Been patient for 4 years now.......No more talk...Results
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/26...tience/?cs=306
Been patient for 4 years now.......No more talk...Results
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/26...tience/?cs=306
Dare to Zlatan
Originally Posted by Grimario
He won't make that mistake at Newcastle since our team is full of number 2's.
All I see are a pile of empty excuses and clichés to try and justify their mediocrity and general shiteness.
How about cutting the shit and accepting only the best.
What we seen from our boys last Sunday was not good enough end of story. It is not an aberration or anything like that it is something we are accustomed to doing
Whilst we have people in high positions making excuses for failures we are going nowhere fast
What is the club doing to Baartz, or what is he doing to himself? There has been sweet f all over the last few years that Baartz has done or said that I've agreed with, or wanted to rally behind. He's saying a bunch of shit things that make him as a target, and potentially threaten his glowing reputation in this town, for no good reason.
The on-field results are shit - either say nothing, or call a spade a spade. 1 point from 9.
OK
this article is as if not more embarrassing than gibbs coming out last year and saying he used to loved the gypos.
the fans have been f**king patient, there would be no members if we weren't
just let the fans vent ffs
Originally Posted by militiamon
I agree, Body. It's been mentioned on numerous occasions that we have been the least successful team in the last 4 years with every other team reaching the finals at least once in that time. If that had happened to other clubs, I wonder whether they'd be getting the membership numbers we are? There are teams that have had more success than us that still have fewer memberships
We have very loyal supporters and they're entitled not to accept the performance of the team and voice their - they're paying their money to attend matches, watch us on foxtel or other means.
Baartz, I assume, is trying to convey a message of stick with the team because we're just starting out (again) and results will come - but it's not like the fans are overtly displaying signs of displeasure. We aren't protesting or forming blockades out the front of the club. We're actually having people show up at away games. So what has prompted him to do so?
The pressure, if anything, is media driven. They're the ones saying we're under pressure, and a if few choice comments in a public mediums such as twitter or particular newspaper website are enough to bring Baartz out telling us to "be patient", then the media (i.e. the Herald) are certainly fishing for stories on a slow news day.
The Championship Chronicles - The Jetstream's review of the 2007/08 season. www.newcastlefootball.net/chronicles
To be fair, it'd be interesting to see how our membership numbers would be if we had a similarly-priced membership to every other club.
OK
That's a very valid point. I don't think it would be as high as it is, but we just have to judge what's in front of us.
The Championship Chronicles - The Jetstream's review of the 2007/08 season. www.newcastlefootball.net/chronicles
You are right they would be lower but we would still have pretty good turn outs.
Look at the Knoughts they have been shit since Johns left and still get respectable crowds
Look back to the days of the Breakers and we were still getting pretty handy crowds considering how unpopular the NSL was and we spent our entire time not getting within a bulls roar of making the semis in those days except for that season that Andy Harper bloke missed 2 ****ing penalties in the one game to sabotage us.
By and large people of the Hunter are pretty loyal to the cause and we would still be getting better crowds with full price memberships than the Gypos get if they were on top of the table
Baartz and Middleby Out.
Middleby Gone
Lawrie Out
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/artic...s-caravella-1\Newcastle Jets star Zenon Caravella says his side would be "weak" if it used its difficult early-season schedule as a reason for lack of competition points.
By Greg Prichard
30 OCT 2014 - 6:57 PM UPDATED YESTERDAY 11:41 PM
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Four straight away games to start the season was always going to be difficult for Newcastle to negotiate and after three rounds it has just one point, from a second-round draw against Melbourne City.
It was very competitive against City and also in its 1-0 loss to Central Coast Mariners in round one, but then the Jets' game fell apart in the 4-1 loss to Wellington Phoenix last Sunday.
The schedule doesn't get any tougher for the Jets than right now. The team flew to Wellington last Saturday, returned on Monday and was scheduled to head to Perth on Friday for Saturday's game against Glory at nib Stadium.
Newcastle's home ground, Hunter Stadium, was unavailable for the first four rounds because it is being resurfaced for use in the Asian Cup. The Jets finally go home for a game in round five, against Melbourne Victory.
It would be easy for players to store away the excess travel scenario as an excuse should Newcastle lose to Glory, but Caravella is adamant the schedule is not to blame for results.
"You can't use travel as an excuse, because I think that would be weak – a cop-out - to say it's causing that much trouble," Caravella told TWG.
"We've had chances and we've played well in games, but the results didn't go our way. But the travel is not the issue - not at all.
"It is a difficult schedule, but at the end of the day the games are there to win. We can't use travel as an excuse, because it really isn't, you know.
"We should have got more out of the first two games, the way we played. I was guilty myself of not putting a chance away against Melbourne City. We could have had three points.
"Little things like that make the difference. I would never use the schedule as an excuse. It's not that bad, really. It makes it harder, but it's not the end of the world, you know."
Caravella said the week began with a mood of disappointment among the players over the Wellington result, but that they had since concentrated on taking a positive mindset into the game against a Perth side that has so far won two games and lost one.
"We've all been disappointed," he said. "We obviously wanted more out of the first three games than what we got, but we just have to stay positive.
"Things can turn around very quickly in the A-League, as everyone knows, and now it's just a matter of not letting what happened play on your mind.
"I think it was just one of those days against Wellington. They scored early, which always hurts, and we probably lost concentration in defence and lost our shape a bit and got punished for it.
"But there were still positives to take out of that game, as there were out of the first two, so we're keeping a positive mindset.
"The most important thing now is to keep the confidence up and keep the spirit going within the group and from there I think we've got the players who can do a job, and get the three points."
Caravella said the short turnaround between games was probably a good thing for Newcastle this week. He also thought that, under the circumstances, an away game might be good as well.
"We had Tuesday off, so we didn't get back to training until Wednesday," he said. "And leaving on Friday means you don't get too much time to dwell on the result. When that sort of game happens you just want to try and redeem yourself as soon as possible.
"Travelling for a game can help breed that 'stick together' mentality, as well, and that's what we're hoping happens now. We can stick together and fight for these points.
"It's still early days, but we don't want to be left behind the rest of the pack. Everyone's got to band together and really fight for these next few games.
"There are no easy games in the A-League. Every week it's tough. The salary cap is the reason why, I think. Every team is hard to play against and there are no easy-beats, so it makes for a very interesting season."
what is Greg Pritchard smoking
Newcastle Jets star Zenon Caravella says his side would be "weak" if it used its difficult early-season schedule as a reason for lack of competition points.
By Greg Prichard
30 OCT 2014 - 6:57 PM UPDATED YESTERDAY 11:41 PM
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Four straight away games to start the season was always going to be difficult for Newcastle to negotiate and after three rounds it has just one point, from a second-round draw against Melbourne City.
It was very competitive against City and also in its 1-0 loss to Central Coast Mariners in round one, but then the Jets' game fell apart in the 4-1 loss to Wellington Phoenix last Sunday.
The schedule doesn't get any tougher for the Jets than right now. The team flew to Wellington last Saturday, returned on Monday and was scheduled to head to Perth on Fridayfor Saturday's game against Glory at nib Stadium.
What's Greg Pritchard smoking? Wtf is this clubs admin on?
Evert time the Breakers went to Perf they worked it out that going over a few days earlier from match day to get used to the slight time difference and conditions over there was beneficial.
They had a pretty good Perth away record all in all.
Day before....pffft. No chance. Well, not giving us much hope of one I reckon.
Disagree.
Time difference? Pfft
Weather conditions? maybe at a stretch
they go over there, they wake up at 7am , 8am, 9am what ever come 5pm local time you're ready to play Football.
The only thing I buy into on the Perth trip is travel time. Heading over a day early negates this, they are professionals FFS. Flying 4 hours a day before I work would not hinder my performance I'm not sure why people believe it should hinder a Footballers.
What's your job?
Painter and a days work last a lot longer than 3 hours(give or take)
Are you required to be at peak fitness and required to perform at optimal levels at all times in an explosive, dynamic and aerobically challenging environment in the presence of an opposition simultaneously stopping you from doing your job and requiring you to stop him from doing yours?
Pro sport is a cut throat profession, it's pretty difficult to accurately compare it to any other job.
It is a 5 hour flight over 2hrs on a bus to get to airport be there an hour before probably another hour plus when they arrive to get to motel so approx 9-10 hours to get to destination. Then 3 hours time difference, so if your body is use to going to sleep say 10.30pm you would effectively have to be bedding down 7.30pm or 10.30pm there time would be 1.30am so I can see how it can throw the body clock out and not great prep if you arrive the day before game day.
Based on our efforts against the Nix niether are we
Although I agree with your sentiments, I still find it hard to believe a 4hr flight throws you that much of you're game
Remind me to never go travelling with you.
Geez its a domestic flight check in is 1/2hour before the flight, they would be flying as a corporate group so they would have priority boarding. They get to the hotel a Jets employee would check them in, all they have to do is take the keys and find their room.
If it takes you 10hrs from your place of residence in Newcastle to a Motel in Perth, I would hate to see you going from Newcastle-Sydney-London etc.
Who's footing the bill for the extra night in n Perth if they fly earlier? We don't have any money
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