Nah,go for it,let it all out mate.If youve got any spare time maybe you can get started on the standard of some of the coaching as well.Originally Posted by Dreamtime Yowie
And don?t get me started on the standard of refs these days.
Nah,go for it,let it all out mate.If youve got any spare time maybe you can get started on the standard of some of the coaching as well.And don?t get me started on the standard of refs these days.
To be fair its usually just that same one club isnt it.You are better off just laughing at them like the rest of the program does.
So is 18s going to snrs football now?
Well with coaches that?s an easy fix. If I don?t like my son?s coach I just leave the club it?s not hard. You can play for another coach/ club. The standard of refs affects the whole comp.
I?m not singling out any club, I?m sure all clubs have seen the standard of it. Or you mean the club getting belted?
In youth NPL the best you could probably hope for is maybe a parent that played the game at a decent level and not much more unless your kid makes it to a higher level. I mean what can we expect for YNPL? Do we want an ex EPL player or Socceroo. No chance of that.
Last edited by Dreamtime Yowie; 21-08-2024 at 12:11 PM.
Yes apparently 16 and 17 year old boys are senior players.
Has there been an announcement for this from NNSW? Can anyone provide a link? Didn't the 18s only get moved into PYL 2 seasons ago?
Well yes they are. Spain have 16yr olds winning euros. Let them experience what it’s like to play with men. Or hey let’s wrap them up in cotton wool. Why change a system that worked for years. NNSW trying to come up with the next bright idea is only stuffing things up even more. They have just over cooked everything.
PYL only started two years ago.
Except it didn't work did it. And you aren't playing with men in U18s, with nothing stopping 16 year olds from playing with men this season either.
You could always take your son to go play in another comp.All Age and community dont get many refs at all,you would be happy there.Lets face it though,without a few teenagers out on the field to blame most coaches and parents would be sad because they are way too gutless to abuse players and coaches when they make mistakes.They need an outlet for their insecurities and to yell nice and loud to the world how little they know about the rules.I enjoy watching it.Cant wait for the inevitable flip out this weekend when all important trophies are starting to come closer.
How very deliberately obtuse of you so I will rephrase. Didn't the 18s only get moved into the youth structure 2 years ago with the introduction of the PYL? What is changing?
So has the decision has been made and the 18s are back on the seniors draw?Personally i'm in favour of it (the younger our local premier comp gets the better for me) but can understand that recruiting for year 1 is going to be a shambles if it starts next year.After that it should be an easier process.
Last edited by sapdad; 21-08-2024 at 01:50 PM.
There was no youth structure before except they were all individual comps, just 18s played before reserves. The only change was that generally 18s now played at the end of the day and not before.
As someone on the NPL thread said, there is no reason why you just can't have U18s play before reserves so clubs can charge the parents a gate fee (that is one of the main reasons clubs gave to move it back) yet keep them within the PYL structure.
Last edited by Taffy; 21-08-2024 at 01:37 PM.
How do you expect this to occur? It wasn't younger when 18s were playing before reserves all the time, why would it suddenly change now?
Younger players in the NPL will not improve because of this change. But it will change and we will see younger kids in is the change to the rules regarding 1st grade game day squads coming in which will require 2 U20s and 3 U23s listed on the 1st grade team sheet each game.
Its just an obsevation.As the youth programs get better from JDL up,eventually I hope that our best young kids are getting every chance they can get at the highest level available.If the experts think this is the way then so be it I support it.
Except the experts after 18 month review and consultation said the best way forward was how it is now.
It is only some clubs complaining about not getting as much money from canteens during U18s game as to why Northern are looking to put the U18s as an unimportant competition again that has no bearing on promotion and relegation for either youth or seniors.
I understand that the proposal was that 18s would play on senior game day but still be playing against their PYL opponent. So, theoretically, Belswans could be playing Olympic at home in seniors and their 18s could be playing Southy. The remaining PYL teams would also play Southy at Belswans but on the other day. It will the draw pretty complex.
That would make the most sense, however, seems that won't be the case because it would make the draw too complex.
If they remove 18s from PYL, then what happens when a NL1 club, say Singo, plays the newly promoted ZL1 club (say the Suns) and they don't have an 18s?
The only solution, if they want 18s on senior match day, is to make a difficult draw work and keep the 18s in PYL.
Decoupling 18s could lead to, over time, there being multiple clubs in NL1 without 18s due to current ZL1 clubs earning promotion, and a dead 18s comp in NL1.
All very good questions that I doubt Northern or the clubs including NL1 clubs that are pushing for this have even thought about. Just thinking about how to make more money. The NPL clubs couldn't give two shits about NL1 so of course they are in favour for it but Northern needs to govern over all the competitions and ensure they remain healthy regardless if a few clubs get upset that they can't charge the parents of 16 year olds money for coming to watch.
It will also lead a to lesser youth teams (U13s to U16s) as well as clubs that may get relegated will have to lose a 18s and then players leave because there is no 18s to go into. Already struggling to fill 24 youth grades, imagine what it will be like when clubs lose their youth players and then can't fill them again or hesitant to do the work to fill them again should they get promoted because if they are unable to stay up they go back to the same issues.
Unless they are going to make Zone Leagues have an U18s too.
Last edited by Taffy; 22-08-2024 at 10:29 AM.
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