Did see all games on Bartv. The NL Valo reserves was decent watch. Fair bit of youth in there as well.Originally Posted by Taffy
Alternative playoff system for mine is a 2nd v 3rd NL1 playoff, 1 game, then winner plays 2nd last NPL 1 game.
Did see all games on Bartv. The NL Valo reserves was decent watch. Fair bit of youth in there as well.
Alternative playoff system for mine is a 2nd v 3rd NL1 playoff, 1 game, then winner plays 2nd last NPL 1 game.
Kahibah First Grade player getting a straight red for ref abuse on the weekend. That would be that sides second R8 offence this year by the looks of it. I wonder if NNSW will start them on minus 6 points next season.. or would they consider it affecting points in the 2-leg finals game happening now..
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It?s Kahibah you are talking about, not sure if there is anything in laws about second R8 Offence occurring in the finals. Was ordinary from an experienced player heard plainly on Bartv and no team mates argued the send off so that says it all. Interesting decision coming from NNSW.
They’ll probably change it to an R6 offence so they don’t have to do anything like with Westy….
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They didn't change it to R6 for Westy they changed the rules and said the second R8 wouldn't be counted if it occurred in the same game
Check the spreadsheet. I’ll admit I was wrong because it wasn’t R6, it was R9. But it’s only R9 because it was done by someone on the bench.
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Now their coach has gone to the media on it - that club seem really driven to test how much tolerance NNSW will accept. Keen to see what unfolds here.
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Got text for those of us too cheap to purchase a subscription?
KAHIBAH coach Mat Moncrieff has challenged the interpretation of referee abuse under Northern NSW Football?s zero tolerance policy after striker Riley Ferguson copped a six-match ban.
Ferguson was sent off late in the 2-0 loss to Toronto-Awaba on Sunday in the NPL promotion-relegation play-off semi-final at Peacock Field after yelling ?you?re f?ing kidding? when not getting a free kick. On Tuesday he copped the minimum six-match ban under ?R8 ? offences against match officials? for ?using offensive language and/or gestures?.
The zero tolerance policy, carrying bigger sanction for offenders and their clubs, was brought in this year to curb referee abuse.
While not defending Ferguson?s action, Moncrieff said the outburst should be classed as dissent, not abuse. The sanction is in line with similar incidents this year.
?I don?t agree that that?s abuse,? Moncrieff said.
?The statement that Riley made, we got told at the start of the year that would not be abuse. You had to make it personal to the referee.
?I don?t think that is. They have lost full control on what zero tolerance is and the refs are just making it up as they go. They don?t understand what it is either.?
Kahibah host the Stags in the return leg on Sunday.
Adamstown?s Jacob Dundas will miss the rest of the play-offs after getting a two-game sanction. Dundas was given a red card for kicking out and striking a West Wallsend player in Rosebud?s 1-0 first leg semi-final win on Saturday.
The action was deemed violent conduct, which carries a minimum two-game ban. He will miss the return leg against the Bluebells on Friday night at Adamstown and, if Rosebud progress, the promotion-relegation final on September 7.
Meanwhile, Charlestown?s Tyran Cousins will be free to play in the NPL grand final, if Azzurri make it, after getting a two-match ban.
Cousins scored both goals in the 2-0 elimination final win over Olympic on Saturday night but was then red carded for studs-up contact on Joey Langlois in a challenge for the ball.
He faced at least two matches out, given the automatic one-game ban for the send off and an additional match because he had been suspended this year. He faced an extra game if the tackle was deemed ?conduct that endangers the safety of an opponent in a contest for the ball or has the potential to cause serious injury?.
The foul was classed under ?a careless or reckless tackle?. He will miss the minor semi-final against Lambton Jaffas on Saturday and, if they are successful, th
So nothing major said, though I doubt Northern said you are allowed to swear at a ref if it isn't personal. Could argue it is not abuse then it should be an R6.2 which is a 2 match ban for using offensive language directed at anyone.
But considering Kahibah is the club with the most R8s across their teams, you'd think they would know what does and doesn't constitute abuse by now.
Done by a club official so yes has to be R9 can't be R8.
This coming from their coach and broadcasted to the media feels fairly major
"They have lost full control on what zero tolerance is and the refs are just making it up as they go. They don't understand what it is either"
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Had a West Wallsend recently post on facebook about how the ref was a cheat and going off about him. That's arguably worse then saying the refs don't understand what Northern's rules are, and Northern let it go, maybe because had they applied a 6 point deduction then Singleton would be in the playoff and Northern had already organised the playoffs.
Plenty of people would agree with that comment to be fair.
Im not here to judge but as the dad of a referee maybe I can explain some of the thinking.Abuse towards the ref(which includes swearing) is a straight red.Questioning their integrity,right down to 'youre favouring them over us' is a straight red.Any use of the 'F' word (or similar) is a yellow.My son pretty much turns a blind eye to the general swearing on the pitch as its not ever a big deal but himself got carded this year for saying the F word celebrating a goal (awful rule I think).But when assessors are around if you dont ping people for abuse/dissent they get marked down and refs feel like they get demoted games so are a bit stuck.The example Foreverred posted seems very harsh,and if he got a straight red for that then Im surprised (were the quotes in that post verbatim from the report of heresay?).If it was a 2nd yellow then its pretty straight forward but if they were the only words said and he got a straight red then I feel thats harsh.Im think the kahibah coachs son is a NNSW ref as well so he would know the details of the rules.Going forward I would like to see the rules relaxed for players swearing in general play and a bit more common sense administered by the referees.But I absolutely think the harshest penalties need to still be dished up to coaches as they have no right to get as agro as they do.If coaches calm down its amazing how well behaved the players become and makes everyones match easier.
There have been instances of referees being abused on social media by players and they have been reported to NNSW.IMO this type of behaviour is way worse than 99% of stuff that is said on the field.If its true not only should NNSW,but the club needs to clear whoever wrote it out of their club.
You can see & hear it at 1:26:30 in this video if you're interested in reviewing for yourself.
https://www.bartvsports.com.au/footb...-v-kahibah-fc/
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Didn't get the free kick and said what he said, that was directed at the ref 100%, i still don't think it's a straight red, but that's the supposed law now days...
? you?re ? big word in this context
Thanks for posting that.I can see the ref considering that abuse and showing the red but its a harsh red in my book.Makes it hard when last year it was most likely play on and a warning on the run.But the refs have been instructed to be tough but again,I think its a harsh call on the player.Not sure why he didnt give the yellow and hope that it calmed the player down.For what its worth I thought it was a good tackle.
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