2013 NBN State League Thread

[Zico]

at Cooks Hill we did put in massive efforts to get use of #2, only for the Council to classify it in a manner that only allows the highest State level competitions to be played there

doesn't stop rugby playing juniors there though

Cooks Hill United are committed to improving the facilities at our current ground in order to meet requirements for State League - we are keen on promotion and will do so when NNSW allows (and we're in a position to do so)

I hope you can make it through to the NEWFM Boz but in all honesty I can't see NNSW being very keen for you to promote to State League.

Chances are that Adamstown will be in with a massive chance to win promotion this season and I'd be very surprised if they would have Magic, Olympic, Jaffas, Rosebuds and Cookers all within a blacket distance of each other. Unfortunately for the lower grade clubs, this new restructure the Fed are considering has zones that will be required to be filled to ensure that they comp is truely a Northern NSW comp rather than a Newcastle City comp.

[boz-monaut]

the proposed re-structure is a bit of a concern for all clubs looking to go up - why spend all the time and effort to go up to New-FM if it's not going to be around in four years

Northern are pretty pleased with the way we run things (largest club in NNSW to be accredited etc) and would be keen on having us up there, as long as we're in a position to do so, which we currently aren't

[Premy]

Thats what I suspected boz you guys do a top job and seem like a very well run club. To me I think you deserve a spot in NewFM it's debatable but other than the surface you guys have better facilities then most already in NewFM. Anyway good luck this year I'm sure you guys will be we'll up there.

[EH9]

Questions need to be asked:
1. Why transfer the game to No. 2?
2. What is the tangible benefit from this transfer?
3. What is the advantage for the Fed to move this game?
4. What costs are involved with playing on No. 2?
5. Who will benefit from the costs of playing at No. 2?
6. Will No. 2 be available for future football use?
7. Will No. 2 be a regular venue for Olympic?
8. Will No. 2 have a sufficiently suitable surface for playing football during the season?
9. Who will be playing at Darling St while Olympic are at No. 2?

From my information, Olympic were only looking at moving the first game of their season to No2. They were allocated a round of the U15 competition on the same weekend as the opening round of NBN and they thought they would host all games on the one day and have a 'Festival of Football' whereby for one admission price you could see 7 or 8 games. Not a bad I thought as the NHRU were not starting their comp until the weekend after meaniung the field would be in good condition. But after seeing this the NHRU have apparantly brought forward their competition so it starts the same weekend meaning that the U15 and opening round of NBN will not be played Sat and Sunday at Darling Street (So I have heard).

[nbnjet]

From my information, Olympic were only looking at moving the first game of their season to No2. They were allocated a round of the U15 competition on the same weekend as the opening round of NBN and they thought they would host all games on the one day and have a 'Festival of Football' whereby for one admission price you could see 7 or 8 games. Not a bad I thought as the NHRU were not starting their comp until the weekend after meaniung the field would be in good condition. But after seeing this the NHRU have apparantly brought forward their competition so it starts the same weekend meaning that the U15 and opening round of NBN will not be played Sat and Sunday at Darling Street (So I have heard).

So why cant they have a "Festival of Football" at Darling Street? And seriously who will for one admission price, or even free entry, come and watch 7 or 8 games of football? Lets do the sums on worst case scenario, 7 games x 1.5hours equals 10.5 hours of football, so they start at 9am and finish at 7.30pm. Wow that is a mighty big day of football. Now lets go worst case scenario, 8 games x 2hours (1h 45mins for the game and 15mins warm up before hand) equals 16 hours of football. Start at 7am and finish at 11pm. WOW now that is a massive "Festival of Football". Who has the time, commitment, or even patience to watch so many games...

You see even the worst case scenario does not make sense. This festival of football does not make sense. A full days hire of No. 2 does not make sense. Im sorry but i just dont see it and i stand by my earlier comments i think there is more at play here than meets the eye. What does make sense is having a festival of football at Darling Street where there are two fields that could be utilised to cut the play time by a third at least leaving only the top three of four grades to play one the main field with no other games on the other.

I had also heard this was all about getting a foothold on No. 2. People, wake up and smell the roses. The NRU have been a part of the construction of the facility and it was all their lobbying that got the project started. It is a NRU project in NCC colours. Football looks like fools for trying to get a game on it. The NRU admin is located there. The NRU sponsor signs are permanently attached to the facility. The funding was attributed to the Council on the back of NRU submissions. Jodie Mackay made announcements together with and always inclusive of NRU. I have to say i feel terrible for Cooks Hill as they progress their club they will not have the opportunity to play on a suitable ground for State League once and if they get there.

I will also point out that once the NRU starts playing on the pitch, the field will be unplayable for football. Give it one wet weekend and lets see how the NRU treats the field. Of course i still have a bad feeling that if Olympic go to No. 2, who will be knocking on the door of NCC to gain access to Darling Street. Advice to Olympic, be careful with the political games you play as the NRU are not silly and they would love to claim two grounds on Darling Street...

[De-Champ]

So why cant they have a "Festival of Football" at Darling Street? And seriously who will for one admission price, or even free entry, come and watch 7 or 8 games of football? Lets do the sums on worst case scenario, 7 games x 1.5hours equals 10.5 hours of football, so they start at 9am and finish at 7.30pm. Wow that is a mighty big day of football. Now lets go worst case scenario, 8 games x 2hours (1h 45mins for the game and 15mins warm up before hand) equals 16 hours of football. Start at 7am and finish at 11pm. WOW now that is a massive "Festival of Football". Who has the time, commitment, or even patience to watch so many games...

You see even the worst case scenario does not make sense. This festival of football does not make sense. A full days hire of No. 2 does not make sense. Im sorry but i just dont see it and i stand by my earlier comments i think there is more at play here than meets the eye. What does make sense is having a festival of football at Darling Street where there are two fields that could be utilised to cut the play time by a third at least leaving only the top three of four grades to play one the main field with no other games on the other.

I had also heard this was all about getting a foothold on No. 2. People, wake up and smell the roses. The NRU have been a part of the construction of the facility and it was all their lobbying that got the project started. It is a NRU project in NCC colours. Football looks like fools for trying to get a game on it. The NRU admin is located there. The NRU sponsor signs are permanently attached to the facility. The funding was attributed to the Council on the back of NRU submissions. Jodie Mackay made announcements together with and always inclusive of NRU. I have to say i feel terrible for Cooks Hill as they progress their club they will not have the opportunity to play on a suitable ground for State League once and if they get there.

I will also point out that once the NRU starts playing on the pitch, the field will be unplayable for football. Give it one wet weekend and lets see how the NRU treats the field. Of course i still have a bad feeling that if Olympic go to No. 2, who will be knocking on the door of NCC to gain access to Darling Street. Advice to Olympic, be careful with the political games you play as the NRU are not silly and they would love to claim two grounds on Darling Street...

Having the one price does not mean you have to watch every game.
As regards No2. the fact is that most of the grants/money came from the state government. And as such it is a community facility not just Union, even though they have their headquarters there, or main ground at least. As with most facilities, Part of the terms of obtaining funding was that all and everybody can use it (particularly soccer) but once the facility is biult then soccer is not allowed on or in limited circumstances.

[nbnjet]

Having the one price does not mean you have to watch every game.
As regards No2. the fact is that most of the grants/money came from the state government. And as such it is a community facility not just Union, even though they have their headquarters there, or main ground at least. As with most facilities, Part of the terms of obtaining funding was that all and everybody can use it (particularly soccer) but once the facility is biult then soccer is not allowed on or in limited circumstances.

True we dont have to watch all games, but why do we charge for 15s??? I didnt realise we had to pay to watch them and im not sure if other clubs would welcome this, and to be honest i dont think it is right either. So in reality the festival of football is not a festivall of football at all, its just an excuse to get on No. 2. So whats the point???

Yes the money came from Council / State Gov. But so did the money for nearly all of our football facilities, with the exception of Magic who largely invested their own funds and resources to the Wanderers Park facility. There may be others but i am unaware of anyone who has invested so much into a facility, Edgy giving it a good shot though. Dont forget that Gov funds nearly every sport that you can think of and develops their facilities. We do not have a god given right to claim facilities because Gov built them. If this was the case we may find that we will lose a lot of facilities.

A community facility is indeed a community facility, but so is Newcastle Library and Merewether Baths but we cant play football there can we, or in city hall for that fact. So not all facilities are equal and not all facilities are built solely for one sport but some are. As i said with nearly every facility around, they are either council owned and council administered, or state owned and council administered, or state owned and state administered. But in reality you cant have all sports on all fields. How would Olympic feel if Rugby Union or League wanted to play on Darling Street, or at Magic, or Edgy, or Southy, or Weston, or Adamstown?

And true they may have claimed that the facility as per the article below but have a look at the NRU comments, ‘‘all news to us’’. You see it was not built for all sports, and definitely not for football, regardless of the comments that may have insinuated that.

And how stupid do we look with Alan Nisbet:
NNSWF operations manager Alan Nisbet had hoped rugby and soccer could use the ground on alternate weeks. NNSWF put in submissions to use the ground on behalf of its state league, top-flight club Hamilton Olympic, third-tier team Cooks Hill, Women’s Premier League outfit Merewether and the Jets. But Nisbet said it would be ‘‘very difficult’’ to have the ground ready for top-grade soccer a day after rugby union matches had been played on it every week. ‘‘We don’t see it being as quite a viable option as we had hoped for,’’ Nisbet said.

Helooooo. Olympic, Cookshill, Womens Premier League, Jets (Youth, Womens, Development Teams). You need 4 fields sat and sun every weekend to cater for all those teams. And we contributed nothing to the facility so why would they let us use it? And Con Gounis just tops it off. I have never known Darling Street to not be able to cater to a derby match, especially the season opener against Lakes. They may as well move it to Hunter Stadium...

And the all important quote "Wanderers are the only guaranteed tenants this winter. The use of the ground by other groups will depend on the growth of the new turf." This was of course for last year but tell me who thinks it will ever change now?

Herald article: http://www.theherald.com.au/story/41...-sportsground/

The Knights will play some NSW Cup matches at the ground in winter and the Jets youth and W-League sides will call the ground home in the summer.
Northern NSW Football has been given permission to use the ground on Sundays and will allow its top-tier state league clubs to make submissions to host matches there.
When told yesterday that the Knights and NNSWF had been given permission to use the ground on Sundays, NHRU general manager Fenton Coull said it was ‘‘all news to us’’.
‘‘We were hoping to use it on the odd Sunday but at the moment we haven’t heard back from council,’’ he said.
‘‘For instance, there was a Sunday in late April we were hoping to host a junior carnival there and we’re just hoping that’s still OK.’’
The NHRU and Wanderers made financial contributions to the redevelopment and Coull said rugby contacts used in the earthmoving works had saved the council about $250,000.
Council recreation advisory committee chairman Nuatali Nelmes said the ground had to cater for all sports.
‘‘It was built not just for rugby,’’ Nelmes said.
‘‘It’s been the traditional home of rugby and Newcastle and Hunter Rugby will have their offices there, but that’s only part of it.
‘‘The ground was always built for the use of everybody, especially all those sports that don’t fit into Hunter Stadium.’’
NNSWF operations manager Alan Nisbet had hoped rugby and soccer could use the ground on alternate weeks.
NNSWF put in submissions to use the ground on behalf of its state league, top-flight club Hamilton Olympic, third-tier team Cooks Hill, Women’s Premier League outfit Merewether and the Jets.
But Nisbet said it would be ‘‘very difficult’’ to have the ground ready for top-grade soccer a day after rugby union matches had been played on it every week.
‘‘We don’t see it being as quite a viable option as we had hoped for,’’ Nisbet said.
Hamilton Olympic secretary Con Gounis said his club hoped to play some of its derby matches at the bigger-capacity ground and was still open to the possibility.
Wanderers are the only guaranteed tenants this winter. The use of the ground by other groups will depend on the growth of the new turf.

[nbnjet]

the proposed re-structure is a bit of a concern for all clubs looking to go up - why spend all the time and effort to go up to New-FM if it's not going to be around in four years

Northern are pretty pleased with the way we run things (largest club in NNSW to be accredited etc) and would be keen on having us up there, as long as we're in a position to do so, which we currently aren't

Restructure of the comp is a disaster. We will not be rewarding clubs for their abilities on and off the field. Promotion, relegation are a must in my opinion. This restructure will only promote politics in our code.

Cooks hill will be left behind if the restructure goes ahead, and that would be a shame. No matter how pleased Northern are, Cooks Hill will be shafted!

[De-Champ]

I think you will find that Adamstown has also spent a huge amount on "its" ground, probably if the truth were known more than magic or Edgeworth, but lets not argue that point. However just for your information, magic's ground was initially developed with grants from the government.
By the way you lost me with your point about merewether bars and the library, I was unaware football was played in either of them.

I do not understand why you are so against a festival of football. By analogy if they held a food and wine festival, would you be against it becasue you felt you had to visit every exhibit and stay the whole day?
They should be commended with coming up/trying to implement something which is different and which may advance the code locally.

[nbnjet]

I think you will find that Adamstown has also spent a huge amount on "its" ground, probably if the truth were known more than magic or Edgeworth, but lets not argue that point. However just for your information, magic's ground was initially developed with grants from the government.
By the way you lost me with your point about merewether bars and the library, I was unaware football was played in either of them.

I do not understand why you are so against a festival of football. By analogy if they held a food and wine festival, would you be against it becasue you felt you had to visit every exhibit and stay the whole day?
They should be commended with coming up/trying to implement something which is different and which may advance the code locally.

Lets argue the point i say! I can only go off info i have read or been told, and from what i am aware of both Edgy and Magic have contributed a huge amount outside of Gov funding. Show me a ground that hasnt had public funds devoted to it, but once again from all accounts the Gov funding of Wanderers Park is only minimal, unless you can advise otherwise? In saying that Weston may have foot half the bill for their lights a few years ago, no mean feat i must say. But Adamstown? Mate, what do you take me for? Adamstown spent a huge amount on their ground? You have to be kidding. From what was published in the herald i understand they got $140000 from Newcastle City Council to upgrade their lights and develop their training facility behind the main field. The grandstand was built for them. The field has always been maintained by NCC and i believe there is a semi permanent groundsman based there, or even two at times. They had care and control of all funds raised by the Adamstown No. 1 grounds committee that was packed with Adamstown people and who masterly denied other teams like Olympic the chance to play on the field when they needed to. And they spent council monies accordingly. How good would it have been for all clubs to be able to get their money back and reinvest on their own facilities. Now apart from that the canteen, which has been there longer than sliced bread, but not as long as the old entrance, i think they actually may have spent up big on the ticket box! Give me a break. Tell me where they have spent money on the facility? Im all for everybody having an opinion on this site but not for telling porkies.

IF I AM WRONG IM HAPPY TO TAKE THE CRITICISM, BUT I DONT MAKE UP STUFF!

Library / Baths, point being exactly that football is not played there yet it is Gov funded... Just because Gov funds something doesnt mean its open to whoever wants it. Just because there are a few blades of grass around the place doesnt mean that football has a right to it!

I am NOT against a wine and food festival. Sorry i will start again. I am not against a football festival. Lets get this straight i am against using No. 2, especially Olympic using No.2 sports ground. I can see Cooks Hill have a far greater argument for using No.2 but once again it belongs to NRU so there is no point fighting that, and there is no point poking the sleeping giant because as we give up a ground guess who will move in? I do however believe a football festival will not bring a mass of crowds that would justify Olympic moving to No.2 or even a Derby match that will justify a move to No.2. I cant see why they would waste monies when they can play on their own home territory, and lets face it by moving there they are giving up a home advantage. I cant help but feel they may have conjured this up with Northern via Alan Nesbit.

Have the festival but for crying out loud have it at Darling Street...

For the record i do like wine and food festivals, but i have not spent 16 hours at one, not even Octoberfest if it counts. And yes i will stroll around and pay particular attention to what catches my eye. BUT i cannot see people being at the football from morning till late just because we call the day a "festival of Football". If it was the World Cup NO PROBLEM, but seriously... If you have a 15 year old you will know they have so many other priorities too, not to mention taking the sister to netball, the other brother to Cessnock for another game. Hats off to those who will stay the whole day but apart from the committee you will be able to count them on one hand. And there is nothing new about playing football all day, plenty of clubs have played juniors before the main grades when they have had to, but i can guarantee you that with overuse of surfaces these types of events would not be a positive from the ground quality perspective. Imagine its a wet day and this festival of football digs up the ground for the NRU? Will a deserving local club like Cooks Hill ever get a chance to play on it if that is there dream?

Justify why playing a festival of football on No.2 from morning to night will advance the code?a

[Zico]

Lets argue the point i say! I can only go off info i have read or been told, and from what i am aware of both Edgy and Magic have contributed a huge amount outside of Gov funding. Show me a ground that hasnt had public funds devoted to it, but once again from all accounts the Gov funding of Wanderers Park is only minimal, unless you can advise otherwise? In saying that Weston may have foot half the bill for their lights a few years ago, no mean feat i must say. But Adamstown? Mate, what do you take me for? Adamstown spent a huge amount on their ground? You have to be kidding. From what was published in the herald i understand they got $140000 from Newcastle City Council to upgrade their lights and develop their training facility behind the main field. The grandstand was built for them. The field has always been maintained by NCC and i believe there is a semi permanent groundsman based there, or even two at times. They had care and control of all funds raised by the Adamstown No. 1 grounds committee that was packed with Adamstown people and who masterly denied other teams like Olympic the chance to play on the field when they needed to. And they spent council monies accordingly. How good would it have been for all clubs to be able to get their money back and reinvest on their own facilities. Now apart from that the canteen, which has been there longer than sliced bread, but not as long as the old entrance, i think they actually may have spent up big on the ticket box! Give me a break. Tell me where they have spent money on the facility? Im all for everybody having an opinion on this site but not for telling porkies.

IF I AM WRONG IM HAPPY TO TAKE THE CRITICISM, BUT I DONT MAKE UP STUFF!

Library / Baths, point being exactly that football is not played there yet it is Gov funded... Just because Gov funds something doesnt mean its open to whoever wants it. Just because there are a few blades of grass around the place doesnt mean that football has a right to it!

I am NOT against a wine and food festival. Sorry i will start again. I am not against a football festival. Lets get this straight i am against using No. 2, especially Olympic using No.2 sports ground. I can see Cooks Hill have a far greater argument for using No.2 but once again it belongs to NRU so there is no point fighting that, and there is no point poking the sleeping giant because as we give up a ground guess who will move in? I do however believe a football festival will not bring a mass of crowds that would justify Olympic moving to No.2 or even a Derby match that will justify a move to No.2. I cant see why they would waste monies when they can play on their own home territory, and lets face it by moving there they are giving up a home advantage. I cant help but feel they may have conjured this up with Northern via Alan Nesbit.

Have the festival but for crying out loud have it at Darling Street...

For the record i do like wine and food festivals, but i have not spent 16 hours at one, not even Octoberfest if it counts. And yes i will stroll around and pay particular attention to what catches my eye. BUT i cannot see people being at the football from morning till late just because we call the day a "festival of Football". If it was the World Cup NO PROBLEM, but seriously... If you have a 15 year old you will know they have so many other priorities too, not to mention taking the sister to netball, the other brother to Cessnock for another game. Hats off to those who will stay the whole day but apart from the committee you will be able to count them on one hand. And there is nothing new about playing football all day, plenty of clubs have played juniors before the main grades when they have had to, but i can guarantee you that with overuse of surfaces these types of events would not be a positive from the ground quality perspective. Imagine its a wet day and this festival of football digs up the ground for the NRU? Will a deserving local club like Cooks Hill ever get a chance to play on it if that is there dream?

Justify why playing a festival of football on No.2 from morning to night will advance the code?a

Well said.

[seldom]

have no knowledge on no.2 but trying to play football on a ground where thugby or union share is near on impossible. Look at valo and trona 2nd half of season their grounds looks like a minefield.

[De-Champ]

Lets argue the point i say! I can only go off info i have read or been told, and from what i am aware of both Edgy and Magic have contributed a huge amount outside of Gov funding. Show me a ground that hasnt had public funds devoted to it, but once again from all accounts the Gov funding of Wanderers Park is only minimal, unless you can advise otherwise? In saying that Weston may have foot half the bill for their lights a few years ago, no mean feat i must say. But Adamstown? Mate, what do you take me for? Adamstown spent a huge amount on their ground? You have to be kidding. From what was published in the herald i understand they got $140000 from Newcastle City Council to upgrade their lights and develop their training facility behind the main field. The grandstand was built for them. The field has always been maintained by NCC and i believe there is a semi permanent groundsman based there, or even two at times. They had care and control of all funds raised by the Adamstown No. 1 grounds committee that was packed with Adamstown people and who masterly denied other teams like Olympic the chance to play on the field when they needed to. And they spent council monies accordingly. How good would it have been for all clubs to be able to get their money back and reinvest on their own facilities. Now apart from that the canteen, which has been there longer than sliced bread, but not as long as the old entrance, i think they actually may have spent up big on the ticket box! Give me a break. Tell me where they have spent money on the facility? Im all for everybody having an opinion on this site but not for telling porkies.

IF I AM WRONG IM HAPPY TO TAKE THE CRITICISM, BUT I DONT MAKE UP STUFF!

Library / Baths, point being exactly that football is not played there yet it is Gov funded... Just because Gov funds something doesnt mean its open to whoever wants it. Just because there are a few blades of grass around the place doesnt mean that football has a right to it!

I am NOT against a wine and food festival. Sorry i will start again. I am not against a football festival. Lets get this straight i am against using No. 2, especially Olympic using No.2 sports ground. I can see Cooks Hill have a far greater argument for using No.2 but once again it belongs to NRU so there is no point fighting that, and there is no point poking the sleeping giant because as we give up a ground guess who will move in? I do however believe a football festival will not bring a mass of crowds that would justify Olympic moving to No.2 or even a Derby match that will justify a move to No.2. I cant see why they would waste monies when they can play on their own home territory, and lets face it by moving there they are giving up a home advantage. I cant help but feel they may have conjured this up with Northern via Alan Nesbit.

Have the festival but for crying out loud have it at Darling Street...

For the record i do like wine and food festivals, but i have not spent 16 hours at one, not even Octoberfest if it counts. And yes i will stroll around and pay particular attention to what catches my eye. BUT i cannot see people being at the football from morning till late just because we call the day a "festival of Football". If it was the World Cup NO PROBLEM, but seriously... If you have a 15 year old you will know they have so many other priorities too, not to mention taking the sister to netball, the other brother to Cessnock for another game. Hats off to those who will stay the whole day but apart from the committee you will be able to count them on one hand. And there is nothing new about playing football all day, plenty of clubs have played juniors before the main grades when they have had to, but i can guarantee you that with overuse of surfaces these types of events would not be a positive from the ground quality perspective. Imagine its a wet day and this festival of football digs up the ground for the NRU? Will a deserving local club like Cooks Hill ever get a chance to play on it if that is there dream?

Justify why playing a festival of football on No.2 from morning to night will advance the code?a

For your information $60,000 or so was spent last year alone with no funding/grants form the government or whoever. The 140k you refer to was years ago, just as years ago magic's ground was developed mainly with funding/grants. Nowadays it is maintained by their own funding just as many other grounds are.
I still do not get your pont with libraries etc, anyone can use them, i don't know of anyone who has been refused entry to a library or baths (except when they are emptying them out) but what has this got to do with football.
It seems to me you have a beef with Olympic.
No where have I said or has Olympic said that you have to stay the whole day at the festival of football. Just as you mentioned plenty of other clubs have football games on all day, why can't Olympic. Or is it you just do not like the idea of Olympic trying to get onto no. 2.

[shagga]

All of this would have been solved a few years ago if the Federation had any ambition under the Garry Screen regime.

All they done was sit on their hands and their millions$ while the Greyhound authority stole our ground, Breakers Stadium. They got it for a song and the Federation done nothing!!

Now they are going cap in hand to the Government to put in some poxy 5 a side courts at the Macquarie complex when they could have had their own Stadium. We could have had all our Grand Finals there, rep squads training out of it and playing all their games there as well. In other words a home for Football.

[De-Champ]

All of this would have been solved a few years ago if the Federation had any ambition under the Garry Screen regime.

All they done was sit on their hands and their millions$ while the Greyhound authority stole our ground, Breakers Stadium. They got it for a song and the Federation done nothing!!

Now they are going cap in hand to the Government to put in some poxy 5 a side courts at the Macquarie complex when they could have had their own Stadium. We could have had all our Grand Finals there, rep squads training out of it and playing all their games there as well. In other words a home for Football.

That would have been the logical choice, as there was all that land next door (which at the time the owners were willng to sell some to the Breakers for training fields, but never eventuated) the problem at the time was that when the federation were based at the "Breakers" they decided to spend their money on a head offfcie of their own at hexham.

[The Magician]

For your information $60,000 or so was spent last year alone with no funding/grants form the government or whoever. The 140k you refer to was years ago, just as years ago magic's ground was developed mainly with funding/grants. Nowadays it is maintained by their own funding just as many other grounds are.

Magic's ground mainly developed through grants? Sure... lets break it down once again... Watering System $40K, Lighting $40, Miscellaneous small grants totalling up to $12K since 2000... total= $92K ... Shit money goes far in Broadmeadow, from a flat paddock to a FIFA Certified International Training venue... Oh i almost forgot the 2 shade shelters built from the work for the dole scheme...

FYI- the 60K apparently spent last season on the 'ground' of that over 45K was contributed from the Tinkler lunch at the NJC, its good to have Baartzy in high places.

[The Magician]

Nowadays it is maintained by their own funding just as many other grounds are.

I would be very interested to know which clubs maintain their own fields and facilities with no contributions or assistance directly from NCC and the budgets they require for the maintenance of their playing surfaces.

[shagga]

Magic's ground mainly developed through grants? Sure... lets break it down once again... Watering System $40K, Lighting $40, Miscellaneous small grants totalling up to $12K since 2000... total= $92K ... Shit money goes far in Broadmeadow, from a flat paddock to a FIFA Certified International Training venue... Oh i almost forgot the 2 shade shelters built from the work for the dole scheme...

FYI- the 60K apparently spent last season on the 'ground' of that over 45K was contributed from the Tinkler lunch at the NJC, its good to have Baartzy in high places.

Hang on you forgot one important income stream????

10 years times $20,000 income from having the Grand Final every year, $200,000? I'm being conservative there by the way.

[The Magician]

The only people who get 20K from the grand final is the Federation

[shagga]

The only people who get 20K from the grand final is the Federation

ha ha ha stop it, ha ha ha, stop it.

Please!!