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    Quote Originally Posted by leftrightout View Post
    So you saying 11-0 but singo were in the game?
    No I did not watch the game so I cannot comment. The point is which you keep missing, is you are judging teams on scores. Is there not any games in the lower divisions that are not big scores. Man city beat Man Utd 6-0 a season or two ago, what do you make of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by De-Champ View Post
    Is not that all subjective though.
    Team A gets beat 1-0 but was never in the game
    Team B gets beat 6-2 but was a close game
    which was the better game? better standard?
    You seem to be judging teams by scores
    Good point

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    Big weekend this weekend. Adamstown v Maitland in 1sts and even bigger the 23s game.
    Even though Adamstown really have promotion wrapped up still an awesome match to watch in 1sts.
    23s is pretty much for the premiership so will be a hugely entertaining match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by De-Champ View Post
    No I did not watch the game so I cannot comment. The point is which you keep missing, is you are judging teams on scores. Is there not any games in the lower divisions that are not big scores. Man city beat Man Utd 6-0 a season or two ago, what do you make of that.
    A one of result fair enough, that can happen.
    But when a team scores 17 goals in 4 days and has also had many more results like them, its a fair indication that the lower teams are not at standard worth being in this league.
    The same argument is for any division that a team gets beaten by those kinds of margins, it just seems to be happening more in newfm.
    Having teams win 11-0, 8-0 and 6-0 week in week out its not good for anyone.

    And yes it is subjective... its purely opinion so you cannot say i am wrong, as i cannot say you are.
    We will never know!
    I just see it as, the teams lower on the table should obviously not be in this division as they are constantly being whipped!
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    Quote Originally Posted by De-Champ View Post
    No I did not watch the game so I cannot comment. The point is which you keep missing, is you are judging teams on scores. Is there not any games in the lower divisions that are not big scores. Man city beat Man Utd 6-0 a season or two ago, what do you make of that.
    Also, no i am not judging purely on scores.
    I watch a lot of football through newcastle divisions, and it is my opinion that the lower teams in this competition are not as good a quality as they could/should be and i think other teams in lower division could do better....
    Its an opinion that is all, just the same as i think Barcelona are better than Real Madrid or Adamstown are better than Phoenix but others would disagree!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keep the long balls short View Post
    I believe they can my friend .. Adamstown are only 5pts clear and there are still 2 rounds of Football to play !!

    Do I think they can ..NO , but they still themselves have to believe they can otherwise no point them even turning up at the weekend.
    The game this weekend for both Adamstown and maitland as important as its might be can any one really believe Westy will beat Adamstown on the last day, NO.
    If maitland were to beat Adamstown a draw vs Westy will see them promoted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftrightout View Post
    A one of result fair enough, that can happen.
    But when a team scores 17 goals in 4 days and has also had many more results like them, its a fair indication that the lower teams are not at standard worth being in this league.
    The same argument is for any division that a team gets beaten by those kinds of margins, it just seems to be happening more in newfm.
    Having teams win 11-0, 8-0 and 6-0 week in week out its not good for anyone.

    And yes it is subjective... its purely opinion so you cannot say i am wrong, as i cannot say you are.
    We will never know!
    I just see it as, the teams lower on the table should obviously not be in this division as they are constantly being whipped!
    Or it could be the top 2 maybe 3 are just to good for the comp not the bottom teams are not good enough for the comp.
    I still don't believe any teams in lower divisions would do any good against the likes of Adamstown than what the mid table teams have done.
    The problem with the comp is that all teams need to get 50 + thousand together like Adamstown this year, jaf jaf last year, Charlestown the year before and lakes before that have done. There was Phoenix before that and you could keep going back I guess.
    Who will be the big spenders next year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftrightout View Post
    A one of result fair enough, that can happen.
    But when a team scores 17 goals in 4 days and has also had many more results like them, its a fair indication that the lower teams are not at standard worth being in this league.
    The same argument is for any division that a team gets beaten by those kinds of margins, it just seems to be happening more in newfm.
    Having teams win 11-0, 8-0 and 6-0 week in week out its not good for anyone.

    And yes it is subjective... its purely opinion so you cannot say i am wrong, as i cannot say you are.
    We will never know!
    I just see it as, the teams lower on the table should obviously not be in this division as they are constantly being whipped!
    I am not saying your wrong and I am wright. I am disagreeing with you.
    I do not disagree with your point that the comp may be lopsided, my point is that the lower division teams you spoke about the Cooks Hills, Dudleys etc would not do any better than Singleton in the NEW FM if they were to swap places.
    For those lower division teams to do better if they were to swap places, would have to strengthen the side.
    All around the world including Australia when a team gets promoted, they get in a few new players. Jaffas did it this year, Phoneix did it the year they were promoted etc.

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    ^^^^ EXACTLY with the right money its easy to buy the comp....... as i said before with the players in the adamstown squad and also maitland you would be very dissapointed if u werent beating teams week in and out by 3+
    as everyone is saying newfm is a nothing league but currently its the only pathway to get into the Nbn u will never have a lower tier comp that will have 10 teams all within a few points of each other there will be 2 or 3 fiting out top spot the rest just make up the numbers and are generally better than teams in competitions below. too much criteria not enough money to keep juggling teams up and down each year

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    Quote Originally Posted by De-Champ View Post
    I am not saying your wrong and I am wright. I am disagreeing with you.
    I do not disagree with your point that the comp may be lopsided, my point is that the lower division teams you spoke about the Cooks Hills, Dudleys etc would not do any better than Singleton in the NEW FM if they were to swap places.
    For those lower division teams to do better if they were to swap places, would have to strengthen the side.
    All around the world including Australia when a team gets promoted, they get in a few new players. Jaffas did it this year, Phoneix did it the year they were promoted etc.
    I will agree teams like Dudley, Barnsley, Mayfield would have to bring in one or two maybe.
    I honestly believe Cooks Hill and Uni would do better in newfm with the squads they have then some that are there already.
    Obviously the we will never know if its true or not. I do believe Cooks Hill are pretty eager to gain promotion though.

    I also agree that Maitland and Adamstown should be beating these teams easily, in my opinion both clubs could compete in NBN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leftrightout View Post
    I will agree teams like Dudley, Barnsley, Mayfield would have to bring in one or two maybe.
    I honestly believe Cooks Hill and Uni would do better in newfm with the squads they have then some that are there already.
    Obviously the we will never know if its true or not. I do believe Cooks Hill are pretty eager to gain promotion though.

    I also agree that Maitland and Adamstown should be beating these teams easily, in my opinion both clubs could compete in NBN.
    I thought cooks hill and uni have both lost a fews games each, is this true?
    Who have they lost to if so?
    As if these 2 teams are not dominating there comp it don't make since that they would be ok in new fm with out adding players

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    yes, it is Cooks Hill United's stated aim to move up to New FM

    yes, we appreciate that we would be looking to add players should we move

    pretty obvious really, though in saying that it probably wouldn't be a complete overhaul, more just in terms of the natural changes that occur year in year out

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    Good luck to everyone this weekend whoever your team is..

    Winning the league , staying in the hunt for finals places or trying to avoid the dreaded relegation. I love this time of year and it often throws up a surprise result or two along the way.

    I hope Adamstown secure victory and promotion to the NBN as I think they are ready for the return. I remember some great crowds and great days with the buds and it is I think for the greater good of local football that a club like that are likely to be back in the state lague next season.

    That said I fully expect Maitland to push them all the way this weekend and it is sure to be a great game and a great advert for Newfm.

    Good luck also to Adamstown and Maitland 23s as they battle it out for a winner takes all game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boz-monaut View Post
    yes, it is Cooks Hill United's stated aim to move up to New FM

    yes, we appreciate that we would be looking to add players should we move

    pretty obvious really, though in saying that it probably wouldn't be a complete overhaul, more just in terms of the natural changes that occur year in year out
    If nnsw do take the top 2 up and make it a 12 team comp.
    Who else would most likely go up with cooks hill?

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    It'd have to be Uni. Even their place at top end of the table not withstanding, they would be most sustainable with the amount of players they have to choose from. Especially with the transition from u23s/Res/1sts to 19/23/1sts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spamg172 View Post
    It'd have to be Uni. Even their place at top end of the table not withstanding, they would be most sustainable with the amount of players they have to choose from. Especially with the transition from u23s/Res/1sts to 19/23/1sts.
    Can't be uni, as under the new criteria (NPL 2015) or whatever it is called the two divisons have to have juniors. ie 13, 14, 15 and 16 as well as the 19s, 22 and 1st

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    Anyone else going up to maitland tomorrow? Should be a cracking day

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    Quote Originally Posted by De-Champ View Post
    Can't be uni, as under the new criteria (NPL 2015) or whatever it is called the two divisons have to have juniors. ie 13, 14, 15 and 16 as well as the 19s, 22 and 1st
    My assumption was not all teams in NewFM had to have a NPL licensees, but if you wanted to be promoted into the NPL you have to hold one prior to winning NewFm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Premy View Post
    My assumption was not all teams in NewFM had to have a NPL licensees, but if you wanted to be promoted into the NPL you have to hold one prior to winning NewFm
    Doesn't that in it's self make a joke of the NEWFM comp? Why have promotion and relegation if not all the clubs in the NEWFM have the ambition to play NBN? Remember the bullshit that went on a few years back with Uni and I think it Dudley winning the then 2HD but lakes and Awaba were saved due to them not wanting or qualifiing for promotion?
    If promotion and relegation is to work then every side in the lower division needs to be ready and able to make the step up and promote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zico View Post
    Doesn't that in it's self make a joke of the NEWFM comp? Why have promotion and relegation if not all the clubs in the NEWFM have the ambition to play NBN? Remember the bullshit that went on a few years back with Uni and I think it Dudley winning the then 2HD but lakes and Awaba were saved due to them not wanting or qualifiing for promotion?
    If promotion and relegation is to work then every side in the lower division needs to be ready and able to make the step up and promote.
    Amen

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