Daily Australian News Thread 2016

[Jeterpool]

I love when sarcasm is missed on the Internet

It's hard to know what's really going on with this joint at the moment.

[plague]

It's hard to know what's really going on with this joint at the moment.

You don't know the half of it my brother.....

[borat]

Yeah but I heard Perth are still planning on spending up big on their foreigners as well

So they add Chris Herd Rhys Williams and Judas who are all Soccerroos to a side full of salary cap

They release 5 players


Some **** do the maths


But to me it ain't adding up


The FFA salary cap audit should be interesting as I would imagine the Smurfs and Tards be blowing up deluxe asking questions as to how they can put together a roster like this and stay under the cap

Zads was on mega money here and continued at Perth. His retirement freed up alot of cap space.

Most of Perth big signings have been matched with big departures. Just people don't notice.

I wouldn't assuming Herd, Taggs and Williams are on big salaries. Herd's career has gone to the shitter and Williams and Taggs have been perma-crocked the last 2 years. Can't discount that these are 3 WA born players who have gone through 2 very rough years and just want to return home to try and recapture some form.

[RAM]

Zads was on mega money here and continued at Perth. His retirement freed up alot of cap space.

Most of Perth big signings have been matched with big departures. Just people don't notice.

I wouldn't assuming Herd, Taggs and Williams are on big salaries. Herd's career has gone to the shitter and Williams and Taggs have been perma-crocked the last 2 years. Can't discount that these are 3 WA born players who have gone through 2 very rough years and just want to return home to try and recapture some form.

Tend to agree.

Shame for Rhys Williams, he was a very good Socceroo for a few years.

[RAM]

Interesting to see whether the Jets actually make a play or let him go to a rival Aussie side with ease like they did with Judas going to Perth

I'd take Brillante back for sure. There cap room and he's a solid performer with versatility.

[q-money]

It's hard to know what's really going on with this joint at the moment.

the foz is now self-aware, the scorching hot takes have pushed us to fozmageddon

https://67.media.tumblr.com/fc0268b9b6e1140b7787b2f4c45eb480/tumblr_n3g9m01JG81qcga5ro1_500.gif

[Jeterpool]

Yeah, it's clearly the off-season.

I hope the FFA announce a new owner soon to distract everyone for a few days.

[plague]

I hope the FFA announce a new owner soon to distract everyone for a few days.

Distract?

geez I'm already getting supplies into the bomb shelter. this place is gonna be lit.

[hawk]

the foz is now self-aware, the scorching hot takes have pushed us to fozmageddon



Yep, happens every off season to stave off boredom keeps peeps on the toes :rof::rof:

[Jeterpool]

So Miller is off overseas, in particular the Scandanavian countries, with the Jets set to announce a visa player signing shortly.



Newcastle Jets: Coach Scott Miller heads to Europe on recruitment drive

JAMES GARDINER
May 10, 2016, 11:59 a.m.

COACH Scott Miller is close to signing a European-based attacker and expects to have all bar one or two places on the Jets roster filled when the squad assembles for pre-season training on June 27.

“We anticipate an announcement next week with regards to a player from Europe in the front third,” Miller said.

Talks are continuing with a number of Australian-players, but Miller dismissed speculation the club had made a play for released Wanderers winger Romeo Castelen, who he believed was headed to Melbourne City.

They have also been linked to James Holland.

Miller leaves this week for Europe on a recruitment mission but will hold off on filling the final two visa positions until the ownership situation is finalised and he has been given a budget.

“I don’t want to shop before I know my budget,” he said. “I am very patient with that. I will be spending a couple of weeks in Scandinavia and visiting Bromby and Copenhagen. Our contacts there are good. I like that area of the world and the quality of the players they produce. The players commence pre-season on June 27. Hopefully we will have all of our squad, maybe bar two visa spots, in and looking to prepare.”

The Jets, who finished 11 points out of the six in eighth place, have 15 players contracted for next season and Miller said, depending on the budget, they would most likely run with a squad of 21.

“If I can get a higher quality player in we will run with a squad of 21 or 22,” he said.

One of the additions is likely to be a keeper, with Mark Birighitti almost certain to head overseas.

Ben Kennedy is expected to get first shot at reclaiming the No.1 spot, but Liam Reddy could also be an option after the 34-year-old was this week released by Western Sydney Wanderers.

Former Jets midfielder Josh Brillante is understood to considering a return to the A-League and has been in talks with Sydney FC and Western Sydney.


The 23-year-old fringe Socceroo left the Jets for Italian Serie A club Fiorentina at the end of the 2013-14 season and has been on loan at Serie B club Como.


The Jets had their final training session for the season on Monday. The will break for six weeks but have been given off-season programs to follow.

“We have set benchmarks and expectations for next season with the view to the opposition and where we need to be at,” Miller said.

“Furthermore the medical and fitness staff have put together an off-season program that is quite comprehensive. I think they will be working fairly hard.”


http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3898578/miller-heads-to-europe-on-recruitment-drive/?cs=306

So, has Nordstrand put Miller onto someone he's played with before?

I also wonder whether this is like Phil Stubbin's ill-fated European trip last year before he parted ways with the club?

A few names linked in the article too, but there's no surprise there with the players linked. If you read this forum you could have come up with those names. I find it interesting that we are going to run with a squad of 21. I assume that's not including the 3 youth players because we have to have a minimum squad of 23, don't we?

[MFKS]

If Millertime is getting the arse when our new Chinese Overlord takes the reigns it be rather stupid of the FFA to be funding let alone encouraging the trip

That being said it is the FFA so logic goes out the window

That being said I would hazard a guess that Millertime and Lee have been talking and know what going on a bit more than us plebs

Also if Lee wants Millertime out be pretty stupid of him to allow him to go make signings right now when the ones signing off on them are the people he negotiating with and he could easily tell them to back off on that front until the deal is done

[Jeterpool]

If Millertime is getting the arse when our new Chinese Overlord takes the reigns it be rather stupid of the FFA to be funding let alone encouraging the trip

That being said it is the FFA so logic goes out the window

That being said I would hazard a guess that Millertime and Lee have been talking and know what going on a bit more than us plebs

Also if Lee wants Millertime out be pretty stupid of him to allow him to go make signings right now when the ones signing off on them are the people he negotiating with and he could easily tell them to back off on that front until the deal is done

This is where my head is at too. The FFA, you would assume, aren't going to fund a trip overseas if Miller isn't going to be around next year.

[Wilso8948]

That being said I would hazard a guess that Millertime and Lee have been talking and know what going on a bit more than us plebs

This is a good post

[borat]

So Miller is off overseas, in particular the Scandanavian countries, with the Jets set to announce a visa player signing shortly.



http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3898578/miller-heads-to-europe-on-recruitment-drive/?cs=306

So, has Nordstrand put Miller onto someone he's played with before?

I also wonder whether this is like Phil Stubbin's ill-fated European trip last year before he parted ways with the club?

A few names linked in the article too, but there's no surprise there with the players linked. If you read this forum you could have come up with those names. I find it interesting that we are going to run with a squad of 21. I assume that's not including the 3 youth players because we have to have a minimum squad of 23, don't we?
Min squad is 20, max is 23.

Within that squad you are required to have at least 3 Players who 23 or younger as of 31 December in the competition year, ie, 31 Dec 2016 for the 16/17 season.

We already have Clut, Jackson, Cowburn, Pavicevic and cooper

[Jeterpool]

Min squad is 20, max is 23.

Within that squad you are required to have at least 3 Players who 23 or younger as of 31 December in the competition year, ie, 31 Dec 2016 for the 16/17 season.

We already have Clut, Jackson, Cowburn, Pavicevic and cooper

Thankyou

[MFKS]

Min squad is 20, max is 23.

Within that squad you are required to have at least 3 Players who 23 or younger as of 31 December in the competition year, ie, 31 Dec 2016 for the 16/17 season.

We already have Clut, Jackson, Cowburn, Pavicevic and cooper
Not to mention we are also obliged to have 3 blokes on Yoof contracts.
Judging by the farce the Jets Yoof team is I struggle to see where they coming from unless we recruit in from outside.

Can see Cameron Joice getting 1 spot and that is down to him coming from the AIS rather than performance but the other two???

FMD as no one is deserving

[Fairgo]

Min squad is 20, max is 23.

Within that squad you are required to have at least 3 Players who 23 or younger as of 31 December in the competition year, ie, 31 Dec 2016 for the 16/17 season.

We already have Clut, Jackson, Cowburn, Pavicevic and cooper

http://www.a-league.com.au/about/salary-cap-system/19l4z69nq786n13oyz89nari1m
Unless the rules have changed this year it states 3 players required under the age of 20 not 23 which I believe at this stage we have nil.

[turbojetfireV8]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3902483/ffa-ready-to-make-salaries-for-every-a-league-player-public-next-season/?cs=2439

We won't have to argue how much they are on then I guess - though I wonder how many will be understated by leaving additional payments FFA don't know about out...

[Jeterpool]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3902483/ffa-ready-to-make-salaries-for-every-a-league-player-public-next-season/?cs=2439

We won't have to argue how much they are on then I guess - though I wonder how many will be understated by leaving additional payments FFA don't know about out...

They can't do that. Doing so would kill a good 60% of the speculation on this forum.

Won't somebody please think of the forum?

https://www.frinkiac.com/img/S08E18/297563.jpg

[MFKS]

They can't do that. Doing so would kill a good 60% of the speculation on this forum.

Won't somebody please think of the forum?

https://www.frinkiac.com/img/S08E18/297563.jpg

I see great potential here not loss of discussion matter

We can then start argueing about how we were stupid enough to sign so and so for 140k and he ain't half the player club x signed so and so for.

Biggest loser for this will be the players when the fans know someone is on 140k a year and playing like a buseted arse and start getting on their back

[borat]

http://www.a-league.com.au/about/salary-cap-system/19l4z69nq786n13oyz89nari1m
Unless the rules have changed this year it states 3 players required under the age of 20 not 23 which I believe at this stage we have nil.

No you are right. Don't know what I was thinking with 23.

That being the case, the 6 remaining players to be recruited will be

3 x Visa players
3 x u20 players (one which must be a goalkeeper)

[WolfMan]

I see great potential here not loss of discussion matter

We can then start argueing about how we were stupid enough to sign so and so for 140k and he ain't half the player club x signed so and so for.

Biggest loser for this will be the players when the fans know someone is on 140k a year and playing like a buseted arse and start getting on their back

140? Try close to triple that

[plague]

Except knowing someone's wage isn't anyone's business.
These people are idiots.

[stopper2]

So this is FFA's answer to being more "transparent", disclosing A League contracted player's wages.
Hope the players with the PFA kick up a stink about this, really what right have FFA to publicly disclose what players are earning?

[belchardo]

agreed. how does knowing their wage increase transparency? surely the only person concerned about transparency should be the FFA (in this regard).

and if they want to do it, why not publish the aggregated wages of the squad as a single amount per club? that way no individual player is identified.

I don't normally get on the privacy wagon, but this just seems like a gross invasion of privacy.

I can see a stronger argument for publishing the salaries of the FFA senior execs.

[stopper2]

agreed. how does knowing their wage increase transparency? surely the only person concerned about transparency should be the FFA (in this regard).

and if they want to do it, why not publish the aggregated wages of the squad as a single amount per club? that way no individual player is identified.

I don't normally get on the privacy wagon, but this just seems like a gross invasion of privacy.

I can see a stronger argument for publishing the salaries of the FFA senior execs.

This

[MFKS]

agreed. how does knowing their wage increase transparency? surely the only person concerned about transparency should be the FFA (in this regard).

and if they want to do it, why not publish the aggregated wages of the squad as a single amount per club? that way no individual player is identified.

I don't normally get on the privacy wagon, but this just seems like a gross invasion of privacy.

I can see a stronger argument for publishing the salaries of the FFA senior execs.
****ing great idea.

Publish the FFA top brass wages too.

Brilliant

[stopper2]

I see great potential here not loss of discussion matter

We can then start argueing about how we were stupid enough to sign so and so for 140k and he ain't half the player club x signed so and so for.

Biggest loser for this will be the players when the fans know someone is on 140k a year and playing like a buseted arse and start getting on their back

Can see the logic behind this but then again when Heskey was on $700k plus as reported in the media, I don't recall fans "getting on his back"...sure he didn't play like a "busted arse" but he sure as hell wasn't worth $700k.
Fans are fickle and play favourites, can just see an "unpopular" player being targeted or made a scapegoat if he is reportedly on a decent wage and underperforming. Disclose what each squad has spent and Marquees (which usually are anyway) but not each individual.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Can see the logic behind this but then again when Heskey was on $700k plus as reported in the media, I don't recall fans "getting on his back"...sure he didn't play like a "busted arse" but he sure as hell wasn't worth $700k.
Fans are fickle and play favourites, can just see an "unpopular" player being targeted or made a scapegoat if he is reportedly on a decent wage and underperforming. Disclose what each squad has spent and Marquees (which usually are anyway) but not each individual.

This whole thing was created to expose BK and what he earns while being on the bench. In that regard, I'm all for it. BK out.

:lulzturtle:

[The Dunster]

Except knowing someone's wage isn't anyone's business.
These people are idiots.

The Wage Data for all MLS players is available to the public. No reason why the A-league shouldn't make it's wages data available as well.

[Jeterpool]

The Wage Data for all MLS players is available to the public. No reason why the A-league shouldn't make it's wages data available as well.

But that appears to be more from an American driven desire to have that information available. The NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL do it so it's something that is accepted in that country's sporting competitions.

The FFA reason for pursuing this (a number of salary cap scandals in Australian Sport) seems convenient to me. If player contracts are submitted to the FFA anyway, how will publicising the wages of the teams decrease the likelihood that a club won't cheat the salary cap? Would doing this have assisted auditors to identify or even prevent the Perth Glory salary cap breach in the season before last?

I struggle to accept this. There's something else at play.

[plague]

The Wage Data for all MLS players is available to the public. No reason why the A-league shouldn't make it's wages data available as well.

There is no reason to do it either.
It solves nothing.

[la bazzle]

FFA just want the fans to do their jobs. With all the nerdz out there who will do da maths and shit it will save the hassle

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Its so we can get it out in the open that Perf are WAY over the cap next year.

[boz-monaut]

I look forward to telling our rubbish blokes that they are on a shit salary and don't deserve it, also that their career will be over by the time they're 35 and they'll be down at Centrelink

also, it's hilarious when you find out how much other teams pay for their shitcunce — remember how much we all laughed when Zdonkey was revealed to be on $200k?

[baldrick]

Same reason everyone was all over social media telling the world that Hodor died on Game of Thrones today.

They all just wanna be first.

Awesome, thanks for that.

[redwah]

Awesome, thanks for that.

Aren't you on holidays. ....

[MFKS]

But that appears to be more from an American driven desire to have that information available. The NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL do it so it's something that is accepted in that country's sporting competitions.

The FFA reason for pursuing this (a number of salary cap scandals in Australian Sport) seems convenient to me. If player contracts are submitted to the FFA anyway, how will publicising the wages of the teams decrease the likelihood that a club won't cheat the salary cap? Would doing this have assisted auditors to identify or even prevent the Perth Glory salary cap breach in the season before last?

I struggle to accept this. There's something else at play.

It just a degree of transparency and getting on the front foot to show the public they have their house in order.

The current situation leaves fans scratching their heads as they don't know.

By giving the info to the public it gives the fans cinfidence all is above board and then puts the onus squarely on the clubs to comply.

Look at the shitfight at Parramatta in the NRL. The club and it's management are culpable. Just as the Storm were when they had their problem.

By putting it squarely out in the public domain there is no ifs or buts about it if the club cheats.

At the moment it is a grey area as many other clubs are suspected of doing it and getting away with it.

So there is an element of sympathy to the club and blame to the governing body for not uncovering other issues.

This transparency way basically washes the FFAs hands of it and allows them to wash their hands of any responsibility for it and forces the blame 100% on the club.

It also means the clubs are going to have to legitimately try to rort it. So when they do the book can be thrown at them

[stopper2]

This whole thing was created to expose BK and what he earns while being on the bench. In that regard, I'm all for it. BK out.

:lulzturtle:

See this sort of a childish attitude of a response is why I'm against it....targeting and singling out individual players.
Miller prefered Birraz over BK this season, so what. Towards the end of the season Vukovic (probably the highest paid keeper in the HAL) fell out of favour and was on the bench.
Players lose form whether it's injury related or personal issues. So we get on their backs because we think they aren't worthy of their salary?

[plague]

Awesome, thanks for that.

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--qnvTRPpG--/nylmij6cmu3n88w7mt0m.gif

[monz6]

The Wage Data for all MLS players is available to the public. No reason why the A-league shouldn't make it's wages data available as well.

Can you tell us your full name and your yearly wage?

[plague]

Look at the shitfight at Parramatta in the NRL. The club and it's management are culpable. Just as the Storm were when they had their problem.

By putting it squarely out in the public domain there is no ifs or buts about it if the club cheats.


i mean ill go to the wall for you but seriously this is some next level silly shit.

you realise the governing body has a copy of all contracts for players. the rorts are going on outside the contracts lodged.
so 'the public' (in their ever growing need to feel included) will see the exact same contracts.
so if there is cheating no one at FFA HQ, or you out there with your casio calculator is gonna pick up it with the info on the lodged contract.


what players get is none of the fans business. you want that info, how bout we post their sexual orientation too? or if they are having an affair with someone?
what else you wanna know about someone that aint got shit to do with you? maybe all players need to do a Q and A with the 'fans' before they sign just to make sure we are ok with them coming to wear our precious shirt.

fans are the ****ing worst people.
get over yourselves.

[monz6]

i mean ill go to the wall for you but seriously this is some next level silly shit.

you realise the governing body has a copy of all contracts for players. the rorts are going on outside the contracts lodged.
so 'the public' (in their ever growing need to feel included) will see the exact same contracts.
so if there is cheating no one at FFA HQ, or you out there with your casio calculator is gonna pick up it with the info on the lodged contract.


what players get is none of the fans business. you want that info, how bout we post their sexual orientation too? or if they are having an affair with someone?
what else you wanna know about someone that aint got shit to do with you? maybe all players need to do a Q and A with the 'fans' before they sign just to make sure we are ok with them coming to wear our precious shirt.

fans are the ****ing worst people.
get over yourselves.

I'd just typed this all word for word and was about to click post and then you beat me to it

[foti68]

i mean ill go to the wall for you but seriously this is some next level silly shit.

you realise the governing body has a copy of all contracts for players. the rorts are going on outside the contracts lodged.
so 'the public' (in their ever growing need to feel included) will see the exact same contracts.
so if there is cheating no one at FFA HQ, or you out there with your casio calculator is gonna pick up it with the info on the lodged contract.


what players get is none of the fans business. you want that info, how bout we post their sexual orientation too? or if they are having an affair with someone?
what else you wanna know about someone that aint got shit to do with you? maybe all players need to do a Q and A with the 'fans' before they sign just to make sure we are ok with them coming to wear our precious shirt.

fans are the ****ing worst people.
get over yourselves.

Ditto

[stopper2]

^^^^
I know I'm going off a tangent here but it is indirectly related to the issue in the way sportsmen are increasingly being exposed by the powers that be.
Same as cameras in change rooms, do we need to see what is going on before the game or at half-time in the dressing sheds?
The change rooms should be a sporsman's sanctuary, pretty sure in Europe and South America they don't allow this sort of shite.

Also, in this day and age of equality why aren't cameras allowed in female sporting teams change rooms?

[GazFish35]

What if the clubs lie about how they're paying?

[plague]

What if the clubs lie about how they're paying?

What, they'll lie to the FFA but post the real figures 'for the fans'?

All of the aforementioned breaches of salary caps across those other codes were all brought to light because of whistle blowers.
Not through the governance of the relevant association and certainly not from a bunch of spotty teenagers with their Mulder and Scully detective kit.

[MFKS]

i mean ill go to the wall for you but seriously this is some next level silly shit.

you realise the governing body has a copy of all contracts for players. the rorts are going on outside the contracts lodged.
so 'the public' (in their ever growing need to feel included) will see the exact same contracts.
so if there is cheating no one at FFA HQ, or you out there with your casio calculator is gonna pick up it with the info on the lodged contract.


what players get is none of the fans business. you want that info, how bout we post their sexual orientation too? or if they are having an affair with someone?
what else you wanna know about someone that aint got shit to do with you? maybe all players need to do a Q and A with the 'fans' before they sign just to make sure we are ok with them coming to wear our precious shirt.

fans are the ****ing worst people.
get over yourselves.
So as for your issues with intrusion into players private life's well this to me is a separate issue.

What is the crux of this issue is the governing body the FFA are trying to be proactive and show their comp is above board with the salary cap

Compared to drugby league they are actually not walking around with their head in the sand.

Now Rugby League have obviously had Bulldogs Storm and Eels involved in massive salary cap issues.

They are still walking around clueless trying to deal with it.

FFA have only had the Glory fiasco to deal with

The Eels issue has sounding warning bells at FFA HQ and kudos to them they are prepared to act


Yeah you right the dodgy shit with paper bags twin contracts etc is the bit that will still go on. But by exposing the player payments publically eliminates any claims of the club they are not responsible for shonky shit as if a Storm Glory Eels or Bulldogs situation was to happen again then the public and FFA will know full well they were attempting to cheat and got caught fair and square

This is all it is.

Front foot initiative to be transparent publically by the FFA to cover the game from needless scandal.
It is basically showing the world what is going on and everything is in order

If scandal comes then the club responsible has the blame directed squarely at them

Take the Eels situation the publicity has damaged the integrity of the NRL in the eyes of the fans media and sponsors.
Everyone associated with it pays the price. Not just the Eels players fans and Management.
Everyone

The FFA are on the front foot here and need to be applauded for their bold action

As for the players wages being exposed publicly. Well once the thing is done once it won't be an ongoing issue anyway.

The US athletes don't give a **** after years of it going on.
As for the Aussie players after the PFA exploiting the game for years with excessive unsustainable wages I will have no sympathy for them losing this battle.

Mind you they FFA won't be getting away with this idea easily. The PFA will make one of the best sing and dances about it you will ever see when the FFA try publically listing player wages

[plague]

So as for your issues with intrusion into players private life's well this to me is a separate issue.

What is the crux of this issue is the governing body the FFA are trying to be proactive and show their comp is above board with the salary cap

Compared to drugby league they are actually not walking around with their head in the sand.

Now Rugby League have obviously had Bulldogs Storm and Eels involved in massive salary cap issues.

They are still walking around clueless trying to deal with it.

FFA have only had the Glory fiasco to deal with

The Eels issue has sounding warning bells at FFA HQ and kudos to them they are prepared to act


Yeah you right the dodgy shit with paper bags twin contracts etc is the bit that will still go on. But by exposing the player payments publically eliminates any claims of the club they are not responsible for shonky shit as if a Storm Glory Eels or Bulldogs situation was to happen again then the public and FFA will know full well they were attempting to cheat and got caught fair and square

This is all it is.

Front foot initiative to be transparent publically by the FFA to cover the game from needless scandal.
It is basically showing the world what is going on and everything is in order

If scandal comes then the club responsible has the blame directed squarely at them

Take the Eels situation the publicity has damaged the integrity of the NRL in the eyes of the fans media and sponsors.
Everyone associated with it pays the price. Not just the Eels players fans and Management.
Everyone

The FFA are on the front foot here and need to be applauded for their bold action

As for the players wages being exposed publicly. Well once the thing is done once it won't be an ongoing issue anyway.

The US athletes don't give a **** after years of it going on.
As for the Aussie players after the PFA exploiting the game for years with excessive unsustainable wages I will have no sympathy for them losing this battle.

Mind you they FFA won't be getting away with this idea easily. The PFA will make one of the best sing and dances about it you will ever see when the FFA try publically listing player wages

this is the dumbest post you have ever written.

no, serious. i know you're thinking "nah I've said dumber stuff than this", but you're wrong.

you really are.

stop being like this.

stop posting.

stop everything.

[De-Champ]

I don't know what all the fuss is about.
It is just a Public relations exercise by the FFA.
They are "trying to be transparent" without doing anything, after all its the clubs that are doing all the work here. What exactly is the FFA doing??
Those that cheat the system, dare I say it, are a lot smarter than MFKS, or as someone said (I think Plague- someone with a detector kit) publishing or not publishing are not going to stop the cheating/cheaters.
MLS publish salaries- they do so as a marketing tool - not as a cheating/catching tool.
There are as all things in life advantages and disadvantages of publishing the wages of players. I would like to listen to both of the before making my mind up.

[MFKS]

I thought we were all aware no one is smarter than me,??

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[Roundball Enthusiast]

Free entry into F3 derby games for all Jets members next season, literally one step away from being taken over and converted into unemployed scum.. ffs.

[GazFish35]

Free entry into F3 derby games for all Jets members next season, literally one step away from being taken over and converted into unemployed scum.. ffs.

how is not a good thing?

will increase travelling support to Gosford games.

[Jeterpool]

how is not a good thing?

will increase travelling support to Gosford games.

Agree, it's a good thing. Certainly a move to encourage more families to head down. IF we can get more people there it will commence the process of rebuilding the perception of the derby to the heights it was years ago.

Being facetious, I could say there is access to our 13th match as a member next year.

[MFKS]

Free entry into F3 derby games for all Jets members next season, literally one step away from being taken over and converted into unemployed scum.. ffs.

So is this thing reciprocal??

Gypos get free entry here. We get free entry there??

If so great idea.

Be even better if away fans travelling interstate were given free entry too.

If you can make the effort to get on a plane to a game then getting free entry be some compensation for your efforts

[Jeterpool]

A-League website has an article in which Miller says we will announce the signing of a midfielder in the next 3-4 days

[Wilso8948]

Also Zullo signed with Sydney. A decent Aussie LB option we missed out on in my opinion

[The Camel]

A-League website has an article in which Miller says we will announce the signing of a midfielder in the next 3-4 days

Hoping it is Jimmy Holland

[Jeterpool]

Hoping it is Jimmy Holland

Didn't really get that sense. Will.copy over soon

[PC14]

So is this thing reciprocal??

That's the way it reads.

What a great idea. It goes to show that no matter the rivalry, working together only betters the game for everybody concerned.

[Jeterpool]

Hoping it is Jimmy Holland

Here's a quote from the article


Miller revealed the club was close to signing a promising midfielder, with a deal likely to happen “in the next three or four days”.
“He’s very versatile and he’s not a past player, he’s the right age in terms of his career and I feel he will be a great addition,” he said.
“We’ve still got about seven spots to fill, including three under-20 players and a couple of [visa player] positions open so the scope is there to add some real quality.”
The Jets wrapped up their 2015/16 campaign with a final training session last Monday and will return for pre-season on June 27.


Doesn't look like Jimmy.

http://www.a-league.com.au/article/midfielder-poised-to-join-newcastle-jets-as-scott-miller-heads-to-europe/1egv6drfhcqby1if01hz5x5upg

And the rest


riday, 13 May 2016 -
John Greco @Grecs7
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Newcastle Jets boss Scott Miller will visit EPL clubs Tottenham, Crystal Palace and Bournemouth as part of an extensive European scouting mission during the Hyundai A-League off-season.
Miller departs on Tuesday for a six-week journey in which he will visit clubs in England and then around Scandinavia, with the goal of not only looking for playing talent but also broadening the Jets’ network abroad.
“Whilst I’m in London I’m going to go and visit Alan Pardew at Crystal Palace and then go to the FA Cup final. I’m going to Bournemouth to see Eddie Howe and Tottenham as well,” Miller told www.a-league.com.au.
“I’ll then be going to meet Stale Solbakken at Copenhagen for six days, then onto Brondby as well.
“It’s more a watch-and-learn approach than identifying players. It’s about understanding different principles, different philosophies and understanding team identity and culture.
“Looking at team dynamic and different coaching styles…and more importantly trusting people and building relationships whilst I’m over there so we can utilise their network.
“We don’t have a massive scouting network in Australia whereas these big clubs do. They have loads of chief scouts throughout the world and I want to build a relationship with them so we can utilise their services.”

Miller sees Scandinavia as a great untapped area for A-League clubs to explore to discover talented players.
During his time at English club Fulham, Miller worked with a number of players from that region and was left suitably impressed, while Dane Morten Nordstrand was a star in the second half of last season with the Jets.
“The standard of Scandinavia and their footballing education is very good. What you have there is the second or third tier rating in the worldwide football scheme,” the Jets boss said.
“But you have clubs there playing in the Champions League and Europa League year in, year out. The exposure is actually very good, the quality is higher than Australia based on how early they start playing and educating their young footballers.
“And more importantly their wages tend to correlate greater [to Australia] more than an England or a Spain. It’s a real advantage for us.
“I’m looking for a younger dynamic player for the Jets and with that maybe loans out of Scandinavia could be a benefit. Our experience here [at the Jets] was good and at Fulham it was even better…they are very driven and got a great work ethic.”

[Wilso8948]

It'll be someone underwhelming like Lustica

[leftrightout]

It'll be someone underwhelming like Lustica

Unfortunately he is everything Miller described!

[MFKS]

That's the way it reads.

What a great idea. It goes to show that no matter the rivalry, working together only betters the game for everybody concerned.

It's actually a pretty good idea.

Interesting to see if it expands with Smurfs Wankers etc

[Jeterpool]

It's actually a pretty good idea.

Interesting to see if it expands with Smurfs Wankers etc

Mariners have tweeted that it applies to their full season ticket holders too. They can come to both games up here next year fro free.

The way to encourage the expansion of the idea is to show up in Gosford and the Mariners fans do the same (yeah I do mean show up in Gosford) and also come to Newcastle and show it can be a success.

[Grimario]

Unfortunately he is everything Miller described!

Is 25 the age of someone you'd describe as promising? I'd say if they haven't delivered by then then they're not promising, they're at career ceiling.

[furns]

Full press release regarding F3Derby ticketing for season members


Jets & Mariners join forces to revitalise the #F3Derby


The Newcastle Jets and Central Coast Mariners have today announced a ground-breaking membership initiative which is designed to reinvigorate the local rivalry over the next two seasons.

In an exciting partnership, Jets and Mariners full-season ticketed members will be able to attend away fixtures in the F3 Derby free of charge.

The agreement, which runs over the 2016-17 and 2017-18 Hyundai A-League seasons, enable supporters of both clubs to attend three away matches over the two-year arrangement.

Interim Newcastle Jets CEO David Eland believes the initiative will give the fixture a significant boost and help to revive some of the passion and competitiveness of the early F3 Derbies.

“This initiative adds significant value to the clubs’ membership packages,” Eland said.

“I’m sure the opportunity to attend the Away F3 Derbies free of charge will be well received by the members of both clubs.”

The Jets had the better of their local rivals in the most recent campaign, recording two victories in the final third of the season – both in Gosford – with the two teams played out a thrilling 1-1 draw at Hunter Stadium in Round six.

While the Sydney and Melbourne Derbies have taken the spotlight in the Hyundai A-League in recent seasons – and rightly so – the F3 derby remains the competition’s only original local rivalry.

And with memories of the 36,354 fans on hand to watch Central Coast tackle the Jets in the 2008 Grand Final, Mariners CEO Shaun Mielekamp hopes the deal can help make the clash a marquee fixture once again.

“The clubs are committed to restoring the F3 Derbies as the most anticipated clashes of the season,” Mielekamp said.

“This initiative will boost attendance and reinvigorate the passionate rivalry which exists between the Mariners and the Jets.”

[RAM]

Is 25 the age of someone you'd describe as promising? I'd say if they haven't delivered by then then they're not promising, they're at career ceiling.

Vardy.

[Jeterpool]

Is 25 the age of someone you'd describe as promising? I'd say if they haven't delivered by then then they're not promising, they're at career ceiling.


Vardy.

Buffon?

[The Dunster]

Is 25 the age of someone you'd describe as promising? I'd say if they haven't delivered by then then they're not promising, they're at career ceiling.

Ogenovski

[RAM]

Buffon?

Goalkeepers are different.

Buffon was already pretty good at Parma.

[OmeletteDuFromage]

I think when you read past player you assumed he meant hes not a former player, I think hes just saying hes not a has-been/older player.

[borat]

It'll be someone underwhelming like Lustica

Miller said in the Herald that this player would be a Visa player. So not Lustica

[borat]

I think when you read past player you assumed he meant hes not a former player, I think hes just saying hes not a has-been/older player.

I think what he is saying is don't expect a well known player or anything remotely like it.

[borat]

Reciprocal agreement is interesting. The cynic in me says these are 2 clubs who are moving home games away. I expect season ticket prices to remain the same with the reciprocal game/s been seen as making up the difference

[tomo]

Here's a quote from the article



Doesn't look like Jimmy.

http://www.a-league.com.au/article/midfielder-poised-to-join-newcastle-jets-as-scott-miller-heads-to-europe/1egv6drfhcqby1if01hz5x5upg

And the rest

At Bournemouth.... Looking at Federici?

[tomo]

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/perth-glory-chase-epl-star

Perf are chasing Carrick!

[GazFish35]

It's actually a pretty good idea.

Interesting to see if it expands with Smurfs Wankers etc


no real benefit for to us letting 5000 WSW fans up here for nothing - we get more $$$ for the matchday ticket than we would letting them come to us as part of a season ticket.
same with Smurfs Id reckon.

would love to see us working towards an option of buying a "nsw away" pass and not just the add-on this this announcement offers all members.


we have bigger travelling numbers to Gosford than they do so it benefits us as members more than it hurts the club's sales in match tickets to coasties.
an investment in growing the derby - good to see

[MFKS]

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no real benefit for to us letting 5000 WSW fans up here for nothing - we get more $$$ for the matchday ticket than we would letting them come to us as part of a season ticket.
same with Smurfs Id reckon.

would love to see us working towards an option of buying a "nsw away" pass and not just the add-on this this announcement offers all members.


we have bigger travelling numbers to Gosford than they do so it benefits us as members more than it hurts the club's sales in match tickets to coasties.
an investment in growing the derby - good to see
As someone who goes to away games in NSW I think it ****ing great if it is expanded to WSW and Sydney as well. Who gives a **** if they bring more here than we take there.

Make for much better away days in Sydney if we can take 1000 or so to Sydney like we do at Gosford rather than 200-300 like we do lately

[GazFish35]

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As someone who goes to away games in NSW I think it ****ing great if it is expanded to WSW and Sydney as well. Who gives a **** if they bring more here than we take there.

Make for much better away days in Sydney if we can take 1000 or so to Sydney like we do at Gosford rather than 200-300 like we do lately

Agreed, but money talks.

[turbojetfireV8]

Fornaroli a bit too pricey for Shitney: http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3906861/sydney-fc-fail-in-bid-to-land-bruno-fornaroli-as-talks-with-melbourne-city-stall/?cs=2439
I guess Melb could afford it through their owners, but still a lot for him, Berisha would cost a lot less ;)

[MFKS]

Agreed, but money talks.

Any chance the Members committee can raise this with the club??

IE To adequately promote the F3 Derby in Shitoungue so that a much much larger amount of Jets supporters are at the game rather than the 500-1000 diehards who be going anyway ??

Maybe the club can look into promoting the shit out of it in Social media over the PA on game day in the conventional press etc

Maybe look at putting on a train or a fleet of buses where the plebs pay etc

To me this if done right is a great opportunity to invigorate our away support not just in Gosford but may also encourage many more to get off their arses and go to Smurfs and Wankers away also

Be great if we can fill up 6-8 bays of Shittounge rather than 2

Maybe the club could even use the upcoming Membership drive to lock people in ??

[GazFish35]

It came from sub committee originally.


Promoting the shit out of it is a great idea.
Will raise it.

[hawk]

Maybe look at putting on a train

ICF! ICF!

tbh any away supporter going interstate should get free entry considering most paid an airfair to get there

[The Dunster]

Fornaroli a bit too pricey for Shitney: http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3906861/sydney-fc-fail-in-bid-to-land-bruno-fornaroli-as-talks-with-melbourne-city-stall/?cs=2439
I guess Melb could afford it through their owners, but still a lot for him, Berisha would cost a lot less ;)

Fornaroli has a year to go on his contract and he's negotiating with his employer about getting more money or a chance to go elsewhere ?

He's a ****ing disgrace and no wonder clubs / employers bitch about their employees with this sort of shit happening all too often.

What is the point of even having a contract these days ?

[foti68]

Fornaroli has a year to go on his contract and he's negotiating with his employer about getting more money or a chance to go elsewhere ?

He's a ****ing disgrace and no wonder clubs / employers bitch about their employees with this sort of shit happening all too often.

What is the point of even having a contract these days ?

The bloke is 28 years old you cant blame him for trying to maximize his potential. If city decide to sell him im sure they will try to maximize what they get for him.

[MFKS]

Fornaroli has a year to go on his contract and he's negotiating with his employer about getting more money or a chance to go elsewhere ?

He's a ****ing disgrace and no wonder clubs / employers bitch about their employees with this sort of shit happening all too often.

What is the point of even having a contract these days ?

The bloke has come in carved it up and performed on the park. Why the **** shouldn't be be able to put the club in a position to give him more coin??

He can easily on the back of his form get a gig elsewhere so why shouldn't he be getting compensated better to stay.??

No different than any other footballer on the planet performing and getting a pay rise accordingly

[halo se7en]

Would he take a pay cut for the second year of his contract if he had a dismal season? Of course not.

[turbojetfireV8]

I didn't think Shitney could negotiate with him unless he was off contract as I thought they would not be allowed to pay a transfer fee if he was still on contract - you sure he's still on contract???

[MFKS]

I didn't think Shitney could negotiate with him unless he was off contract as I thought they would not be allowed to pay a transfer fee if he was still on contract - you sure he's still on contract???

This is Sydney FC we are talking about.

You honestly think rules exist for them??

If Sydney FC are found to be breaking a rule the FFA change of bend the rules to fit the Smurfs in


Where the **** you think that Olyroo Marquee shit come from when they signed Disco Stu??

[turbojetfireV8]

This is Sydney FC we are talking about.

You honestly think rules exist for them??

If Sydney FC are found to be breaking a rule the FFA change of bend the rules to fit the Smurfs in


Where the **** you think that Olyroo Marquee shit come from when they signed Disco Stu??

so under what rule can they steal him without paying a transfer fee if he's under contract, you saying Lowy Jnr has yet to come up with it??? that would be a classic :D

[skullboy]

so under what rule can they steal him without paying a transfer fee if he's under contract, you saying Lowy Jnr has yet to come up with it??? that would be a classic :D

Surely no A-league club would be stupid enough to release a player who is under contract to another A-league club without financial compensation. Apart from the obvious huge benefit of being able to transfer the shortfall in salary cap to the next year.

Surely.

[Wilso8948]

Surely no A-league club would be stupid enough to release a player who is under contract to another A-league club without financial compensation. Apart from the obvious huge benefit of being able to transfer the shortfall in salary cap to the next year.

Surely.
I see what you did there..

[turbojetfireV8]

Surely no A-league club would be stupid enough to release a player who is under contract to another A-league club without financial compensation. Apart from the obvious huge benefit of being able to transfer the shortfall in salary cap to the next year.

Surely.

Carney aint no Fornaroli though...

[skullboy]

I see what you did there..

We can laugh about it now....

[Wilso8948]

Birraz makes the socceroos squad for upcoming games against Greece

[Wilso8948]

Also replaces Langerak in the squad to take on England

[Frodo]

Perf have signed a left back. Let's get Warren!! ROFL.http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/05/18/perth-glory-swoop-attacking-defender-mills

Perth Glory's squad revamp continued with the signing of 26 year-old English left-back Joseph Mills on a two-year deal from League One outfit Oldham Athletic while goalkeeper Jerrad Tyson has left the A-League club.

Mills is a product of Southampton's famed academy where he trained and lived with Wales star Gareth Bale and Arsenal's Theo Walcott. The one-time England youth international made his debut for the Saints senior team at just 18 in the Championship in 2008.

Since then, Mills has amassed nearly 180 appearances in England's second and third-tier competitions for the likes of S****horpe United, Doncaster Rovers, Reading, Burnley, and Shrewsbury Town.

“I know that it is a tough league, but a very technical game, which is one of the reasons why it attracted me to it," Mills said.

“I've enjoyed playing in England so far and had some very successful moments, this was just an opportunity that is something I couldn't turn down.

"It’s a great club that wants to accomplish things, and I want to be a part of that."

Mills is the club's fourth signing for next season and is due to arrive in Perth next month ahead of the pre-season campaign.

Glory coach Kenny Lowe, who is on a tour of Spain and England meeting with players and agents, wase excited by what Mills brings to the teams.

"He’s a technical player, who likes to get on the ball and is an excellent defender” Lowe said.

“Although the Championship and other divisions are known to be tough leagues, I think the attacking nature of the A-League will suit him."

Mills will unite with his older brother Jonathan, who has been living in Western Australia for the past five years.

“My brother and his wife and son have lived in Perth, so he has always told me about the city and how it's a great place to live," Mills said.

“I don't know any of the current players, but have played against a few of them in England and have run into Andy Keogh a few times over summer while on holiday.”

Meantime, Tyson leaves Glory after two FFA Cup appearances last year.

Oh and Tyson Fury left as well.

[Frodo]

Perf have signed a left back. Let's get Warren!! ROFL.http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/05/18/perth-glory-swoop-attacking-defender-mills


Oh and Tyson Fury left as well.

Jerrad Tyson has gone back to the Wanderers.

[Beeen]

As rbb capo or?

[Frodo]

A-League: Jets in talks with promising Wanderers defender Daniel Alessi JAMES GARDINER
May 23, 2016, 3:52 p.m.

NEWCASTLE Jets are close to finalising a deal with promising Western Sydney Wanderers defender Daniel Alessi.

The Newcastle Herald understands that the 18-year-old has been earmarked for one of three spots designated for players under-20.

Home-grown striker Cameron Joice, who returned from the Australian Institute of Sport at the end of last year, is also in contention for a place on the A-League roster following the release of Brandon Lundy and Josh Barresi, who has joined Victorian NPL club Bulleen.

Alessi, a centreback or right fullback, has six A-League appearances and is captain of Wanderers’ youth team which sits second, a point behind Sydney FC, in division two of the NSW National Premier League.

A Young Socceroo, Alessi made his A-League debut at age 16 in a derby against Sydney FC in January, 2014.

Meanwhile, former Jets midfielder Ryan Kitto has joined champions Adelaide.

So Alessi comes in to offer cover in CB/RB.

Joice must have been told he will have a chance of training with the first teamers over preseason to earn a contract.

Kitto off to Adelaide as speculated.

[BP Super Dynamos]

Sydney FC today released their current squad list. They've let go of Necevski, Bouzanis, Anderson, Woodcock, Tratt, Stambolziev, Mullen and Naumoff.
Should we be interested in Woodcock or Naumoff? The rest are dross

[sammydog]

Id pass on the lot of them.

[Tommyjet]

Sydney FC today released their current squad list. They've let go of Necevski, Bouzanis, Anderson, Woodcock, Tratt, Stambolziev, Mullen and Naumoff.
Should we be interested in Woodcock or Naumoff? The rest are dross

I agree with naumoff and woodcock, especially the latter because of what we need. Depends on what squad size we go with tho

[Frodo]

Sydney FC today released their current squad list. They've let go of Necevski, Bouzanis, Anderson, Woodcock, Tratt, Stambolziev, Mullen and Naumoff.
Should we be interested in Woodcock or Naumoff? The rest are dross

Personally i wouldn't mind having a look at Satmbolziev, i think he deserved more minutes than he got there last year. The only reason Hoole got minutes was because he was the only player in that team with pace, at least Stambolziev has some balance to his game. Not just get the ball and run quickly (hoping that you kept the ball when you finally open your eyes 20m from where you started). I'll accept any hate about my opinion but i think he would at least be better than Pav & Brennan and wouldn't demand much coin. Just keeping our options open.

[Jeterpool]

Sydney FC today released their current squad list. They've let go of Necevski, Bouzanis, Anderson, Woodcock, Tratt, Stambolziev, Mullen and Naumoff.
Should we be interested in Woodcock or Naumoff? The rest are dross

An article on FoxSports I read on this yesterday also hints at additional changes, if their release can be agreed


With Jacques Faty, Mickael Tavares and Ali Abbas already released it leaves Sydney with 15 players contracted for next season, but some of those are likely to exit pending further talks over their contracts. The futures of striker Shane Smeltz and winger Andrew Hoole at Sydney remain uncertain, while negotiations with captain Alex Brosque and striker Matt Simon - both off contract - will continue.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/teams/sydney-fc/sydney-fc-to-radically-overhaul-squad-after-asian-champions-league-defeat-and-aleague-failure/news-story/2f9963b88b537d281c3e8b20431e6d63

[borat]

SMH reporting Hoole is going to be shown the door with Adelaide his next home.

We don't have the squad spaces to sign any of these players without spending less on our Visa players. No thanks

[The Camel]

SMH reporting Hoole is going to be shown the door with Adelaide his next home.

We don't have the squad spaces to sign any of these players without spending less on our Visa players. No thanks

Interesting that Hoole is being driven out 5 months after he refused to come back here as part of a Carney deal. Would have probably been offered a longer term deal here being local. Do not really want him back though, absolutely no end product, he is worse than Alidovic was in that regard

[lil_masi]

Interesting that Hoole is being driven out 5 months after he refused to come back here as part of a Carney deal. Would have probably been offered a longer term deal here being local. Do not really want him back though, absolutely no end product, he is worse than Alidovic was in that regard

Agree. My opinion of him has gone down. Id take Naumoff before Hoole

[hawk]

Interesting that Hoole is being driven out 5 months after he refused to come back here as part of a Carney deal. Would have probably been offered a longer term deal here being local. Do not really want him back though, absolutely no end product, he is worse than Alidovic was in that regard

it was best for his future remember bahahahaha

[skullboy]

Id pass on the lot of them.

I agree. They are all dross.

[The Camel]

I agree. They are all dross.

I would consider Woodcock as a LB option as there are **** all of them around, still young and can develop.

Naumoff I would take if we were able to offload Pav or Brennan as he is an upgrade on both of them but we do not need anymore cheap squad fillers. I would prefer to pay decent coin (whatever we have) on players for those forward wide roles.

[MFKS]

Going to Smurfs after being at Newy just kills people's careers

Disco Stu
Weak Ankles
Nicky Carle
Adam Griffiths
Hoole
Devon head


Let that be a lesson to the next potential traitor

[Jeterpool]

Going to Smurfs after being at Newy just kills people's careers

Disco Stu
Weak Ankles
Nicky Carle
Adam Griffiths
Hoole
Devon head


Let that be a lesson to the next potential traitor

Ali Abbas is about the only one who went on and did well there.

[hawk]

Going to Smurfs after being at Newy just kills people's careers

Disco Stu
Weak Ankles
Nicky Carle
Adam Griffiths
Hoole
Devon head
Let that be a lesson to the next potential traitor

https://media.giphy.com/media/tBb19fgUbbUVCNji0iA/giphy.gif

[borat]

Interesting that Hoole is being driven out 5 months after he refused to come back here as part of a Carney deal. Would have probably been offered a longer term deal here being local. Do not really want him back though, absolutely no end product, he is worse than Alidovic was in that regard

Have a read of Arnold's comments on the younger players in his squad. Talk about chucking them under the bus. Makes anything negative Stubbins/GVE/Miller has ever said about players seem tame.

Arnold is talking like he either wants out of SFC or is cracking badly.

[MFKS]

Have a read of Arnold's comments on the younger players in his squad. Talk about chucking them under the bus. Makes anything negative Stubbins/GVE/Miller has ever said about players seem tame.

Arnold is talking like he either wants out of SFC or is cracking badly.
The bloke moans and moans with the best of them

He is cracking up ?? I not think so.

He just speaking honest that as manager of Smurfs etc he needs results now.

He can't build a team with kids.


When you look at it Smurfs Wankers Victree do **** all for yoof development in this country

[Bon]

it was best for his future remember bahahahaha

You are loving this, aren't you hawk? haha

[Jeterpool]

Mark Bridge departs WSW and goes to a Changrai United in Thailand.

[borat]

The bloke moans and moans with the best of them

He is cracking up ?? I not think so.

He just speaking honest that as manager of Smurfs etc he needs results now.

He can't build a team with kids.


When you look at it Smurfs Wankers Victree do **** all for yoof development in this country
It's reasonable to think that....but to say it to the press? Any young player now will turn away from SFC.

Certainly Adelaide didn't too badly with the likes of Mauk, Kamau, Mells etc

[MFKS]

Mark Bridge departs WSW and goes to a Changrai United in Thailand.

Sure it not Chiang Mai

They are in the Thai top flight

[Jeterpool]

Sure it not Chiang Mai

They are in the Thai top flight

They're reporting Changrai...

[BP Super Dynamos]

Chiangrai United are in the TPL. If Bridge can handle the heat and humidity he should do well

[skullboy]

It's reasonable to think that....but to say it to the press? Any young player now will turn away from SFC.

Certainly Adelaide didn't too badly with the likes of Mauk, Kamau, Mells etc

Arnold is a hopeless joke. Everything that goes wrong is always someone else's fault - referees, opposition coaches, the media... Now it is young players.

He needs to have a long hard look in the mirror.

[hawk]

Arnold is a hopeless joke. Everything that goes wrong is always someone else's fault - referees, opposition coaches, the media... Now it is young players.

He needs to have a long hard look in the mirror.

Arny is an eternal twat. There's no changing that now

[MFKS]

Chiangrai United are in the TPL. If Bridge can handle the heat and humidity he should do well

Why do people seem to think LoS is a war zone weather-wise??

It ain't that ****ing bad.


It 30 odd degrees everyday

I was in Chiang Rai in February 31-32C everyday.

Night time I was in jumpers

I get off in Sydney and it 38C

It much hotter here than it was my entire time there

Anyway I give you an update on the weather the next couple of weeks. I am on my way tomorrow

5 5 5

[BP Super Dynamos]

I watched Glass v United 2 weeks ago. 8pm kickoff and I was dripping with sweat. Easily 33*C and massive humidity. No drinks breaks, yet these softies playing HAL want a rest in Perth

[Jeterpool]

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/ffa-slap-bakries-ultimatum#:M8HsvflneoYvEA

I wonder whether Brisbane's troubles will accelerate the announcement of a Jets deal, simply for the perception of the FFA "propping up 2 teams at once"

[Couscous]

Anyway I give you an update on the weather the next couple of weeks. I am on my way tomorrow

Thank you, Member.

I hope it's in the boat-floating thread, not the gear-grinding one.

[belchardo]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/31/brisbane-roar-owners-given-more-time-by-ffa-to-allay-financial-concerns

Bakries given to june 6 to get their cash sorted.

[Jeterpool]

Dave Carney copped a lot of flack from fans after he left, but fair credit where it's due here.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3940754/david-carney-returns-to-newcastle/?cs=305

[StannyCFCJET]

Dave Carney copped a lot of flack from fans after he left, but fair credit where it's due here.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3940754/david-carney-returns-to-newcastle/?cs=305

Cant stand the bloke but this is top class from Carney fair play to him

[belchardo]

A-League to trial video assistant referees in matches as part of FIFA experiment

The A-League will be one of the first leagues in world football to trial video assistant referees in matches. Key points:



VARs will initially assess match-changing incidents without communicating with ref
Live experiments not expected to begin until beginning of 2017.
A-League, Germany's Bundesliga and MLS among leagues to begin VARs experiment


A-League organisers, as well as leagues in Brazil, Germany, the Netherlands, Portugal and United States, will begin preparations for "offline" experiments with video assistant referees (VARs) before eventual live trials.

The initial offline experiments will see VARs assess video replays and make calls on match-changing incidents, but without any communication with the on-field referee.

Sanctioned by FIFA, the initial tests in the A-League and other participating leagues will be followed by a final test at the FIFA Club World Cup Japan 2016, before live trials begin.

The initial trials will have no impact on the game itself, until FIFA's International Football Association Board (IFAB) moves into the experiment into its live phase.

Live experiments will only begin once participating leagues have had time to prepare, which is not expected until the beginnong of 2017.

"The IFAB believes the best way to answer the question of whether the use of VARs will improve the game is to test it in different regions, so we are delighted to already have competitions across four confederations sign up," said IFAB secretary Lukas Brud.

"The organisers of these competitions can now begin installing and testing video replay facilities as well as training match officials and technical staff in line with the protocol and in consultation with the IFAB and FIFA's Football Technology Innovation Department."

Germany's Bundesliga, USA's Major League Soccer and Portugal's Primeira Liga are among the high-profile leagues to be taking part in the experiment.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-03/a-league-to-trial-video-referees/7473598

interesting and intriguing. seems like a sensible way to introduce it as well.

[hawk]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-03/a-league-to-trial-video-referees/7473598

interesting and intriguing. seems like a sensible way to introduce it as well.

game changing incidents? checking offsides when the ball goes into the goal, fair enough. Trying to adjudicate on pen calls will be too messy.

the death of old school football crowd will be livid

[Frodo]

Not a fan of this, bad calls are a part of the game. This won't stop bad calls, it just highlights them. Ask thugby league how that's going for them?

[StannyCFCJET]

Not a fan of this, bad calls are a part of the game. This won't stop bad calls, it just highlights them. Ask thugby league how that's going for them?

Agree as a fan of league the video ref and the new bunker system are FFFFING USELESS. All these new camera angels and whatnot and they still make they wrong decision

[Jetmaster]

Football games (like most sports) are often defined by mistakes - by referees, coaches and shock, players.

Bring in a rule where players get hooked if they make a mistake. Why should refs always carry the can?

[Bremsstrahlung]

I'm all for a NFL esque challenge system.
Give them an extra sub, or leave it the same, if they challenge a play/call/decision and get it wrong, they forfeit their challenge.
Would be interesting to see what they apply it to. If a ref calls offside, the play stops, if it's a wrong call, the affected team wouldnt get a chance to play out the rest of the play. Would we see a more lenient view/decision making process regarding offsides? Harsher penalty calls?
I can see this getting very messy when they start challenging penalties.

Or take control off of the teams and leave it up to the 4th official.
Not really sure how they will implement it. Any more info on how?

[Wilso8948]

Just leave it the way it is. There's a reason football is played across the globe and survived for so long. I cannot stand rule changes.

[borat]

I'm all for a NFL esque challenge system.
Give them an extra sub, or leave it the same, if they challenge a play/call/decision and get it wrong, they forfeit their challenge.
Would be interesting to see what they apply it to. If a ref calls offside, the play stops, if it's a wrong call, the affected team wouldnt get a chance to play out the rest of the play. Would we see a more lenient view/decision making process regarding offsides? Harsher penalty calls?
I can see this getting very messy when they start challenging penalties.

Or take control off of the teams and leave it up to the 4th official.
Not really sure how they will implement it. Any more info on how?

I agree with this. The problem with what is proposed is that it is a fine line between what is a big play worthy of review and what is not. Challenge Review system puts the onus back on the players to only appeal for what is a genuine mistake rather than appealing for the sake of it.

Right now we lambast the refs for every mistake they make in the comfort of our lounge rooms and slow motion replays. Challenge system makes the players accountable as it puts refereeing mistakes in context if the players don't beleive enough to challenge.

Challenge also limits the number of stoppages for this which to me is the biggest problem for any review system

[plague]

until of course the same people moaning about not having a referral system then moan about how many wrong decisions don't get referred.

[plague]

Although having said that I wish it was around in the Brisbane/Perth GF a few years back.

The experiment would have ended that day and stamped never to return.

[Jeterpool]

Just leave it the way it is. There's a reason football is played across the globe and survived for so long. I cannot stand rule changes.

Agree. League started tampering with the rules and they haven't recovered. The more complexity you bring in leaves more to interpretation and more chances for error to.occur.

Football is fine the way it is.

[StannyCFCJET]

Agree. League started tampering with the rules and they haven't recovered. The more complexity you bring in leaves more to interpretation and more chances for error to.occur.

Football is fine the way it is.

All football needs is for referees bosses to tell their referees ok every game if you call something a foul early on then its a foul the rest of the game full stop. Sick of one team hacking players with nothing happening

[WolfMan]

Agree with those who say human error has always been part of the game. No matter how they try and implement it, replays will halt the progress of matches, however slightly

[Thomas477]

Just leave it the way it is. There's a reason football is played across the globe and survived for so long. I cannot stand rule changes.

Wait until you see the changes for next season!

[weston]

Stop showing replays.

99% of the problem gone right there.

Seriously though, leave the game that way it is.

[tomo]

Just get better standard referee's and leave the game as is

[MFKS]

Agree. League started tampering with the rules and they haven't recovered. The more complexity you bring in leaves more to interpretation and more chances for error to.occur.

Football is fine the way it is.
There is one big positive for the Video Ref in the NRL.

No matter how good or bad it works it gets people talking about the game.

The publicity the game gets out of every mistake is immense.


Just look at how decisions in football when not black or white but shades of grey get debate.

Look at the Berisha V Miller challenge in the GF a few years back. Many say pen many say dive

Video technology there is useless. It is an interpretation decision for the ref.
He either says contact sufficient for a penalty or contact occurred but insufficient for a penalty.

You will never get agreement on that one with a video ref

[tomo]

There is one big positive for the Video Ref in the NRL.

No matter how good or bad it works it gets people talking about the game.

The publicity the game gets out of every mistake is immense.


Just look at how decisions in football when not black or white but shades of grey get debate.

Look at the Berisha V Miller challenge in the GF a few years back. Many say pen many say dive

Video technology there is useless. It is an interpretation decision for the ref.
He either says contact sufficient for a penalty or contact occurred but insufficient for a penalty.

You will never get agreement on that one with a video ref

What kind of drugs are you on?
Berisha completely missed the ball and dived. Video ref there would've been spot on and ruled a dive, and a yellow card...

[Grimario]

What kind of drugs are you on?
Berisha completely missed the ball and dived. Video ref there would've been spot on and ruled a dive, and a yellow card...

He was ankle tapped which made him miss the ball.

That's the other side of the argument... and is the exact point the Member is making.

[Premy]

What kind of drugs are you on?
Berisha completely missed the ball and dived. Video ref there would've been spot on and ruled a dive, and a yellow card...

I bet you're one of those people who say Lucas Neill never touched Grosso.

[tomo]

He was ankle tapped which made him miss the ball.

That's the other side of the argument... and is the exact point the Member is making.

He ankle tapped himself!

[Jetmaster]

Grim is right...I have the game. No matter how many times you watch it you can see a 50/50 decision that comes down to the refs interpretation.

[MFKS]

What kind of drugs are you on?
Berisha completely missed the ball and dived. Video ref there would've been spot on and ruled a dive, and a yellow card...

Liam Miller made the slightest bit of contact.

Berisha then made a meal of it.

Yeah he dived and played it for all it was worth.

Problem is here Miller should never ever have made any contact on the bloke. Everyone knows he will make a meal of anything. He gave Berisha the chance to make a meal of it. Just as Luca$h did on Grosso. Gave the bloke the chance he took it.

Hey I don't agree with the decision but I can see why the ref gave Berisha and Grosso as pens

[hawk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJOj-SrfhKw

Miller gave him a tap but the clincher was that there was a dik in goals called vuckavitch so Perth deserve to lose like that

[belchardo]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jun/06/bakries-to-retain-control-of-a-leagues-brisbane-roar-after-replacing-ceo

Bakries have held onto the roar.

[turbojetfireV8]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jun/06/bakries-to-retain-control-of-a-leagues-brisbane-roar-after-replacing-ceo

Bakries have held onto the roar.

Is that like when Tinkler held onto the Jets?? We'll see six months from now... :deadhorse:

[tomo]

Is that like when Tinkler held onto the Jets?? We'll see six months from now... :deadhorse:

One more f**k up from Bakries after the Jets are sold and the roar will be in the FFA's hands

[lil_masi]

Bakries selling the club to a Melbourne consortium

[hawk]

Bakries selling the club to a Melbourne consortium

Bakeries retaining a stake but not in control, apparently

[lil_masi]

Luciano Trani announced as asistant

[Couscous]

Assistant for whom?

[leftrightout]

Assistant for whom?
NBN said assistant to Miller

[Tommyjet]

We are luc trani's 5th club in the a-league.
Seems to be well respected by those in the know. Certainly doesnt have the intimidation factor that jp had though

[MFKS]

We are luc trani's 5th club in the a-league.
Seems to be well respected by those in the know. Certainly doesnt have the intimidation factor that jp had though

So he has been at 4 clubs and neither of them have retained him and no one has given him the top job.

Yet you think he is a good pick up??

[plague]

So he has been at 4 clubs and neither of them have retained him and no one has given him the top job.

Yet you think he is a good pick up??

Ranieri

[turbojetfireV8]

I'm disappointed as my BIL thought it was Rado Vidosic we were picking up... I know Portaloo tweeted a congrats to Luc, but anyone know much about him, can't say he has as high a profile as JP?

[Tommyjet]

So he has been at 4 clubs and neither of them have retained him and no one has given him the top job.

Yet you think he is a good pick up??

We could sign pep guadiola and you'd find a problem with it.

Read my post again and find where i said it was a good pick up. Football people who have had something to do with him have given him a glowing reference.

Also your point that he has had 4 other clubs reeks of football naivety.but then i should expect that.

[The Dunster]

So he has been at 4 clubs and neither of them have retained him and no one has given him the top job.

Yet you think he is a good pick up??

None of his moves over the years have been linked to poor performances or any personal falling out. So, given the shit we have accepted over the years at the Jets I think Luciano Trani is one of our better acquisitions.

[MFKS]

We could sign pep guadiola and you'd find a problem with it.

Read my post again and find where i said it was a good pick up. Football people who have had something to do with him have given him a glowing reference.

Also your point that he has had 4 other clubs reeks of football naivety.but then i should expect that.

You said he is well respected by those in the know.

Yet 4 clubs think that highly of him they haven't retained him.

Obviously they not know what all these other people in football seem to know.

Do you honestly think a bloke who achieved nothing at 4 better clubs than us and wasn't wanted by them all of a sudden is a great pick up for us??

Typical HAL

Recycling of other people's garbage.

Is this bloke the best assistant Millertime can get.

I think not.

Once again FFA throwing us under the ****ing bus

Why appoint an assistant now. Why can't the new Chinese overlord appoint the replacement for JPD??

Also I hearing that the FFA are bending over backwards to get Cahill to Heart.
Even gonna change rules to allow.
News is slow in LoS


You ****s raging on about a lack of a ****ing marquee and being run on the smell of an oily rag.b y the useless ****s at the FFA yet they try and allow shit like this for the big teams or what??

[Frodo]

You said he is well respected by those in the know.

Yet 4 clubs think that highly of him they haven't retained him.

Obviously they not know what all these other people in football seem to know.

Do you honestly think a bloke who achieved nothing at 4 better clubs than us and wasn't wanted by them all of a sudden is a great pick up for us??

Typical HAL

Recycling of other people's garbage.

Is this bloke the best assistant Millertime can get.

I think not.

Once again FFA throwing us under the ****ing bus

Why appoint an assistant now. Why can't the new Chinese overlord appoint the replacement for JPD??

Also I hearing that the FFA are bending over backwards to get Cahill to Heart.
Even gonna change rules to allow.
News is slow in LoS


You ****s raging on about a lack of a ****ing marquee and being run on the smell of an oily rag.b y the useless ****s at the FFA yet they try and allow shit like this for the big teams or what??

Firstly, it's more likely that Miller actually chose Tranny and the FFA chose JP, than the opposite, The FFA are a lot less involved now than they were last year. So this could actually be a tactical move by Miller to get someone beside him that has the same thoughts. Thats a glass half full view of it, but we don't know who chose LT.

Also, New owners can sack both of them as soon as they come in so it's not really the end of the world in that respect. We weren't going to sign a world-class assistant coach anyway so that points pretty mute. This may be Miller getting it done quickly to save risking his decision being dismissed by new owners.

[furns]

We weren't going to sign a world-class assistant coach anyway so that points pretty mute
Moot
:gent:

[Grimario]

Moot
:gent:

Shut up furns (ie be moot)

[MFKS]

Firstly, it's more likely that Miller actually chose Tranny and the FFA chose JP, than the opposite, The FFA are a lot less involved now than they were last year. So this could actually be a tactical move by Miller to get someone beside him that has the same thoughts. Thats a glass half full view of it, but we don't know who chose LT.

Also, New owners can sack both of them as soon as they come in so it's not really the end of the world in that respect. We weren't going to sign a world-class assistant coach anyway so that points pretty mute. This may be Miller getting it done quickly to save risking his decision being dismissed by new owners.
Where did I say we have to have a world class assistant??

I just said we should get the best we can get.

This bloke isn't even the best available judging by the 4 clubs who have failed to retain him.

It's a stop gap measure. Whilst we are in this ownership limbo with waiting for Mr Lee to arrive the FFA should have a tight hold on the reigns and not be making any decisions or sanctioning any.

Being the ownership is meant to be sorted in 2-3 weeks anyway I fail to understand why the FFA and Millertime can not wait to then

[sammydog]

Where did I say we have to have a world class assistant??

I just said we should get the best we can get.

This bloke isn't even the best available judging by the 4 clubs who have failed to retain him.

It's a stop gap measure. Whilst we are in this ownership limbo with waiting for Mr Lee to arrive the FFA should have a tight hold on the reigns and not be making any decisions or sanctioning any.

Being the ownership is meant to be sorted in 2-3 weeks anyway I fail to understand why the FFA and Millertime can not wait to then

Maybe out of the people who applied, we got the best we could get.

Even with the rumoured new owner, there would be a lot of question marks about the club. One obvious one being, does the new owner have the intention of bringing in their own staff. This job could be a very short tenure. That in itself could have culled a lot of potential applicants straight up.

I don't know much about the guy, so I am not going to cast any judgement on his quality, but there are a few decisions lately that I think should have been left for the new owner.

- The coffs home game
- Staffing such as assistant coach

[GazFish35]

Respected by those in the know.
Disrespected by those who in all serious know **** all.

Welcome to Newy.

[hawk]

I think we are grown up enough to make up our own minds on each appointment. Respect has to be earned and this "in the know" shit is quite tiresome. If you know tell it or stfu. like the players lets see how he goes first before we get all joyous.

[Thomas477]

Wasn't Stubbins respected, and look how well that turned out.

[plague]

I still need an answer on Steve Lustica ay.
I feel it hasn't been discussed enough.

[hawk]

Wasn't Stubbins respected, and look how well that turned out.

not by the people who were undecided for 3 weeks then soon found out he was a AAA cvnt. You have to read foz histories to find out who kissed his ass straight away

[Jeterpool]

Wasn't Stubbins respected, and look how well that turned out.

Didn't we also all laugh at Perth retaining Kenny Lowe.

[GazFish35]

I think we are grown up enough to make up our own minds on each appointment. Respect has to be earned and this "in the know" shit is quite tiresome. If you know tell it or stfu. like the players lets see how he goes first before we get all joyous.

Agreed.
Let's see how he goes before we get all negative too.
The negative bullshit before a bloke has even landed at newy airport is getting tiresome.

The "in the know" refers to people who have worked with him at previous clubs and speak highly of him. No-ones hiding anything.

[hawk]

Agreed.
Let's see how he goes before we get all negative too.
The negative bullshit before a bloke has even landed at newy airport is getting tiresome.

The "in the know" refers to people who have worked with him at previous clubs and speak highly of him. No-ones hiding anything.

Damn, I was hoping for some dirt. but well said

[Jeterpool]

Reports today that Vidosic has gone to China and is likely to replace James Troisi in the team. Troisi has been struggling to get a run lately. The Herald are also reporting Ledman Group are hesitant to splash on a big name marquee this year.

Troisi could be the ideal sort of player we go for. He is versatile and can score goals, as well as being Australian.

James Holland was also relegated from Bundesliga 2 this year. If it were me, I'd be selling him the opportunity to comeback and look to do what Aaron Mooy has done - rebuild your career in the A-League for a few seasons and try overseas again.

[StannyCFCJET]

Reports today that Vidosic has gone to China and is likely to replace James Troisi in the team. Troisi has been struggling to get a run lately. The Herald are also reporting Ledman Group are hesitant to splash on a big name marquee this year.

Troisi could be the ideal sort of player we go for. He is versatile and can score goals, as well as being Australian.

James Holland was also relegated from Bundesliga 2 this year. If it were me, I'd be selling him the opportunity to comeback and look to do what Aaron Mooy has done - rebuild your career in the A-League for a few seasons and try overseas again.

we have heaps of central midfielders atm we need to focus on quality wingers and strikers above all else. Stevie ugar poijak kanta cowburn and wayne brown is enough for the centre of the park

[Jeterpool]

we have heaps of central midfielders atm we need to focus on quality wingers and strikers above all else. Stevie ugar poijak kanta cowburn and wayne brown is enough for the centre of the park

I can see your point about the middle of the park. I'd be looking to sign Holland as our creative midfielder. I consider those you have listed above as more defensive minded or work-horse type midfielder.

[Grimario]

we have heaps of central midfielders atm we need to focus on quality wingers and strikers above all else. Stevie ugar poijak kanta cowburn and wayne brown is enough for the centre of the park

Troisi started life as an attacking left mid/winger with greasy long hair. Even at Victory, he never played as a central midfielder. He was basically a left footed Kosta Barbarouses, scored one goal every 2 games or something. That's exactly the kind of winger we need.

Are we even talking about the same player, Stanny?

[Jeterpool]

Troisi started life as an attacking left mid/winger with greasy long hair. Even at Victory, he never played as a central midfielder. He was basically a left footed Kosta Barbarouses, scored one goal every 2 games or something. That's exactly the kind of winger we need.

Are we even talking about the same player, Stanny?

I was suggesting using him as the wide player - much like we had with Ryan Griffiths. I think Stanny was referring to my suggestion of Jimmy Holland.

[StannyCFCJET]

Troisi started life as an attacking left mid/winger with greasy long hair. Even at Victory, he never played as a central midfielder. He was basically a left footed Kosta Barbarouses, scored one goal every 2 games or something. That's exactly the kind of winger we need.

Are we even talking about the same player, Stanny?

im talking about Holland Troisi as a wide attacking player id take 100%

[The Camel]

Troisi started life as an attacking left mid/winger with greasy long hair. Even at Victory, he never played as a central midfielder. He was basically a left footed Kosta Barbarouses, scored one goal every 2 games or something. That's exactly the kind of winger we need.

Are we even talking about the same player, Stanny?

I thought Stanny was talking about Jimmy Holland

[StannyCFCJET]

I can see your point about the middle of the park. I'd be looking to sign Holland as our creative midfielder. I consider those you have listed above as more defensive minded or work-horse type midfielder.

true but we have nordstrand and clut as well as cooper for the number 10 and i think brown can play there as well. Id love holland but we'ed need to move on both kanta and poijak IMO

[Grimario]

im talking about Holland Troisi as a wide attacking player id take 100%

****, don't mind me then. Haven't had my first, second or third coffee of the morning yet.

[StannyCFCJET]

****, don't mind me then. Haven't had my first, second or third coffee of the morning yet.
All is forgiven takes me several ice coffees to wake up

[Wilso8948]

I mentioned Toisi last week as I'd also heard he had fallen out of favour. Aussie wingers of that quality would be hard to find. Holland trumps all of our midfielders. If Nordstrand and Clut are our first choice no. 10s we are in trouble. Much prefer Morten as a ST and Clut is yet to prove himself capable of creating week in week out.

[Grimario]

All is forgiven takes me several ice coffees to wake up

Farmers Union Iced Coffee STRONG is my first this morning.

[StannyCFCJET]

I mentioned Toisi last week as I'd also heard he had fallen out of favour. Aussie wingers of that quality would be hard to find. Holland trumps all of our midfielders. If Nordstrand and Clut are our first choice no. 10s we are in trouble. Much prefer Morten as a ST and Clut is yet to prove himself capable of creating week in week out.

but we can't keep signing players for positions we already have ample depth sign the positions that are lacking first

[Jeterpool]

I mentioned Toisi last week as I'd also heard he had fallen out of favour. Aussie wingers of that quality would be hard to find. Holland trumps all of our midfielders. If Nordstrand and Clut are our first choice no. 10s we are in trouble. Much prefer Morten as a ST and Clut is yet to prove himself capable of creating week in week out.

Totally agree. Holland (in my head) is better than all of them. I'd have him back in an instant.


but we can't keep signing players for positions we already have ample depth sign the positions that are lacking first

However, that's a really valid point and we need to prioritise wide positions.

[Premy]

Jimmy back ever day of the week.

Kanta - Back up CB
Poljak- Back up CDM
Clut- Back up CAM
Labi - Back up wide man

Brown and Ugar - CDM
Jimmy - CAM
Troisi - LW
??????- RW
Nobby- ST

[Premy]

What's the latest on Milligan rumors???

Foti????

[StannyCFCJET]

Jimmy back ever day of the week.

Kanta - Back up CB
Poljak- Back up CDM
Clut- Back up CAM
Labi - Back up wide man

Brown and Ugar - CDM
Jimmy - CAM
Troisi - LW
??????- RW
Nobby- ST

i dont want kanta at CB ever again and i want Labi playing upfront

[Couscous]

Stanny was talking about Holland, not Troisi.

[Frodo]

Stanny was talking about Holland, not Troisi.

I think Stanny was talking about Holland, not Troisi.

[StannyCFCJET]

What's the latest on Milligan rumors???

Foti????

Miligan as CB alongside boogard would be good

[The Dunster]

Miligan as CB alongside boogard would be good

Milligan had his chance at the jets and failed to impress anyone. We might as well sign Jorge Drovandi if that's the path we are going down.

[MFKS]

Milligan had his chance at the jets and failed to impress anyone. We might as well sign Jorge Drovandi if that's the path we are going down.
Pull your head out of your arse.

Milligan is an elite player at HAL level

He would be a welcome addition to the rabble of shite we are.

I will go as far as saying his absence last season is what cost Victree any chance if retaining the title.
He is that effective at his job at this level

[Beeen]

Milligan had his chance at the jets and failed to impress anyone. We might as well sign Jorge Drovandi if that's the path we are going down.

That guy probably runs a meth lab in downtown Rosario.

[Couscous]

Victory to play Atletico Madrid in July in Geelong, where it'll also play the Jets this coming season.

Taking big clubs out to the fringes of civilisation is pretty damned offensive.

[Grimario]

Victory to play Atletico Madrid in July in Geelong, where it'll also play the Jets this coming season.

Taking big clubs out to the fringes of civilisation is pretty damned offensive.
Geelong is probably more civilised than Newcastle, tbf.

[MFKS]

Victory to play Atletico Madrid in July in Geelong, where it'll also play the Jets this coming season.

Taking big clubs out to the fringes of civilisation is pretty damned offensive.

Yep

Our rivals prepare for HAL with matches V best sides on the planet and we play NNSW NPL sides, intra club trials and more than likely a string of Chinese 2nd division sides

[Jetmaster]

Yep

Our rivals prepare for HAL with matches V best sides on the planet and we play NNSW NPL sides, intra club trials and more than likely a string of Chinese 2nd division sides

Getting those teams costs money, be fair. Marty has said we might play two top division Chinese sides as well as his own team so that's a start. If his business model is sound I'm sure we will see the big clubs in the future - it will be two years till we are able though.

[MFKS]

Getting those teams costs money, be fair. Marty has said we might play two top division Chinese sides as well as his own team so that's a start. If his business model is sound I'm sure we will see the big clubs in the future - it will be two years till we are able though.
Yet a couple of years ago the Gypos played Celtic

They are rolling in cash are they not??

Just takes some initiative which we are sadly lacking.

As for 2 years for what??

Same as this 3 to make the ACL

Complete crap

With the right investment we can make the thing this season and next we should be aiming to complete for the HAL titles.

It ain't that big of a jump from 8th to top 2

[sammydog]

Yet a couple of years ago the Gypos played Celtic

They are rolling in cash are they not??

Just takes some initiative which we are sadly lacking.

As for 2 years for what??

Same as this 3 to make the ACL

Complete crap

With the right investment we can make the thing this season and next we should be aiming to complete for the HAL titles.

It ain't that big of a jump from 8th to top 2

FFS, the new owner has had the club for 2 days and you are already talking about a lack of ambition?

Two years to break even as a club is a good thing to aspire to.

If we get the ACL in three seasons, thats not bad, particularly if its done on the back of setting up a sustainable club.

Throwing money hand over fist at a club in an unsustainable way is just going to see us going backwards in the long term.

[Bon]

http://intradayfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/optimism-test.jpg

[plague]

We should play the Matildas.

[Thomas477]

We did play Juve a few years back.

[MFKS]

Henrique has left the Roar for some Malaysian no name club

[StannyCFCJET]

Henrique has left the Roar for some Malaysian no name club

big loss for Roar great impact Sub wonder if we made a bid for him

[Jeterpool]

Henrique has left the Roar for some Malaysian no name club

He's gone to the club Taylor Regan is captaining.

[RAM]

Pull your head out of your arse.

Milligan is an elite player at HAL level

He would be a welcome addition to the rabble of shite we are.

I will go as far as saying his absence last season is what cost Victree any chance if retaining the title.
He is that effective at his job at this level

well said

[borat]

Getting those teams costs money, be fair. Marty has said we might play two top division Chinese sides as well as his own team so that's a start. If his business model is sound I'm sure we will see the big clubs in the future - it will be two years till we are able though.
I read the team is touring China in August pending the FFA cup schedule

[Beeen]

We have not given one **** about the FFA cup in the past i don't see why we would now when there's more fans to be potentially gained.

[MFKS]

Garuccio fapping can cease as he has now signed for Pissants

On another note Gypos winger Mitch Austin has been released to pursue other HAL opportunity


.......????

[tomo]

Has anyone heard about the Jets being linked to a Korean "Wayne Rooney"??
Heard a little rumour today about it, thats all

[Grimario]

Has anyone heard about the Jets being linked to a Korean "Wayne Rooney"??
Heard a little rumour today about it, thats all

Can't find anyone called Wayne Looney.

[sammydog]

Has anyone heard about the Jets being linked to a Korean "Wayne Rooney"??
Heard a little rumour today about it, thats all

North or South Korea?

[Premy]

On another note Gypos winger Mitch Austin has been released to pursue other HAL opportunity


.......????
Victory

[Premy]

Has anyone heard about the Jets being linked to a Korean "Wayne Rooney"??
Heard a little rumour today about it, thats all

Jong Tae-Sae???
I think it was more a suggestion rather than a rumor.

[sammydog]

Victory

Id read a swap with Conner Pain.

[tomo]

Jong Tae-Sae???
I think it was more a suggestion rather than a rumor.

Not sure who he is, just heard it today. Could be just a name thrown up in the air with nothing else to it

[tomo]

Hoole returning to the Jets according to Gardiner's herald story

[furns]

Hoole returning to the Jets according to Gardiner's herald story
Its in the squad thread mate

[tomo]

Its in the squad thread mate

Sorry, i get confused which one in on half of the time lol

[RAM]

Jong Tae-Sae???
I think it was more a suggestion rather than a rumor.

He was a gun a few years back at the WC

[Jetmaster]

Griff tells it like it is...even he says we need to be patient.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3978339/joel-griffiths-welcomes-jets-chinese-takeover/?cs=306


Scott Miller has got his work cut out, for sure. I think the most important thing is to be patient, because it isn’t going to happen overnight.

“And that’s what the fans have to realise. It is a work in process. There’s stages to be set and climbed, retention of players and what-not, and once we have a solid team that can compete for the six, then obviously sky’s the limit.

[Jeterpool]

Griff tells it like it is...even he says we need to be patient.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3978339/joel-griffiths-welcomes-jets-chinese-takeover/?cs=306

If he says it, it must be true

[sammydog]

Griff tells it like it is...even he says we need to be patient.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3978339/joel-griffiths-welcomes-jets-chinese-takeover/?cs=306

I think its obvious, if you want long term stability and success you have to build it right.

If you want short term, throw stupid amounts of cash and see it implode in a few years.

Griff is on the money.

[stopper2]

Yes, I think it's more a case of getting the structure and foundations right behind the scenes first...getting the club up to the level of most of the other clubs in the A League first ie physios, strength/conditioning coaches, staff in general.
Compare Tinkler starting off with the gimmicky Beckham/La Galaxy thing....yeah it was a great night and all that but where did the club end up under him a few years down the track because we were still basically in a semi-professional set-up!
Need to find a balance though, one ot two name players (not necessarily marquees) would give fans a but of a buzz and hope that hey we can improve on last seasons 8th spot and give the top 6 a real challenge.

[Local Rules]

Another supposed case of players playing where they shouldn't

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3982597/officials-look-at-another-ring-in/?cs=2439

[MFKS]

Another supposed case of players playing where they shouldn't

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3982597/officials-look-at-another-ring-in/?cs=2439

FR any comment???

[furns]

Yes, I think it's more a case of getting the structure and foundations right behind the scenes first...getting the club up to the level of most of the other clubs in the A League first ie physios, strength/conditioning coaches, staff in general.
Compare Tinkler starting off with the gimmicky Beckham/La Galaxy thing....yeah it was a great night and all that but where did the club end up under him a few years down the track because we were still basically in a semi-professional set-up!
Need to find a balance though, one ot two name players (not necessarily marquees) would give fans a but of a buzz and hope that hey we can improve on last seasons 8th spot and give the top 6 a real challenge.
basically what I said when I had a number of radio stations ring me for comment the day of the Martin Lee announcement. I said while I wasnt expecting money to be splashed on marquees straight away, what we really needed was investment ASAP in the front office and ancilliary coaching staff. We are running with 8 people in the front office, even the gypos have more.
Makes last seasons accomplishments in the admin of the club especially around the RAAF round, Greater community engagement initiative and the huge increase in commercial sponsorships a fantastic effort.

[Jetmaster]

Right things being said so far.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3984925/martin-lee-brings-pressure-game-to-newcastle-jets/?cs=305

[MFKS]

Right things being said so far.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3984925/martin-lee-brings-pressure-game-to-newcastle-jets/?cs=305

Heard the same stuff from HSG


Let's just wait and see whether Ledman delivers more than just empty words like Tinkler did

[Premy]

Heard the same stuff from HSG


Let's just wait and see whether Ledman delivers more than just empty words like Tinkler did

Sensible words, remind yourself of these before you go on your little rambles about Mr Lee.

[GazFish35]

Paul Keating's "always back self interest" makes me look into his motives and they're a darn sight better than Tinkler's.

Boost business and reputation in Asia (and stroke ego) by getting a club into the ACL to see company make money in "new technology"
Send some Chinese players and staff out here to learn the Australian "never say die" attitude.

Versus

Try and keep the plebs happy by "saving" the club so you can get political sway in order to get more "old technology" out of the port.


I know which self interest goals I'd like to be riding the coat tales of.

Now he's just gotta deliver on his promises for all our enjoyment.

[stopper2]

^^^^
Basically Lee/Ledman Group have got bigger fish to fry than Tinkler, there's is a global strategy and they see the Newcastle Jets as a conduit to expand into Australia and at the same time forge links which will eventually be part of Chinese football's plan to become a powerhouse within 10 years.
Just be patient my friends but I really think we are on a winner with Martin Lee though it's just not going to happen overnight.

[plague]

Try and keep the plebs happy by "saving" the club so you can get political sway in order to get more "old technology" out of the port.


I mean, you know he was pretty much putting politicians on the payroll in order to get that 'sway' right?

No bunch of Mong football fans were going to influence the coal loader decision.
Not one iota.

He saved the club because with good intentions. He was no where near ready to deal with people who had less money but more power than him.
That's where the shit started.

Let's hope Mr Lee doesn't suffer the same fate ey.

[turbojetfireV8]

I still subscribe to the theory Tinkler only took on the Jets to get his ultimate prize, the Knights. All the grandstanding and splashing the cash on stuff like the Galaxy game etc was done to impress the Knights with his spending power and secure that deal. Unfortunately for us, the NRL were more cautious than FFA and p*ssed him off a bit quicker but once he lost his baby he pretty much spat the dummy and wanted to offload us, just wasn't cluey enough to know how - ended up losing us which is ironic seeing as he at one stage tried to hand us back only to find that he couldn't...

[plague]

Nah he spat the dummy once he spoke to fat Clive and discovered he'd been shafted by FFA. That was the moment he gave up.
To be fair as much as 'a fool and his money etc etc' it was more naïveté on his part that he thought he was doing something good.

His behaviour once he gave up was disgraceful and unacceptable but I guess we can all make our own assumptions on how we'd deal with getting swindled by a bunch of homeless people.

[plague]

But I agree that helping the Jets didn't hurt his chances with the Knights. He was even pretty open in saying he wanted to be white knight*.


*soz, no other term was apt.