into this thread on his high horse (worth a flutter at $12) yet

[militiamon]

What is there to ride in here about? We're 3rd.

Or did you just want to say that for the horse racing joke?

[boz-monaut]

clearly, one loss = proof that GvE rapes disabled children

[pv4]

mfks - heskey is EXACTLY what we needed. he's won us, what, 3 or 4 games this season?

we've been needing a number 9 since joel left, we've not had the firepower that can finish for many years.

while adding the artist would be amazing, i feel that hsg/gve got heskey exactly right.

it's gve's squad. he signed bernardo completely on his own & doesn't even want to use him. any and every excuse for our bad season won't change the fact that you're in complete control, gary.

while i'm happy with our position, i really fail to see our high-tempo, high-pressing game that brisbane/fc tokyo/etc do so well & gve claims is 12-18+months in the making. we're scrapping our games.

[sh10]

i'm surprised vj hasn't ridden into this thread on his high horse (worth a flutter at $12) yet

teehee

[sh10]

Well said mate.
I used to have a soft spot for Leeds when Kewell and Viduka were there at the peak of their careers but as I've never been to England or do not have any English ancestry, there is just no great attachment for me to any teams in England. To say you "support" a team which is based 1000's of Kms away is like you said "plastic". You are a "follower", you follow the team on TV or the internet but you do not "support" it in the traditional sense.

So what is a "supporter in the traditional sense" then? Only the 40,000 who can actually go to home games? Or someone who gets to 2 or 3 away games a year? Or someone who gets to pre-season games that are nearby instead of the other side of the world? Or a member?

Please, I think we'd all love to know what the definition is so we can work out just how plastic we are.

[belchardo]

good point.

living 500km away in canberra, attending games when i can (2 this year thus far), being a member (non-ticketed as i can't get to that many games, and don't know what games i can attend when applying for the membership), attending away games when i can, am i plastic, a supporter, or a follower?

[The Dunster]

Ritter and Goodwin would have made things very difficult for Ifill had they played on Sunday. Ritter would have tracked him defensively and Goodwin would have forced him to sit deeper than he did.

It's one game and the result didn't really suprise anyone that's been following the team for any reasonable period of time.

Ritter and Goodwin to come back, Brown with a bit more game time and we will be a completely different team.

We are in a great position and our best football is yet to come. GVE has it all under control.

[MFKS]

mfks - heskey is EXACTLY what we needed. he's won us, what, 3 or 4 games this season?

we've been needing a number 9 since joel left, we've not had the firepower that can finish for many years.

while adding the artist would be amazing, i feel that hsg/gve got heskey exactly right.

it's gve's squad. he signed bernardo completely on his own & doesn't even want to use him. any and every excuse for our bad season won't change the fact that you're in complete control, gary.

while i'm happy with our position, i really fail to see our high-tempo, high-pressing game that brisbane/fc tokyo/etc do so well & gve claims is 12-18+months in the making. we're scrapping our games.

I am not the type of bloke convinced by a player due to his goals scored column. Heskeys signing is a ****ing disastrous idea for GVE's high intensity possession based game he is trying to employ. As a result those who watched us in pre season would agree we have gone the other way since Heskeys arrival with far too much longer ball and direct ball.

Although Heskey banging in the goals is a good thing it only appears as such due to the complete lack of anything resembling quality since Griffo left us. Not wishing to split hairs but all of Heskeys goals have come from under 10 yards out and have been pokes home. None of the finishes have been spectacular of note and most of it is down to Heskeys experience playing in the EPL rather than any level of talent on his part,. Heskey is scoring these and credit where it is due as he is getting on them I just feel the 5 tap ins he has scored ain't worth the consequences as to what his presecence here has done to our game.

I feel though the artist is and was more necessary. The artist would also allow us to maintain possession better. A bit more ball may keep a few more balls ending up in our net as our defence struggles anyway. The artist would also play the ball forward more creating possible opportunitiers to exploit we don't see at present as the likes of Zads and Jobe who kill opportunity after opportunity with their sideways and backwards first passing philosophies.

The artist would allow us a more mobile quicker option up front then Heskey. This would benefit us in a big way as at present we aren't trying to get in behind opponents except in the corner flag area to whip in crosses to Heskey. A quick bloke such as Taggz up front will keep opposition defences concerned with how far they push up so as not to leave too much space in behind for a bloke playing on the last line trying to get in behind for a 1-1 with keeper. This keeps them deeper and not as condensed and will allow our mids a bit more space on the ball.

If you think this playing in behind the defence isn't a good strategy watch our opponents as that is what they do to us to show up our defensive shortcomings to great effect.

[parksey]

What is there to ride in here about? We're 3rd.

Or did you just want to say that for the horse racing joke?

well that was pretty much the main reason, but I was expecting to see a post from vj in here after such a terrible performance.

[vikingjet]

i'm surprised vj hasn't ridden into this thread on his high horse (worth a flutter at $12) yet

GVE out!

There you go Parkesy. If only your Mummy had lent you $10 to get on, you could have bought $120.00 worth of new Stars Wars lego.

BTW, I'm not riding a horse...it just looks like it.

[parksey]

here's the guy

[Raw Boned Youngster]

I am not the type of bloke convinced by a player due to his goals scored column. Heskeys signing is a ****ing disastrous idea for GVE's high intensity possession based game he is trying to employ. As a result those who watched us in pre season would agree we have gone the other way since Heskeys arrival with far too much longer ball and direct ball.

Although Heskey banging in the goals is a good thing it only appears as such due to the complete lack of anything resembling quality since Griffo left us. Not wishing to split hairs but all of Heskeys goals have come from under 10 yards out and have been pokes home. None of the finishes have been spectacular of note and most of it is down to Heskeys experience playing in the EPL rather than any level of talent on his part,. Heskey is scoring these and credit where it is due as he is getting on them I just feel the 5 tap ins he has scored ain't worth the consequences as to what his presecence here has done to our game.

I feel though the artist is and was more necessary. The artist would also allow us to maintain possession better. A bit more ball may keep a few more balls ending up in our net as our defence struggles anyway. The artist would also play the ball forward more creating possible opportunitiers to exploit we don't see at present as the likes of Zads and Jobe who kill opportunity after opportunity with their sideways and backwards first passing philosophies.

The artist would allow us a more mobile quicker option up front then Heskey. This would benefit us in a big way as at present we aren't trying to get in behind opponents except in the corner flag area to whip in crosses to Heskey. A quick bloke such as Taggz up front will keep opposition defences concerned with how far they push up so as not to leave too much space in behind for a bloke playing on the last line trying to get in behind for a 1-1 with keeper. This keeps them deeper and not as condensed and will allow our mids a bit more space on the ball.

If you think this playing in behind the defence isn't a good strategy watch our opponents as that is what they do to us to show up our defensive shortcomings to great effect.

Banging in goals from 10 yards is a tremendous asset and the hallmark of a quality striker.
I digress.

Regarding the artist, I do agree that that would be very handy.
The problem is that, as much as he denies it and tries to blame others, Eggy doesn't appear to be able to identify one. His, and the club's, track record is appalling in this area. The other problem is that Gaz's squads are so poorly prepared in terms of strategy and structure, that the effectiveness of said 'artist' would be severely compromised.
Many things could happen with the squad if there was a cohesive, understood and well-rehearsed approach to playing with and without the ball.
In a nutshell, it is basically ad hoc shit.
Gaz once again proves that if he has a message, he has trouble getting it through to his foot soldiers.

[Football is us]

For some reason I lost my username in here ... maybe I didn't post enough lol But I've re registered to have my two bobs worth.

Van God has a real temperament problem. Wile many managers/coaches get frustrated, kick the ground etc, our wonderful Van God attacks chairs, ballboys and anything else in sight when things aren't going well.

The fact that we are third is great, but if you were a Western Sydney supporter, you'd be have to be wondering how they didn't at least get a share of the pointsagainst us in the previous round. One of the main reasons they didn't didn't get points, was Birghiti .... he saved us many times at Parammatta.

We also have a lot of goals scored against us. Possession is wonderful, and a good thing, but the laws of the game don't mention that as a criteria for winning .... they talk of the team scoring the greater amount of goals as the criteria for winning a match. The possesion has (or even the lack of it) has to be turned into scoring more goals than your opponent. So you have to score more goals than they do.

The crowd love goals too, its why they come to the football. They not that concerned if we have goals scored against us, as long as we score more than the opponents. They're even reasonably happy if you have shots at goals that go pretty close ... its part of the excitement of football. Playing primarily for possession does not necessarily win games and can be utterly boring. Boring is not entertainment and thus does not attract crowds.

His statements after Sundays game about some players with 15 to 16 months of exposure to his 'system' is typical of how He is never wrong.

You don't see Sir Alex Ferguson attacking his players verbally in the media (the media might report that he has attacked or berated a player in the dressing room. ie Beckham), but managers/coaches of Fergies ilk don't criticise their players publicly. Unfortunately our Van God finds it easier to blame his players than to simply tell the press 'we have to work on our defence/attack etc.

A few years ago, he berated Zura publicly which made back page headlines in the Herald ... "something like 'Zura not good enough for the A- League' ". A good coach doesn't berate players in front of anyone, his job is to inspire the players. A good coach might have occasion to criticise a player, but it shouldn't be done in front of other players or the press.

He also stated in the post match press conference, that the reason we didn't retain Jeremy Brockie last year was 'the salary cap' ie we couldn't afford him. If my memory serves me correctly, the reason stated last year for Brockie's departure (as with quite a few others) was that he 'didn't suit our style of play', I don't recall any mention of brockie pricing himself out of our squad.. Brockie seemed to play alright for Wellington last Sunday against 'our style of play'.

Sorry , I forgot that Van God who handpicked the large majority of current squad and was only looking for a striker to fill the last piece of the jigsaw, now says that 'some of them now don't get it'. Sorry God, but I don't buy that. Even if He still has players that were on contract, that He would rather have let go(because 'in 15 or 16 months they still don't get it'), its simply a matter of, not picking them, injuries permitting.

Heskey failed to score this week because he was heavily marked by Wellington. For once though, our enshrined coach brought on a very intelligent player who has the ability to feed Heskey, and feed from him, but as He so often does, He makes that change with less than 10 minutes to go and two goals behind. That player being Michael Bridges. Barely time enough time for a run on player to find his feet in such a situation.

Van God should be starting Bridges and Heskey together. They are both pretty fit, and even if not 90 minutes fit, if they put us in a 2 or 3 goal lead position, the younger players should be able to hold the fort. In any case, the match time mentoring of these two players will do wonders for the younger players.

Bridges and Heskey individually, have had more exposure to first class football than our coach is ever likely to have. They have played under managers of much greater ability and experience than our man, and more than likely have more football knowledge in their little finger than Van God has in his whole body.

VG has assembled a squad of highly talented, up and coming players and credit to him for that ... but he should be humble enough and wise enough to see that the experience of two top professionals is an element that will develop these young, talented players into young, talented, intelligent footballers.

[seldom]

That newcastle coach goes orrite aye

[Grimario]

45 minutes to restore my faith, dutchy.

[Thomas477]

45 minutes to restore my faith, dutchy.

Agreed, starting to lose my faith as well.

Players need to pull their finger out though.