2015 NPL Youth

[GO AWAY]

Bit ironic if this weeks games in NBN get called off, as looking likely, poor Lambton would lose without getting to play, and Azzuri go through to play them next week ... hhhhm interesting

[MFKS]

Bit ironic if this weeks games in NBN get called off, as looking likely, poor Lambton would lose without getting to play, and Azzuri go through to play them next week ... hhhhm interesting

I see the irony but it is more distressing that a city our size struggles to have one ground capable of being played this weekend after a few days of rain.

Lets face it the rain hasn't reached any epic levels the last few days and despite having over 100 years to get suitable facilities to cope with wet weather we are praying it fines up to get some games played. Not really good enough

[ForeverRed]

I see the irony but it is more distressing that a city our size struggles to have one ground capable of being played this weekend after a few days of rain.

Lets face it the rain hasn't reached any epic levels the last few days and despite having over 100 years to get suitable facilities to cope with wet weather we are praying it fines up to get some games played. Not really good enough

the chicken sheds available

[Bremsstrahlung]

[Beast]

Have to agree to some degree as a few years ago when my son went through the rep program the coach told him who he should play for and even introduced him to the club, along with a few other players.

[Bremsstrahlung]

sorry 1 last thing, as for poaching players again the light blue team and the red/black stripes team , also now to the game the green and red team- i am sure you get the message.
hovering around the SAP 12's games, like pedo's promising coaching roles for Macquarie coaches, on the condition they bring there best whole teams over- didnt Chocky do that this year at Edgy in the 13's, after he was rejected at 5 clubs 1st, it was a great success, now we hear the green and red team, promising coaching roles, and player positions , so are the blue grekos team, as well as Foley FC.
There is massive fundamental issues here with football in Newcastle, and untill the Zone muppetts are removed, we develop shit

I'll bite.

What's the problem?


Should they be distributed evenly to all the NPL teams?
Everyone has a choice. Just because Jack Black's coach is coaching at Red/black, doesn't mean jack black HAS to go there, but if he wants to he can.

Foley is a great youth coach. Why wouldn't you want to play for him if he is going to develop your game the best?

[MFKS]

Clubs need to start developing there own kids, clubs also need to create a culture, for them not to want and leave and go elsewhere.. as for the EJets needing untill 1st October, what a load of crap.....if they cant identify kids throughout the year, how can non paid people be able to identify.. and they need more time to view..personally every club should be able to prepare and select players for preseason,as soon as the finals are over. NNSW F sending out warning letters and emails to all clubs and players is comical.. all NPL clubs, players and parents should now send back to NNSW F a warning letter to them, of how incompetent they are, and the tick a box approach to the NPL Youth format this year

Think that has more to do with them scheduling trials after the NPL season has finished for possible prospects for the EJ.

If they scheduled them during the season everyone would be up in arms about that

[Thomas477]

the chicken sheds available

Unless it's improved since 3-4 week ago when we had that other bout of rain, it shouldn't be played on, was all mud and wasn't up to amateur all age standard, let alone NPL. Not your guys fault, but the games should have been called off.

Also, FFS, the kids are 12-13 years old.

[MFKS]

MFKS- agree
but if paid persons, cant get off there asses and watch talent that exists everywhere week in week out, but then want the monopoly at the end of the season to suit there incompetent methods of selection, last year they trialed for 6+ weeks, blind freddy can determine if a kid has it or not, unless your related, then you get in anyways.

Beats me why they need trials also.

End of the day they should have all the best kids already in their system.

As you say maybe they need to actually get off their arses and get to the NPL Youth games to actually identify them early.

What exactly does the Head of the Emerging Jets actually do??

[Bremsstrahlung]

I feel like we just went around in one big circle.


In my opinion, while it is a bit dodgy, I don't see a problem with an NPL Club, scouting out a U/12 Development team coach and giving him the U/13s coach position, and that said coach bringing in majority of his U/12s development team. This looks like a natural progression for both coach and players. This is not sustainable though. These development teams are supposedly the best ~15 players in the area, so it appears to me to be a big coup to whoever can ascertain the services of these players. The problem would occur if these players were blackmailed there by coach.

I'll use Foley at Charlestown --> Edgy as an example. Not privy to all the details, not pretending I am. But on face value, Foley, had a falling out at Charlestown and was offered a position at Edgeworth. Accepted said position as Edgeworth coach. Now I've heard the majority of his Charlestown team, followed him to Edgy. Can I ask in all seriousness what about this scenario, do you not agree with?

Interchangeably, a U/12 development team coach is offered a U/13s coaching gig at an NPL club. U/12 players enjoyed playing with said coach and see this as a good opportunity to join a NPL club. So they join him. For me, this is a clever way to get a group of promising young footballers into your NPL club. I'm sure all clubs would appreciate that this is not sustainable in the long term but in a competition where you are competing with other clubs, it will be seen as justified. There's nothing stopping other clubs from trying to do this?

[ForeverRed]

This years selections a being run and controlled by NNSWF because they believe the process was floored last year, please give be strength, pot kettle black glass houses

[Bremsstrahlung]

With that, these development teams could well be obsolete soon as the NPL Youth starts to effect.

[MFKS]

This years selections a being run and controlled by NNSWF because they believe the process was floored last year, please give be strength, pot kettle black glass houses

I take it you are talking about the Emerging Jets???

[ForeverRed]

Yep

[sancho_theswan]

the clubs who have been requesting deposits, and full payments are the same as last year...the funny thing with these non educated persons is..they are asking for money not because they want your son to only to play, the real reason is, they have no money and need to pay the current 1st grade players,coaches and poorly managed debts etc

thoughts on this issue??????

[namwob99]

plenty of thoughts
Charlestown- last year asked in full the $750 from each NPL youth player, before the end of the year, 60 players lets say, approx $43+ k in revenue- they have never had the pleasure to exploit in the past.
now we hear, they are $30k in debt, with outstanding registration fees, and again, asking for non refundable deposits, band aid football and politically bullshit, from these blue forumists- is that a word? personally this isnt the only club, but the #1 in setting this benchmark> go the blues!

Fark!! $750. That's farken ridiculous!!

[Bremsstrahlung]

$750 :|
That's robbery.
I was playing seniors and never paid more than $400. All the training kits, rego, warm up, match stuff, dress stuff, everything included.

[MFKS]

plenty of thoughts
Charlestown- last year asked in full the $750 from each NPL youth player, before the end of the year, 60 players lets say, approx $43+ k in revenue- they have never had the pleasure to exploit in the past.
now we hear, they are $30k in debt, with outstanding registration fees, and again, asking for non refundable deposits, band aid football and politically bullshit, from these blue forumists- is that a word? personally this isnt the only club, but the #1 in setting this benchmark> go the blues!

You get shit like this happening and it it hard to justify any reason to pay players in first grade

[MFKS]

the best kids at the EJets are the ones, who don't have relatives, as coaches, managers, canteen ladies, or ryan Campbell's whole family. which would only be probably 6 players in each team........if they did there job right they would, now we hear, as the Mariners Youth are gone, they are targeting all the Mariners kids for the EJets program, now we ask why Newcastle football and the talent is shit.they are never given the chance to develop.
the difference is, in Sydney it would be nearly impossible to get into there programs, unless you are from there and a registered Football NSW player, possibly Brandon Lundy the only exception?

Give some benefit of the doubt as teething problems for the time being.

Be ridiculous though if the same thing happens this year and they ain't getting closer to getting the best kids available in the system.

[wannabe]

plenty of thoughts
Charlestown- last year asked in full the $750 from each NPL youth player, before the end of the year, 60 players lets say, approx $43+ k in revenue- they have never had the pleasure to exploit in the past.
now we hear, they are $30k in debt, with outstanding registration fees, and again, asking for non refundable deposits, band aid football and politically bullshit, from these blue forumists- is that a word? personally this isnt the only club, but the #1 in setting this benchmark> go the blues!

Pretty sure if you check your history you will find that azzurri were stripped of their nyl teams years ago for doing the same shit back then.Getting the kids regos a year in advance to pay out the first grade squad from the season just played