2017/18 Squad Thread

[lil_masi]

I interpreted Ernie's comments not so much as our squad being too imbalanced with youth, but that we had too many young players whom wouldn't challenge the senior guys for positions.

If we swap Alessi for Adelson, IMO it signals that Alessi was never going to push for a position whereas Adelson has more chance.

It would be Hoff v Adelson. From what people have said from the trials Adelson has been impressive.

[Fairgo]

Adelson was with Jets Youth a couple of years ago after being let go by WSW but could not get game time behind Papas so moved on mid season to the Mariners. Did ACL at end of season 15/16 then again beginning of 16/17. Has not played many games in a couple of years. Very big risk IMO.

[Mark325]

Adelson has been signed for two season.

would've liked us to move Alessi on first considering he is a straight replacement in being the back-up right back

I also wonder, with the signing of this new bloke and having Vujica as an actual left back if that means Cowburn will potentially get game time this season in his actual position which to the best of my knowledge is in the midfield

[Jeterpool]

We now have 6 fullbacks on our books. 6. 26% of our available squad spots on 2 positions.

[Mark325]

We now have 6 fullbacks on our books. 6. 26% of our available squad spots on 2 positions.

who's the 6th one? hoff, georgevski, adelson, vujica and alessi are the only dedicated fullbacks i believe we have

[Jeterpool]

Cowburn

He's made 1 first team.appearance in midfield as a sub. The rest he's been left or right fullback

[GrantB]

We now have 6 fullbacks on our books. 6. 26% of our available squad spots on 2 positions.

So you're saying we shouldn't leak too many goals this season. Please refer to my avatar when considering my comments.:rof

[Mark325]

Cowburn

He's made 1 first team.appearance in midfield as a sub. The rest he's been left or right fullback

In the youth team was he not a midfielder though? I know we've used him in those two positions pretty much exclusively, but he isn't a left back and he's only a serviceable right back.

Depending on how Ernie see's it, we may only have 4 fullbacks come start of the season if he doesn't put Cowburn into those positions and we move on Alessi

Also, don't think anyone talked about him, but did that Pat Langois bloke play alright in the two pre-season games he played?

[turbojetfireV8]

Anyone here of interest?
http://www.a-league.com.au/photo-gallery/hyundai-a-league-transfer-targets-18q5fq2ah3kpu1x242mubbc4t1

[MFKS]

Anyone here of interest?
http://www.a-league.com.au/photo-gallery/hyundai-a-league-transfer-targets-18q5fq2ah3kpu1x242mubbc4t1

Sign Mullen just so Stanny has a meltdown

[StannyCFCJET]

Sign Mullen just so Stanny has a meltdown

I imagine you'd have some choice words member if we resigned him

[cobra23]

Adelson has been signed for two season.

would've liked us to move Alessi on first considering he is a straight replacement in being the back-up right back

I also wonder, with the signing of this new bloke and having Vujica as an actual left back if that means Cowburn will potentially get game time this season in his actual position which to the best of my knowledge is in the midfield

Hopefully cowburn does not get game time in his preferred position. If he does it means we are struggling big time.
A decent player but for me a reserve bench player at best

[StannyCFCJET]

Hopefully cowburn does not get game time in his preferred position. If he does it means we are struggling big time.
A decent player but for me a reserve bench player at best

Gombau thinks otherwise and any player he thinks is socceroos level at any age group, we should be looking to give gametime to

[The Camel]

Anyone here of interest?
http://www.a-league.com.au/photo-gallery/hyundai-a-league-transfer-targets-18q5fq2ah3kpu1x242mubbc4t1

Carrusca especially seeing he's an Aussie citizen now

[Mark325]

Hopefully cowburn does not get game time in his preferred position. If he does it means we are struggling big time.
A decent player but for me a reserve bench player at best

I don't necessarily think he should be on the bench either, but if through injuries and what not the season gets to a point where he is taking up a bench space, I would rather it be for him to come on in the mids then at right back or especially left back

[Imyourhero]

Cowburn couldn't even hold down a midfield spot in a midtable Jets Youth team

[MFKS]

Gombau thinks otherwise and any player he thinks is socceroos level at any age group, we should be looking to give gametime to

Yeah that is the weakest fan boy attitude I have seen

Reason shit players like Jackson Clut and Cowburn are playing for the Junior level NT is the standards are so shit

Blokes at their age can't even hold down a first team spit at this club are NT level players by necessity as the candidates ain't there

Based on your wank logic Moss as he an international should start every game as he a NT player and Duncan isn't??

Has nothing to do with performance or ability etc
Just select blokes based on whether they played for NT at Yoof level or up

Might work well on Football computer games but this the real world

[Jeterpool]

In the youth team was he not a midfielder though? I know we've used him in those two positions pretty much exclusively, but he isn't a left back and he's only a serviceable right back.

Depending on how Ernie see's it, we may only have 4 fullbacks come start of the season if he doesn't put Cowburn into those positions and we move on Alessi

Also, don't think anyone talked about him, but did that Pat Langois bloke play alright in the two pre-season games he played?

And Jamie Carragher was a striker at youth level. Sorry, but he's played 46 of his 47 appearances at fullback. Even for the Olyroos (or whoever it was he went away with) he played fullback. He has to considered a fullback despite what he played in the youth (which I think you're correct in saying he was a midfielder).

You're right, Ernie might have other ideas for him - we will have to wait and see. I agree he was limited as a left back offensively because he kept cutting in.

As for Langlois - not seen any of the pre-seaosn games this year unfortunately but he's getting some time alongside NTS which can't be bad for his development. Hopefully one for the future because it would be good for the Emerging Jets and Youth team to start supplying more to teh first team.

[Mark325]

And Jamie Carragher was a striker at youth level. Sorry, but he's played 46 of his 47 appearances at fullback. Even for the Olyroos (or whoever it was he went away with) he played fullback. He has to considered a fullback despite what he played in the youth (which I think you're correct in saying he was a midfielder).

You're right, Ernie might have other ideas for him - we will have to wait and see. I agree he was limited as a left back offensively because he kept cutting in.

Reason I would like to see him used differently is primarily because, as you said we have 6 fullbacks, even if Alessi is moved on that's still 5 which is one too many.

[StannyCFCJET]

Yeah that is the weakest fan boy attitude I have seen

Reason shit players like Jackson Clut and Cowburn are playing for the Junior level NT is the standards are so shit

Blokes at their age can't even hold down a first team spit at this club are NT level players by necessity as the candidates ain't there

Based on your wank logic Moss as he an international should start every game as he a NT player and Duncan isn't??

Has nothing to do with performance or ability etc
Just select blokes based on whether they played for NT at Yoof level or up

Might work well on Football computer games but this the real world

Luckily for Cowburn he has performed well whenever he plays

[Jeterpool]

Reason I would like to see him used differently is primarily because, as you said we have 6 fullbacks, even if Alessi is moved on that's still 5 which is one too many.

Hopefully for Nick, Ernie has the same approach/consideration as well, because otherwise he could end up being one of those young players he was referring to that need to move to get game time.

[MFKS]

Luckily for Cowburn he has performed well whenever he plays

Performing well??


That well he isn't good enough to nail down a spot at a club as poorly performing as us and people think of him as a bits and pieces utility player

[Wilso8948]

Luckily for Cowburn he has performed well whenever he plays

You clearly didn't watch him play LB. You're mate Mullen did a better job.

[The Dunster]

Can the club just throw a shit load of dollars at Troisi rather than roll the dice with unknown shit from South America ? Troisi is a proven performer, he's versatile, and apart from the shit haircut I cannot see any issues at all.

[Bon]

Can the club just throw a shit load of dollars at Troisi rather than roll the dice with unknown shit from South America ? Troisi is a proven performer, he's versatile, and apart from the shit haircut I cannot see any issues at all.

Pretty sure he just signed for Victree

[StannyCFCJET]

Pretty sure he just signed for Victree

Yeah apparently passed a medical for City but didnt show up for something this morning and has done a backflip

[Jeterpool]

Can the club just throw a shit load of dollars at Troisi rather than roll the dice with unknown shit from South America ? Troisi is a proven performer, he's versatile, and apart from the shit haircut I cannot see any issues at all.

Not Spanish, no good

[StannyCFCJET]

You clearly didn't watch him play LB. You're mate Mullen did a better job.

Oh I did always done well IMO.

[Jeterpool]

Yeah apparently passed a medical for City but didnt show up for something this morning and has done a backflip

Ultimate troll on derby rivals.

More likely, he followed the money

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Pretty sure he just signed for Victree

https://twitter.com/gomvfc/status/890435338539122690

ding ding ding

[StannyCFCJET]

Ultimate troll on derby rivals.

More likely, he followed the money

City were offering Marquee wages and status I heard

[The Dunster]

City were offering Marquee wages and status I heard

Good to see the FFA policing the salary cap .:gent:

[tomo]

And Jamie Carragher was a striker at youth level. Sorry, but he's played 46 of his 47 appearances at fullback. Even for the Olyroos (or whoever it was he went away with) he played fullback. He has to considered a fullback despite what he played in the youth (which I think you're correct in saying he was a midfielder).

You're right, Ernie might have other ideas for him - we will have to wait and see. I agree he was limited as a left back offensively because he kept cutting in.

As for Langlois - not seen any of the pre-seaosn games this year unfortunately but he's getting some time alongside NTS which can't be bad for his development. Hopefully one for the future because it would be good for the Emerging Jets and Youth team to start supplying more to teh first team.

I went to both the Weston and the Magic games, and i was really impressed with Langlios at the back. Very comfortable at the back and under pressure, good ball distribution and cant really remember him making any mistakes. I think he's definately one we should hang on to

[MFKS]

I went to both the Weston and the Magic games, and i was really impressed with Langlios at the back. Very comfortable at the back and under pressure, good ball distribution and cant really remember him making any mistakes. I think he's definately one we should hang on to
Not trying to put shit on the kid

But I want to be seeing him against some better opposition than some midweek pre season matches played at a shit tempo against NPL sides from Newy who onlyget the ball when the Jets cough it up

It ain't like he was put under any great pressure in theae games

FFS I could have played alongside Topor and impressed in these games

[The Dunster]

Not trying to put shit on the kid

But I want to be seeing him against some better opposition than some midweek pre season matches played at a shit tempo against NPL sides from Newy who onlyget the ball when the Jets cough it up

It ain't like he was put under any great pressure in theae games

FFS I could have played alongside Topor and impressed in these games

He's currently playing against some of the best youth players on the planet - some of whom may be household names all over the world in the next few years.

[tomo]

Not trying to put shit on the kid

But I want to be seeing him against some better opposition than some midweek pre season matches played at a shit tempo against NPL sides from Newy who onlyget the ball when the Jets cough it up

It ain't like he was put under any great pressure in theae games

FFS I could have played alongside Topor and impressed in these games

I understand what your saying. But he's only young and was pretty bloody good in both games. Just saying that i think he has definate potential... and maybe we should hang onto him... thats just my opinion of course. If you get a chance, go and have a look at him for yourself and let me know what your thoughts are.

I think he flew over with the youth team so didnt play against the gypos but i agree and would like to see him tested against better opposition

Has anyone seen much of Adelson? Sounds like Ernie thinks he goes alright

[Mark325]

Anyone know anything on this South American player and when he'll be announced? Saw sometime last week that it should be announced soon and all has been quiet since

[Grimario]

Guess we aren't taking the FFA Cup too seriously this year.

[Jeterpool]

Guess we aren't taking the FFA Cup too seriously this year.

Why do you say that?

[Jeterpool]

Anyone know anything on this South American player and when he'll be announced? Saw sometime last week that it should be announced soon and all has been quiet since

James Gardiner was saying a bit on twitter about it last week. he said "Personal terms agreed, finer details to work through"

[Grimario]

Why do you say that?

It's next week and we haven't signed the South American bloke yet.

[lquiquer]

Sneijder would be a good signing....he is 33

[Jeterpool]

Sneijder would be a good signing....he is 33

Sneijder would be an unbelievable signing! He'd be up there with the best marquees in the history of the league

[Jetmaster]

A big if - but if we are transferring someone in from overseas who is not a free agent, the Australian window only opened on Thursday according to Wikipedia.

[MFKS]

James Gardiner was saying a bit on twitter about it last week. he said "Personal terms agreed, finer details to work through"

That be the type of shit like 3rd best car park at Ray Watt and extra holiday leave like Wayne Brown gets??

[Mark325]

James Gardiner was saying a bit on twitter about it last week. he said "Personal terms agreed, finer details to work through"

Ahh okay that would've been what I saw I'd assume

[Mark325]

Sneijder would be a good signing....he is 33

I've now forgotten, but is the South American mean to be a marquee or just a foreigner? Initially I thought the marquee spot was going to the Chinese player but I doubt the bloke we got trialling with us and gonna get that

[pv4]

Melbourne Victory have announced the return of Mark Milligan on a one year marquee contract.

I for one am surprised he has come back to Australia, after basically confirming he would stay abroad.

[MFKS]

Melbourne Victory have announced the return of Mark Milligan on a one year marquee contract.

I for one am surprised he has come back to Australia, after basically confirming he would stay abroad.

So you believe everything written in silly season ??

Didn't some traitor leave us to go to Europe but only ended up at ****ing Gosford ??

[Roundball Enthusiast]

So you believe everything written in silly season ??

Didn't some traitor leave us to go to Europe but only ended up at ****ing Gosford ??

They seem to be pretty accurate this silly season, it seems.

Jimmy G saying talks with our signing have stalled.

[StannyCFCJET]

We 100% need another CM Brown Kanta and Stevie U arnt good enough for a finals finish we need better quality but we don't seem to be looking for one

[Mark325]

Chinese trialist has been sent back home, didn't impress bernie. Things have also completely fallen through on the sth American marquee due to family issues, so we looking again

[StannyCFCJET]

Chinese trialist has been sent back home, didn't impress bernie. Things have also completely fallen through on the sth American marquee due to family issues, so we looking again

Glad Merrick gets to decide which Chinese player signs. Ma lei Lei was kinda forced on us

[hawk]

Chinese trialist has been sent back home, didn't impress bernie. Things have also completely fallen through on the sth American marquee due to family issues, so we looking again

good and good

rather lose with a local squad anyway

[evanhayes5]

We need a right winger, holding midfielder and a striker.

Do any OS Aussies fit this bill?

Only person I can think of that could fill the void as striker and right winger is Mitchell Duke

[Jetmaster]

Only person I can think of that could fill the void as striker and right winger is Mitchell Duke

https://i1.wp.com/picsmine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/WTF-Meme-Wtf-did-i-just-read.jpg?resize=600%2C450

[MFKS]

We need a right winger, holding midfielder and a striker.

Do any OS Aussies fit this bill?

Only person I can think of that could fill the void as striker and right winger is Mitchell Duke

Remember reading something about him playing as a Wing Back for his club

He was back playing after long term injury and was blowing smoke up his arse as he been playing the system Ange is implementing with the NT

That blonde headed bloke bloke who played for Gold Coast and Roar plays right wing

Currently loitering in some Euro 2nd tier waste land

[Jeterpool]

Remember reading something about him playing as a Wing Back for his club

He was back playing after long term injury and was blowing smoke up his arse as he been playing the system Ange is implementing with the NT

That blonde headed bloke bloke who played for Gold Coast and Roar plays right wing

Currently loitering in some Euro 2nd tier waste land

Ban Halloran. Been banging on about him for months. Get Chris Harold to stop the bloke scoring against us. :rof:

According to James Gardiner we will have another spot in the squad within a month as a player is moved on. You'd assume that is Alessi.

[MFKS]

Ban Halloran. Been banging on about him for months. Get Chris Harold to stop the bloke scoring against us. :rof:

According to James Gardiner we will have another spot in the squad within a month as a player is moved on. You'd assume that is Alessi.

Hopefully it Boogaard or Brown

[The Dunster]

Melbourne Victory have announced the return of Mark Milligan on a one year marquee contract.

I for one am surprised he has come back to Australia, after basically confirming he would stay abroad.

So does that mean Troisi is under the salary cap ? If so then Jets management have no excuses for not making him a worthwhile offer.

[lquiquer]

So does that mean Troisi is under the salary cap ? If so then Jets management have no excuses for not making him a worthwhile offer.

Jets management have excuses for everything

[The Dunster]

Jets management have excuses for everything

It would seem that way. And as far as due diligence goes from the FFA it's like the only criteria they had for the Jets new owner is that he wouldn't create a club capable of challenging any of the Sydney or Melbourne teams for a finals berth.

I'd be more than happy to see the club folded because what's currently on offer is simply not worthy of our support.

[MFKS]

It would seem that way. And as far as due diligence goes from the FFA it's like the only criteria they had for the Jets new owner is that he wouldn't create a club capable of challenging any of the Sydney or Melbourne teams for a finals berth.

I'd be more than happy to see the club folded because what's currently on offer is simply not worthy of our support.

It almost seems like they have sold us a lemon in the Chinese Lightsalesman

Exactly what is he offering us ??

It ain't like we got big name signings

Our club is still run on the smell of an oily rag

Tinkler may have been full of shit but he at least have hope that he was trying to get us successful

The approach from Lee is what??

Because 12 months in I not seeing much change


They go got solid owners for Heart and WSW and then just dumped us onto the first person who they could

[Jetmaster]

So does that mean Troisi is under the salary cap ? If so then Jets management have no excuses for not making him a worthwhile offer.

Does Troisi have the same agent as Hoole? Cos the news two months ago was that he rejected a marquee position at Victory as not good enough and was off to get a seven figure wage in Europe.

http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/4706781/melbourne-victory-braced-for-james-troisi-exit-as-talks-stall-over-new-deal-for-socceroo-midfielder/?cs=3674


But as reports surfaced that he was looking for a near seven figure sum as a marquee player - which would put him on a bigger wage than current leading scorer and marquee man Besart Berisha - many amongst the club's fan base began to wonder whether he was worth it or whether such a sum, spent elsewhere, might bring greater value next year.

These are the sort of things that make you wonder what goes on behind closed doors with City, Smurfs, Victory and the FFA. It's like the FFA rushed Troisi on the Cahill rule and then killed it the next day - something stinks if he is within the cap.

Be fair to the Jets and others of their ilk - it isn't a fair playing field any more.


and then just dumped us onto the first person who they could

Incorrect - remember Stephen Thompson?

[The Dunster]

The FFA need to follow the lead of the MLS and start publishing player wages. Because until that happens the salary cap might as well not even exist.

[MFKS]

Does Troisi have the same agent as Hoole? Cos the news two months ago was that he rejected a marquee position at Victory as not good enough and was off to get a seven figure wage in Europe.

http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/4706781/melbourne-victory-braced-for-james-troisi-exit-as-talks-stall-over-new-deal-for-socceroo-midfielder/?cs=3674



These are the sort of things that make you wonder what goes on behind closed doors with City, Smurfs, Victory and the FFA. It's like the FFA rushed Troisi on the Cahill rule and then killed it the next day - something stinks if he is within the cap.

Be fair to the Jets and others of their ilk - it isn't a fair playing field any more.



Incorrect - remember Stephen Thompson?

They didn't dump him on to us

The bloke didn't have the cash to fund us that why it never eventuated

The salary cap was a farce the day the FFA changed the rules to allow Olyroo Allowance just so the Smurfs could fit weak ankles and Disco Stu under the cap

It been progressively much worse each year going more and more to the Sydney Melbourne clubs at the expense of the rest

Quite frankly it actually benefits them more by keeping it as it gives them a significant leg up and keeps wages high for shit players at the other clubs

They would be more in favour of keeping it than anyone else

[lquiquer]

Why did Mr Lee buy the Jets?.... that I would really like to know.......

[Frodo]

Why did Mr Lee buy the Jets?.... that I would really like to know.......

Portfolio increase. Simple.

[Frodo]

Mr Lee is paying the bills, so i can't really complain. This is exactly what i expected from whoever bought us at this stage, in 5 years time i'll make a decision on Mr Lee so until then if we have the choice between wooden spoons and not having a club to support then so be it. I'd rather lose every game for the next 10 years than follow the Gypos.

[hawk]

Mr Lee is paying the bills, so i can't really complain. .

No no no. An owner needs to see a marked improvement or fk right off. There has always been options for ownership. The best being not tight rich cvnts but fat bastards hoole spend and win for the love not some tight wad feel good twat

[turbojetfireV8]

is he a suitable replacement?
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4849879/bowling-lends-helping-hand-at-jets/?cs=306

[Jetmaster]

Just possibly, Lee might start realising the Chinese concept as he sees it is a dead duck.
By all means send some Youth out for development but if there are no seniors up to scratch....

[Tommyjet]

Sydney just signed a 30yo, 41 cap polish international to a 3 year contract under the cap. Meanwhile we are still in talks with..............

[Jeterpool]

A player that we have to sign and integrate over the next 2 months?

[The Dunster]

Just possibly, Lee might start realising the Chinese concept as he sees it is a dead duck.
By all means send some Youth out for development but if there are no seniors up to scratch....

Zhu Zhengyu who trialled here is signed to a top three Chinese Super League team but has never actually played a proper match for them. He's been loaned out to a 2nd tier Serbian league team where he played three games, then loaned out again to a 2nd tier Chinese team.

My question here is why did they even trial the bloke ? At the very least we'd need a bloke who is killing it in the 2nd tier of Serbian or Chinese football, not someone who struggles to even get a game.

I'm looking forward to seeing the Jets being comprehensively flogged by their opposition this year. [And I'm not being sarcastic either]. This club needs to really bottom out hard so maybe someone will finally take notice and say things really need to change.

People will soon see that Mark Jones was not the problem - he was just a convenient excuse to mask the fact the club doesn't spend enough to be competitive.

[MFKS]

Zhu Zhengyu who trialled here is signed to a top three Chinese Super League team but has never actually played a proper match for them. He's been loaned out to a 2nd tier Serbian league team where he played three games, then loaned out again to a 2nd tier Chinese team.

My question here is why did they even trial the bloke ? At the very least we'd need a bloke who is killing it in the 2nd tier of Serbian or Chinese football, not someone who struggles to even get a game.

I'm looking forward to seeing the Jets being comprehensively flogged by their opposition this year. [And I'm not being sarcastic either]. This club needs to really bottom out hard so maybe someone will finally take notice and say things really need to change.

People will soon see that Mark Jones was not the problem - he was just a convenient excuse to mask the fact the club doesn't spend enough to be competitive.

I was saying that Jones was not the problem all season last year

And it taken to now to finally get someone to agree

[turbojetfireV8]

Jones was the problem, and symptomatic of the larger problem of jobs for the boys and give a mate/local a go attitude even if they haven't done anything to show they are up to the task. Jones totally phucked the team from having a chance to get into the six, to handing Newcastle another spoon because he had no plan B and couldn't make a strategic sub if his life depended on it. I'm going to give Bert a chance because he isn't a local so will hopefully not put up with the mentality, but appointing someone as goalkeeping coach just because he lived near where Jones grew up isn't good enough, Bowling needs to show he's a hidden genius or get a real GK coach in, no more jobs for someone's nephew...

[MFKS]

Jones was the problem, and symptomatic of the larger problem of jobs for the boys and give a mate/local a go attitude even if they haven't done anything to show they are up to the task. Jones totally phucked the team from having a chance to get into the six, to handing Newcastle another spoon because he had no plan B and couldn't make a strategic sub if his life depended on it. I'm going to give Bert a chance because he isn't a local so will hopefully not put up with the mentality, but appointing someone as goalkeeping coach just because he lived near where Jones grew up isn't good enough, Bowling needs to show he's a hidden genius or get a real GK coach in, no more jobs for someone's nephew...

Agree with the bit about jobs for the boys giving a local a go mentality

I wish Bert all the best but I don't see him un farking us anytime soon

This is a 2-3 year job not a quick fix

We don't make the semis this year AGAIN and the lynch mob will be out calling for Bert's head

Look at what we done this off season

Yeah we bought a couple of OK players in to the club in Petratos and Georgevski and our Caravan

But so has every other club

Looking at others recruiting we still 8th -10th in the League

Jones was never the problem

Just as Bert won't be the problem this season

[The Dunster]

Jones was the problem, and symptomatic of the larger problem of jobs for the boys and give a mate/local a go attitude even if they haven't done anything to show they are up to the task. Jones totally phucked the team from having a chance to get into the six, to handing Newcastle another spoon because he had no plan B and couldn't make a strategic sub if his life depended on it. I'm going to give Bert a chance because he isn't a local so will hopefully not put up with the mentality, but appointing someone as goalkeeping coach just because he lived near where Jones grew up isn't good enough, Bowling needs to show he's a hidden genius or get a real GK coach in, no more jobs for someone's nephew...

I think you are confusing jobs for the boys with getting the cheapest available person for the job.

Not spending enough coin is the issue - saying it's about Jobs for the boys is simply ridiculous unless Jones was getting paid top dollar for his appointment - which it's pretty obvious he wasn't - as they would not have been so eager to punt him at the end of the season.

Merrick got the nod here because he's out of favour as a coach and would have signed up for not a lot of coin. It was never about him being the best man for the job - His failure to get Wellington anywhere when they spent as much as Sydney and Melbourne - pretty much stamped him as not able to cut it anymore at this level. Nobody else wanted him, he was available cheap - Jets signed him. Game Over.

[lquiquer]

I am more and more convinced we will not get a marquée... we might get a pretend marquee ( a Kokko kind of marquee)... there was never a South American in the picture (keep in mind we prob have better health care here than Brazil) ..... Mr Lee never said there was money available..... and once again they selling us a dream...... cynical? Yeah can't help it... don't trust the gypo CEO

[380]

I am more and more convinced we will not get a marquée... we might get a pretend marquee ( a Kokko kind of marquee)... there was never a South American in the picture (keep in mind we prob have better health care here than Brazil) ..... Mr Lee never said there was money available..... and once again they selling us a dream...... cynical? Yeah can't help it... don't trust the gypo CEO

Yep and as always about the time auto renewals take place or people have the opportunity to advise the club of opting out.

[pv4]

I think you are confusing jobs for the boys with getting the cheapest available person for the job.

Not spending enough coin is the issue - saying it's about Jobs for the boys is simply ridiculous unless Jones was getting paid top dollar for his appointment - which it's pretty obvious he wasn't - as they would not have been so eager to punt him at the end of the season.

Merrick got the nod here because he's out of favour as a coach and would have signed up for not a lot of coin. It was never about him being the best man for the job - His failure to get Wellington anywhere when they spent as much as Sydney and Melbourne - pretty much stamped him as not able to cut it anymore at this level. Nobody else wanted him, he was available cheap - Jets signed him. Game Over.

I also think with higher priced coaches comes higher priced demands. Things like coaches wanting to bring their own staff with them, demanding budget of a certain amount to get certain players, etc. There's lots of factors that would go into it. I think one of the big reasons Merrick was brought on was it seems like he has been happy to come in on his own and work with the existing setup for the most part.

tl;dr - Deans out

[hawk]

Newcastle Jets: Owner Martin Lee to increase budget for a 'special' player 25 Aug 2017

If he's as special as my fried rice I will stoked.

[turbojetfireV8]

If he's as special as my fried rice I will stoked.
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4880254/jets-seeking-special-player/?cs=306

[Jetmaster]

Can't wait to unveil "The Special One".

[MFKS]

Can't wait to unveil "The Special One".

Hopefully Griff is making a comeback

Let's just throw all the cash at him and live the dream

[plague]

Y'all saw the word 'if' in that article right?

That should be enough to answer all your questions.

[hawk]

Y'all saw the word 'if' in that article right?

That should be enough to answer all your questions.

Oi. We demand quality players and if not, well, you know what will happen

[evanhayes5]

Brymora signed with Millwall ressies, actually liked the look of him, thought he may have got more minutes last season

[Jeterpool]

Oi. We demand quality players and if not, well, you know what will happen

We'll suck it up and go to the game and sit in silence?

[baldrick]

We'll suck it up and go to the game and sit in silence?

:thumbsup:

[MFKS]

We'll suck it up and go to the game and sit in silence and lose as we usually do??
Fixed

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Brymora signed with Millwall ressies, actually liked the look of him, thought he may have got more minutes last season

I reckon Ernie would have rated him, bit like hes giving Champness a go atm

[hawk]

boring.... need massive news

https://cdn-s3.si.com/styles/swimsuit_collection_tall/s3/images/SWIM146_TK2_08502-rawWMFinal1920.jpg?itok=OGN714Ow

[The Dunster]

Clubs not signing anyone of note , so might as well go fishing.

http://morningmoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/hot-girls-fishing-7.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/31/5c/48/315c48e92219f9b3033319d0bd717feb.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f8/b9/c1/f8b9c1ade7056f0805b2fd938d9bc668.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/44/a3/f2/44a3f23c9e011905b60951dc56e84514--girl-fishing-women-fishing.jpg

[Jetmaster]

Me at PC to wife...."Was just looking to see if the Jets had signed anyone....really.....yes it is a football site....honest...I'll turn it off."

[StannyCFCJET]

Me at PC to wife...."Was just looking to see if the Jets had signed anyone....really.....yes it is a football site....honest...I'll turn it off."

Hahaha

[The Dunster]

Me at PC to wife...."Was just looking to see if the Jets had signed anyone....really.....yes it is a football site....honest...I'll turn it off."
Five star post.

[hawk]

ha, would read again.

Seriously, there be more sportz chat if there are no signings. Blame the Jest man

[Bon]

Dunster and hawk, as always, love your work..



Me at PC to wife...."Was just looking to see if the Jets had signed anyone....really.....yes it is a football site....honest...I'll turn it off."

:lulzturtle:

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Thanks for the pics lads, wen't down real well at work. :thumbsup:

In other news, other clubs signed internationals.. Where is ours????????????????????

[lquiquer]

By the way the CEO said on twitter hopefully we sign someone today or tomorrow

[plague]

By the way the CEO said on twitter hopefully we sign someone today or tomorrow

Yep, your new goalkeeping coach.

Drink it in boiz.

[Bon]

Yep, your new goalkeeping coach.

Drink it in boiz.

I don't know what the correlation is, but I just really want to go fishing...

[380]

By the way the CEO said on twitter hopefully we sign someone today or tomorrow

Some unknown whose knees have seen better days no doubt. A friend of our Gypo CEO looking for there final pay cheque because there is no job opportunity in the office.

[MFKS]

By the way the CEO said on twitter hopefully we sign someone today or tomorrow

Archie Thompson coming out of retirement

Gypo CEO in Melbourne last night to seal his signature

[white city]

McKinna posted on a twitter we are set to announce a signing in a day or so......

anyone have anymore inside knowledge of who it may be?

[lquiquer]

McKinna posted on a twitter we are set to announce a signing in a day or so......

anyone have anymore inside knowledge of who it may be?

don't you read previous posts?

[white city]

don't you read previous posts?

yep sorry i didnt. relax...

still doesn't answer the question

[hawk]

See, post pics get a signing

[Jeterpool]

See, post pics get a signing

Does the picture "quality" correlate to the signing's ability? Interesting to see

[MFKS]

Does the picture "quality" correlate to the signing's ability? Interesting to see

Prefer it actually correlates to actual performance rather than alleged ability

[Roundball Enthusiast]

So it didnt happen yesterday, I wonder if its today... If its not, we'll know the CEO is full of it.

[Tommyjet]

McKinna posted on a twitter we are set to announce a signing in a day or so......

anyone have anymore inside knowledge of who it may be?

Ive noticed with merrick in charge a lot less rumouring and definitely a less people 'in the know'. With previous managers, if we are signing someone today or in the next couple of days, james gardiner and/or ray gatt would have had his name on twitter by now. Merrick certainly a lot less transparent than previous managers, which i dont mind personally.

[Jeterpool]

Still no word of a signing...

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Still no word of a signing...

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[sorefootballer]

Carn Ernie throw us a name. Don't just say it'll be one or 2 days and then turns out to be another week. Stop fking with us.

[MFKS]

Carn Ernie throw us a name. Don't just say it'll be one or 2 days and then turns out to be another week. Stop fking with us.

Bert??

WTF has it got to do with him??

It was the Gypo CEO who made the announcement that there would be a signing yesterday or today

Gypo CEO is Full of shit would be how I would put it

[sorefootballer]

Yeah I meant McKinna. My bad

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Still no word of a signing...

soon™

[Bon]

soon™

6 to 8 weeks?

[Tommyjet]

Anyone else think this signing may be held back and unveiled at the game tomorrow?

[Verified Plastic]

Anyone else think this signing may be held back and unveiled at the game tomorrow?

I think it's more likely a classic Jets move of announcing an announcement before the ink is dry and then pretending they never said anything when it falls apart.

[MonkeyKplunk]

Bert??

WTF has it got to do with him??


No idea what the ****ing coach would have to do with a new signing... makes absolutely no sense to me

[Frodo]

It was probably our new Chinese Messi but Merrick is playing hard to get and won't let it happen.

Which will lead to Merrick being sacked a week out before the season and McKinna just appointing himself as coach for the rest of the year.

True Story:lulz:

[MonkeyKplunk]

It was probably our new Chinese Messi but Merrick is playing hard to get and won't let it happen.

Which will lead to Merrick being sacked a week out before the season and McKinna just appointing himself as coach for the rest of the year.

True Story:lulz:

Can I get some Sportsbet odds on this?

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Can I get some Sportsbet odds on this?

1:1

[lquiquer]

No new signing but at least a new big screen to better watch our current players mistakes....http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4910261/new-screen-for-stadium/?cs=305

[Jeterpool]

I think it's more likely a classic Jets move of announcing an announcement before the ink is dry and then pretending they never said anything when it falls apart.

I think you're on the money.

Where is Foti68? They usually have the inside scoop.

[Jetmaster]

Good to see us upgrade from cathode ray to plasma.

[lquiquer]

I really hope we don't win tomorrow or even draw. If we do that will be the perfect excuse to tell us we don't need marquees ......blah blah blah...... I actually hope we loose 6 or 7 nil.....then they won't have any other choice to accept that we don't have a top 6 squad....

[Roundball Enthusiast]

https://twitter.com/LawrieMcKinna/status/906082977049829376

4 week left boys. No more 2 or so days.

[plague]

i just went to that gypos twitterface page and you only need to look at his 'pinned' tweet to know exactly where his loyalties lie.

its a small thing i know but man oh man if you're trying to win over the faithful its probably not the way to do it.














on a personal level though its exactly what id do but at least i admit how much of an asshole i am

[q-money]

i just went to that gypos twitterface page and you only need to look at his 'pinned' tweet to know exactly where his loyalties lie.

its a small thing i know but man oh man if you're trying to win over the faithful its probably not the way to do it.














on a personal level though its exactly what id do but at least i admit how much of an asshole i am

fkn outrageous

[sorefootballer]

Man McKinna (not Bert) is a goose, why gee the faithful and not so faithful up about a signing that is going to happen? Then stay quiet until someone asks him wtf is going on? This is not the first time this has happened. I was hoping for some good things to come this season... All I am seeing and hearing is the same old shit. I would never ever support anyone else but **** me throw us a bone

[The Dunster]

McKinna needs to be shown the door. Problem is I doubt that anyone capable of doing his job would wish to work for our current owner based on past events.

[MFKS]

Man McKinna (not Bert) is a goose, why gee the faithful and not so faithful up about a signing that is going to happen? Then stay quiet until someone asks him wtf is going on? This is not the first time this has happened. I was hoping for some good things to come this season... All I am seeing and hearing is the same old shit. I would never ever support anyone else but **** me throw us a bone

I thought he was throwing us a bone with his impending signing shit he posted??

His use of social media to converse with fans is a great idea in principle

Problem is that type of shit is where good will is lost

Stuff like that he needs to shut up about and announce properly when signed and sealed

Blokes probably got a confidentiality agreement of sorts and may be best to try living up to it and stop starting rumours and bullshit with the club

[turbojetfireV8]

coupla days?? maybe Lawrie is channelling Con...

[foti68]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4913425/jets-close-to-signing-south-american-import/?cs=306
Apparently we are close to announcing a new signing

[Jeterpool]

Has anyone else taken notice of Hoffman's absence from the starting line up in the last few friendlies?

Also, I assume we are still working on letting some young players go. No Devante Clut on the weekend despite his 2 goals in the last game and his direct competition for the spot scored

[MFKS]

Has anyone else taken notice of Hoffman's absence from the starting line up in the last few friendlies?

Also, I assume we are still working on letting some young players go. No Devante Clut on the weekend despite his 2 goals in the last game and his direct competition for the spot scored

Bert isn't a fool

His non selection of Hoffman is just proof he sees that Hoffman is average and he needs better

So he is playing Georgevski at RB and giving Vujica the chance at Left Back to nail down a spot

It actually a positive as having a competent left back in this comp is a great thing

[Verified Plastic]

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4913425/jets-close-to-signing-south-american-import/?cs=306
Apparently we are close to announcing a new signing

I'll believe it when I see a promo with the new player in a jersey. The Jets need to stop announcing announcements before the deal is done because most of the time it falls through. It just pisses people off.

[Grimario]

Bert isn't a fool

His non selection of Hoffman is just proof he sees that Hoffman is average and he needs better

So he is playing Georgevski at RB and giving Vujica the chance at Left Back to nail down a spot

It actually a positive as having a competent left back in this comp is a great thing

A left footed left back at that. Georgievski is a fantastic left back but right footed, so happy with Merrick going for this set up.

[Jetmaster]

I'll believe it when I see a promo with the new player in a jersey. The Jets need to stop announcing announcements before the deal is done because most of the time it falls through. It just pisses people off.

Jets haven't announced anything....


The Newcastle Jets could have a new South American attacking midfielder on deck as early as this week but are being careful about getting their hopes up after missing out on an earlier target.

It is understood the deal is close to being sealed, but the club was in a similar position a month ago before the player pulled out due to a family health problem.

It is understood the new signing may not be a marquee player outside the A-League salary cap.

If he does arrive, the Jets will have one vacancy on their roster for a Chinese player, unless they can move on a player not in coach Ernie Merrick’s plans.

Sounds like someone getting a scrap of info and trying to make a story out of it.

[PC14]

Jets haven't announced anything....



Sounds like someone getting a scrap of info and trying to make a story out of it.

Lawrie tweeting over the weekend that they're close and were hopeful to wrap one or two up over the weekend. May be the small lead they needed for an article.

[Verified Plastic]

Jets haven't announced anything....



Sounds like someone getting a scrap of info and trying to make a story out of it.

Semantics. Lawrie needs to keep his gypo mouth shut if he doesn't have anything to actually announce. The scrap of info came form somewhere; likely from Lawrie's twitter feed last week.

[Tommyjet]

Imo leave the chinese signing till january, use the 2 other foreign spots now and clear out some 'deadwood' between no and jan to fit the chinese in.

[plague]

I'll believe it when I see a promo with the new player in a terrible jersey.

You left out a little detail there but all good I fixed it.

[Jeterpool]

Lawrie tweeting over the weekend that they're close and were hopeful to wrap one or two up over the weekend. May be the small lead they needed for an article.

If it's two, that will complete the squad

[StannyCFCJET]

Has anyone else taken notice of Hoffman's absence from the starting line up in the last few friendlies?

Also, I assume we are still working on letting some young players go. No Devante Clut on the weekend despite his 2 goals in the last game and his direct competition for the spot scored

Merrick impressed with Vujica ive heard

[StannyCFCJET]

Bert isn't a fool

His non selection of Hoffman is just proof he sees that Hoffman is average and he needs better

So he is playing Georgevski at RB and giving Vujica the chance at Left Back to nail down a spot

It actually a positive as having a competent left back in this comp is a great thing

Geogevski is a Natural RB as well

[lquiquer]

I thought Shabow did good when he came on

[matty]

Patty Rodriguez from AEK to NEWCASTLE.

[noremac]

Patty Rodriguez from AEK to NEWCASTLE.
Source?

[matty]

bbq thanks

[turbojetfireV8]

welcome Pato if it is

[baldrick]

Patty Rodriguez from AEK to NEWCASTLE.

If he's as good as his big brother Milton, we're set.

[Tommyjet]

Very good dribbler

[GazFish35]

EPL window is closed though

[Hunter403]

Very good dribbler

That applies to everyone here....

[Tommyjet]

That applies to everyone here....

Very true

[Bon]

EPL window is closed though

:lulzturtle:

[plague]

Blokes done nothing.
Do we really need someone messing up our winning combination.
Panic move.
Patty OUT.
etc etc etc.

[Bon]

Just saw this on TWG..

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/09/12/newcastle-jets-set-sign-argentine-star

[lquiquer]

Just saw this on TWG..

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/09/12/newcastle-jets-set-sign-argentine-star

They quick to call a player a star..!!!!

[plague]

Just saw this on TWG..

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/09/12/newcastle-jets-set-sign-argentine-star

Two assists on debut ALREADY A MUCH BETTER PLAYER THAN TRIFUNOVIC.


Expect him to sign for Sydney FC by Friday.

[Tommyjet]

Nbn fella now saying on twitter that the jets are downplaying the rumour a bit and saying patito isnt the number 1 target.

[lil_masi]

Nbn fella now saying on twitter that the jets are downplaying the rumour a bit and saying patito isnt the number 1 target.

Get patito on the left and then get a foreign #10. I'll be happy with that.

[Grimario]

Neither of them Chinese.

[lil_masi]

Neither of them Chinese.

Release a player (like it's been talked about) and then sign a chinese player in Jan to keep Ledman happy.

[StannyCFCJET]

Release a player (like it's been talked about) and then sign a chinese player in Jan to keep Ledman happy.

Has to be Alessi or Clut I reckon and I doubt either of them are keen to leave


Edit: I'm only going off pre season appearances

[Tommyjet]

Get patito on the left and then get a foreign #10. I'll be happy with that.

I want another striker, one that can also play on the wing if necessary. Im happy with patito/petratos/ brown at the 10

[MFKS]

Two assists on debut ALREADY A MUCH BETTER PLAYER THAN TRIFUNOVIC.


Expect him to sign for Sydney FC by Friday.

25 appearances in 2 years

Blokes been over worked compared to the injury riddled has been we sign

[MonkeyKplunk]

I swear we just release the names of these players so other clubs know whos looking around.

[lil_masi]

Merrick's pulled the pin on signing Pato.
http://www.sportingnews.com/soccer/news/the-covert-agent-turmoil-at-newcastle-jets---merrick-pulls-pin-on-patito-rodriguez/19uq0t1unt3nf1a3n8zrfq0ecn?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[lquiquer]

Merrick's pulled the pin on signing Pato.
http://www.sportingnews.com/soccer/news/the-covert-agent-turmoil-at-newcastle-jets---merrick-pulls-pin-on-patito-rodriguez/19uq0t1unt3nf1a3n8zrfq0ecn?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

I love ❤️ the Jets ... :wub::wub:

[StannyCFCJET]

Merrick's pulled the pin on signing Pato.
http://www.sportingnews.com/soccer/news/the-covert-agent-turmoil-at-newcastle-jets---merrick-pulls-pin-on-patito-rodriguez/19uq0t1unt3nf1a3n8zrfq0ecn?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Would love to know Merrick's reasoning

[sorefootballer]

Haha, can't script this shit

[Tommyjet]

Hopefully that just means he has struck a deal with the other option, rumoured to be a Venezuelan.

[turbojetfireV8]

Hopefully that just means he has struck a deal with the other option, rumoured to be a Venezuelan.
but no names mentioned
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4919164/jets-set-to-strike-on-marquee/?cs=306

[Tommyjet]

but no names mentioned
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4919164/jets-set-to-strike-on-marquee/?cs=306

Hopefully its ronald vargas

[MonkeyKplunk]

3 weeks before season start and Merrick pulls that.
Takes balls considering what happened this time last year.

[lil_masi]

The herald article says out of Patito and the others they are looking at they will chose the best fit for the team. Maybe Merrick reconsidered who would be the best fit.
The Patito story blew up because it was leaked in the Greek media and then everyone here got on it. Otherwise we would have been non the wiser.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Good to see we're willing to fork out 3/4 a mil on a marquee though, sounds positive.

Hopefully the caliber is there though.

[The Dunster]

Merrick might be getting frustrated having not had to deal with a salary cap or player budgets at is previous appointments.

RodrÃ*guez also missed 4 games with a Malleolar injury this year and had 68 days off in 2015 due to injury. Merrick might rightly see him as a risk.

If you look at his value as a player pre 2015 injury and post the injury Rodriguez is certainly a player in decline - even at a relatively young age.

Then you look at how small he is and he's going to struggle in a physical league unless he can compensate with agility / speed - which he appears to have lost. since 2015.

[plague]

Merrick might be getting frustrated having not had to deal with a salary cap or player budgets at is previous appointments.

RodrÃ*guez also missed 4 games with a Malleolar injury this year and had 68 days off in 2015 due to injury. Merrick might rightly see him as a risk.

If you look at his value as a player pre 2015 injury and post the injury Rodriguez is certainly a player in decline - even at a relatively young age.

Then you look at how small he is and he's going to struggle in a physical league unless he can compensate with agility / speed - which he appears to have lost. since 2015.

Yeah but played with Neymar so yeah.

[Jeterpool]

Merrick might be getting frustrated having not had to deal with a salary cap or player budgets at is previous appointments.

RodrÃ*guez also missed 4 games with a Malleolar injury this year and had 68 days off in 2015 due to injury. Merrick might rightly see him as a risk.

If you look at his value as a player pre 2015 injury and post the injury Rodriguez is certainly a player in decline - even at a relatively young age.

Then you look at how small he is and he's going to struggle in a physical league unless he can compensate with agility / speed - which he appears to have lost. since 2015.

Sounds more and more like a Denni, Ribiero type player, doesn't he. Not saying he can't adapy, and not saying they didn't, but he sounds in the mould of these players.

[Tommyjet]

Sounds more and more like a Denni, Ribiero type player, doesn't he. Not saying he can't adapy, and not saying they didn't, but he sounds in the mould of these players.

Dont agree. This guy may be falling but from a much higher level then the 2 you mentioned ever reached

[Jeterpool]

Dont agree. This guy may be falling but from a much higher level then the 2 you mentioned ever reached

I'll go with your opinion there - I haven't done any reading on the player. I'm just trying to gauge some sort of comparison in my head

[lquiquer]

I'll go with your opinion there - I haven't done any reading on the player. I'm just trying to gauge some sort of comparison in my head

It's hard to know. Look at Fornaroli, his stats were not great before City....

[lil_masi]

I'll go with your opinion there - I haven't done any reading on the player. I'm just trying to gauge some sort of comparison in my head

While doing some research on Pato I came across an article of Argentina's top 20 unfulfilled talents. One of the comments said it was missing Pato.
Also saw an article saying Man U were interesting in him in 2011. Don't know how bogus the article was.

[MFKS]

Merrick's pulled the pin on signing Pato.
http://www.sportingnews.com/soccer/news/the-covert-agent-turmoil-at-newcastle-jets---merrick-pulls-pin-on-patito-rodriguez/19uq0t1unt3nf1a3n8zrfq0ecn?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

What is his agent moaning about??

Until the contract is ****ing signed then it just all negotiation

Either side can pull out at any time


Usually it the player

This time it the club

Seems like the parasite is blowing up mainly because Bert has cost him a pay day and now he stuck trying to find Rodriguez a new deal elsewhere to get paid

Anyway good to see we not settling for any old **** who will do

Good to see Bert is selective and letting balls go.through to the keeper

[Grimario]

Pato back on or maybe never on or maybe never off or something.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/newcastle-jets-coach-ernie-merrick-promises-a-player-who-can-take-a-game-by-the-scruff-of-the-neck/news-story/4c70eaac0655f9239a5006f3ca635ec4

[lil_masi]

Pato back on or maybe never on or maybe never off or something.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/newcastle-jets-coach-ernie-merrick-promises-a-player-who-can-take-a-game-by-the-scruff-of-the-neck/news-story/4c70eaac0655f9239a5006f3ca635ec4

I'm encouraged by that article

[plague]

Pato back on or maybe never on or maybe never off or something.


This sentence is the most accurate reporting in the history of the Jets.

[The Dunster]

While doing some research on Pato I came across an article of Argentina's top 20 unfulfilled talents. One of the comments said it was missing Pato.
Also saw an article saying Man U were interesting in him in 2011. Don't know how bogus the article was.

Where on the list was Jorge Drovandi ?

[halo se7en]

Where on the list was Jorge Drovandi ?

He was on it, but they took him back off 20mins later.

[halo se7en]

It's amazing how quick we jump on articles that don't have a single quote.

[Tommyjet]

Im getting my 90 emotions without the 90 min

[foti68]

This is typical Jets
we have to overcome more hurdles than Sally Fleming.
I just wished they announced a signing when we actually have a contract signed its like watching Days of our lives.

[Jeterpool]

This is typical Jets
we have to overcome more hurdles than Sally Fleming.
I just wished they announced a signing when we actually have a contract signed its like watching Days of our lives.

Jane Flemming or Sally Pearson, yeah?

[GazFish35]

I'm just so excited to find out the name of this great marquee.

I've heard he grew up playing the same game as Ozil did when he was young, wears boots with studs like Suarez does, had a zidane shirt when he was boy, and has had his hair cut with a pair of scissors like Messi once did.

I've heard rumors he's got even more tenuous links to a whole host of other great players for the media to milk way too much copy from.

[foti68]

Jane Flemming or Sally Pearson, yeah?

both im just too flustered

[Jeterpool]

both im just too flustered

You'll manage to get over it......aaaaaahhhhh!!!

[belchardo]

I'm just so excited to find out the name of this great marquee.

I've heard he grew up playing the same game as Ozil did when he was young, wears boots with studs like Suarez does, had a zidane shirt when he was boy, and has had his hair cut with a pair of scissors like Messi once did.

I've heard rumors he's got even more tenuous links to a whole host of other great players for the media to milk way too much copy from.

descended from his parents, just like pele and maradonna did from their parents as well!

[GazFish35]

descended from his parents, just like pele and maradonna did from their parents as well!

Mentioned on this forum like Paolo Wanchope!

[lil_masi]

Hopefully its ronald vargas

Someone on twitter said its Ronald Vargas. What do you know about him?

[q-money]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2B8sA1Q6Dc

the defending in the greek league appears to be total trash but gee whiz this bloke is way too good to play for us

[q-money]

1.40 & 2.53 outrageous

[plague]

yes but what is his relationship to Neymar?

[lil_masi]

Apparently trained with Antwerp In Belgium for a few wks but wasn't offered a contract. Said his fitness wasn't great.

[380]

Apparently trained with Antwerp In Belgium for a few wks but wasn't offered a contract. Said his fitness wasn't great.


So the bloke might like a feed of KFC. Perfect for us and Ernie.

[sammydog]

So the bloke might like a feed of KFC. Perfect for us and Ernie.

Worked for Hernandez.

[q-money]

Worked for Hernandez.

what a player

[The Dunster]

https://www.transfermarkt.com/ronald-vargas/verletzungen/spieler/72567

Vargas did his ACL a few years back and has a long history of serious injury problems since. He will not cope with the physical nature of the a-league.

[Jeterpool]

https://www.transfermarkt.com/ronald-vargas/verletzungen/spieler/72567

Vargas did his ACL a few years back and has a long history of serious injury problems since. He will not cope with the physical nature of the a-league.

Nailed on signing.

Does his Dad work for the Jets?

[westjet]

https://www.transfermarkt.com/ronald-vargas/verletzungen/spieler/72567

Vargas did his ACL a few years back and has a long history of serious injury problems since. He will not cope with the physical nature of the a-league.

I dont know if that classes as a long history of serious injuries. Yes the ACL and patella problems were more severe but they were back in 2012. Since then he has hurt his elbow for 2 weeks and a groin and abductor strain (common football injuries) so not sure that rules him out of dealing with the physical nature of the league. Doing your ACL also doesnt mean you cant play anymore - yes there are players who have never been the same since they did it but there are also a heap of players in all different sports who have returned after an ACL repair.

[The Dunster]

I dont know if that classes as a long history of serious injuries. Yes the ACL and patella problems were more severe but they were back in 2012. Since then he has hurt his elbow for 2 weeks and a groin and abductor strain (common football injuries) so not sure that rules him out of dealing with the physical nature of the league. Doing your ACL also doesnt mean you cant play anymore - yes there are players who have never been the same since they did it but there are also a heap of players in all different sports who have returned after an ACL repair.

Before his injuries he was hot property - now he's talking to the a-league club holding the wooden spoon - the maths is pretty simple.

[MFKS]

https://www.transfermarkt.com/ronald-vargas/verletzungen/spieler/72567

Vargas did his ACL a few years back and has a long history of serious injury problems since. He will not cope with the physical nature of the a-league.

Happened to Griff as well

Bloke come back and led Jaffas to glory this season

[The Postman]

It's official, Vargas is in, and as Marquee.

Will reserve judgement till he plays.

Wouldn't be upset if they lined up like this.

GK - Duncan
RB - Hoffman
CB - Boogard
CB - Topor
LB - Georgievski
CM - Brown
CM - Ugar
AM - Nabbout
AM - Dimi
AM - Vargas
ST - Roy

(Or Vujica at LB and Georgievski at RB)

[Scourge]

30 with a history of ACL issues isn't a great signing... Generally history shows that even those players that bounce back from an acl do it in their early to mid 20s... Once you're cracking 30, these things tend to rear their head again and take a lot longer to heal...


Hoping I'm wrong, but knowing the jets, he'll be done by round 3 and have a nice paid vacation...

[MFKS]

30 with a history of ACL issues isn't a great signing... Generally history shows that even those players that bounce back from an acl do it in their early to mid 20s... Once you're cracking 30, these things tend to rear their head again and take a lot longer to heal...


Hoping I'm wrong, but knowing the jets, he'll be done by round 3 and have a nice paid vacation...

He scores the winning goal v the Gypos in Europe in Rd 1 and he can have the vacation

Looking at that You Tube video

This bloke is a ****ing good signing for us

Just keep the **** away from the biggest KFC in the southern hemisphere and we on a winner

[The Dunster]

He did ok at AEK - they wanted to extend his contract but they couldn't agree on salary - so Vargas rolled the dice and became a free agent. Hopefully he is physically sound.

BERTS definetly looking to score a lot of goals with this squad - and we will need lots of goals with our poor defence.

[Jetmaster]

We are the Jets...we take what we can get. Forza Puppet Ronnie.

[leftrightout]

AEK are Nathan Burns former club... he couldn't get close to the starting team and many wanted him here. You would have to think this is going to be a really good signing for Sydney FC

[Premy]

So we have 1 spot left yeah?

[StannyCFCJET]

So we have 1 spot left yeah?

Yep for a Chinese player

[rhysd]

30 with a history of ACL issues isn't a great signing... Generally history shows that even those players that bounce back from an acl do it in their early to mid 20s... Once you're cracking 30, these things tend to rear their head again and take a lot longer to heal...


Hoping I'm wrong, but knowing the jets, he'll be done by round 3 and have a nice paid vacation...


You do realise that he did his ACL when he was in his mid 20s?

[MFKS]

Don't you just love how the announcement of this by the Jets is done with little fan fare

A competent club bring old mate KFC Ronaldo in and plonk him down at a press conference Monday morning and unveil him to the world as a surprise announcement and get the free publicity promotion of their game /club etc by having the media in covering it

But no our club have a Luke warm announcement on a Saturday morning via their websites


So Jets like

[The Dunster]

Yep for a Chinese player

Can't we just find a top quality South American or European player and get him to apply for Chinese Citizenship ?

[Scourge]

You do realise that he did his ACL when he was in his mid 20s?

Absolutely, and I hope he stays healthy and he'll be a quality signing.

My concern is the jets history with ACL injuries... I don't know if it's how hard we work in training, our rehab or just poor damn luck, but we seem to always get screwed over with them.

My other concern is once you crack 30, niggling injuries tend to become reoccurring injuries with higher frequency and longer recovery... Most athletes are hitting their physical peak at 27 and by the time they are 30 it's a harder slog to stay healthy and stay at the top level (not saying it's not possible).

It's an opinion, and hopefully I'm proven wrong... It's not meant to be pessimistic, but just a realistic view of the overwhelming stats across many sports when it comes to ACL injuries.

[rhysd]

One would argue that he came back too early (6-7 mths) from his ACL surgery and then he hit his patellofemoral problems a month later and was out for an extended period (12 months total). So if he had done the standard rehab protocol he would have still come back perfectly fine at the 12 month stage.

ACL injuries are a combination of various factors. To attribute it entirely to a jets specific thing is utter dross.

Many athletes have returned to their peak following ACL injuries.
Considering he has played many games since his ACL injury would tend to tell me that he is on the lower end of the risk scale.

Do we know how he did his ACL? Contact v non-contact?

The injuries he has picked up since appeared to be minor soft tissue injuries which are part and parcel of elite sportspeople.

[furns]

One would argue that he came back too early (6-7 mths) from his ACL surgery and then he hit his patellofemoral problems a month later and was out for an extended period (12 months total). So if he had done the standard rehab protocol he would have still come back perfectly fine at the 12 month stage.

ACL injuries are a combination of various factors. To attribute it entirely to a jets specific thing is utter dross.

Many athletes have returned to their peak following ACL injuries.
Considering he has played many games since his ACL injury would tend to tell me that he is on the lower end of the risk scale.

Do we know how he did his ACL? Contact v non-contact?

The injuries he has picked up since appeared to be minor soft tissue injuries which are part and parcel of elite sportspeople.great to have insight from an actual physio mate

[The Dunster]

I miss the good old days of where a fitness test was a case of laying down in the car park while the coach backed his ute over your knee a few times to decide if you were ready to play.
Too much pseudo science shit involved in sport these days - and players / athletes in general are soft as shit now as well.

Too much reliance upon drugs / supplements in this age rather than hard work.

[DonPablo]

Too much reliance upon drugs / supplements these days rather than hard work.

You got something against drugs amigo?

[lquiquer]

Get Champness a Chinese passport.....Great finish today

[plague]

It's official, Vargas is in, and as Marquee.

Will reserve judgement till he plays.

Wouldn't be upset if they lined up like this.

GK - Duncan
RB - Hoffman
CB - Boogard
CB - Topor
LB - Georgievski
CM - Brown
CM - Ugar
AM - Nabbout
AM - Dimi
AM - Vargas
ST - Roy

(Or Vujica at LB and Georgievski at RB)

yeah i like the team but there just seems to be one small thing bothering me. Not sure what it is, cant quite put my finger on it......

[hawk]

yeah i like the team but there just seems to be one small thing bothering me. Not sure what it is, cant quite put my finger on it......

yeah, Brown will struggle with any consistency

[Mark325]

It's official, Vargas is in, and as Marquee.

Will reserve judgement till he plays.

Wouldn't be upset if they lined up like this.

GK - Duncan
RB - Hoffman
CB - Boogard
CB - Topor
LB - Georgievski
CM - Brown
CM - Ugar
AM - Nabbout
AM - Dimi
AM - Vargas
ST - Roy

(Or Vujica at LB and Georgievski at RB)

I can also see Nabbout being bumped to the bench, from what I gather and what I've seen his form is worse then Champness. If the first few games of the season he don't pick up, and return to the guy at the start of last season I can easily see him on the bench this season

[furns]

I can also see Nabbout being bumped to the bench, from what I gather and what I've seen his form is worse then Champness. If the first few games of the season he don't pick up, and return to the guy at the start of last season I can easily see him on the bench this season
Worse than Champness? You mean that bloke that has been scoring in just about every preseason game he's appeared in?

[Jetmaster]

I can also see Nabbout being bumped to the bench, from what I gather and what I've seen his form is worse then Champness. If the first few games of the season he don't pick up, and return to the guy at the start of last season I can easily see him on the bench this season

Nabby had a good game yesterday, with a nice finish disallowed, also had positive bants with the crowd - harsh.

Champness finish was class though.

[evanhayes5]

https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2017/september/match-report--sheffield-united-0-1-millwall-u23s/

[The Postman]

Champness officially signed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's 23 players.

1 - Jack Duncan - GK
2 -
3 - Jason Hoffman - DEF
4 - Nigel Boogaard - DEF
5 - Ben Kantarovski - MID
6 - Steven Ugarkovic - MID
7 - Dimitri Petratos - FWD
8 - Ronald Vargas - FWD
9 - Roy O'Donovan - FWD
10 - Wayne Brown - MID
11 -
12 - Mario Shabow - FWD
13 - Ivan Vujica - DEF
14 -
15 - Andrew Nabbout - FWD
16 - Nick Cowburn - MID
17 - Daniel Georgievski - DEF
18 - John Kourtroumbis - MID
19 - Kosta Petratos - FWD
20 - Glen Moss - GK
21 - Daniel Alessi - DEF
22 - Lachlan Jackson - DEF
23 - Devante Clut - FWD
29 - Jake Adelson - DEF
44 - Nikolai Topor-Stanley - DEF
## - Joel Champness - FWD

[MFKS]

Champness officially signed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's 23 players.

1 - Jack Duncan - GK
2 -
3 - Jason Hoffman - DEF
4 - Nigel Boogaard - DEF
5 - Ben Kantarovski - MID
6 - Steven Ugarkovic - MID
7 - Dimitri Petratos - FWD
8 - Ronald Vargas - FWD
9 - Roy O'Donovan - FWD
10 - Wayne Brown - MID
11 -
12 - Mario Shabow - FWD
13 - Ivan Vujica - DEF
14 -
15 - Andrew Nabbout - FWD
16 - Nick Cowburn - MID
17 - Daniel Georgievski - DEF
18 - John Kourtroumbis - MID
19 - Kosta Petratos - FWD
20 - Glen Moss - GK
21 - Daniel Alessi - DEF
22 - Lachlan Jackson - DEF
23 - Devante Clut - FWD
29 - Jake Adelson - DEF
44 - Nikolai Topor-Stanley - DEF
## - Joel Champness - FWD

Thought it said he has 2 years after this year and he is on the scholarship he was on this year

So by my counts he is still a yoof player hanging with the first team squad this year and Bert can still sign the Chinese Griffo

[lil_masi]

Thought it said he has 2 years after this year and he is on the scholarship he was on this year

So by my counts he is still a yoof player hanging with the first team squad this year and Bert can still sign the Chinese Griffo

Thats correct. First team from next year.

[Couscous]

Why is Hyphen playing in 44 and not 2?

[lquiquer]

Chinese Griffo

Could be a Chinese Cruyff... 14

[lquiquer]

Why is Hyphen playing in 44 and not 2?
He likes 4 ... but great leader got it... so 44

[The Postman]

He likes 4 ... but great leader got it... so 44

I'm all for this, love seeing blokes running around in higher squad numbers. It was silly that the HAL squads had to be 1-23, every other league in the world players wear whatever they feel.

[Jeterpool]

Champness officially signed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's 23 players.

1 - Jack Duncan - GK
2 -
3 - Jason Hoffman - DEF
4 - Nigel Boogaard - DEF
5 - Ben Kantarovski - MID
6 - Steven Ugarkovic - MID
7 - Dimitri Petratos - FWD
8 - Ronald Vargas - FWD
9 - Roy O'Donovan - FWD
10 - Wayne Brown - MID
11 -
12 - Mario Shabow - FWD
13 - Ivan Vujica - DEF
14 -
15 - Andrew Nabbout - FWD
16 - Nick Cowburn - MID
17 - Daniel Georgievski - DEF
18 - John Kourtroumbis - MID
19 - Kosta Petratos - FWD
20 - Glen Moss - GK
21 - Daniel Alessi - DEF
22 - Lachlan Jackson - DEF
23 - Devante Clut - FWD
24 - Joe Champness - FWD
26 - Mark Moric - MF
28 - Patrick Langlois - DEF
29 - Jake Adelson - DEF
44 - Nikolai Topor-Stanley - DEF


Updated a few more from what I've seen assigned so far :)

Obviously some are youth players that may be called up at times. Not all are A-league contracted