2017/18 Squad Thread

[Mark325]

https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/jets-target-burns-exits-j-league-466234

We after burns

[Jeterpool]

First day of training today.

[Grimario]

First day of training today.

We even get pics!

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/photo-gallery/gallery-jets-get-to-work-under-ernie-1p1upo0q8gacc1xr6hso39xi1m/newcastle-jets-took-to-the-pitch-under-ernie-merrick-for-the-first-time-on-monday-26-june-2017--new-faces-joined-old-faces-as-we-commenced-pre-season-2017-1


I love how they are all so polite and have their hands up waiting their turn to ask questions for the new teacher.

[GrantB]

Talking to Ernie he said two more players to come, an Asian/Chinese player and a goal scorer a number 10.

He said he spoke to Ozil, but he wont leave Arsenal, but he did admit he hadn't shown him a photo of Nobby's Beach :rof:

[The Camel]

Talking to Ernie he said two more players to come, an Asian/Chinese player and a goal scorer a number 10.

He said he spoke to Ozil, but he wont leave Arsenal, but he did admit he hadn't shown him a photo of Nobby's Beach :rof:

Burns and Song. Boom done

[Jeterpool]

Talking to Ernie he said two more players to come, an Asian/Chinese player and a goal scorer a number 10.

He said he spoke to Ozil, but he wont leave Arsenal, but he did admit he hadn't shown him a photo of Nobby's Beach :rof:

"goal scorer or number 10" or "goal scoring number 10"?

[Jeterpool]

Burns and Song. Boom done

That'd do it. Burns as a marquee.

[The Dunster]

That'd do it. Burns as a marquee.

I'd rather Troisi than Burns if the club is looking for a marquee. I'd offer Troisi a million a season before I offered Burns 450k.

[Mark325]

I'd rather Troisi than Burns if the club is looking for a marquee. I'd offer Troisi a million a season before I offered Burns 450k.

Troisi is lookin at a multi year contract at brighton, he has no intention of stickin in the a league unless he has too

clubs already lookin at burns so i'd say we're likely to grab him

[GrantB]

"goal scorer or number 10" or "goal scoring number 10"?

That should have been a "goal scoring number 10"

[MFKS]

"goal scorer or number 10" or "goal scoring number 10"?

Whoever it is they be just the bloke wearing the number 10 shirt as we know the bloke won't score with a fistful of fifties in a whore house by the time we cripple his game

[turbojetfireV8]

https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/jets-target-burns-exits-j-league-466234

We after burns
https://twitter.com/bradfogarty95/status/878138742229262337 - wish someone would tell Lawrie that...

[Mark325]

https://twitter.com/bradfogarty95/status/878138742229262337 - wish someone would tell Lawrie that...

wonderin how much space that means we have left under the cap, too much for a player the quality of burns which is a shame

would love to see us look at movin on boogard to make space for burns

also, if we tryin to squeeze burns under the cap that'd mean we signing a marquee asian/chinese player then

[turbojetfireV8]

could do, but I can't see us moving too many of our Jones-unlimitedcontractextension guys on, so I'm thinking we aint getting Burns :(

[R Ramjet]

that just means martin lee isnt giving us enough money for 2 more visa players and a marquee. Poor form lee

[furns]

wonderin how much space that means we have left under the cap, too much for a player the quality of burns which is a shame

would love to see us look at movin on boogard to make space for burns

also, if we tryin to squeeze burns under the cap that'd mean we signing a marquee asian/chinese player thennothing to stop us making Burns marquee as well

[hawk]

Well we dont do markeez so thats heaps to stop

[MFKS]

Of the 21 signed, only midfielder Wayne Brown and goalkeeper Glen Moss were not present on Monday.


Brown returns from England later this week and will join the group on July 2.

Dimi Petratos, who only recently left Korean club Ulsan Hyundai, was at Ray Watt Oval but is not due to start training until next week.


Ok I will cut Moss some slack seeing as he is probably on transit back from Russia after being their with the Kiwis.


But the Scandinavian League Marquee??

Why the **** is he not training??

What sort of Bullshit we running where the players ain't front and centre for first day of training??

[MonkeyKplunk]

Ok I will cut Moss some slack seeing as he is probably on transit back from Russia after being their with the Kiwis.


But the Scandinavian League Marquee??

Why the **** is he not training??

What sort of Bullshit we running where the players ain't front and centre for first day of training??

I have to agree.
You know what the first day of training is before you book any holidays. The only excuse can only ever be away on international duties as Moss was.

[q-money]

jeez didn't the bloke just have a kid ffs, probably going back to visit the family you heartless pricks

[Grimario]

jeez didn't the bloke just have a kid ffs, probably going back to visit the family you heartless pricks

Just? That was 6 months ago. Why isn't the massive break they had long enough to visit family?

[halo se7en]

Ok I will cut Moss some slack seeing as he is probably on transit back from Russia after being their with the Kiwis.


But the Scandinavian League Marquee??

Why the **** is he not training??

What sort of Bullshit we running where the players ain't front and centre for first day of training??

I'm sure Brown gives a shit that you haven't cut him some slack. It said he'll be back later this week. It's not like he's going to be a month behind or anything significant. It was obviously pre-approved by the club and we don't know what the reasons are. Ultimately who gives a ****.

[Grimario]

Just? That was 6 months ago. Why isn't the massive break they had long enough to visit family?

PS I am just playing devil's dadvocate. I don't really give a shit how long people take.

[MFKS]

I'm sure Brown gives a shit that you haven't cut him some slack. It said he'll be back later this week. It's not like he's going to be a month behind or anything significant. It was obviously pre-approved by the club and we don't know what the reasons are. Ultimately who gives a ****.

Club hasn't made the semis in **** knows how long and it because of weak arse bullshit like this

Blokes an alleged senior player and should be front and centre this week just like everyone else

No I in team and this sending a bad message to the rest of the squad

[MFKS]

jeez didn't the bloke just have a kid ffs, probably going back to visit the family you heartless pricks

Poor **** has just had 8 weeks Annual Leave

I hate to see how he go working another job where he lucky to get 4 weeks

God help the poor bugger if the Jets make the semis and that eats into the poor sods R&R

[pv4]

Memba - blame the management from coach/club level. They're the ones whom allowed it.

If you're working another job with only 4 weeks allowed and are offered a couple extra, I am sure as shit confident you wouldn't decline :rof:

[halo se7en]

Club hasn't made the semis in **** knows how long and it because of weak arse bullshit like this

Blokes an alleged senior player and should be front and centre this week just like everyone else

No I in team and this sending a bad message to the rest of the squad

Yep, because this will make or break whether we reach semi-final football. It's not like he may have had an ill family member, issues with flights, or any other number of circumstances that don't fit into your perfect ideal. He may have booked the trip already and Ernie came in and decided to have the players start a week earlier?

[MFKS]

Yep, because this will make or break whether we reach semi-final football. It's not like he may have had an ill family member, issues with flights, or any other number of circumstances that don't fit into your perfect ideal. He may have booked the trip already and Ernie came in and decided to have the players start a week earlier?
You say that like there 1 flight option a fortnight from Europe to Australia. Bloke has a squillion options a day to get back here whether that be through one of the 40 countries in Europe a with an Airline or the Gulf or Asia or Nth America or Sth America or Africa


A professional competent club don't allow players to be absent from pre season training

No it won't make or break our season as we shot **** already

But it this type of bullshit where we again and again show ourselves as amatuers and it shows WHY we constantly Fail

Not one **** at the club expects 100% from each person employed

The she"LL be right mentality exists

[The Dunster]

You say that like there 1 flight option a fortnight from Europe to Australia. Bloke has a squillion options a day to get back here whether that be through one of the 40 countries in Europe a with an Airline or the Gulf or Asia or Nth America or Sth America or Africa


A professional competent club don't allow players to be absent from pre season training

No it won't make or break our season as we shot **** already

But it this type of bullshit where we again and again show ourselves as amatuers and it shows WHY we constantly Fail

Not one **** at the club expects 100% from each person employed

The she"LL be right mentality exists

True. Players that put family or other commitments before their careers are rarely going to live up to their potential as players. If you want to be the best at something you have to give it all you have and forget about anything else such as family which will only distract you.
It's not about being a good person or about being nice / doing the right thing - it's about winning at all costs.
Any player that doesn't get it is having a laugh at the club and the fans.
There are other jobs out there more suitable for people that want to compromise their careers to be with their family / friends.

Nice guys rarely win.

[pv4]

I was actually encouraged by Ernie saying this is the biggest turnout he has had for first week of training in his A-League coaching history (a history which included 2x Premiership/Championship Doubles) tbh :rof::oops:

[halo se7en]

True. Players that put family or other commitments before their careers are rarely going to live up to their potential as players. If you want to be the best at something you have to give it all you have and forget about anything else such as family which will only distract you.
It's not about being a good person or about being nice / doing the right thing - it's about winning at all costs.
Any player that doesn't get it is having a laugh at the club and the fans.
There are other jobs out there more suitable for people that want to compromise their careers to be with their family / friends.

Nice guys rarely win.

This is a pisstake surely?

[Wilso8948]

True. Players that put family or other commitments before their careers are rarely going to live up to their potential as players. If you want to be the best at something you have to give it all you have and forget about anything else such as family which will only distract you.
It's not about being a good person or about being nice / doing the right thing - it's about winning at all costs.
Any player that doesn't get it is having a laugh at the club and the fans.
There are other jobs out there more suitable for people that want to compromise their careers to be with their family / friends.

Nice guys rarely win.

What a bunch of absolute bullshit.

[Jetmaster]

You need balance - though not quite the old days where if you went to the birth you were sacked from your job or dropped from a football team (which is what happened). You have responsibilities to your employer.

What I didn't like about Brown's case is he tried to have his cake and eat it. He should never have left Newcastle if he had any doubts about his wife's condition - if he went with the team he should have seen the match out. He is probably showing off his new kid to friends and family overseas but as said before - how much time do you need?

Anyway - we've already had this argument and I'm with Dunster as he is of the same vintage as me!

[The Dunster]

What a bunch of absolute bullshit.

How is it bullshit ?

The list of persons who are elite in their fields that didn't put their careers first will be a very short list.

[halo se7en]

How is it bullshit ?

The list of persons who are elite in their fields that didn't put their careers first will be a very short list.

Jesus Christ, he's a few days late to pre-season training which the club appear to have sanctioned. Let it go ffs.

[The Dunster]

Jesus Christ, he's a few days late to pre-season training which the club appear to have sanctioned. Let it go ffs.

The bloke clocked off after he secured a contract extension from the club. He's been on holidays ever since.

[Couscous]

Anyone who takes fewer than eight weeks off a year is a fool. In my opinion.

It's quite standard for enterprise agreements to give workers the option of buying an extra four weeks a year.

[MonkeyKplunk]

With every further post I'm regretting agreeing with Member

[MFKS]

Jesus Christ, he's a few days late to pre-season training which the club appear to have sanctioned. Let it go ffs.

It not about being a few days late

It about the club setting it's expectations as being anything less than 100% commitment to the cause

We have Petratos who has only recently signed can front up in Newy for the first session even though he wasn't required

Yet we have another bloke 12k miles away

What sort of issues you think having one rule for one bloke and another rule for the rest causes??

Like he ain't even the ****ing star player getting preference either

Says a lot about his commitment to the club

[hawk]

jeez didn't the bloke just have a kid ffs, probably going back to visit the family you heartless pricks

Listen to this feminist :violin:

ffs, get ya fatass into training browntown. He has to make up for a sh1t season last yr as well.

[lquiquer]

Listen to this feminist :violin:

ffs, get ya fatass into training browntown. He has to make up for a sh1t season last yr as well.

And they gave the Finish Messi a 2 years extension... FFS !!!.:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

[De-Champ]

Why are you worried if Brown is late. I hope he is super late and does not turn up. He not exactly set the A league on fire. i think he had what one, two decent games, the rest would not get a start in a decent NPL side.

[lquiquer]

It not about being a few days late

It about the club setting it's expectations as being anything less than 100% commitment to the cause

We have Petratos who has only recently signed can front up in Newy for the first session even though he wasn't required

Yet we have another bloke 12k miles away

What sort of issues you think having one rule for one bloke and another rule for the rest causes??

Like he ain't even the ****ing star player getting preference either

Says a lot about his commitment to the club

Yeah agree 250%....And after 7 years ish season without finals football it's time to commit 250%....we talking making A-Aleague reaching top leagues here, time to show it.... 250% professional .... u think clubs in Europe, South America and Even Asia.. care about weddings , kids... blah blah blah ???? ... helloooo, We doing Brown, Kokko.. and co a favour, they make their money from football, no one else willing to pay them that good so let's be honest here, so give us respect and commit 250%.. So i agree with The membah here.....

[Wilso8948]

How is it bullshit ?

The list of persons who are elite in their fields that didn't put their careers first will be a very short list.

For the record I don't give a **** what Brown is doing and I don't really rate him. But to say that a person can only reach their full potential if they "forget about anything else such as family which will only distract you" is surely a joke?

Messi, Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Roger Federer, Andy Murray, Manny Pacquiao, Jason Day, Casey Stoner. **** even Obama. I realise for each of these there is a single bloke doing just as much but are you honestly saying these blokes would have done so much more if they didn't have a mrs and kids? **** me.

If you're good at something you are good at something. And vice versa. Regardless of your personal situation.

[Jetmaster]

Why are you worried if Brown is late. I hope he is super late and does not turn up. He not exactly set the A league on fire. i think he had what one, two decent games, the rest would not get a start in a decent NPL side.

Yes - there is that.

Maybe he is looking for a club in the July window!

[Jeterpool]

For the record I don't give a **** what Brown is doing and I don't really rate him. But to say that a person can only reach their full potential if they "forget about anything else such as family which will only distract you" is surely a joke?

Messi, Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Roger Federer, Andy Murray, Manny Pacquiao, Jason Day, Casey Stoner. **** even Obama. I realise for each of these there is a single bloke doing just as much but are you honestly saying these blokes would have done so much more if they didn't have a mrs and kids? **** me.

If you're good at something you are good at something. And vice versa. Regardless of your personal situation.

And Tiger Woods...oh wiat

[Wilso8948]

And Tiger Woods...oh wiat

I did almost mention him.. And at how his career has gone after riding himself of such family distractions haha.

[Jeterpool]

I did almost mention him.. And at how his career has gone after riding himself of such family distractions haha.

:rof:

[MFKS]

I did almost mention him.. And at how his career has gone after riding himself of such family distractions haha.

His career though went down hill when his body packed it in

After his knee blew out he changed his game constantly to compensate

Never got it back to the same level

His sex dramas are just a convenient sub plot to the fact his knee and back are ****ed

[The Dunster]

For the record I don't give a **** what Brown is doing and I don't really rate him. But to say that a person can only reach their full potential if they "forget about anything else such as family which will only distract you" is surely a joke?

Messi, Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Roger Federer, Andy Murray, Manny Pacquiao, Jason Day, Casey Stoner. **** even Obama. I realise for each of these there is a single bloke doing just as much but are you honestly saying these blokes would have done so much more if they didn't have a mrs and kids? **** me.

If you're good at something you are good at something. And vice versa. Regardless of your personal situation.

I'm talking about what these people are really like not what you think they are like from reading Woman's Day magazine.

I'll put it in these terms - do you think each of those in your list are as good at being a husband and parent as they are in their chosen field ? And by as good I mean world class not average / normal.

The last person the media tried to make out as being worlds best on the golf course and off it was Tiger Woods - and we all saw how that ended.

You are also forgetting about the massive sacrifices these kids parents made to get them to the top - the majority of them would have put their own lives on hold especially wrt tennis, motorcycling, and golf.

Everyone on your list is or was a selfish khunt and to think otherwise is deluded.

[MFKS]

I'm talking about what these people are really like not what you think they are like from reading Woman's Day magazine.

I'll put it in these terms - do you think each of those in your list are as good at being a husband and parent as they are in their chosen field ? And by as good I mean world class not average / normal.

The last person the media tried to make out as being worlds best on the golf course and off it was Tiger Woods - and we all saw how that ended.

You are also forgetting about the massive sacrifices these kids parents made to get them to the top - the majority of them would have put their own lives on hold especially wrt tennis, motorcycling, and golf.

Everyone on your list is or was a selfish khunt and to think otherwise is deluded.

Bang on the money

[Wilso8948]

I'm talking about what these people are really like not what you think they are like from reading Woman's Day magazine.

I'll put it in these terms - do you think each of those in your list are as good at being a husband and parent as they are in their chosen field ? And by as good I mean world class not average / normal.

The last person the media tried to make out as being worlds best on the golf course and off it was Tiger Woods - and we all saw how that ended.

You are also forgetting about the massive sacrifices these kids parents made to get them to the top - the majority of them would have put their own lives on hold especially wrt tennis, motorcycling, and golf.

Everyone on your list is or was a selfish khunt and to think otherwise is deluded.

Are we seriously debating this further? Casey Stoner was a world class rider who conquered all there was to win on an "unrideable" Ducati. Not even Rossi has matched this. He then retired from racing and holds down (in my opinion) a very stable family. He still performs testing on GP bikes with better lap times than almost all current riders. During his time as no.1 his family travelled with him. You stated that family only "distracts" you. I'll agree that these families would make massive sacrifices but to say that these individuals did not live up to their potential is having a larf.

[plague]

**** even Obama.

Yeah well tell that to the families of Benghazi

cc: q-man
#hillaryforprison
#jetfuelcantmeltsteelbeams
#staywoke


Also, I don't think Dwyane Wade is a good example of a stable family and Casey Stoner hooked up with his team bosses daughter after he'd 'made it', I think Chad Reed is the moto guy you're looking for as an example there.


But yeah I'm glad the Jets fans are upset their 'most together team in the comp award for the month of July' award will be going to someone else this year.

[pv4]

Everyone calm down. Michael Jordan was portrayed as a great father in Space Jam.

[Wilso8948]

Yeah well tell that to the families of Benghazi

cc: q-man
#hillaryforprison
#jetfuelcantmeltsteelbeams
#staywoke


Also, I don't think Dwyane Wade is a good example of a stable family and Casey Stoner hooked up with his team bosses daughter after he'd 'made it', I think Chad Reed is the moto guy you're looking for as an example there.


But yeah I'm glad the Jets fans are upset their 'most together team in the comp award for the month of July' award will be going to someone else this year.

Only used Obama as an example of reaching the "elite" level whilst still holding down a family. Stoner met his wife long after he was no.1

[plague]

Also Tiger Woods won 5 titles and Player of the year in 2013, well after his marriage breakup.

Injury stopped Tiger Woods.

[Wilso8948]

Everyone calm down. Michael Jordan was portrayed as a great father in Space Jam.

He left his kids high and dry whilst he chased a rabbit down a hole. **** that guy.

[Wilso8948]

But yeah I'm glad the Jets fans are upset their 'most together team in the comp award for the month of July' award will be going to someone else this year.

This is getting more off topic than the last time women were brought into the discussion. OK Dunster I agree. Women are distracting/the devil.

Or dare I say it.

Birds are?

[plague]

Stoner met his wife long after he was no.1

Yeah that's what I said.

[Wilso8948]

Yeah that's what I said.

Yeh sorry my bad. Should have added "he stayed No.1 after that"

[plague]

Only used Obama as an example of reaching the "elite" level whilst still holding down a family.

and he got replaced by a thrice married self confessed pussy grabber.

Let's face it, Dominic Torreto is the only bloke left in the world who genuinely values family over success.

[The Dunster]

This is getting more off topic than the last time women were brought into the discussion. OK Dunster I agree. Women are distracting/the devil.

Or dare I say it.

Birds are?

Good to see you are finally on board - Keep up the good work.

[StannyCFCJET]

Danny Vukovic anyone?? had potentially his best ever season while his son was really sick and spend alot of time in hospital so all you guys bagging Wayne Brown for potentially being late to pre season for family shit need to grow up

[The Dunster]

Danny Vukovic anyone?? had potentially his best ever season while his son was really sick and spend alot of time in hospital so all you guys bagging Wayne Brown for potentially being late to pre season for family shit need to grow up

Injecting a life threatening disease into Brown's kid to get him playing better football for the Jets is a bit extreme don't you think ?

[MFKS]

Injecting a life threatening disease into Brown's kid to get him playing better football for the Jets is a bit extreme don't you think ?

Injecting life threatening diseases into the Jets players to get them to play at a significantly improved level ???

Maybe that something we should look into pioneering

Or even the threat of it to get them to pull their finger out may sufflice

[turbojetfireV8]

Why are you worried if Brown is late. I hope he is super late and does not turn up. He not exactly set the A league on fire. i think he had what one, two decent games, the rest would not get a start in a decent NPL side.

fine by me if Brown is late, as long as his wife isn't, that's where the trouble started last time...

though with Lawrie talking about offloading players, do you think Brown could be a candidate? for whatever reason he hasn't lived up to the hype so can't be considered value for money going forward (unless he has a huge form improvement this season, bit of a stretch considering last season though),\

I agree not being assed to make sure you are back in time for the start of preseason isn't exactly showing the new gaffer you're champing at the bit, was kinda hoping that photo of him and Scott Miller having coffee together was due to other negotiations going on TBH...

[Couscous]

I find this thread's rules of workplace management more disturbing than the Member's rules of sex, as explained in the squad thread.

[pv4]

Birds are?

https://i.imgflip.com/6ei0a.jpg?a416184

[The Dunster]

If Brown can punch / headbutt a gypo in the opening game all will be forgiven.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DC9JLt-XkAE4ZfS.jpg:large

[Bon]

Back on topic..
I've got a few acquaintances down in gypoland (not pv4) who are frothing up over this article.. haha
Love it..

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/06/26/odonovan-reveals-what-convinced-him-sign-jets

[Jeterpool]

Back on topic..
I've got a few acquaintances down in gypoland (not pv4) who are frothing up over this article.. haha
Love it..

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/06/26/odonovan-reveals-what-convinced-him-sign-jets

Lucky he didn't come from Southampton. #tappingup

[Wilso8948]

Attn Dunster/Plague etc.

Found it ironic as per our discussions yesterday that these following articles came out today. I did have to chuckle.

Messi marries is childhood sweetheart- http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/06/29/not-so-shy-messi-tying-knot-childhood-sweetheart

but..

Ronaldo misses the birth of his twins whilst playing - http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/06/29/ronaldo-confirms-birth-twin-sons

[Bon]

Ronaldo misses the birth of his twins whilst playing - http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/06/29/ronaldo-confirms-birth-twin-sons

Wait, Ronaldo had twins through a surrogate?
Nothing wrong with that, just wondering what the go is?

[The Dunster]

Wait, Ronaldo had twins through a surrogate?
Nothing wrong with that, just wondering what the go is?

Missus probably doesn't want to ruin the vadge and CR7 is in full agreement.

[Bon]

Missus probably doesn't want to ruin the vadge and CR7 is in full agreement.

:lulzturtle:

[Wilso8948]

Wait, Ronaldo had twins through a surrogate?
Nothing wrong with that, just wondering what the go is?

No idea but his mrs is quality. Maybe she didn't want the stretch marks?

[The Dunster]

Attn Dunster/Plague etc.

Found it ironic as per our discussions yesterday that these following articles came out today. I did have to chuckle.

Messi marries is childhood sweetheart- http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/06/29/not-so-shy-messi-tying-knot-childhood-sweetheart

but..

Ronaldo misses the birth of his twins whilst playing - http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/06/29/ronaldo-confirms-birth-twin-sons

More evidence that CR7 reads the foz.

[Jetmaster]

On his way?

http://www.socceroos.com.au/article/caltex-socceroo-attacker-nathan-burns-departs-j-league-club-fc-tokyo/1fegk9kg5yabx1bz3jrr4h676n

[hawk]

No idea but his mrs is quality. Maybe she didn't want the stretch marks?

wonder who the father is cause Ronny only loves himself

[ForeverRed]

On his way?

http://www.socceroos.com.au/article/caltex-socceroo-attacker-nathan-burns-departs-j-league-club-fc-tokyo/1fegk9kg5yabx1bz3jrr4h676n
Maybe he can bring that strip with him

[evanhayes5]

If we're in the market for a goal scoring number 10, does that mean Petratos will play out wide?

Also who plays in the middle next to Ugarkovic? Brown, Kanta or Koutroumbis?

[Tommyjet]

If we're in the market for a goal scoring number 10, does that mean Petratos will play out wide?

Also who plays in the middle next to Ugarkovic? Brown, Kanta or Koutroumbis?

I dont think our formation will be conventional this season. I doubt our wingers will be 'hugging the touchline'. Ernie has stated that he wants those in forward positions getting in excess of 70 or so touch's per game, can't remember the actual minimum he said.
Width to come from fullbacks

[steve136]

I dont think our formation will be conventional this season. I doubt our wingers will be 'hugging the touchline'. Ernie has stated that he wants those in forward positions getting in excess of 70 or so touch's per game, can't remember the actual minimum he said.
Width to come from fullbacks

That won't bode well for Nabbout, who has the touch of a donkey.

[Jeterpool]

That won't bode well for Nabbout, who has the touch of a donkey.

Did Nabbout play under Merrick at Victory, where he was used as a striker?

[MFKS]

Did Nabbout play under Merrick at Victory, where he was used as a striker?
Not that I aware of


Merrick left 2011

Nabbout didn't start there to 2012

So other than being in the Yoof set up Merrick probably had **** all to do with him

[plague]

Also who plays in the middle next to Ugarkovic? Brown, Kanta or Koutroumbis?

It should be Johnny K.
Which means it won't be Johnny K.

[Jeterpool]

It should be Johnny K.
Which means it won't be Johnny K.

Hang on. We don't know that Merrick doesn't know what he's doing yet.

He might surprise us.

He probably won't.

[Mark325]

I would like too see brown be given a chance at no.8 first. If he flops then put johnny k in there instead

[Jetmaster]

Maybe he can bring that strip with him

Yep - it is a different use of our "colours".

[Mark325]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_Jets_FC#Players

probably means nothing but burns is now listed as a jets player

[Jardelsimage]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_Jets_FC#Players

probably means nothing but burns is now listed as a jets player

Academy Director----Gary van Egmond
so is this bloke........

[MonkeyKplunk]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_Jets_FC#Players

probably means nothing but burns is now listed as a jets player

You're right. Means nothing.
Goddamn wiki and it's open editing

So much useful information, but you never know if you can actually trust it

[Hunter403]

You're right. Means nothing.
Goddamn wiki and it's open editing

So much useful information, but you never know if you can actually trust it


Dead right. Follow the link to Joel Griffiths. No mention of scoring the winning goal on 08. Clearly an unreliable web site.

[plague]

dead right. Follow the link to joel griffiths. No mention of scoring the winning goal on 08. Clearly an unreliable web site.

#fakenews

[pv4]

Dead right. Follow the link to Joel Griffiths. No mention of scoring the winning goal on 08. Clearly an unreliable web site.

It also says Griff played for Sydney FC. #fnn

[MFKS]

It also says Griff played for Sydney FC. #fnn
Just stop with these ****ing lies

No more

[plague]

CNN is ISIS

[Mark325]

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/josep-gombau-names-australian-u-23-squad-for-the-afc-u-23-championship-qualifiers/1xhc31z9f3o6s11mduiw5ywekd

Clut, Jackson and Cowburn in the 26 player squad, narrows down to 23

[PC14]

Kokko off to have a medical somewhere overseas tomorrow.

[Tommyjet]

Kokko off to have a medical somewhere overseas tomorrow.

Huge news.

[StannyCFCJET]

Source?

[Jeterpool]

Mitch Hughes nbn

[MFKS]

Kokko off to have a medical somewhere overseas tomorrow.

Hopefully he wrapped in bubble wrap for the flight so as not to get hurt and **** this up

How ****ing good is this ??


Bert freeing up a foreigner spot a high paying wage from the salary cap

Let's sign this bloke from La Liga now

[Wilso8948]

NBN also said the club was still interested in Burns. Happily swap Kokko for Burns and free up a visa. Kokko was supposed to be our highest paid player last year

[turbojetfireV8]

Herald's story as well:
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4775379/kokko-explores-overseas-move-photos/?cs=306

Not so sure about Hoff's hype about our pre-season, we actually had a decent one last season, and we were obviously more fit than we'd been before as we could see a game out for a change, I think we'll need to have a proper match up (pre-season against WSW or Smurfs?) to gauge how much more intense and focused we are, till then I won't let my excitement peak too early...

[borat]

Kokko was supposed to be our highest paid player last year

But you don't know that for sure ........... I mean you say you know that, and sure it's been published in the press a bunch of times, but you clearly don't know for an absolute certainty.


One could say, not I, that someone who speculates on the income of players "doesn't know anything"....or so I have heard.

[hawk]

Kokko off to have a medical somewhere overseas tomorrow.

good. We poach Berish.

[borat]

Recruitment Speculation

So Merrick stated earlier in the week 1 that the Visa #10 was going to be outside the cap. Kokko has been reported in the press as on 300k, so that being the case you would suspect we have 350-400k to spend on a marquee (highest paid player). So excluding what we have put aside for the Chinese player, I suspect we have 650-700k to spend on 1-2 players and 2 vacant Visa spots.

If you believe the rumours on Twitter transfer feeds we have made preliminary offers for Vidosic, Burns and Carrusca.

Carrusca is in Adelaide negotiating with their new manager, however its far from certain that he will stay. Carrusca was AUFC marquee last year and Kurz may want to use that money on his Visa signings. In Carrusca's favour is that he now is an Aust citizen and doesn't take a visa spot. Not useful for the Jets but attractive to AUFC. MV are meant to be chasing as well. Marquee money at the Jets and AU is likely to be in cap for MV.

Vidosic has been approached by us, WSW and MV with preliminary offers.

Burns is reportedly negotiating with us, SFC and AU.

Milligan may now be an option as he can't get a work permit and is looking at a deal with MV, Portugal and Denmark

Then there is our South American crapshoot/youtubalooza

[borat]

My preference, and is risky yes, but to go all in for Burns. He has a proven goal scoring record in the HAL and would add a touch of class to there side. Yes he hasn't played nearly enough for Tokyo but considering we have no established scouting network imo its a greater risk signing from Youtube again. if we could sign him for 500-600k then that would be worthwhile (was reportedly pulling 900k at Tokyo)

I wouldn't necessarily replace Kokko with a striker but would look for a No 6/8. Depending on how much is left over, I would strongly consider Mitch Oxborrow. He was classy in the few opportunities he had in Perth and has improved a lot since his last stint at the Jets. He is too good to be in the NPL and will be eventually signed elsewhere. Would give us a cheap but credible option off the bench at a minimum.

[lil_masi]

My preference, and is risky yes, but to go all in for Burns. He has a proven goal scoring record in the HAL and would add a touch of class to there side. Yes he hasn't played nearly enough for Tokyo but considering we have no established scouting network imo its a greater risk signing from Youtube again. if we could sign him for 500-600k then that would be worthwhile (was reportedly pulling 900k at Tokyo)

I wouldn't necessarily replace Kokko with a striker but would look for a No 6/8. Depending on how much is left over, I would strongly consider Mitch Oxborrow. He was classy in the few opportunities he had in Perth and has improved a lot since his last stint at the Jets. He is too good to be in the NPL and will be eventually signed elsewhere. Would give us a cheap but credible option off the bench at a minimum.

Why go for Ox when we have: koutrumbis, cowburn,kanta,uga,brown in that position? If we would add another in that midfield role it should be for a starter better than all of them.

I'd want a 10, burns and wid attacking Chinese. If we had another position to a better 6/8.

[tomo]

Why go for Ox when we have: koutrumbis, cowburn,kanta,uga,brown in that position? If we would add another in that midfield role it should be for a starter better than all of them.

I'd want a 10, burns and wid attacking Chinese. If we had another position to a better 6/8.

Just curious, because i wouldnt mind seeing Burns here too... How would u fit Burns in the front 3rd with O'Donovan, Petratos, Nabboutt, and the apparent South American?
Would u sit Nabbout on the bench and have O'Donovan up front, with the South American as #10, and Dimi and Burns playing wide roles?

Thats just me going off the formation from the past few years. Dont know how Merrick will line them up

[lil_masi]

Just curious, because i wouldnt mind seeing Burns here too... How would u fit Burns in the front 3rd with O'Donovan, Petratos, Nabboutt, and the apparent South American?
Would u sit Nabbout on the bench and have O'Donovan up front, with the South American as #10, and Dimi and Burns playing wide roles?

Thats just me going off the formation from the past few years. Dont know how Merrick will line them up

Thats exactly how I would line them up

[Wilso8948]

But you don't know that for sure ........... I mean you say you know that, and sure it's been published in the press a bunch of times, but you clearly don't know for an absolute certainty.


One could say, not I, that someone who speculates on the income of players "doesn't know anything"....or so I have heard.
Merrick said it on the podcast. Shut up idiot move on from ya little tiff

[hawk]

Speculate all you like, we have squat

[borat]

Why go for Ox when we have: koutrumbis, cowburn,kanta,uga,brown in that position? If we would add another in that midfield role it should be for a starter better than all of them.

I'd want a 10, burns and wid attacking Chinese. If we had another position to a better 6/8.

To afford Burns you would need to spend less on the #10. Burns was on 900k at Tokyo and 400k before that at Wellington (as reported in the press yes Wilso I don't have their tax returns). It going to take 500-600k imo. As Burns is adaptable I don't think it's necessary, but just my opinion.

The Ox would be 3rd in line out of that bunch imo. And as the Brown Uga combination isn't exactly settled it would be good to have a touch of class to push them. It also would allow us to play a 3 man midfield if we wanted.

[borat]

Merrick said it on the podcast. Shut up idiot move on from ya little tiff

All I did was quote you

That you are a merkin with no actual ideas of your own is your problem

[Couscous]

Love your use of merkin there, borat.

I only know what that means because my dog's name when I was a kid was Nerkin. And a kid up the street told me that his mum told him that my dad had given our dog a very rude name and that our family was a "bit odd". So I grew up thinking my dog had a name that meant public hairs or something like that. She didn't, of course, but it took me years to stop feeling ashamed.

I have some tears welling up now as I think back on those years.

Anyway, yeah: merkin. Love this new squad of ours.

[Wilso8948]

All I did was quote you

That you are a merkin with no actual ideas of your own is your problem
You're supposed to be this big forward thinker and you pull out an insult like merkin. I think I'll pass on this round. Cheers.

[leftrightout]

Just curious, because i wouldnt mind seeing Burns here too... How would u fit Burns in the front 3rd with O'Donovan, Petratos, Nabboutt, and the apparent South American?
Would u sit Nabbout on the bench and have O'Donovan up front, with the South American as #10, and Dimi and Burns playing wide roles?

Thats just me going off the formation from the past few years. Dont know how Merrick will line them up

It would be nice for our manager to have that kind of selection headache!

[lil_masi]

Barry Toohey saying kokko off to hong kong. Merrick's connections as HK national coach played a part

[leftrightout]

Huge news! hopefully they now use his spot wisely!

[Grimario]

Stanny would like that. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Wise)

[StannyCFCJET]

Stanny would like that. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Wise)

I love me some Dennis Wise but I'm confused

[Grimario]

Using the spot Wisely.

[Jeterpool]

I love me some Dennis Wise but I'm confused
:facepalm:

[white city]

Is there any gossip/rumour on names to fulfill the remaining spots. South American Marquee?, Kokko replacement?, Chinese triallists?

[Tommyjet]

No chinese trialists at training yet

[The Camel]

Is there any gossip/rumour on names to fulfill the remaining spots. South American Marquee?, Kokko replacement?, Chinese triallists?

Apparently some ex Gypo has been training/trialling with us Jake Adelson?

[Grimario]

He trialled with us a few years ago as well before signing with the scum. Former Everton youth player.

[MFKS]

He trialled with us a few years ago as well before signing with the scum. Former Everton youth player.

He actually played for the Jets Yoof in the NPL for a period

Might have been 2014 or 2015 from memory

Another one of the Sydney kids dragged up dropped in the Yoof with the promise of First team contract but ****ed off 10 weeks later when the bullshit promises didn't eventuate

Not sure what he done at Everton but he had done that before he played with the Jets Yoof team

[hawk]

Apparently some ex Gypo has been training/trialling with us Jake Adelson?

massive

[turbojetfireV8]

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsernie100717.mp4

[plague]

Apparently some ex Gypo has been training/trialling with us Jake Adelson?



wait, not THE Jake Adelson?


Big, if true.

[turbojetfireV8]

Forgot to post this one from last week:
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetshoffman060717.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

we sign any more defenders we'll have no choice but to park the bus all season as we won't have any other options...

[Tommyjet]

we sign any more defenders we'll have no choice but to park the bus all season as we won't have any other options...

Adelson only being looked at incase we need a injury replacement at a latter date

[lil_masi]

Kokko has been unveiled by Eastern FC. Departure prob announced by the jets tomorrow

[Wilso8948]

So with Kokko gone who's everyone keen on? Carusca, Burns, Milligan? Any of these possible?

[The Camel]

So with Kokko gone who's everyone keen on? Carusca, Burns, Milligan? Any of these possible?

All 3 of them I would be happy with :thumbsup:

[hawk]

Kokko has been unveiled by Eastern FC. Departure prob announced by the jets tomorrow

What a Finnish. Didnt even start

[tomo]

So with Kokko gone who's everyone keen on? Carusca, Burns, Milligan? Any of these possible?

Didnt Lawrie say last week on twitter that a player would need to leave before an offer was made to Burns?
Could be a serious option now. Definately an upgrade on Kokko and more versatile

[Mark325]

Didnt Lawrie say last week on twitter that a player would need to leave before an offer was made to Burns?
Could be a serious option now. Definately an upgrade on Kokko and more versatile

Assuming both our new imports (South American and Chinese player) work out, along with burns we'll have a really good team

[tomo]

Assuming both our new imports (South American and Chinese player) work out, along with burns we'll have a really good team

Id like to see a really dominant midfielder come in (Milligan/Paartalu type). But that doesnt seem likely

[MonkeyKplunk]

What a Finnish. Didnt even start

:thumbsup:

[Mark325]

Id like to see a really dominant midfielder come in (Milligan/Paartalu type). But that doesnt seem likely

Yeah I thought similar, when you consider we'll have a fair few dudes up top as is, like if you bring in burns dimi and nabbout both hit the bench assuming the imports work out, and we have youth dudes like kosta and Clut hanging around as well

[hawk]

Need more free players like Kanta. Budget more important than results.

[foti68]

Need more free players like Kanta. Budget more important than results.

wtf

[Jeterpool]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/07/13/uae-club-moves-jets-star-nabbout

Bye bye Nabbout

After looking relatively stable, our already depleted wide stocks, not to mention pacey outlet, aren't looking crash-hot.

Good luck to him, however. That's a great fee for the player too.

[Jetmaster]

Again, I groan at these deals. Nabbout just came back from a deal overseas, had a good season and was on the Socceroos radar. But like several before him, the agent convinces you that one season (in his case part season) makes you a potential superstar.

Will now get the coin but drop off the face of the earth - all about money now unfortunately.

[ForeverRed]

He hated Malaysia, the new destination wouldn't be the best place to live, money money money

[Jeterpool]

Again, I groan at these deals. Nabbout just came back from a deal overseas, had a good season and was on the Socceroos radar. But like several before him, the agent convinces you that one season (in his case part season) makes you a potential superstar.

Will now get the coin but drop off the face of the earth - all about money now unfortunately.

I don't expect his departure will free up a lot of cap space, either.

[belchardo]

in my opinion, good for the bottom line, not good for him (footballing wise), not good for us.

was he really on the socceroos radar though?

[Wilso8948]

I don't expect his departure will free up a lot of cap space, either.

Lee/Lawrie/Co have all stated this is the business plan regarding the Jets. Hence the fight over the buyout clause in Hoole's contract. Its a loss to the squad no doubt if he goes. Business wise though the club picked up a transfer fee from Petratos, who is arguably a better player than Nabbout, got him back anyway and now potentially pocketing a significant transfer fee for a player who was bought for peanuts.

[Grimario]

in my opinion, good for the bottom line, not good for him (footballing wise), not good for us.

was he really on the socceroos radar though?

Why not good for us? Wasn't he basically anonymous for half of the season? It's not like he's a world beater or anything, he had half a good season and 650k and a squad spot to put towards someone better seems pretty decent business to me.

[MonkeyKplunk]

We're being all ho-hum about this, but it's not even a done deal yet.
In the end, both the club and Andrew need to agree to the deal before it's done.

From a club perspective, I think he'll shine under Merrick. Which could mean his stocks go up further by the end of this season.

[StannyCFCJET]

Please stay Nabbout

[MFKS]

Why not good for us? Wasn't he basically anonymous for half of the season? It's not like he's a world beater or anything, he had half a good season and 650k and a squad spot to put towards someone better seems pretty decent business to me.

It actually good for us

This time last week Bert basically had two spots to fill

The Sth America 4th rate Brazillian no 10 plus the Chinese Ribery

Now with Kokko and Nabbout most likely out the door it giving him much greater flexibility in spending the cash

Considering Our Caravan Georgevski and Petratos are Jones signings this really given Bert much better chance to sign his type of players

[steve136]

Why not good for us? Wasn't he basically anonymous for half of the season? It's not like he's a world beater or anything, he had half a good season and 650k and a squad spot to put towards someone better seems pretty decent business to me.

Exactly.

[belchardo]

Why not good for us? Wasn't he basically anonymous for half of the season? It's not like he's a world beater or anything, he had half a good season and 650k and a squad spot to put towards someone better seems pretty decent business to me.

fair points. agree about the anonymity, agree he's not a world beater, and do see the value of the transfer. I do think, however, that he was a good player, was on the improve and at the very least made a very good squad member (although I think he proved over the year that he was good enough to be in the first team).

I guess, ultimately, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. if we get burns now to replace him (or someone equally as good or better), then it is good for us.

[Grimario]

The Sth America 4th rate Brazillian no 10 plus the Chinese Ribery

Libely?

[Jetmaster]

No doubt brilliant business and we may get someone even better. I just feel for these young guys who leave a season early for promised riches. Nabbout had the chance this season to be something special.

Then again, maybe the Nabbout post Coffs was the "true" Nabbout and he had been worked out.

[Grimario]

Definitely won't be Burns.

https://twitter.com/sanfrecce_SFC/status/885318647463399425

Signed with Sanfrecce


We are pleased to announce that Nathan Burns, who belonged to FC Tokyo, has decided to join Sanfrecce Hiroshima with complete transfer.

eal name NATHAN JOEL BURNS
Birthday May 7, 1988 (29 years old)
Birthplace Australia
height, weight 173 cm / 70 kg
position FW
Soccer history 2006 - 2008 Adelaide United FC (Australia)
2008 - 2009 AEK Athens FC (Greece)
2009 - 2010 Kerkyra (Greece)
2010 - 2012 AEK Athens FC (Greece)
2012 - 2013 Incheon United Korea)
2013 - 2014 Newcastle Jets FC (Australia)
2014 - 2015 Wellington Phoenix FC (New Zealand) (A League MVP)
2015 - FC Tokyo
Representative history Australia national international A match 24 games appearance 3 goals
2011 AFC Asian Cup second winner
2015 AFC Asian Cup championship
Entry record
year team League match Cup Fight Emperor 's Cup
2015 FC Tokyo J1 10 games 2 scores 0 games 0 scores 0 scores per game
2016 FC Tokyo J1 16 games 1 score 2 games 0 scores 0 games 0 scores
2017 FC Tokyo J1 0 games 0 scores 4 games 0 scores 0 games 0 scores
total J1 26 games 3 scores 6 games 0 scores 0 scores per game
comment
I am honored that it has become a contract with Sanfrecce Hiroshima which is one of the most successful clubs in Japan and I am able to play for this club.
I will try my best to contribute to the victory by doing my best for the club.
Remarks Nathan Burns will join the team from July 18 (Tue).

[Wilso8948]

What about Harry Novillo. What's he up to these days?

[The Dunster]

Nabbout is always appreciative of the fans support and he also took the losses hard. Best of luck to him in the UAE if the deal goes through.

[steve136]

Nabbout is always appreciative of the fans support and he also took the losses hard. Best of luck to him in the UAE if the deal goes through.

Don't miss him too much. He'll be back playing for Sydney FC before the end of the season when everything goes pear-shaped in the Middle East.

[Jeterpool]

Definitely won't be Burns.

https://twitter.com/sanfrecce_SFC/status/885318647463399425

Signed with Sanfrecce

So...who will we talk about now?

[evanhayes5]

What are everyone thoughts on Harrison Sawyer coming back? For me he was a better option than Kokko, can run all day, which I think would be something in the last quarter of the match, a cheap backup option to ROD, also a Matt Simon type of player.

Carrusca, Cirio, Vidosic, Milligan all still available still as well. Hopefully 2 good foreigners are signed to fill the wide roles

[plague]

Good for the club, although there looks like there's way too many zeros in that transfer figure for the Jets.

Good job Gypo and Mr Ernie.

[Grimario]

So...who will we talk about now?

Is Weak Ankles confirmed with WSW yet?

[Grimario]

So...who will we talk about now?


Carrusca, Cirio, Vidosic, Milligan all still available still as well. Hopefully 2 good foreigners are signed to fill the wide roles

Well, there you go.

[plague]

all about money now unfortunately.

"MAN CHANGES COMPANY AT WORK, POSSIBLY EARNS MORE MONEY"


Oh dear, the horror.

Exactly when did you guys become so damn bitter?

[Grimario]

"MAN CHANGES COMPANY AT WORK, POSSIBLY EARNS MORE MONEY"


Oh dear, the horror.

Exactly when did you guys become so damn bitter?

Aren't Dunster and Jetmaster old enough to remember when you couldn't make a living playing football so people did it for love of the game?


Loyalty is dead and football is nothing about money any more. That's why I am of the opinion that 650k for a bloke who had 5 or 6 good games, 10 or so okay games and a heap of anonymous leftovers is amazing business.

[The Dunster]

Aren't Dunster and Jetmaster old enough to remember when you couldn't make a living playing football so people did it for love of the game?


Loyalty is dead and football is nothing about money any more. That's why I am of the opinion that 650k for a bloke who had 5 or 6 good games, 10 or so okay games and a heap of anonymous leftovers is amazing business.

The old days never existed when it comes to loyalty over money. The best players in most sports all did rather well for themselves even 50 years or more ago. The difference today is that the players wives and children are greedier.

[pv4]

Is Weak Ankles confirmed with WSW yet?

Negative. Rumour was he was signed on the weekend and was meant to be announced on Monday but it went strangely quiet.

They just announced a young midfielder, and have said they will announced a second signing at 330 this arvo. This arvo surely will be Bridge and/or Chris Herd (whom is trialling with them).

[Wilso8948]

What are everyone thoughts on Harrison Sawyer coming back?

Showed more in 60 mins against the gypos than Kokko did all year. Was extremely mobile for a giant.

[plague]

The old days never existed when it comes to loyalty over money. The best players in most sports all did rather well for themselves even 50 years or more ago. The difference today is that the players wives and children are greedier.

Wrong Dunster.

What about old timey guys like Maradona and Keegan. They never moved clubs ever and it certainly wasn't to 'smaller' clubs and it was never for money.

The old timey players all played on Sunday then wrote neat letters to the awesome fans thanking them for supporting the club because back then players only played to keep the fans happy.

Surely you'd be old enough to remember those days, it was back when WSW invented football.

[Jeterpool]

Showed more in 60 mins against the gypos than Kokko did all year. Was extremely mobile for a giant.

He's actually killing it in the QLD NPL. Scored 4 hattricks or something. Basically in the team of the week every other week.

[pv4]

Carrusca, Cirio, Vidosic, Milligan all still available still as well. Hopefully 2 good foreigners are signed to fill the wide roles

Cirio signed for a Spanish 3rd division club.

Milligan has had his desired move to England held up for now as there are visa issues. But as much as I love him, he's not really the type of player we are after (read: he isn't an attacker).

Carrusca I rate, and he is no longer a visa player (which is largely irrelevant to us anyway as we have 3 visa spots available) but I just don't think he fits into Merrick's high intensity, direct style game. But would be happy to be proved wrong.

Vidosic is about to become, or has just become, a father. And him and his mrs are basing themselves in Adelaide for now. He seems as grounded now as I think we will ever see him. Apparently us, WSW and MV have made initial offers for him. I don't think he is in any rush to make a decision.

I still haven't seen confirmation on whether Mitch Austin is contracted to Victory for this upcoming season so he may still be an (imo poor) option.

I've seen Ben Halloran mentioned a bit but outside of a large injured phase, he regularly played for his German second division team last year. I imagine he won't come back.

[Wilso8948]

Milligan has had his desired move to England held up for now as there are visa issues. But as much as I love him, he's not really the type of player we are after (read: he isn't an attacker).

You're kidding right? Whilst I understand we are in the market for more attackers with Kokko leaving and it's been said in the media, surely we'd be keen to look at players far superior to Ugarkovic and Brown for the holding midfield role. Looking at the squad I feel we have ok quality in the front third with no depth and lots of depth with no quality in the midfield. We are still a quality 10 and 6 short of competing in this league.

[The Dunster]

Wrong Dunster.

What about old timey guys like Maradona and Keegan. They never moved clubs ever and it certainly wasn't to 'smaller' clubs and it was never for money.

The old timey players all played on Sunday then wrote neat letters to the awesome fans thanking them for supporting the club because back then players only played to keep the fans happy.

Surely you'd be old enough to remember those days, it was back when WSW invented football.

:wink:

[pv4]

You're kidding right? Whilst I understand we are in the market for more attackers with Kokko leaving and it's been said in the media, surely we'd be keen to look at players far superior to Ugarkovic and Brown for the holding midfield role. Looking at the squad I feel we have ok quality in the front third with no depth and lots of depth with no quality in the midfield. We are still a quality 10 and 6 short of competing in this league.

And Kanta. Don't forget Ernie wants to give Kanta another crack.

Don't get me wrong I love Milligan and think he deserves a spot in any AL team. But before this Nabbout & Kokko news we were publicly after a South American #10 marquee and a Chinese player more than likely an attacker, and that's where most people seemed comfortable going into the season. The club has been pretty clear that after NTS it was all focus on the top end of the field. With Kokko leaving, it made sense we are after a striker replacement for his spot. Nabbout leaving, and we're not after a winger replacement for his spot?

[Wilso8948]

And Kanta. Don't forget Ernie wants to give Kanta another crack.

Don't get me wrong I love Milligan and think he deserves a spot in any AL team. But before this Nabbout & Kokko news we were publicly after a South American #10 marquee and a Chinese player more than likely an attacker, and that's where most people seemed comfortable going into the season. The club has been pretty clear that after NTS it was all focus on the top end of the field. With Kokko leaving, it made sense we are after a striker replacement for his spot. Nabbout leaving, and we're not after a winger replacement for his spot?
Yeh remembered Kanta but put him below those two mentioned. Hence the "lots of depth but no quality" statement. In my opinion we are overlooking the midfield a little when looking at recruitment. Need to replace Nabbout but I'd be disappointed if the club wasn't looking at "Milligan" level midfielders.

[Jetmaster]

"MAN CHANGES COMPANY AT WORK, POSSIBLY EARNS MORE MONEY"


Oh dear, the horror.

Exactly when did you guys become so damn bitter?

I understand that players go for the money now - no problem with that. But will he become a better player? That is what irks me.

I blame Football Manager and FIFA games - the new reality.

VAR just tops it off.

:arse:

[Grimario]

Yeh remembered Kanta but put him below those two mentioned. Hence the "lots of depth but no quality" statement. In my opinion we are overlooking the midfield a little when looking at recruitment. Need to replace Nabbout but I'd be disappointed if the club wasn't looking at "Milligan" level midfielders.

Don't be silly. We now have two of the best passing centre backs in the league, one with right foot and one with left foot. We are going to bypass our low quality great depth midfield with quick transition play.

[plague]

I understand that players go for the money now - no problem with that. But will he become a better player?
:

Have you ever thought that 'becoming a better player' is much lower on his list that 'pay my mortgage/put food on my table'?

Don't criticise the guy because your expectations don't match his.


Also: the players don't go for the money 'now'.

They've always gone for the money.

Those stories you were told as a kid were fables.

[plague]

We now have two of the best passing centre backs in the league, one with right foot and one with left foot. We are going to bypass our low quality great depth midfield with quick transition play.

This is how a PR firm would explain the term 'long ball' to a prospective client................in hell.

[Jetmaster]

Have you ever thought that 'becoming a better player' is much lower on his list that 'pay my mortgage/put food on my table'?

Don't criticise the guy because your expectations don't match his.


Also: the players don't go for the money 'now'.

They've always gone for the money.

Those stories you were told as a kid were fables.

Now Plague, my dear old thing, I am not criticising. Just pining for more innocent days where your dream was to play for your country. Go to Europe yes....Saudi? No.

Bugger....I miss 12 bar boogie too!

[plague]

Just pining for more innocent days where your dream was to play for your country.

Can you point me to when those days were so I can do some reading.

Pretty much my whole life the norm has been to go to work then get paid then if the opportunity came up to get paid more most people took it.

Not sure when that all changed but I'm genuinely interested to find out.

[StannyCFCJET]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/07/13/uae-club-moves-jets-star-nabbout

Bye bye Nabbout

After looking relatively stable, our already depleted wide stocks, not to mention pacey outlet, aren't looking crash-hot.

Good luck to him, however. That's a great fee for the player too.

Lawrie Mckinna replying the TWG on twitter "No offer has come trough to us or his agent" and claims the story isnt true

[Jetmaster]

Can you point me to when those days were so I can do some reading.

Pretty much my whole life the norm has been to go to work then get paid then if the opportunity came up to get paid more most people took it.

Not sure when that all changed but I'm genuinely interested to find out.

I give up mate. I am pretty sure I am not the only one around who has actually knocked back a payrise to work in a better environment. And yes...money is way down my list of priorities, so is working!

[MFKS]

Nathan Burns has signed for Sanfrecce Hiroshima so back to the drawing board on that one boys

[sorefootballer]

Plague you money hungry grub ;)

[plague]

Plague you money hungry grub ;)

aint never met a bad $50 note homie.

ask Hawk, hes owns all of them.

[hawk]

Just drying a few more now. Need a new monorail from Hamo to Newy

[The Dunster]

Can you point me to when those days were so I can do some reading.

Pretty much my whole life the norm has been to go to work then get paid then if the opportunity came up to get paid more most people took it.

Not sure when that all changed but I'm genuinely interested to find out.

It pretty much changed after Nixon closed the gold window and neo-liberalism raised its ugly head. Prior to that people were much more content as jobs were plentiful and more often than not stable.
In recent times deregulation has led to massive swings in income distribution away from labour towards those that own the means of production - and unfortunately unproductive investment such as property.
It's true in a tautological sense that people have always wanted more but what actually constitutes more cannot be simply reduced to dollars - although economic rationalists have conditioned many to think otherwise.
People tend to have a target income and in today's society a bigger portion of the population are not reaching that target - due to changes in income distribution.
Hence, a lot of people will put money at the top of their list until they reach or get close to their income target.
Others, and it's a shrinking cohort will actually have met their target and be trading money for leisure /. other priorities.
Then you have the billionaire class who not only have a lot of money - they also are unable to reach their income target - which is pretty much complete world domination - and then they move onto other galaxies.

[plague]

Others, and it's a shrinking cohort will actually have met their target and be trading money for leisure /. other priorities.


yep, this is where i am (and have always been).
I honestly cant tell you how much i make every year, i work so I can achieve things i desire.

its just that those things cost money, hence why i work for it.

its a vicious cycle i know but strippers just dont like it when you try and stuff a napkin in their g-banger.

[turbojetfireV8]

Then you have the billionaire class who not only have a lot of money - they also are unable to reach their income target - which is pretty much complete world domination - and then they move onto other galaxies.

I thought they became presidents at that point?

[white city]

Any rumour/word on the possible signings to complete the squad.

has all gone a bit quiet...

[MFKS]

Any rumour/word on the possible signings to complete the squad.

has all gone a bit quiet...

I be surprised if our foreigners are here soon

It much much more cost effective to wait to September for them to arrive

[Jeterpool]

Any rumour/word on the possible signings to complete the squad.

has all gone a bit quiet...

There were the tentative Vidosic links the other week in the Herald.

Also, Mark Bridge was rumoured to be re-joining WSW with an announcement early last week. You wonder if there is anthing in the fact it hasn't happened.

Given our 3 spots to fill could all be Visa spots, I'd assume that's how they'll be filled.

[white city]

[QUOTE=Mark Bridge was rumoured to be re-joining WSW with an announcement early last week. You wonder if there is anthing in the fact it hasn't happened.[/QUOTE]

Hope it does happen, don't want him at the Jets, going by a Worldgame article, there are alot of Wanderers fans sharing the same opinion as mine

[Jeterpool]

Hope it does happen, don't want him at the Jets, going by a Worldgame article, there are alot of Wanderers fans sharing the same opinion as mine

WSW fans want or don't want him to re-join?

[white city]

WSW fans want or don't want him to re-join?

Don't want him!

[lil_masi]

Alessi given permission to seek other opportunities

[StannyCFCJET]

Alessi given permission to seek other opportunities

Good will free up more spots on the roster

[Jeterpool]

Alessi given permission to seek other opportunities

Public announcement or from a source?

[Jeterpool]

Good will free up more spots on the roster

A youth contract spot

[MFKS]

Alessi given permission to seek other opportunities

Considering he been here on a 2 year deal and done an ACL straight away I not thinking it going to be easy to ship him out of here

It also interesting to note there is a deal of brutality there if the club are trying to cut their losses now as they don't see him featuring

[hawk]

A youth contract spot

massive

[StannyCFCJET]

A youth contract spot

Is he on a yoof contract?

[Jeterpool]

Is he on a yoof contract?

Yes. He's on a Youth contract - one of the 3 allocated youth players.

[Jeterpool]

massive

Big coin coming our way.

[lil_masi]

This will be mentioned in tomorrow's herald.
He's on a senior contract, and was 1 of the 3 required under 20 players. Since we have more than 3 already u20 signed for nxt season this is not an issue. Just wont free up to much $$. Just a spot.

[plague]

I'm also sure that none of you blokes happy to see a kid shafted after injuring himself on the job are not any of the same blokes who hated on Hoole etc for taking a better deal elsewhere right?

Because you hate it when they leave you but the ones you have no time for are all fine to get the hell out of your beloved club when it suits.

[MFKS]

I'm also sure that none of you blokes happy to see a kid shafted after injuring himself on the job are not any of the same blokes who hated on Hoole etc for taking a better deal elsewhere right?

Because you hate it when they leave you but the ones you have no time for are all fine to get the hell out of your beloved club when it suits.

FFS

Raheem is a ****ing Gypo sell out

There is more than enough reason to hate on him

[evanhayes5]

How the hell is Mark Moric on a scholarship???

[hawk]

Remember we're aiming for 7th. We sweet

[pv4]

I've heard from multiple people that Alessi has been underwhelming in the NPL games he has featured in for the Youth.

[MFKS]

I've heard from multiple people that Alessi has been underwhelming in the NPL games he has featured in for the Youth.
At the age he was and the fact that he had played HAL at 16 it makes you wonder why Popovic released the kid

If he was that good they would have hung on to him to build a defence around until he ****ed off overseas and the WSW cashed in on the transfer fee

The fact that Popovic released him and Shabow doesn't say a lot to me about us getting great players

It says we trying to polish a turd as we are with Clut Jackson etc

[Jeterpool]

I'm also sure that none of you blokes happy to see a kid shafted after injuring himself on the job are not any of the same blokes who hated on Hoole etc for taking a better deal elsewhere right?

Because you hate it when they leave you but the ones you have no time for are all fine to get the hell out of your beloved club when it suits.

Don't necessaily agree Plague. Shafting him would have been putting him out on the curb when the injury happened. The club met their obligations in his rehabilitation and gave him time on the pitch during the NPL system.

Hoole is a bit different. The contract was withdrawn because the terms couldn't be agreed. The similar situation would be Kokko - and I read mixed feelings on how the club handled that.

[plague]

Don't necessaily agree Plague. Shafting him would have been putting him out on the curb when the injury happened. The club met their obligations in his rehabilitation and gave him time on the pitch during the NPL system.

Hoole is a bit different. The contract was withdrawn because the terms couldn't be agreed. The similar situation would be Kokko - and I read mixed feelings on how the club handled that.

Nah I've no problem with the club acting like a business in regards to the young kid.
Nor do I have a problem with any player prioritising his own career over that of the club.

Plenty on here want a bit each way.

[Jeterpool]

Plenty on here want a bit each way.

I think that's fair. The club can't do anything right in the eyes of many.

Balance and perspective is needed

[MFKS]

Nah I've no problem with the club acting like a business in regards to the young kid.
Nor do I have a problem with any player prioritising his own career over that of the club.

Plenty on here want a bit each way.

Raheem rejected the club because he had all these offers in Europe allegedly

Then none of the offers materialise into reality and he ends up on the Gypo Coast

Same bloke walked out on the club before and it was this club that showed loyalty and provided a second opportunity

Loyalty may well be dead these days but the bloke deserves nothing but scorn for his lack of loyalty to the club who have twice given him an opportunity at this level only to have him shaft them to look after himself

Hopefully the club shows the same loyalty next time he comes crawling back and tells him to go take a hike

[plague]

Raheem rejected the club because he had all these offers in Europe allegedly

Then none of the offers materialise into reality and he ends up on the Gypo Coast


The fact you got sucked in by any of this garbage says more about you than Hoole my friend.

[plague]

it was this club that showed loyalty and provided a second opportunity


Nah mate, it was 'this club' who was looking for a winger.

That's the beginning and the end of the 'loyalty' the club showed.

[turbojetfireV8]

Jets mids under scrutiny from Bert:
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4797591/jets-midfield-in-spotlight-against-magic/?cs=306

[turbojetfireV8]

Ruben plans to give Jets run for their money:
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4797728/ruben-to-conjure-a-bit-of-magic/?cs=306

[Jeterpool]

Here are the quotes that prompted my post following the NBN report last night.


He reiterated that his squad was too young and said he had encouraged some players to find new clubs as their opportunities would be limited.

Centre back Daniel Alessi, who was overlooked for youth team defender Pat Langlois against Weston, is understood to be one of those on the outer, although Merrick would not discuss individual players.

“I’m not overly happy yet with the mix in the squad. We’ve got probably 15 players in our squad that are under the age of 24 with not a lot of experience behind them. We’ve got nine under-20s, which is too many.


“It’s really about they fast-track forward quickly or in some cases we’ll have to bring other players in, but we’re moving in the right direction with the signings we’ve made.

“I just think that I have to be honest right from the start of their opportunity to play, and there are some players I’ve had a fairly frank discussion with, and they are contracted, so if they want to stay with the club, that’s fine, but I would think it’s a key age group, below the age of 24, to play regular football, and if there’s an opportunity elsewhere, there’s two or three boys I wouldn’t prevent.

“And that’s not that they’re not good players; it’s just that we’ve got too many of them and we’ve got senior players in their positions so it’s going to be unlikely they play.”

[lil_masi]

Val from the Adelaide Advertiser said Currusca is close to signing with another a-league club. Could it be ours? Think he was linked to Victory at some point too.

Injury-free good player. But he is getting on and still a question mark on his durability. I would be disappointed if we didn't sign someone better.

[Jeterpool]

Val from the Adelaide Advertiser said Currusca is close to signing with another a-league club. Could it be ours? Think he was linked to Victory at some point too.

Injury-free good player. But he is getting on and still a question mark on his durability. I would be disappointed if we didn't sign someone better.

Who needs a CAM? We obviously do. Have the Roar replaced Broich? CCM also have space. WSW even?

[Tommyjet]

Who needs a CAM? We obviously do. Have the Roar replaced Broich? CCM also have space. WSW even?

Roar has ben khalfallah and also under scrutiny for the age of their team as is.
Carrusca is deceptive in terms of his workrate. Cant remember the stat but there was an article about him being up near the top in average kms covered each match. Is prone to the occasional soft tissue injury but used in the right way i think he'd be ideal for us if we could shift one of the plethora of youngins we have. Oz citizen now too.

[Jeterpool]

Roar has ben khalfallah and also under scrutiny for the age of their team as is.
Carrusca is deceptive in terms of his workrate. Cant remember the stat but there was an article about him being up near the top in average kms covered each match. Is prone to the occasional soft tissue injury but used in the right way i think he'd be ideal for us if we could shift one of the plethora of youngins we have. Oz citizen now too.

I picked Kahlfallah to replace Borello or Broich/Oar on the wing. I know he has the ability to play in behind but they could accomodate Carrusca.

The age scrutiny wouldn't be quelled by the signing of Carrusca, you're right.

[Mark325]

Isn't our attacking mid supposed to be some 4th rate Brazilian?

[lil_masi]

I picked Kahlfallah to replace Borello or Broich/Oar on the wing. I know he has the ability to play in behind but they could accomodate Carrusca.

The age scrutiny wouldn't be quelled by the signing of Carrusca, you're right.

Roar's AM is Holman.

Merrick has also said he wants his AM to be a goalscorer as well. I wouldn't call Carrusca a goalscorer.

[Jeterpool]

Roar's AM is Holman.

Merrick has also said he wants his AM to be a goalscorer as well. I wouldn't call Carrusca a goalscorer.

Holman!! Forgot about him.

If it was against us only, I'd call Carrusca a goal-scorer :rof: he's Adelaide's all-time leading scorer in fixtures against us.

[Tommyjet]

Roar's AM is Holman.

Merrick has also said he wants his AM to be a goalscorer as well. I wouldn't call Carrusca a goalscorer.

Merrick has also moved to shift some of tge young players as he thinks we have to many. This would open up a few pozzies for 1 or 2 veterens.

[Jetmaster]

Carlos K. FC is still playing and Ernie loves him.

[Grimario]

Carlos K. FC is still playing and Ernie loves him.

We also have the largest KFC in the Southern Hemisphere, don't we? Would be a huge attraction for King Carlos.

[The Dunster]

Carlos K. FC is still playing and Ernie loves him.

I doubt the defensive midfielders who take on his defensive duties would feel the same though.
He was lazy in his late 20's so at 35 or so now he's going to be well and truly a burden in this league.
In Central America where things are less frantic though he'd probably still be somewhat effective.
Good news though is that he's probably not interested in Australia for family reasons - much like why he left Wellington.

[Mark325]

Saw a video on Facebook today, seems the Chinese trialist has arrived

Seemed to be playing LW, video don't show him really doing anything

[white city]

Saw a video on Facebook today, seems the Chinese trialist has arrived

Seemed to be playing LW, video don't show him really doing anything

it would be good if someone can provide us with some info on these chinese triallists?

[sorefootballer]

They are both male and play football

[evanhayes5]

Saw a video on Facebook today, seems the Chinese trialist has arrived

Seemed to be playing LW, video don't show him really doing anything

link??

[Mark325]

link??

https://m.facebook.com/?_rdr#!/groups/1531095900448336?view=permalink&id=2348348548723063&ref=m_notif&notif_t=group_activity

Hopefully that link works

[GrantB]

The trialist was playing in a left wing role. His name I'd pronounced Tu (as in to) but I have know idea of the correct spelling.

Interesting comment from Ernie. He said that he's looking at a player from South America and an attacking midfield from Europe (as was mentioned in the media), but he wasn't saying anything until they had boots on the ground as he doesn't trust agents. It sounded to me he already had his players.

[Jeterpool]

The trialist was playing in a left wing role. His name I'd pronounced Tu (as in to) but I have know idea of the correct spelling.

Interesting comment from Ernie. He said that he's looking at a player from South America and an attacking midfield from Europe (as was mentioned in the media), but he wasn't saying anything until they had boots on the ground as he doesn't trust agents. It sounded to me he already had his players.

Interesting....thanks for sharing Grant

[lil_masi]

Barry Toohey saying we've signed Jake Adelson. Jimmy Gardner saying we'll need to shed Alessi first

[Jeterpool]

Barry Toohey saying we've signed Jake Adelson. Jimmy Gardner saying we'll need to shed Alessi first

I think Jimmy G is on the money. It would be hypocritical of Ernie Merrick to say "our squad is too imbalanced with youth" and then sign another youth - and a defender to boot, to one of the 3 remaining places without first getting one off the books.

[pv4]

I interpreted Ernie's comments not so much as our squad being too imbalanced with youth, but that we had too many young players whom wouldn't challenge the senior guys for positions.

If we swap Alessi for Adelson, IMO it signals that Alessi was never going to push for a position whereas Adelson has more chance.

[Jeterpool]

I interpreted Ernie's comments not so much as our squad being too imbalanced with youth, but that we had too many young players whom wouldn't challenge the senior guys for positions.

If we swap Alessi for Adelson, IMO it signals that Alessi was never going to push for a position whereas Adelson has more chance.

Fair point.