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    4 point gap between Valentine and Lake Macquarie after Lakes 2-1 win over Jets yesterday.

    Still a few weeks of football, but looking tough for Phoenix to come back from this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Lakes 2 beat Jets Yoof 1

    Simon Mooney with a tap in after goalkeeper (shitful) parry with 2 mins to go to win it
    Good finish for Chris Turners last game in charge

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    Quote Originally Posted by backstick View Post
    4 point gap between Valentine and Lake Macquarie after Lakes 2-1 win over Jets yesterday.

    Still a few weeks of football, but looking tough for Phoenix to come back from this one.

    Makes Lakes catchup games with Magic and Edgy important in the final few weeks. If Lakes get points out of these it will be Valo down and looking at NewFM Adamstown up. The buds are back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local Rules View Post
    Makes Lakes catchup games with Magic and Edgy important in the final few weeks. If Lakes get points out of these it will be Valo down and looking at NewFM Adamstown up. The buds are back.
    I hope this happens,
    i cant stand PHOENIX in this comp.
    Good riddance cahill oval......

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobra23 View Post
    I hope this happens,
    i cant stand PHOENIX in this comp.
    Good riddance cahill oval......
    I'm the same. I hope they fall back through the divisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobra23 View Post
    I hope this happens,
    i cant stand PHOENIX in this comp.
    Good riddance cahill oval......
    Attitude problem
    Would be bad for football as a whole, as Valentine have a huge number of teams. (The biggest club I believe.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by De-Champ View Post
    Attitude problem
    Would be bad for football as a whole, as Valentine have a huge number of teams. (The biggest club I believe.)
    Having a huge number of teams means stuff all when the bulk of your Premier team is from the Central Coast. They even imported two coaches from the Central Coast because they were familiar with the players.

    Ground with a cricket pitch and shared with Thugby League and Thugby Union should not be in the mix for the Premier competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by De-Champ View Post
    Attitude problem
    Would be bad for football as a whole, as Valentine have a huge number of teams. (The biggest club I believe.)
    well why did the biggest club have to rely on a merge into an already promoted PHEONIX team rather than
    earning there NBN promotion by themselves ?
    So bottom line is valentine should not be here to start with...

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    Quote Originally Posted by De-Champ View Post
    Attitude problem
    Would be bad for football as a whole, as Valentine have a huge number of teams. (The biggest club I believe.)
    I won't pretend to be an expert on Valentine Phoenix as I know very little of their inner workings but I would like to make a comment based on what I have seen over the last few years.

    Remember it's only one opinion so feel free to disagree :-)

    The way I see it the NBN side of the club has had a Phoenix approach (soley NBN focused) not a Valentine one of having a genuine pathway from u6's through to 1st grade. In other words the NBN football doesn't seem to be there for the huge number of local kids that they have but are there for whoever would like to play NBN for them from anywhere (my son is a player that joined from outside of their club thus over stepping a local product and I have watched many others do it as well). It seems to have really peaked this year with all the Central Coast players recruited. I don't feel its just the coaches fault, if the club allows it to occur then they own the problem as well.

    They seem to have lost many good young players over the last couple of years instead of them coming through from the really good youth teams they have had. There are a lot of good young players at other clubs at present. When these kids were first selected they would have all been over the moon and proud with dreams of playing 1st grade one day for Valentine.

    When clubs bring a heap of new players into the top team from outside the club then it usually disillusions the kids and they then seek opportunities elsewhere.

    I believe the club needs to drop their focus on the current "being in the NBN no matter what" attitude and be willing to drop down to Newfm (if it occurs) and become a truly Valentine club. Do it for all their kids and youth and then 'work towards' a future in the top league as this truly Valentine club giving all their kids a real home club team to aspire to and have it based somewhere in their area as Cahill Oval is not only a shocker but how can the kids possibly see it as a home for their senior teams.

    If it takes being relegated to a place in the Newfm so that they become this type of identity then i think it would be far more beneficial for the future of the hundreds of Valentine kids rather than the current setup.

    Whether they are in NBN or Newfm I truly hope they get it sorted for the future as the junior base is truly huge and I do have a soft spot for them.

    The new points system and new youth teams are suited to this type of club if implemented properly.

    Only my opinion.

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    Is Southy v JETS Youth on this week, if so which night ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newie4eva View Post
    Is Southy v JETS Youth on this week, if so which night ?
    I am lead to believe it is this Thursday night at Southy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newie4eva View Post
    I won't pretend to be an expert on Valentine Phoenix as I know very little of their inner workings but I would like to make a comment based on what I have seen over the last few years.

    Remember it's only one opinion so feel free to disagree :-)

    The way I see it the NBN side of the club has had a Phoenix approach (soley NBN focused) not a Valentine one of having a genuine pathway from u6's through to 1st grade. In other words the NBN football doesn't seem to be there for the huge number of local kids that they have but are there for whoever would like to play NBN for them from anywhere (my son is a player that joined from outside of their club thus over stepping a local product and I have watched many others do it as well). It seems to have really peaked this year with all the Central Coast players recruited. I don't feel its just the coaches fault, if the club allows it to occur then they own the problem as well.

    They seem to have lost many good young players over the last couple of years instead of them coming through from the really good youth teams they have had. There are a lot of good young players at other clubs at present. When these kids were first selected they would have all been over the moon and proud with dreams of playing 1st grade one day for Valentine.

    When clubs bring a heap of new players into the top team from outside the club then it usually disillusions the kids and they then seek opportunities elsewhere.

    I believe the club needs to drop their focus on the current "being in the NBN no matter what" attitude and be willing to drop down to Newfm (if it occurs) and become a truly Valentine club. Do it for all their kids and youth and then 'work towards' a future in the top league as this truly Valentine club giving all their kids a real home club team to aspire to and have it based somewhere in their area as Cahill Oval is not only a shocker but how can the kids possibly see it as a home for their senior teams.

    If it takes being relegated to a place in the Newfm so that they become this type of identity then i think it would be far more beneficial for the future of the hundreds of Valentine kids rather than the current setup.

    Whether they are in NBN or Newfm I truly hope they get it sorted for the future as the junior base is truly huge and I do have a soft spot for them.

    The new points system and new youth teams are suited to this type of club if implemented properly.

    Only my opinion.
    Great write up!

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    I really don't get the anti Valentine slant.
    What a lot of people don't get is that almost every club is run by a VERY small group of people who are doing their best for their club.
    True Cahill oval is bad, but from what I have heard they are working hard to find a solution to that problem - but there are no easy solutions, it will take time to get another ground up to NBN standard.
    I admire people like ForeverRed who are prepared to get in and dig trenches to get things done, even if it is next to a chicken coup....

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    Quote Originally Posted by newie4eva View Post
    I won't pretend to be an expert on Valentine Phoenix as I know very little of their inner workings but I would like to make a comment based on what I have seen over the last few years.

    Remember it's only one opinion so feel free to disagree :-)

    The way I see it the NBN side of the club has had a Phoenix approach (soley NBN focused) not a Valentine one of having a genuine pathway from u6's through to 1st grade. In other words the NBN football doesn't seem to be there for the huge number of local kids that they have but are there for whoever would like to play NBN for them from anywhere (my son is a player that joined from outside of their club thus over stepping a local product and I have watched many others do it as well). It seems to have really peaked this year with all the Central Coast players recruited. I don't feel its just the coaches fault, if the club allows it to occur then they own the problem as well.

    They seem to have lost many good young players over the last couple of years instead of them coming through from the really good youth teams they have had. There are a lot of good young players at other clubs at present. When these kids were first selected they would have all been over the moon and proud with dreams of playing 1st grade one day for Valentine.

    When clubs bring a heap of new players into the top team from outside the club then it usually disillusions the kids and they then seek opportunities elsewhere.

    I believe the club needs to drop their focus on the current "being in the NBN no matter what" attitude and be willing to drop down to Newfm (if it occurs) and become a truly Valentine club. Do it for all their kids and youth and then 'work towards' a future in the top league as this truly Valentine club giving all their kids a real home club team to aspire to and have it based somewhere in their area as Cahill Oval is not only a shocker but how can the kids possibly see it as a home for their senior teams.

    If it takes being relegated to a place in the Newfm so that they become this type of identity then i think it would be far more beneficial for the future of the hundreds of Valentine kids rather than the current setup.

    Whether they are in NBN or Newfm I truly hope they get it sorted for the future as the junior base is truly huge and I do have a soft spot for them.

    The new points system and new youth teams are suited to this type of club if implemented properly.

    Only my opinion.
    Agree with you...at last someone talking sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by late_to_the_game View Post
    I really don't get the anti Valentine slant.
    What a lot of people don't get is that almost every club is run by a VERY small group of people who are doing their best for their club.
    True Cahill oval is bad, but from what I have heard they are working hard to find a solution to that problem - but there are no easy solutions, it will take time to get another ground up to NBN standard.
    I admire people like ForeverRed who are prepared to get in and dig trenches to get things done, even if it is next to a chicken coup....
    For me the reason that VPFC are not very well liked is due to a number of things, yes their ground is pathetic but there are bigger reasons why people don't have any time for them.
    After the recent shit that went on this forum I'll keep the reasons to myself but I understand what you are saying with clubs struggling and people giving up their time to run clubs as I've done the same thing in the past but what VPFC have done is bought much of this negative feeling towards them on themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCBT View Post
    For me the reason that VPFC are not very well liked is due to a number of things, yes their ground is pathetic but there are bigger reasons why people don't have any time for them.
    After the recent shit that went on this forum I'll keep the reasons to myself but I understand what you are saying with clubs struggling and people giving up their time to run clubs as I've done the same thing in the past but what VPFC have done is bought much of this negative feeling towards them on themselves.
    i will say it for ya.

    * terrible venue
    * rugby league/union , cricket field only.
    * no supporters
    * no beer licence
    the list goes on..

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    Bel-Swans & Swansea > Pheonix
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    I'M GULLIBLE!

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    Is it true that Edden Oval will have an artificial pitch next year? That would solve any water issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweet FA Cup View Post
    Is it true that Edden Oval will have an artificial pitch next year? That would solve any water issues.
    I find this hard to believe would cost close to $1mil
    Quote Originally Posted by #fixsmithpark View Post
    I'M GULLIBLE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweet FA Cup View Post
    Is it true that Edden Oval will have an artificial pitch next year? That would solve any water issues.
    Can anyone really think that Newcastle Council is going to install an artificial pitch at Edden Oval?

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