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ForeverRed
17-08-2015, 06:06 PM
Enlighten me..
are you saying magic don't pay overs to their players, if so I believe your wrong
mervan
17-08-2015, 07:35 PM
are you saying magic don't pay overs to their players, if so I believe your wrong
Seriously I think clubs and there committee can have more overall enjoyment in the newfm, where they can pay there players win and draw bonuses equally to all players that won't break the bank.
The npl is a vicious circle 4 or 5 committee members at each club bust there gut all off season raising funds to pay players then bust there gut all season running game day, all for the glory of the npl, must be enjoyable for some.
winner
17-08-2015, 07:37 PM
are you saying magic don't pay overs to their players, if so I believe your wrong
I agree totally with ForeverRed here
mervan
17-08-2015, 07:39 PM
I agree totally with ForeverRed here
I suppose what is overs, there is no cap
mervan
17-08-2015, 07:42 PM
I agree totally with ForeverRed here
One thing on magic is that they have improved there facility more than anyone over the last ten years, we must applaude that
ForeverRed
17-08-2015, 08:07 PM
No one can argue that, 3 FFA cup games should see more improvement, good luck to them but I'm afraid keeping up with the joneses won't happen in Newcastle
The Magician
17-08-2015, 08:41 PM
No one can argue that, 3 FFA cup games should see more improvement, good luck to them but I'm afraid keeping up with the joneses won't happen in Newcastle
in the end the clubs make the conscious decision to spend on players or facilities. At Magic 30-45K per year is spent on upgrading something, this is for the benefit of all at the club not just the first 11... Not applying this policy Magic could compete with Jaffas and Olympic on players wages but what for... 3 FFA Cup games we hosted because of that foresight from the committee, everyone can do it... Pretty embarrassing for other clubs that have been in the comp for so long but cant keep up with the Joneses.
ForeverRed
17-08-2015, 08:55 PM
You missed my point, it's hard for other clubs to develope facilities due to money being tight, unless you have a very wealthy buisness man behind you, and please don't tell me Broadmeadows wages are not similar to others, players don't change clubs for less money, especially after a grand final win, I personally don't care who gets paid what and who has the best facilities, my concern is not all clubs are on the same playing field and in the end the NPL will only be for one or two teams who have the coin,
winner
17-08-2015, 09:18 PM
One thing on magic is that they have improved there facility more than anyone over the last ten years, we must applaude that
I agree totally with merv
hamburgler
17-08-2015, 10:02 PM
in the end the clubs make the conscious decision to spend on players or facilities. At Magic 30-45K per year is spent on upgrading something, this is for the benefit of all at the club not just the first 11... Not applying this policy Magic could compete with Jaffas and Olympic on players wages but what for... 3 FFA Cup games we hosted because of that foresight from the committee, everyone can do it... Pretty embarrassing for other clubs that have been in the comp for so long but cant keep up with the Joneses.
You are kidding - Magic took at least 4 youth games away from magic park. Someone may correct me, but I heard Magic youth only played 5-6 games at home this year. Money spent on drainage in the off-season certainly didn't benefit the clubs youth!
The Magician
17-08-2015, 10:28 PM
You are kidding - Magic took at least 4 youth games away from magic park. Someone may correct me, but I heard Magic youth only played 5-6 games at home this year. Money spent on drainage in the off-season certainly didn't benefit the clubs youth!
2 games were moved... one at Charlestown and one at Blacksmiths... the games were played and not declared 1-1 draws like some other clubs may have been content with doing. This was a directive from NNSW to minimise traffic on the ground ahead of the FFA Cup fixtures. I think you'll find that the Magic Youth played more games than most other clubs with only 1 double points round also played during the year. So the committees extra work to ensure the games did get played regardless of venue did benefit the Magic Youth... there is no regulation that states games must be played at the venue of the First Team. Corrected enough for you Ham-bungler!
mervan
17-08-2015, 10:43 PM
2 games were moved... one at Charlestown and one at Blacksmiths... the games were played and not declared 1-1 draws like some other clubs may have been content with doing. This was a directive from NNSW to minimise traffic on the ground ahead of the FFA Cup fixtures. I think you'll find that the Magic Youth played more games than most other clubs with only 1 double points round also played during the year. So the committees extra work to ensure the games did get played regardless of venue did benefit the Magic Youth... there is no regulation that states games must be played at the venue of the First Team. Corrected enough for you Ham-bungler!
The burglar needs to do better research. Or is the magician wrong, over to the burglar
hamburgler
17-08-2015, 11:42 PM
The burglar needs to do better research. Or is the magician wrong, over to the burglar
You missed one to Connelly park, quality surface that. So 3 moved, plus a 6 point game. The bottom line - Magic youth did not play at Magic park from late May until the final round of the season. I made no comment about regulations magician, just couldn't see how $60k spent on drainage (or whatever the amount), actually benefited the youth like you claimed.
The Magician
17-08-2015, 11:56 PM
You missed one to Connelly park, quality surface that. So 3 moved, plus a 6 point game. The bottom line - Magic youth did not play at Magic park from late May until the final round of the season. I made no comment about regulations magician, just couldn't see how $60k spent on drainage (or whatever the amount), actually benefited the youth like you claimed.
The drainage benefitted the youth as some of the 6 home games played before May were played during rainy periods, which previously would have been called off, especially on 2 double header Yth Sat, Snrs Sun Weekends. Bottom line- so what- In the end the games were played Magic finished top 4 in all youth grades and the universe is in balance.
Sacre Bleu
18-08-2015, 01:04 AM
Magic youth have much bigger problems than missing some home games this season. Coaches being sacked mid season, a Technical Director seen as incompetent by the players, a coach constantly changing structure and player positions without ever training in those positions and some of the worst displays of nepotism ever seen while lying to the players that everyone gets equal game time. Expect a mass exodus if these same people are ruining/running the show next year.
Is Southy officially going down yet?
Bremsstrahlung
18-08-2015, 07:00 AM
Is Southy officially going down yet?
Gone.
Heard Valo plan to contribute to charity by participating in Dry April, May, June, July, August at Cahill Oval for the 2016 season.
Seriously though, how's Southy's player retention going FR? Most keen to try and get back up next year or will you need a few fresh faces?
For me Balcomb was their best all season, closely followed by Dan Johnson. Bures did well. Stevens, Pullin, Parker, Stocker and Wells all did alright when needed to step up, and will be better off for the experience.
hamburgler
18-08-2015, 10:06 AM
Magic youth have much bigger problems than missing some home games this season. Coaches being sacked mid season, a Technical Director seen as incompetent by the players, a coach constantly changing structure and player positions without ever training in those positions and some of the worst displays of nepotism ever seen while lying to the players that everyone gets equal game time. Expect a mass exodus if these same people are ruining/running the show next year.
Mass exodus wont faze Magic, they will just turn to their development squads (ie. ex: Emerging Jets) to bolster their squads again!
cobra23
18-08-2015, 10:33 AM
Mass exodus wont faze Magic, they will just turn to their development squads (ie. ex: Emerging Jets) to bolster their squads again!
Loving the jeolousy game.... :popcorn:
The Magician
18-08-2015, 12:40 PM
Magic youth have much bigger problems than missing some home games this season. Coaches being sacked mid season, a Technical Director seen as incompetent by the players, a coach constantly changing structure and player positions without ever training in those positions and some of the worst displays of nepotism ever seen while lying to the players that everyone gets equal game time. Expect a mass exodus if these same people are ruining/running the show next year.
Yet all 4 grades in Semi Finals and 2 in Grand Finals this weekend... GO MAGIC!!!
Yet all 4 grades in Semi Finals and 2 in Grand Finals this weekend... GO MAGIC!!!
well done.
but can you cook my eggs?
The Magician
18-08-2015, 07:47 PM
well done.
but can you cook my eggs?
Scrambled, boiled, fried or poached?
Scrambled, boiled, fried or poached?
poached would be great, magic seem to do it well ;)
plague
18-08-2015, 08:50 PM
poached would be great, magic seem to do it well ;)
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--t1kwRV4c--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/1372253010038141251.gif
Stanley
19-08-2015, 02:12 PM
On the topic of coaches, seems the "B" licence ruling by NNSW Football has caught up with the clubs, quality coaches reluctant to continue given the demands of B licence accreditation. Theres more quality coaches in the stands than in the dugouts.
Stanley
19-08-2015, 02:17 PM
Mass exodus or not it appears Magic deliver when needed, makes me jealous
Stanley
19-08-2015, 02:23 PM
Mass exodus or not it appears Magic deliver when needed, makes me jealous
Stanley
19-08-2015, 02:25 PM
Southy Gone, huge rebuiling required by the club
Is Southy officially going down yet?
ForeverRed
19-08-2015, 03:15 PM
Southy Gone, huge rebuiling required by the club
Please explain
Stanley
19-08-2015, 04:18 PM
Please explain
goes without saying, NPL Youth gone, coach gone, and more than likely the better senior players will opt for NPL football, all this on top of trying to get back into NPL ASAP, nothing to do with Southy as a club, the same would apply if it was Edgeworth, Magic or Olympic.
Goweston
19-08-2015, 06:50 PM
Go Weston u19's!
Please explain
Any word on who's staying or going? Id be thinking that Southy would be keen to bounce back up.
As for this year i couldnt pick a winner, anyone can get the job done on their day
winner
19-08-2015, 09:29 PM
Sportsbet's odds to win the GF
EDGEWORTH $1.90
LAMBTON $2.75
BROADMEADOW $5.50
HAMILTON $6.95
Newsfeed
19-08-2015, 09:35 PM
Sportsbet's odds to win the GF
EDGEWORTH $1.90
LAMBTON $2.75
BROADMEADOW $5.50
HAMILTON $6.95
Olympic are specials
mervan
19-08-2015, 11:04 PM
Olympic are specials
6.95 in four horse, value
terryk
19-08-2015, 11:07 PM
Any word on who's staying or going? Id be thinking that Southy would be keen to bounce back up.
This would be better suited to the New FM Thread now...
GO AWAY
20-08-2015, 10:01 AM
Go Weston u19's!
Thank Azzuri 19s for getting a draw against magic for this one, unbeaten last eight games , to miss semis by one point, including beating all top four teams , I think a lot are happy they missed the semis the way they stormed home, but dropping both games against the wooden spooners hurt them at the back end of the season .
hamburgler
20-08-2015, 10:18 AM
Thank Azzuri 19s for getting a draw against magic for this one, unbeaten last eight games , to miss semis by one point, including beating all top four teams , I think a lot are happy they missed the semis the way they stormed home, but dropping both games against the wooden spooners hurt them at the back end of the season .
Get your facts right Go Away, Magic beat CCB 4-0 round 1, then the 0-0 draw last week.
GO AWAY
20-08-2015, 11:11 AM
Get your facts right Go Away, Magic beat CCB 4-0 round 1, then the 0-0 draw last week.
Read the comment sunshine, if we didn't draw with magic last game, Weston would not have won the minor premiership ??
hamburgler
20-08-2015, 11:29 AM
Read the comment sunshine, if we didn't draw with magic last game, Weston would not have won the minor premiership ??
I can read mate, can you?
You said "including beating all top four teams" - which clearly CCB did not.
Off to Specsavers I'd suggest!
monz6
20-08-2015, 01:35 PM
Thank Azzuri 19s for getting a draw against magic for this one, unbeaten last eight games , to miss semis by one point, including beating all top four teams , I think a lot are happy they missed the semis the way they stormed home, but dropping both games against the wooden spooners hurt them at the back end of the season .
Don't worry about irrelevant things like scores, they are in the past. you guys beat all top four teams! congrats
GO AWAY
20-08-2015, 03:37 PM
I can read mate, can you?
You said "including beating all top four teams" - which clearly CCB did not.
Off to Specsavers I'd suggest!
Ok point taken, should have read " took points off all top four " was only talking bout doin Weston a favour by drawing with yas in the last round geeez lol
hamburgler
20-08-2015, 04:08 PM
Ok point taken, should have read " took points off all top four " was only talking bout doin Weston a favour by drawing with yas in the last round geeez lol
I have nothing to do with Magic, was just making the point.
I'm glad CCB took points off Magic as a matter of fact - all good.
mervan
21-08-2015, 08:24 PM
I have nothing to do with Magic, was just making the point.
I'm glad CCB took points off Magic as a matter of fact - all good.
R both games on Sunday?
Edgy / magic on Saturday , Jaffas / Olympic on Sunday
The General
21-08-2015, 11:37 PM
Any coaching news?
Is Morris staying at Weston?
Have heard Andrew Packer has Southy job.
Also heard Darren Sills has Valo - short stay expected!
seldom
22-08-2015, 12:44 AM
Who's Andrew Packer ?
Beast
22-08-2015, 01:19 AM
Is that the guy who had the 19's at Southy this year.
Quich search he played A League for a few clubs and also has a gig with the peanut huggers strength and conditioning coach if it's the same person
Fairgo
22-08-2015, 01:42 AM
Any coaching news?
Is Morris staying at Weston?
Have heard Andrew Packer has Southy job.
Also heard Darren Sills has Valo - short stay expected!
Short stay for Valo or Darren Sills? Good to see a new coach in NPL given an opportunity.
Bremsstrahlung
22-08-2015, 08:24 AM
Is that the guy who had the 19's at Southy this year.
Quich search he played A League for a few clubs and also has a gig with the peanut huggers strength and conditioning coach if it's the same person
I think so. Left the jets when they had the mid season exodus.
From memory, he joined Southy with as a coach and if my memory serves me correctly, there was a possibility that he could play. But i don't think he did.
Interesting choice if so.
onlooker
22-08-2015, 09:53 AM
Any coaching news?
Is Morris staying at Weston?
Have heard Andrew Packer has Southy job.
Also heard Darren Sills has Valo - short stay expected!
Steve Piggot to Maitland with rookie coach Reece Thompson back as assistant and Matt Thompson as another.
And yes Morris is staying at weston
winner
22-08-2015, 06:15 PM
3-3 edgy V magic
Edgy led 3-1 with half an hour to go . Edgy made a couple of puzzling substitutions which swung the game in magics favour
The Baby Piglet
22-08-2015, 08:39 PM
Very strange last 30min at magic park today. Not sure who the Edgeworth No.7 is, but he was quality
winner
23-08-2015, 10:21 AM
U/19s & U/22s are off at Olympic today. 1st grade still on at this stage
ForeverRed
23-08-2015, 10:36 AM
laughable
winner
23-08-2015, 10:42 AM
laughable
Can we get it transferred up to ulinga foreverred
magician
23-08-2015, 10:46 AM
laughable
Have you inspected the ground have you. If 1st 2 games were played. The ground would be unplayable for 1st grade
ForeverRed
23-08-2015, 10:55 AM
Have you inspected the ground have you. If 1st 2 games were played. The ground would be unplayable for 1st grade
It's the last game on there for the year, just play
judge
23-08-2015, 11:32 AM
Totally agree FR, no time to be precious about the ground. Should play into Jaffas hands as they will play football, so the better the surface it'll suit them.
It's the last game on there for the year, just play
The games should be moved to the magical centre at Speers Point and played tonight
Blueboy
23-08-2015, 01:00 PM
Totally agree FR, no time to be precious about the ground. Should play into Jaffas hands as they will play football, so the better the surface it'll suit them.
Have you seen the state of the ground? Maybe check it out. There is puddles of water all over it
mervan
23-08-2015, 01:23 PM
Have you seen the state of the ground? Maybe check it out. There is puddles of water all over it
There just prioritising the game that matters.
football_macigian23
23-08-2015, 02:29 PM
Just saw photos on their Facebook.. No way they could have played early matches, still puddles on it
magician
23-08-2015, 06:14 PM
2-1 olympic
winner
23-08-2015, 09:44 PM
2-1 olympic
Was at the game and thought Olympic could have wrapped it up today. Leading 2-0 and koina hits the post twice which could jave made it impossible for jaffas. But to their credit jaffas grabbed a goal back in the last 15. Should be a cracking game next Sunday at arhtur edden
mervan
23-08-2015, 11:49 PM
Was at the game and thought Olympic could have wrapped it up today. Leading 2-0 and koina hits the post twice which could jave made it impossible for jaffas. But to their credit jaffas grabbed a goal back in the last 15. Should be a cracking game next Sunday at arhtur edden
Olympic were good for the win, always looked dangerous with the ball in the air in the box, swancott was flapping away as soon as it went into his area. Olympic looked more desperate for the win.
The Postman
23-08-2015, 11:52 PM
Heard Swancott had a howler today, got baited by some spectators and was just generally off his game.
The Acolyte
24-08-2015, 04:55 PM
Got a report that Darren Sills was in the company of an ex Weston player at the Junior Grand Finals on the weekend. Maybe he's started his recruiting program.
ForeverRed
24-08-2015, 05:12 PM
If I know Sillsy he would have rang half of newcastle by now, why not, he has a job to do, good luck to him
The Postman
24-08-2015, 07:37 PM
If I know Sillsy he would have rang half of newcastle by now, why not, he has a job to do, good luck to him
With apparently 70k to spend, he should be fine. Piggo could take some Weston guys to Maitland too...
BP Super Dynamos
24-08-2015, 08:07 PM
I don't see anyone from Weston following Piggo, considering the playing group had him run out of the club
mervan
24-08-2015, 08:52 PM
I don't see anyone from Weston following Piggo, considering the playing group had him run out of the club
Maybe it's the players that are the problem, didn't they finish higher last year
ForeverRed
24-08-2015, 08:58 PM
With apparently 70k to spend, he should be fine. Piggo could take some Weston guys to Maitland too...
$70k, ridiculous amount, players aren't worth the money their demanding, when will clubs learn you don't need to spend big coin to be successful
seldom
24-08-2015, 09:16 PM
Which clubs did well this season without spending big ? I think Valo must of contacted every player in NNSW by now. Are their current players hanging around ?
magician
24-08-2015, 09:40 PM
Olympic were good for the win, always looked dangerous with the ball in the air in the box, swancott was flapping away as soon as it went into his area. Olympic looked more desperate for the win.
I was very amused with tanch's comments in the herald. They are lucky the tie isn't over. Good old tanch must have watched another game if he thinks the deserved more out of the game
Fairgo
24-08-2015, 10:00 PM
$70k, ridiculous amount, players aren't worth the money their demanding, when will clubs learn you don't need to spend big coin to be successful
Is $70k a ridiculous amount?? Not sure how it works with clubs but assume 20 players would be paid so if you averaged it out at $200pw per player yes I know some would be paid more some would be less but on an average that would be $4000pw x 18 weeks $72k. After talking to a player in Sydney a lot of their players are paid $1k plus a week over a longer season. Years ago I think it use to be you got paid if you got a result and bonuses etc I know that was with Rugby League not sure if this still goes on??
winner
24-08-2015, 10:08 PM
I was very amused with tanch's comments in the
herald. They are lucky the tie isn't over. Good old tanch must have watched another game if he thinks the deserved more out of the game
Yeah i agree. He sounded almost over confident and dismissive of Olympic . Big game on Sunday
The General
24-08-2015, 10:27 PM
If I know Sillsy he would have rang half of newcastle by now, why not, he has a job to do, good luck to him
I believe he has spoken to a lot of your players already ForeverRed. How many do you think will stay?
2leftfeet
25-08-2015, 02:34 AM
$70k, ridiculous amount, players aren't worth the money their demanding, when will clubs learn you don't need to spend big coin to be successful
to be honest I think football(soccer) players in this town should get more cash.
Some of the wests 1st grade footballers are on 40k a season.
about 4 grades per age group in u9s league soccer has about 20
In adults there is 4 comps for league about 30 for soccer.
Union has even more laughable amount of people playing it. Yet union first graders get more money then soccer too!
Which would be harder to make it to for an athlete ? Soccer of course with many more players fighting for spots in the top league.
Shame big leagues clubs like Wests don't support the game. For our participation rates in this country not enough people make a living from this game!
Bremsstrahlung
25-08-2015, 06:19 AM
Heard Swancott had a howler today, got baited by some spectators and was just generally off his game.
:rof:
Was his father there to defend him?
Guy gets baited so easily.
I remember a few years ago at Lakes, he was on the verge of jumping fences to punch on. Daddy came and had a few choice words to say to those baiting him.
cobra23
25-08-2015, 11:07 AM
:rof:
Was his father there to defend him?
Guy gets baited so easily.
I remember a few years ago at Lakes, he was on the verge of jumping fences to punch on. Daddy came and had a few choice words to say to those baiting him.
So he should,
If my son gets baited like that i would do the same thing... its called family and a dad instinct
Some calls these days go a little further then they should.
The Acolyte
25-08-2015, 11:23 AM
Dead right cobra23. It's called belting mugs, which is a legitimate method of crowd control. The better method is to line them up for after the game and invite them to show you and your son how fair dinkum they are
Dead right cobra23. It's called belting mugs, which is a legitimate method of crowd control. The better method is to line them up for after the game and invite them to show you and your son how fair dinkum they are
A player of his experience should be comfortable in handling a bit of banter from the crowd.
No doubt the remarks from the crowd can get quite personal and cross the line at times.
If I recall right some twat from the Gypos has copped 10000000 times worse from us and hasn't tried to snot us but enjoys giving it back in the right way.
Going and snotting the crowd is not acceptable in any circumstance.
Bigger sign of ones character to handle the situation and not resort to violence.
hamburgler
25-08-2015, 12:02 PM
A player of his experience should be comfortable in handling a bit of banter from the crowd.
No doubt the remarks from the crowd can get quite personal and cross the line at times.
If I recall right some twat from the Gypos has copped 10000000 times worse from us and hasn't tried to snot us but enjoys giving it back in the right way.
Going and snotting the crowd is not acceptable in any circumstance.
Bigger sign of ones character to handle the situation and not resort to violence.
Could not agree more Member, we don't play Thugby League!
Stanley
25-08-2015, 12:41 PM
$70k, ridiculous amount, players aren't worth the money their demanding, when will clubs learn you don't need to spend big coin to be successful
ahh, yes you do
Stanley
25-08-2015, 12:43 PM
$70k, ridiculous amount, players aren't worth the money their demanding, when will clubs learn you don't need to spend big coin to be successful
Only about half that required in NewFM
The Acolyte
25-08-2015, 12:51 PM
As in life, sport also has checks and balances. One rule is that situations alter cases. But the most important rule is that left hooks alter faces. This is the rule that bucket mouths need to remember.
Bremsstrahlung
25-08-2015, 01:01 PM
So he should,
If my son gets baited like that i would do the same thing... its called family and a dad instinct
Some calls these days go a little further then they should.
Really?
So Brad Swancott, a 30? year old man, who has played in the NSL and heard all of the sledging under the sun, and who loves a good retort, getting paid to play semi professionally can't handle a few comments and needs to kick balls at them, get in their face, and needs their 50-60 year old father to try and start a fight to protect him?
Gotcha.
I'm deeply sorry if anything I have said has upset you. Don't get your dad onto me.
cobra23
25-08-2015, 02:03 PM
Really?
So Brad Swancott, a 30? year old man, who has played in the NSL and heard all of the sledging under the sun, and who loves a good retort, getting paid to play semi professionally can't handle a few comments and needs to kick balls at them, get in their face, and needs their 50-60 year old father to try and start a fight to protect him?
Gotcha.
I'm deeply sorry if anything I have said has upset you. Don't get your dad onto me.
Not just talking about the swancott incident you knob,
Im talking any incidents, and yes they do get out of hand .. which 99% of the time are started by spectators..
and believe piss ant i definetely dont need my dad to stick up for me... But your lucky your a liverpool supporter .. LOL :rof:
The Acolyte
25-08-2015, 02:14 PM
The starting point of whatever may ensue is created by the spineless bucket mouths that think they are protected by the fact they are part of the crowd. A bit of fistic mayhem only advances this situation to a conclusion, hence the spectacle of Danny B's downtown decorum.
ForeverRed
25-08-2015, 02:24 PM
It's $10 bucks to get in, you should be able to banter all you want
The Acolyte
25-08-2015, 02:55 PM
Banter is light hearted chiaking, $10 fee. Abusive ragging cost a set of teeth.
Frodo
25-08-2015, 03:06 PM
If you open your mouth you should be prepared for the consequences, simple fact of life. No one has the right to insult someone else adn if you, i or anyone else want to say stupid things we should be prepared to deal with the consequences. If you're not a fan of fighting angry idiots than don't talk s^&t to them...
And paying money doesn't give you any right to banter, that's a pathetic thing to say.
Anyone who knows me knows i'm all for a bit of banter on and off the field but that's because i'm a dickhead, and proud of it, but you only give out what you can take back and if you overstep the mark you need to man up and apologize. Everyone has different boundaries.
The Cookaburra Kid
25-08-2015, 05:04 PM
Surely he can handle a bit of banter as mentioned above? Wasn't his best days in between the sticks apparently
The Postman
25-08-2015, 05:13 PM
Surely he can handle a bit of banter as mentioned above? Wasn't his best days in between the sticks apparently
A 30+ year old man should be able to fight his own battles.
Banter from spectators is a fact of life, try playing away at Beresfield when every man and his dog is sledging you. You just have to develop a thick skin and not respond to it, if you do it only gives the spectators more ammo.
terryk
25-08-2015, 06:04 PM
It's $10 bucks to get in, you should be able to banter all you want
Hey FR. What will South Cardiff charge in New FM next year? And does that mean the more you pay the more you can banter? What about junior football or NPL Youth or any of the zone leagues where you don't pay to get in, what gives you the right to banter there? Problem is banter is just not the "you're too fat, to old, to bald", it's increasing personal, foul language usually in presence of children and elderly, and generally limitless when dished out by a pack of drunken fools. And yes it's really abuse and not banter as it's fair to say most of the idiots dishing it out don't have a brain to think about what they are saying.
Bremsstrahlung
25-08-2015, 06:08 PM
Uhm. I'm just gonna pop a few things down that were said.
From what I heard, there were no remarks made about family.
Was stuff along the lines of "how much are they paying you to let goals in?" "Make sure you catch the next one",
"Couldn't catch a cold", "wow, you're getting a bit too old for this".
It was more the unrelenting nature of really poor banter than anything specifically personal.
Heard bowling getting sledged at the state cup final vs Southy last year, he had a laugh, faked a limp when they told him to retire, made a good save and asked the guy if he saw the save. Handled much better.
Keepers seem particularly easy to bait. The edgy keeper that got sent for flipping the bird in a penalty shootout, carter jumping a fence.
I agree. Some things are definitely going too far. But il talking about clever little comments that's they react to and escalate things.
Walking down hunter street on a Friday and a group of guys say "look at this guy" as you walk past. What're you gonna do? Ignore them and keep walking or you gonna say something?
Bremsstrahlung
25-08-2015, 06:11 PM
Hey FR. What will South Cardiff charge in New FM next year? And does that mean the more you pay the more you can banter? What about junior football or NPL Youth or any of the zone leagues where you don't pay to get in, what gives you the right to banter there? Problem is banter is just not the "you're too fat, to old, to bald", it's increasing personal, foul language usually in presence of children and elderly, and generally limitless when dished out by a pack of drunken fools. And yes it's really abuse and not banter as it's fair to say most of the idiots dishing it out don't have a brain to think about what they are saying.
I was at Jaffas game last week and in 22s a Jaffas player yelled, rather loudly at a southy player calling him a "f***ing sh*t c**t".
Is this ok?
The Baby Piglet
25-08-2015, 07:51 PM
A 30+ year old man should be able to fight his own battles.
Banter from spectators is a fact of life, try playing away at Beresfield when every man and his dog is sledging you. You just have to develop a thick skin and not respond to it, if you do it only gives the spectators more ammo.
I remember a few years back south cardiff had a group of followers "south hill boys" if I'm not mistaken. In all honestly i thought it was great for the game and atmosphere. They may have step over the line on a few occasions and all in all they behaved. I personally think the league needs more character
Jardelsimage
25-08-2015, 08:51 PM
bottom line, if you give, you must take, if not keep your trap shut.
there are lines thou, no foul language etc.
players thou need to need to be more resilient to this, needing to know they just cant bite....or the vultures will strike on their weakness....parents need to be more resilient also, cant hold there hand forever.... but then again they don't breed them like they used to.
Nothing better than listening or being involved in a good old slanging match with the opposition.
mervan
25-08-2015, 10:15 PM
bottom line, if you give, you must take, if not keep your trap shut.
there are lines thou, no foul language etc.
players thou need to need to be more resilient to this, needing to know they just cant bite....or the vultures will strike on their weakness....parents need to be more resilient also, cant hold there hand forever.... but then again they don't breed them like they used to.
Nothing better than listening or being involved in a good old slanging match with the opposition.
Most of these people are either jealous or in secure just like the schoolyard bully. Eventually when you ignore him he gets bored and goes elsewhere. But most are really dumb just like the schoolyard bully and they go back to digging holes for themselves.
seldom
25-08-2015, 10:34 PM
Wow...some of you blokes musn't have played an away fixture when an 'old boys day was on. Remember copping it big time on many of occasions. You can choose to laugh it off,ignore it or jump the fence and smash someone. I personally would get no satisfaction belting a bloke who's had 20 cans. Each to his own I suppose.
I remember a few years back south cardiff had a group of followers "south hill boys" if I'm not mistaken. In all honestly i thought it was great for the game and atmosphere. They may have step over the line on a few occasions and all in all they behaved. I personally think the league needs more character
These guys were great
Banter from spectators is a fact of life, try playing away at Beresfield when every man and his dog is sledging you. You just have to develop a thick skin and not respond to it, if you do it only gives the spectators more ammo.
:rof: this was my exact thought. Nothing compares to Bero away (in a good way imo)
ForeverRed
26-08-2015, 07:42 AM
These guys were great
They were fantastic but other clubs didn't think so, especially edgeworth and weston
They were fantastic but other clubs didn't think so, especially edgeworth and weston
Funny thing is I reckon the Southside guys, or whatever they were called at whatever time, would not only have been fine with other clubs having their own little groups formed but almost definitely would have WANTED it to happen.
Stanley
26-08-2015, 08:35 AM
Wow...some of you blokes musn't have played an away fixture when an 'old boys day was on. Remember copping it big time on many of occasions. You can choose to laugh it off,ignore it or jump the fence and smash someone. I personally would get no satisfaction belting a bloke who's had 20 cans. Each to his own I suppose.
Well said seldom, totally agree. The foul mouthed abusive idiots should be delt with by the duty officer, as for the friendly banter that brings a laugh, nothing better.
Wow...some of you blokes musn't have played an away fixture when an 'old boys day was on. Remember copping it big time on many of occasions. You can choose to laugh it off,ignore it or jump the fence and smash someone. I personally would get no satisfaction belting a bloke who's had 20 cans. Each to his own I suppose.
Absolutely spot on.
How one can derive satisfaction from caving someones head in whom you think is a half wit already defies logic.
Anyone who does is no better than the half wit anyway
Premy
26-08-2015, 09:15 AM
to be honest I think football(soccer) players in this town should get more cash.
Some of the wests 1st grade footballers are on 40k a season.
about 4 grades per age group in u9s league soccer has about 20
In adults there is 4 comps for league about 30 for soccer.
Union has even more laughable amount of people playing it. Yet union first graders get more money then soccer too!
Which would be harder to make it to for an athlete ? Soccer of course with many more players fighting for spots in the top league.
Shame big leagues clubs like Wests don't support the game. For our participation rates in this country not enough people make a living from this game!
Junior numbers should have nothing to do with Seniors payment.
Junior Registration money shouldn't be going to the pockets of former hacks or a never was.
GO AWAY
26-08-2015, 09:30 AM
Funny thing is I reckon the Southside guys, or whatever they were called at whatever time, would not only have been fine with other clubs having their own little groups formed but almost definitely would have WANTED it to happen.
Players who react like swancott does , only Spurs the banterers on more, at stags v Wallsend couple of weeks ago, hodgo was copping it from the stags faithful, only to start joining in on the light hearted humour, and giving it back, poor sledgers were loving it and had to turn their attention to gazz who wasn't as receptive as hodgo haha ..
Should be water off a ducks back for somebody of Swancott's experience.
Back to the action on the park.
These semi 2 legged affairs.
Does the standard away goals rule ala UCL apply or is it the other method where away goals make no difference and if scores level on aggregate after 2 legs FT then onto extra time pens to find a winner??
The Magician
26-08-2015, 12:22 PM
Back to the action on the park.
These semi 2 legged affairs.
Does the standard away goals rule ala UCL apply or is it the other method where away goals make no difference and if scores level on aggregate after 2 legs FT then onto extra time pens to find a winner??
Away goals only count if the aggregate score after the two legs is equal... e.g. Magic vs Edgy 3-3 first leg... if second leg is 1-1 or 2-2; Edgy go through on away goals... if 3-3 then extra time will be played... if 4-4 Magic go through... But if either Magic or edgy win the second leg away goals don't matter.
Away goals only count if the aggregate score after the two legs is equal... e.g. Magic vs Edgy 3-3 first leg... if second leg is 1-1 or 2-2; Edgy go through on away goals... if 3-3 then extra time will be played... if 4-4 Magic go through... But if either Magic or edgy win the second leg away goals don't matter.
So we are playing the standard away goals rules found in UCL and not the way done in the Football League playoffs
Ok
Yes, away goals rule applies.
Football League playoffs don't use away goals rule in any way.
I personally love the away goals rule, I think it's perfect for a 2leg match at any level.
magician
26-08-2015, 01:06 PM
Predictions
Jaffas 1 olympic 1
Edgy 2 magic 1
Yes, away goals rule applies.
Football League playoffs don't use away goals rule in any way.
I personally love the away goals rule, I think it's perfect for a 2leg match at any level.
I would disagree.
So many times a 2 legged affair is killed and remains dead as soon as one side gets the good advantage with away goals.
eg a team wins 1-0 at home and then jags an away goal early in return affair and it is all but over as for a contest.
The way the Football League does it I like more. Aggregate is all that matters and you don't see teams park bus cause they are away from home
Imyourhero
26-08-2015, 03:40 PM
I would say that I'm in favour of just a total aggregate. From all the semi final games I've played with the away goal, I hardly see any advantage in playing at "home", especially considering most apart from the 1st grade aren't actually playing at home/away. In Europe I can see how playing at home provides an advantage, with much bigger crowds etc. But in Aus it really isn't that different to play away from home.
I would say that I'm in favour of just a total aggregate. From all the semi final games I've played with the away goal, I hardly see any advantage in playing at "home", especially considering most apart from the 1st grade aren't actually playing at home/away. In Europe I can see how playing at home provides an advantage, with much bigger crowds etc. But in Aus it really isn't that different to play away from home.
I agree it doesn't make sense for Newy lower grades who probably don't have a home game as the host is dictated by first grade usually.
MFKFC - in your hypothetical scenario, imagining away goals doesn't apply, the opposition needs to score at least 2 goals to stay in the game anyway. They'll need to score at least 3 to outright win it, or 2 to drag it to penalties. Either way, they need to attack. Away goals rule throws an entirely different element that I love.
plague
26-08-2015, 04:48 PM
I would disagree.
So many times a 2 legged affair is killed and remains dead as soon as one side gets the good advantage with away goals.
eg a team wins 1-0 at home and then jags an away goal early in return affair and it is all but over as for a contest.
The way the Football League does it I like more. Aggregate is all that matters and you don't see teams park bus cause they are away from home
So you're saying that a team who is in the box seat might protect their lead?
Bombshell.
NUGUNS
26-08-2015, 04:49 PM
I agree it doesn't make sense for Newy lower grades who probably don't have a home game as the host is dictated by first grade usually.
The lower grades over the past few years at Suburbs in ZL1 have played their away semi final at home due to finishing 3rd and 1st grade finishing 2nd.
So we got the advantage of the away goal rule in our own backyard. (It matter in the end anyway though)
Thomas477
26-08-2015, 04:59 PM
Junior numbers should have nothing to do with Seniors payment.
Junior Registration money shouldn't be going to the pockets of former hacks or a never was.
+1
De-Champ
26-08-2015, 05:02 PM
So you're saying that a team who is in the box seat might protect their lead?
Bombshell.
This is an unfair comment, it makes too much sense.
Maybe we should let MFKS decide what the rules should be, first goal wins, aggregate score, so if no team scores over the two legs, you play into the next week, or just keep playing week after week until some team scores.
monz6
26-08-2015, 05:42 PM
I always wonder every year why 19s and 22s NPL don't have extra time they just go straight to shootouts but an under 13 H great game has extra time...
q-money
26-08-2015, 05:52 PM
This is an unfair comment, it makes too much sense.
Maybe we should let MFKS decide what the rules should be, first goal wins, aggregate score, so if no team scores over the two legs, you play into the next week, or just keep playing week after week until some team scores.
commissioner MFKS needs to happen
Premy
26-08-2015, 05:52 PM
This is an unfair comment, it makes too much sense.
Maybe we should let MFKS decide what the rules should be, first goal wins, aggregate score, so if no team scores over the two legs, you play into the next week, or just keep playing week after week until some team scores.
Pfft universal rule, everyone knows last goal wins.
commissioner MFKS needs to happen
Now that he has driven Stubbins out of town he has time on his hands for this role.
namwob99
26-08-2015, 07:45 PM
I always wonder every year why 19s and 22s NPL don't have extra time they just go straight to shootouts but an under 13 H great game has extra time...
Same as Zone League turds and reggies. It's quite annoying.
NewyTy
26-08-2015, 08:40 PM
For those interested, Hamilton beat Magic 2-1 in the 19's. Fast paced, physical match that was great to watch.
mervan
26-08-2015, 09:07 PM
This is an unfair comment, it makes too much sense.
Maybe we should let MFKS decide what the rules should be, first goal wins, aggregate score, so if no team scores over the two legs, you play into the next week, or just keep playing week after week until some team scores.
What are you saying he will just make it up
The Magician
26-08-2015, 11:03 PM
Jets beat Hamilton 6-1 in U22's tonight
winner
26-08-2015, 11:07 PM
For those interested, Hamilton beat Magic 2-1 in the 19's. Fast paced, physical match that was great to watch.
Olympic given a lesson in 22s beaten 6-1 by the jets. 2-0 with 25 to go when the olympic captain got two of the most ill disciplined cards in the space of 5 minutes to leave his side with ten men . The jets could have scored 10. Both ridiculous fouls.
The Magician
26-08-2015, 11:34 PM
Olympic given a lesson in 22s beaten 6-1 by the jets. 2-0 with 25 to go when the olympic captain got two of the most ill disciplined cards in the space of 5 minutes to leave his side with ten men . The jets could have scored 10. Both ridiculous fouls.
Hope theirs (hamilton's) was an away goal
NewyTy
26-08-2015, 11:39 PM
Hope theirs (hamilton's) was an away goal
Nope, as winner said, Olympic weren't too far off but once their captain got sent it went out the window. Was my first time watching lower grade NPL this season and was throughouly impressed.
Goweston
27-08-2015, 05:15 PM
Finally the best pitch in the comp getting some recognition and hosting the newfm finals this weekend!
On another note, go the weston u19s!
winner
28-08-2015, 12:49 AM
I'm not who you think I am,just a confidant of the boy & a
friend of the family.I have never said it was wrong for Goody to leave,check previous posts.again I don't think you're right saying I've been pasting Goody either,just an analysis of the situation.Cheers.Let's leave it at that.
Have heard rumours in recent days of young birdy flying the coop [ pun intended ] from ccb to a rival npl club. As his confidant and family friend Tonester can you confirm or deny this
Tonester
28-08-2015, 07:00 AM
Have heard rumours in recent days of young birdy flying the coop [ pun intended ] from ccb to a rival npl club. As his confidant and family friend Tonester can you confirm or deny this
Was at his brothers band gig last Friday(Tropical Zombie,check em out!) & he might change the shade of blue next season or he may join his brother at Terrigal as they have just won promotion to Premier League . Also heard that he has had calls from 2 others otherwise can't tell you anything.
Now that he has driven Stubbins out of town he has time on his hands for this role.
Have new project keeping my attention these days.
Only one problem she supports the Gypos :rof:
lquiquer
28-08-2015, 10:39 AM
Have new project keeping my attention these days.
Only one problem she supports the Gypos :rof:
:wub:
:wub:
Not yet.
Though must admit though when I found out she supported Gypos I saw it as a challenge to prove to her Newy Boys are #1 :rof:
ForeverRed
28-08-2015, 11:30 AM
Sleeping with the enemy, Sacrilege
q-money
28-08-2015, 11:38 AM
unbelievable, and after all the shit the member gives pv4... :rof: :yap:
unbelievable, and after all the shit the member gives pv4... :rof: :yap:
Yeah I know.
That's why I had to take a self imposed exile for a week or two to come to terms with the gravity of the situation :rof:
lquiquer
28-08-2015, 12:04 PM
In a Box at Bluetongue next year m8?
q-money
28-08-2015, 12:23 PM
no doubt he'll be all walmsley out, giving wristies to your mr celeries etc
no doubt he'll be all walmsley out, giving wristies to your mr celeries etc
No wristies. No Shittoungue box
Will be front and centre for Derby Day as per normal.
Still hate the ****ing coast
Did tell her though if I see her wearing that shirt around me I will set fire to it whether she is in it or not.
Don't know if she fully understands I was not joking.
No wristies. No Shittoungue box
Will be front and centre for Derby Day as per normal.
Still hate the ****ing coast
Did tell her though if I see her wearing that shirt around me I will set fire to it whether she is in it or not.
Don't know if she fully understands I was not joking.
Glad its not a ladyboy anyway.
plague
28-08-2015, 06:00 PM
unbelievable, and after all the shit the member gives pv4... :rof: :yap:
Maybe the Member is dating pv4?
lquiquer
28-08-2015, 09:41 PM
Maybe the Member is dating pv4?
That's funny.. :roflz:.... Gold Plague...,
gavin
28-08-2015, 09:53 PM
Firstly any update on magic v edgeworth?
Secondly, am an NPL player in S.A moving to Newcastle in december. What are the best clubs in your opinion in Newcastle and why?
Drunken ranger
28-08-2015, 10:05 PM
Firstly any update on magic v edgeworth?
Secondly, am an NPL player in S.A moving to Newcastle in december. What are the best clubs in your opinion in Newcastle and why?
South Cardiff just ask forever red
onlooker
28-08-2015, 10:14 PM
Maitland could be an exciting place to be next season.
Premy
28-08-2015, 11:31 PM
Firstly any update on magic v edgeworth?
Secondly, am an NPL player in S.A moving to Newcastle in december. What are the best clubs in your opinion in Newcastle and why?
Any of the ones that can fit you in their PPS.
winner
29-08-2015, 07:47 AM
Grand Final Predictions
1st Magic v Olympic
22s Edgy v Jets
19s Weston v Olympic
ForeverRed
29-08-2015, 07:57 AM
South Cardiff just ask forever red
Correct
Firstly any update on magic v edgeworth?
Secondly, am an NPL player in S.A moving to Newcastle in december. What are the best clubs in your opinion in Newcastle and why?
Depends what position you play and what you are after in football
Some clubs may have pretty good player in your position and I would hate to recommend you go there where you may have a battle to get a spot where other club you might be better advised to go to etc
You want to play game with good blokes and enjoy the contest and not 110% care about winning everytime??
You want to play to win trophies as this matters 110% to you ??
Hard to say without knowing the answer to these questions
The Magician
29-08-2015, 01:42 PM
Finally the best pitch in the comp getting some recognition and hosting the newfm finals this weekend!
On another note, go the weston u19s!
On another note... Edgeworth knock Weston out of the U19's finals; 2-1.
Blueboy
29-08-2015, 03:42 PM
Have heard an Olympic player will miss the remaining games due too work commitments in WA
NewyTy
29-08-2015, 04:51 PM
HALF-TIME: Edgeworth 0-0 Broadmeadow. Both sides have had some chances but I feel as though Magic have had the better of those chances. Lots of long balls back and forth.
The General
29-08-2015, 06:15 PM
HALF-TIME: Edgeworth 0-0 Broadmeadow. Both sides have had some chances but I feel as though Magic have had the better of those chances. Lots of long balls back and forth.
0-0 FT
Edgy through.
NewyTy
29-08-2015, 06:17 PM
Highly questionable handball waved down in the last few minutes. Like to hear a neutral's opinion on it. Edgy very lucky not to concede one or two. Very good defensive performance from the Eagles throughout the match
ForeverRed
29-08-2015, 06:39 PM
Who got sent
Who got sent
Jonny Griff with about 20 to go for a second yellow
Edgy player also got a second yellow in injury time.
Pretty poor game.
Both teams with far too much aimless long passing.
Ref and linesman were pathetic. Both teams copped the rough end of it with their incompetence.
As for the pen. Ball to hand for mine. Miskick went up and hit Edgy players hand. Pretty clear as day visible to the linesman and ref.
I have seen them given but on 90 mins with a GF place on the line the home side ain't getting pinged
ForeverRed
29-08-2015, 07:09 PM
Cheers
sounds like a tense match.
I still dont think that 1st is rewarded enough for efforts over the year. 4th can still easily snatch a gf place over 2 legs.
prefer to see 4th have to beat everyone over 3 weeks to earn it
gavin
30-08-2015, 10:55 AM
258 senior games played in s.a and vpl.
Centre back/holding midfield.
Shere Khan
30-08-2015, 05:04 PM
Updates
The General
30-08-2015, 06:25 PM
Updates
2-2 after ET - Hamilton through
22's Jets 1-0
19's Magic 2-0
Next Week GF
1st grade - Edgeworth v Hamilton
22's - Edgeworth v Jets
19's - Magic v Edgeworth
Shere Khan
30-08-2015, 08:56 PM
Just like to put out there that one Zpl semi are on the same day that Npl GF are on. One game is on Sat one Sun. Wtf. I spoke to the Bero Pres and he can't understand it either.
Play both on Sat and get more people to the show piece????
ForeverRed
30-08-2015, 09:17 PM
Whose going to cook the sausages if the Suns are playing
Surely you are not expecting common sense from the decision makers? NEW FM Grand Final day today and an NPL Semi on at the same time.
Ker-Plunk
30-08-2015, 09:25 PM
mmmmm oh dear , guy in charge of northern now in charge of the jets . good luck newcastle
Shere Khan
30-08-2015, 09:29 PM
Yeah sorry my bad Im being sensible!
I know games clash but Npl standout one day by itself?
Or is Nnswf stretched to far or are they ever there?
BP Super Dynamos
30-08-2015, 09:40 PM
NNSWF don't control Zone Leagues, therefore they don't exist
Nou Camp
30-08-2015, 10:05 PM
Happens every year
Not sure why
Bremsstrahlung
30-08-2015, 10:53 PM
Whose going to cook the sausages if the Suns are playing
The daughters?
Lofty
30-08-2015, 10:54 PM
It's okay, the Suns play on the Saturday. Kebapi available Saturday at Connelly and Sunday at magic park :)
seldom
30-08-2015, 10:59 PM
It's okay, the Suns play on the Saturday. Kebapi available Saturday at Connelly and Sunday at magic park :)
Crisis over
Shere Khan
30-08-2015, 11:12 PM
It would be a crisis if I wanted a Kebapi which I know are awesome but I as a football supporter for years I would like to see the BIG GF.
To me me its not rocket science.
Jardelsimage
31-08-2015, 08:39 AM
so your telling me that the NPL GF is next Sunday??? since Southy didn't make it, I have know interest in it :lol:
seriously thou, this town is run by a bunch of gooses, Northern don't run the zone league, yes we know that but they should be able to organise the final game of local football in this town to be the NPL GF, week before should be 2hd GF, week before Zone GF's, minimal clashes.
All juniors should have been done and dusted, so you can build towards the final game, the pinnacle in the local league, the only choice to watch football you will have, is the NPL Grand Final....it might not change attendances to much, but not having a choice is shit, personally, i'll be at Pasadena watching the Tiggers play their semi in the ZPL.
Can they do it, will they do it, probably not, but that doesn't surprise me.......Northern are you listening:deadhorse:
ForeverRed
31-08-2015, 08:49 AM
All junior grand finals are also on this Saturday and Sunday
Jardelsimage
31-08-2015, 09:01 AM
All junior grand finals are also on this Saturday and Sunday
Yes your right, forgot I will be a Rutherford, before I go to Pasadena..... my WAA-G grade play Wallsend....
Lofty
31-08-2015, 09:50 AM
so your telling me that the NPL GF is next Sunday??? since Southy didn't make it, I have know interest in it :lol:
seriously thou, this town is run by a bunch of gooses, Northern don't run the zone league, yes we know that but they should be able to organise the final game of local football in this town to be the NPL GF, week before should be 2hd GF, week before Zone GF's, minimal clashes.
All juniors should have been done and dusted, so you can build towards the final game, the pinnacle in the local league, the only choice to watch football you will have, is the NPL Grand Final....it might not change attendances to much, but not having a choice is shit, personally, i'll be at Pasadena watching the Tiggers play their semi in the ZPL.
Can they do it, will they do it, probably not, but that doesn't surprise me.......Northern are you listening:deadhorse:
I don't think the scenario is that bad. You have NewFM GF weekend just passed, NPL this weekend coming and then ZPL the following weekend. To have the first 3 divisions on separate weekends is pretty good. It's not possible to have all games on different days because there are only 52 weeks in the year..
I don't think the scenario is that bad. You have NewFM GF weekend just passed, NPL this weekend coming and then ZPL the following weekend. To have the first 3 divisions on separate weekends is pretty good. It's not possible to have all games on different days because there are only 52 weeks in the year..
I think you find it would not be that hard to do and organise so games are not clashing with one another.
Not exactly rocket science. Make use of night time Friday nights etc
You put NPL semis on same day as New FM GF and straight away you are taking people away from the NEW FM GF day.
Jets are no better either.
Last year they put trial game V Nix on at Magic Park same day as ZPL GF. I got to ZPL GF and leave 25 mins through first grade.
Another year they put a trial on in Sydney same day as NBN GF.
Complete cluster **** and just once again highlights Northerns failings.
NRL and AFL are able to organise 8 games a weekend etc and they don't clash with same times. How hard can it be to get the powers at Speers Point to organise this. After all it really should be the pinnacle of local Football and they should be organising it so the people can take in as much as possible
Jardelsimage
31-08-2015, 10:50 AM
I don't think the scenario is that bad. You have NewFM GF weekend just passed, NPL this weekend coming and then ZPL the following weekend. To have the first 3 divisions on separate weekends is pretty good. It's not possible to have all games on different days because there are only 52 weeks in the year..
the last game still should be NPL GF, its not that hard is it.
Never said anything about different days, that would be near impossible, just different weekends, of course some semi's will clash but ZPL. 2HD then NBN doesn't get any better...
The Magician
31-08-2015, 10:58 AM
I think you find it would not be that hard to do and organise so games are not clashing with one another.
Not exactly rocket science. Make use of night time Friday nights etc
You put NPL semis on same day as New FM GF and straight away you are taking people away from the NEW FM GF day.
Jets are no better either.
Last year they put trial game V Nix on at Magic Park same day as ZPL GF. I got to ZPL GF and leave 25 mins through first grade.
Another year they put a trial on in Sydney same day as NBN GF.
Complete cluster **** and just once again highlights Northerns failings.
NRL and AFL are able to organise 8 games a weekend etc and they don't clash with same times. How hard can it be to get the powers at Speers Point to organise this. After all it really should be the pinnacle of local Football and they should be organising it so the people can take in as much as possible
Jets Pre-season Launch 26th September...
As for AFL they share some venues so its easier for them to schedule games at different times... 2-4 first grade AFL games might be played on No1 per weekend.
Football is the biggest participation sport in NNSW and Australia. Im sure the zones would love to push the seasons back ever further but we forget that here in Australia the sport that takes preference for all councils allocation of sporting fields particularly for junior use is cricket. How many junior fields have cricket pitches either between fields or on the field... it is even worse if its a turf pitch because the maintenance period comes forward even more... Our feds are doing the best they can, cricket is dead, councils should show preference to the majority instead of pandering to a lost ideal of cricket as the national sport of Australia.
Lofty
31-08-2015, 11:13 AM
You're having a laugh if you think they will use Speers Point for the grand final in the top divisions spread over different times. It's not a gala day for 10 year olds. Those facilities aren't designed to hold a crowd that are going to be with their mates getting rowdy sinking tinnies on the hill. Next thing you will want is viewers choice on fox sports!
Just let the NPL grand final be on it's own day and yeah maybe it would be better if it was the last grand final, but having ZPL last isn't too big of an issue - especially if the semis are on a different days.
You're having a laugh if you think they will use Speers Point for the grand final in the top divisions spread over different times. It's not a gala day for 10 year olds. Those facilities aren't designed to hold a crowd that are going to be with their mates getting rowdy sinking tinnies on the hill. Next thing you will want is viewers choice on fox sports!
Just let the NPL grand final be on it's own day and yeah maybe it would be better if it was the last grand final, but having ZPL last isn't too big of an issue - especially if the semis are on a different days.
No one said anything about holding GF's at Speers Point at the cluster **** that is that facility.
Don't know where you are getting that idea from.
Full agree Speers Point facility it is not suitable for much more than 200-300 people attending which obviously makes it useless for NPL New FM and even Zone Leagues.
Not saying we should be having an U10's gala day either. But more so a celebration of Newy Football for a couple of weeks.
The current set up is a ****ing joke.
Even last year Northern had it set up better but somehow have gone backwards this year
cobra23
31-08-2015, 01:02 PM
on another topic,
Has there been any rumoured player movements going on?? i have heard stuff all and at this end of the year there is normally a few to talk about..
Jardelsimage
31-08-2015, 02:01 PM
You're having a laugh if you think they will use Speers Point for the grand final in the top divisions spread over different times. It's not a gala day for 10 year olds. Those facilities aren't designed to hold a crowd that are going to be with their mates getting rowdy sinking tinnies on the hill. Next thing you will want is viewers choice on fox sports!
Just let the NPL grand final be on it's own day and yeah maybe it would be better if it was the last grand final, but having ZPL last isn't too big of an issue - especially if the semis are on a different days.
having ZPL last is the issue, I would love to go the NBN GF, but my ZPL side is playing the same day......:banghead:
Lofty
31-08-2015, 02:27 PM
having ZPL last is the issue, I would love to go the NBN GF, but my ZPL side is playing the same day......:banghead:
Yeah understand that would be ideal in a perfect world. Hopefully it changes in the future but it's probably seen as something trivial by NNSW.
Yeah I'm lucky that our game is on Saturday. Did you guys ask about changing days? Or do we need to be on different days?
winner
31-08-2015, 03:11 PM
Did anyone else see Edgeworth president Warren Mills standing on the hill yesterday wearing a jaffas scarf. What a knob. Couldn't imagine seeing Tull, Johnson, Foteff or Pappas wearing another clubs colours at an NPL semi
outsider
31-08-2015, 03:59 PM
Did anyone else see Edgeworth president Warren Mills standing on the hill yesterday wearing a jaffas scarf. What a knob. Couldn't imagine seeing Tull, Johnson, Foteff or Pappas wearing another clubs colours at an NPL semi
your second sentence said it all.
Lofty
31-08-2015, 04:51 PM
Did anyone else see Edgeworth president Warren Mills standing on the hill yesterday wearing a jaffas scarf. What a knob. Couldn't imagine seeing Tull, Johnson, Foteff or Pappas wearing another clubs colours at an NPL semi
Thank God there's only one Warren Mills.
Speedymetric
31-08-2015, 04:53 PM
Did anyone else see Edgeworth president Warren Mills standing on the hill yesterday wearing a jaffas scarf. What a knob. Couldn't imagine seeing Tull, Johnson, Foteff or Pappas wearing another clubs colours at an NPL semi
Pretty sure Mills isn't President of Edgeworth & when I saw him he was only wearing an Adidas top in Edgey colours with some smart but casual pants. He may have put a scarf on later but that's not surprising the game finished late & it was getting colder as the sun set.
q-money
31-08-2015, 05:31 PM
some smart but casual pants.
can we have more details on the pants please
Speedymetric
31-08-2015, 05:47 PM
can we have more details on the pants please
The pants could only be described as neat, conventional, yet relatively informal in style. I can honestly say they were the type of slacks you would never see Pappas, Tull etc or any other clubs Treasurer wearing.
q-money
31-08-2015, 05:56 PM
The pants could only be described as neat, conventional, yet relatively informal in style. I can honestly say they were the type of slacks you would never see Pappas, Tull etc or any other clubs Treasurer wearing.
:rof:
"slacks", says it all :rof:
Retro Jet
31-08-2015, 11:09 PM
Did anyone else see Edgeworth president Warren Mills standing on the hill yesterday wearing a jaffas scarf. What a knob. Couldn't imagine seeing Tull, Johnson, Foteff or Pappas wearing another clubs colours at an NPL semi
Best NPL :hijack: ever.
Pants...even Pucko has a song about them.
"You keep talkin' romance, but I'm just talkin' 'bout...PANTS!
The Acolyte
31-08-2015, 11:44 PM
Great concise description of Warren Mills apparel. Sounds like a smart dresser , he's certainly good the wood on the tracky dack, beany wearing slur slingers that aren't in the Grand Final. Did Olympic teach Tanch the words to their song?
winner
31-08-2015, 11:49 PM
Great concise description of Warren Mills apparel. Sounds like a smart dresser , he's certainly good the wood on the tracky dack, beany wearing slur slingers that aren't in the Grand Final. Did Olympic teach Tanch the words to their song?
I think bolch asked tanch if they were allowed to sing it after only having a draw
winner
31-08-2015, 11:54 PM
Didn't anyone else watch the bartv stream of the jaffas game. Apparently when Jamie Byrnes was replaced with around 20 minutes to go and was asked about his injury he was overheard saying" it's all good,it will be ok for the grand final next week". Going the crow a bit to early there i think Jamie
Speedymetric
01-09-2015, 11:56 AM
Didn't anyone else watch the bartv stream of the jaffas game. Apparently when Jamie Byrnes was replaced with around 20 minutes to go and was asked about his injury he was overheard saying" it's all good,it will be ok for the grand final next week". Going the crow a bit to early there i think Jamie
Byrnes spent more time rolling around feigning injury on Sunday than Warren Mills did pressing his slacks to get the pleats perfectly parallel for the big occasion.
magician
01-09-2015, 07:42 PM
on another topic,
Has there been any rumoured player movements going on?? i have heard stuff all and at this end of the year there is normally a few to talk about..
I over-heard a conversation at the game on Sunday that the swan brothers are heading back to Valentine.
I over-heard a conversation at the game on Sunday that the swan brothers are heading back to Valentine.
There was something in the paper today or yesterday that one is out of the GF as he is moving to Perth this week for a job
The General
02-09-2015, 08:30 AM
Jarryd Johnson to Broadmeadow. Interesting signing. I think he's well past his best but he may prove me wrong. Wonder where the rest of the Southy players will end up?
I not see the point of that
Magic need defenders and a quality DM
They are let down by their defence all season long
I not see the point of Johnson at Magic for both parties
Stanley
02-09-2015, 10:10 AM
NNSW Football should be demanding that this weekends GF be a stand alone game, after all they are the governing body with member zone answering to them, zone football finals on the same day deptrives who knows how many from attending the showpiece game of the year. Not to mention fathers day.
Stanley
02-09-2015, 10:21 AM
Jarryd Johnson to Broadmeadow. Interesting signing. I think he's well past his best but he may prove me wrong. Wonder where the rest of the Southy players will end up?
Jarryd Johnson is without a doubt a gifted footballer if he can produce to his ability he should be the stand out player of 2016, appears he didn't have the heart to play with my club in blue
mervan
02-09-2015, 10:39 AM
Jarryd Johnson to Broadmeadow. Interesting signing. I think he's well past his best but he may prove me wrong. Wonder where the rest of the Southy players will end up?
Paper said he was only 28.
Magic haven't been the same since Bennis finished up.
cobra23
02-09-2015, 10:23 PM
Paper said he was only 28.
Magic haven't been the same since Bennis finished up.
100% agree,
now johnson has signed big competition for spots in the mid field next year for finlayson, cassa ,peter haynes ,scott pettit , matt hoole , jonny griff , alex kantarovski , Korsa (korean kid) , callan lewis and now Jarryd Johnson ...
10 quality players for 4 spots... :banghead:
Ker-Plunk
03-09-2015, 01:49 PM
sounds like they need a coupla more strikers too , maybe some more coaches .can you pre purchase extra points to fit inside the pps ?
The Magician
03-09-2015, 01:55 PM
sounds like they need a coupla more strikers too , maybe some more coaches .can you pre purchase extra points to fit inside the pps ?
Plenty of room in PPS, this year they were 40 points short of the cap even with the players they brought in...
ForeverRed
03-09-2015, 02:01 PM
Because the PPS is a waste of time, anyone that gets near their limit are kidding themselves, the first year was fine but the changes they made render it pointless,( no pun intended)
stopper2
03-09-2015, 03:27 PM
Paper said he was only 28.
Magic haven't been the same since Bennis finished up.
I would say you are spot on with that observation about Bennis. He was the "heart beat" of Magic for many years and they have failed to replace him.
Didn't see the match but heard from a few people that Magic 19's played 2 players from their 22's squad (Nadfalusi and Marky) and even one from their 1st Grade squad (Barber) in the 2nd Leg semi final last Sunday. Yes, apparently all 3 are under 19 and I'm assuming it must be okay but in regards to "sportsmanship" it's pretty low that they feel they need to stack their 19's with players from higher grades who haven't played there all season just so they can qualify for the GF.
The players who had to make way would be pretty pissed off too, being involved all year and then being left out in a crucial game at the end.
Is it really worth going to this trouble just to win a piece of silverware in 19's???
The Magician
03-09-2015, 03:50 PM
I would say you are spot on with that observation about Bennis. He was the "heart beat" of Magic for many years and they have failed to replace him.
Didn't see the match but heard from a few people that Magic 19's played 2 players from their 22's squad (Nadfalusi and Marky) and even one from their 1st Grade squad (Barber) in the 2nd Leg semi final last Sunday. Yes, apparently all 3 are under 19 and I'm assuming it must be okay but in regards to "sportsmanship" it's pretty low that they feel they need to stack their 19's with players from higher grades who haven't played there all season just so they can qualify for the GF.
The players who had to make way would be pretty pissed off too, being involved all year and then being left out in a crucial game at the end.
Is it really worth going to this trouble just to win a piece of silverware in 19's???
Coaches requested back-ups due to injuries... U17's have been filling in during the year sometimes up to 5 starting over U19's who were out/ unfit... Players in question where asked if they would like to participate not told to do so... and were happy to oblige... U17's will return for the GF. FYI Max Markey did not play, was too sore from being chopped down numerous times in the previous match.
Everyone does it... i remember a U19's Olympic team a few years back in a catch up game at Magic Park that was stacked with 3 first graders and 3 resies players, that were "made" to play... obvious form their body language they didn't want to be there... U19's parents were furious and walked out then they found out their kids weren't getting stripped and were notified prior to arrival to the field... Magic U19's won 5-1...
"Sportsmanship" would have dictated the Edgeworth player who deliberately hand-balled in the box on the weekend stop play and confess to the referee...
ForeverRed
03-09-2015, 05:31 PM
Never a hand ball, cop it sweet
I would say you are spot on with that observation about Bennis. He was the "heart beat" of Magic for many years and they have failed to replace him.
Didn't see the match but heard from a few people that Magic 19's played 2 players from their 22's squad (Nadfalusi and Marky) and even one from their 1st Grade squad (Barber) in the 2nd Leg semi final last Sunday. Yes, apparently all 3 are under 19 and I'm assuming it must be okay but in regards to "sportsmanship" it's pretty low that they feel they need to stack their 19's with players from higher grades who haven't played there all season just so they can qualify for the GF.
The players who had to make way would be pretty pissed off too, being involved all year and then being left out in a crucial game at the end.
Is it really worth going to this trouble just to win a piece of silverware in 19's???
Yes.
hamburgler
03-09-2015, 06:22 PM
I would say you are spot on with that observation about Bennis. He was the "heart beat" of Magic for many years and they have failed to replace him.
Didn't see the match but heard from a few people that Magic 19's played 2 players from their 22's squad (Nadfalusi and Marky) and even one from their 1st Grade squad (Barber) in the 2nd Leg semi final last Sunday. Yes, apparently all 3 are under 19 and I'm assuming it must be okay but in regards to "sportsmanship" it's pretty low that they feel they need to stack their 19's with players from higher grades who haven't played there all season just so they can qualify for the GF.
The players who had to make way would be pretty pissed off too, being involved all year and then being left out in a crucial game at the end.
Is it really worth going to this trouble just to win a piece of silverware in 19's???
I was told 3 x 22s and a first grader. Plus one of the 22's has played first grade. It doesn't matter whether the players who played down were asked or made do it. It's crap, and you can only feel for those boys who had to make way for the ring-in's, especially when they have worked hard all year only to be shafted when it matters most. Disgraceful!
plague
03-09-2015, 07:05 PM
What time does first grade kick off on Sunday lads?
ForeverRed
03-09-2015, 07:23 PM
3pm
plague
03-09-2015, 07:41 PM
3pm
Cheers.
Imyourhero
03-09-2015, 10:19 PM
3 Southy blokes to Weston
Lee Ashton
Mitch Wallace
Ashley Balcomb
The Magician
03-09-2015, 10:24 PM
3 Southy blokes to Weston
Lee Ashton
Mitch Wallace
Ashley Balcomb
Are there any chickens left in the coup?
Goweston
03-09-2015, 10:30 PM
Go weston!
Darr to Azzurri
Keeper to Olympic
Newsfeed
03-09-2015, 10:32 PM
Darr to Azzurri
Keeper to Olympic
Where is swancott going?
Think Swancott is at Lambton? Young fella to be back up to Ireland
Newsfeed
03-09-2015, 10:35 PM
Think Swancott is at Lambton? Young fella to be back up to Ireland
Ireland could be the difference on sunday
Blueboy
04-09-2015, 10:12 AM
What's everyone's predictions for the weekend. Magic 2-1 in 19s, Edgeworth 3-1 in 22s, and Olympic 2-1 after extra time in firsts
Speedymetric
04-09-2015, 12:26 PM
Ireland could be the difference on sunday
I think Evans and Hammel will be the difference. The others pretty much cancel each other out but those two are quality and a touch above the rest giving the Eagles a slight edge.
winner
04-09-2015, 01:26 PM
I think Evans and Hammel will be the difference. The others pretty much cancel each other out but those two are quality and a touch above the rest giving the Eagles a slight edge.
Big call thinking Fogarty and Ireland cancel each other out. Did you not watch the first semi at magic. I think edgy will be too strong
Speedymetric
04-09-2015, 02:17 PM
Big call thinking Fogarty and Ireland cancel each other out. Did you not watch the first semi at magic. I think edgy will be too strong
I watched the first semi at Magic and agree Fogarty could have done better. However Ireland didn't impress me greatly last Sunday or in the GF two years ago when he leaked four.
Blueboy
04-09-2015, 02:49 PM
I watched the first semi at Magic and agree Fogarty could have done better. However Ireland didn't impress me greatly last Sunday or in the GF two years ago when he leaked four.
Wow, I'm sure everyone is entitled too a few poor games. Stand out keeper in this comp by a long way
Speedymetric
04-09-2015, 03:24 PM
Wow, I'm sure everyone is entitled too a few poor games. Stand out keeper in this comp by a long way
I agree everyone is entitled to a few poor games. I also concede that Ireland is a better keeper than Fogarty. But from what I have seen I don't believe he is head and shoulders above the rest and enough to win Hamilton the GF. From what I have seen Swancott is still the best keeper and Evans and Hammel have a touch more class than the rest who will play on Sunday. If those two play to their potential and the rest of the team play at a similar level to what they have all year Edgey will win and it wouldn't matter who was between the sticks for Olympic. Having said that anything can happen on the day and if Fogarty or Edgey as a whole are slightly off it will be a different story.
On another note I was just driving past Mattara Dry Cleaners and saw Warren Mills walking in. Looks like he could be ramping up the fashion stakes a bit for the big occasion.
ForeverRed
04-09-2015, 04:01 PM
Olympics older heads I think will get them through, I'm concerned the occasion may get to some of edgeworths younger ones, I could be wrong though
Ker-Plunk
04-09-2015, 08:01 PM
my predictions , toilets will be spotless , bumper crowd , one send off , fight start from edgy bench , toe poke will win the game and northern and magic will walk away with a wheelbarrow full of money .
ForeverRed
04-09-2015, 10:14 PM
Not sure about the toilets
Jardelsimage
05-09-2015, 09:40 AM
can anyone confirm this one, Greg Asquith to coach Olympic 22's ????????
Bremsstrahlung
05-09-2015, 09:44 AM
can anyone confirm this one, Greg Asquith to coach Olympic 22's ????????
I'd say that's likely with Pullin going there.
Weston have done well to get Balcombe, quality player he is.
Bremsstrahlung
05-09-2015, 10:42 AM
I don't think he's got what it takes with a first grade squad at the moment.
Will probably do decent things with Olympic 22s if true. But that's the crux, it's easy to do well with good players. It's all about getting that little bit more.
Part of me thinks he tried to get southy playing a bit too much. They really needed to be pragmatic and doing what was necessary to get a point from games, and occassionally try and go for a win.
Piggo was especially good at getting his squad to do the basics and grind out results.
ForeverRed
05-09-2015, 10:44 AM
Agreed about Balcomb - decent player.
I spoke with Forever Red in person a while ago, not long after the season and he had told me that Southy were looking at getting in a new coach anyway so Asquith had made the decision easier.. Can't see why him leaving was a bad thing anyway. Hardly see that as stuffing them around.
Not sure where this come from but far from true, if people want to write on here at least be brave enough to tell the truth
ForeverRed
05-09-2015, 10:49 AM
I don't think he's got what it takes with a first grade squad at the moment.
Will probably do decent things with Olympic 22s if true. But that's the crux, it's easy to do well with good players. It's all about getting that little bit more.
Part of me thinks he tried to get southy playing a bit too much. They really needed to be pragmatic and doing what was necessary to get a point from games, and occassionally try and go for a win.
Piggo was especially good at getting his squad to do the basics and grind out results.
When your best 6 players are out for 8 weeks it makes it extremely difficult, those around our club know the reasons we struggled and that reason is the huge injury toll we had at our club through no one else's fault,
Please do not comment on what you think happened as it's not true, every one tried there hardest and best but it wasn't to be, full stop
Bremsstrahlung
05-09-2015, 11:04 AM
When your best 6 players are out for 8 weeks it makes it extremely difficult, those around our club know the reasons we struggled and that reason is the huge injury toll we had at our club through no one else's fault,
Please do not comment on what you think happened as it's not true, every one tried there hardest and best but it wasn't to be, full stop
Nobody is saying they were not unlucky throughout the season. There were some big injuries and really good players were unable to play, and things probably would have been a bit different had the injuries not occurred.
I'm entitled to my opinion. Which part in particular do you believe to be not true?
The part where I said he's not up to first grade? I think he needs more experience with a 22s team in NPL being around the senior squad more before making the step up. What was it? 3 years with southy 19s, 3/4 season with magic 23s and back to southy 19s then first grade? Im all for southy giving him a shot, he's a great guy.
The part where I said he would do wel with a good squad? His success with 19s at southy and Magic 22s was largely due to the calibre of player. For his philosophy to work, he needs technical fit players. But anyway. I think he would be capable of getting some good results with a quality experienced squad.
Jardelsimage
05-09-2015, 11:28 AM
the rape and pillage has begun, good luck Mr Packer hope you can keep some of your players.....cant say much more might upset someone.......
but then again.......
furns
05-09-2015, 01:32 PM
I have removed some posts regarding Greg Asquith and I will warn people again about posting bollocks as fact on a publicly accessible forum.
Jardelsimage - I am looking at you.
Jardelsimage
05-09-2015, 05:53 PM
I have removed some posts regarding Greg Asquith and I will warn people again about posting bollocks as fact on a publicly accessible forum.
Jardelsimage - I am looking at you.
So Furns what exactly have I said that is bollocks, just a bit confused, yes this a public forum, but isn't that the point, newcastlefootballforum.
at least I didn't call anyone blister dick...
The General
05-09-2015, 05:57 PM
I have removed some posts regarding Greg Asquith and I will warn people again about posting bollocks as fact on a publicly accessible forum.
Jardelsimage - I am looking at you.
Anyway... Back to the football.
Tips for tomorrow -
Under 19's - magic
Under 22's - jets
1st grade - Olympic
I'm going for no GF wins for edgy.
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